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BM kinda town then. What weird roles we have in this game. Martyrer, Nuker?^^ what else | ||
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"HF the Vanilla Townie got kicked out of the thread", is that all? Notice the word "kicked". Also, no flavor unlike every other person who died? Ok; maybe he was not modkilled, but I think there is a reason why the host don't post HF's flavor, probably because the full extent would include the picture he posted as his first post? | ||
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On July 08 2015 03:09 ComaDose wrote: plotspot arnt you talking a bit too much about role pms? also the jinx kappa face was banned from the offtopic thread so its part of the theme of rebelling against the mods and not relevant to the role pms. not to mention its not the same picture. Ok I didn't know that. I just thought since wave got a full VT flavor with a jinx face picture in it, every VT must have gotten such a post with a slightly different jinx face. I don't even know whether it is just the face you guys normally post that is the offender or any such variants. I do believe that Dandel picked HF, that's why I thought it would be funny if it coincide with the possibilty of HF getting modkilled. But soniv is right, I haven't thought about it that mod(host)killed people get announced. Usually it comes with a blue post and reasonings and things. I just still think it's strange how HF never got ameliorations with his death post. | ||
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On July 08 2015 10:04 jcarlsoniv wrote: Why I think LT looks scummy GB flipped red, see previous big post on LT lol. And to address your earlier post: It's really not that absurd. You believed Cixah's claim based on the fact that it was "so sketchy it makes sense" (paraphrasing). But as soon as GB came in and did a last minute claim, you wanted to pull some major shenannies. I mentioned how content he was with plotspot's original claim and how it hasn't sat right with me. The main thing giving me pause is that I find it hard to believe LT would be that dumb. He's either stupid town or really stupid scum. plotspot, on the other hand, has done fuck all except for random speculation all game. At least I have an idea of what LT's reads are... plotspot I have no fucking clue what he thinks about other people in the game. As I've typed this out, I've decided that if I had to choose between the two, I'd go with plotspot. He's more likely scum solely based off of pure feigned activity. there ain't shit to read yo Actually, if you don't believe my claim, there's no way I'm scum here. Cixah has the most suspicions about him from everyone else. No one dared townreading him. If I was scum with GB, I'd surely done everything possible to cement Cixah's status as scum. Like, how difficult is it to cast down suspicion on his claim or his general play if I just parrot GB? But I didn't. I went the way of high resistance and hard-defend and ride with him when you guys were still wondering what is what. Why, pray tell, would I do that as scum? I voted GB in a phase where everything was still undecided and stayed with it to the end . If I was scum with GB, why would I consolidate with Cixah at a critical juncture? | ||
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On July 08 2015 20:04 Dandel Ion wrote: dunno assuming 3 mafia in a 13p game is not a slip but it seems you all are forgetting about the yung coastlord who claimed 3p. who makes NLing more retarded cuz if he's survivor or something along those lines it'd be 5-1-2 -> 4-1-2 aka MYLO for free if he's traitor like claimed we're actually in mylo today (assuming 3 other scum). which is why i would say the smartest thing to do today would be to vote him out before we go into silly scenarios where we can't afford to anymore. best case he was scum fakeclaiming to get some free coasting in and we in this. tldr policy lynch while we still can This is nice and considers 100% of the cases.^^ | ||
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my play is absolutely NAI, whatever anyone says, and I actually sided with Cixah and vote a mafia who used his (Cixah's) inexperience to get on his throat. What were you doing? Noodling with the rest? Asking wave for advice? Soniv I think you're in some serious tunnel or confirmation bias if you think I am scum when I don't even know whether I am town or scum. I have you as town. Oh is this an pocket attempt? I have Cixah as town. Oh is this a scum plot I decided on earlier with GB? I have soniv and Cixah as town. Am I parroting LT? Am I following some sort of town sentiment? I have most of my reads together, the rest of the townies are good material for interaction observation, I don't disclose them now. I disclosed my townread the day before when it was necessary to go firm with it. Lol riding chaos, lol doing nothing. All my spammy chatty posts with Dandel, BM or the HF theory were just silly night post banter if you noticed, because no real relevant info ever leaks there. | ||
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You don't consider observing and misdirection of scum some sort of a skill a townie should have, do you? For you it must be clear; I want everyone's read, I want no shenanigans, I want to know what your claim means, I want to consult wave, I want to take no responsibility if things go wrong. | ||
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On July 08 2015 23:00 jcarlsoniv wrote: After some consideration, I have arrived at the conclusion that LT is probably not scum. For a couple reasons: -I honestly don't think LT is that stupid. -I agree that a no lynch is not a good idea today. And the fact that LT immediately stands up against a no lynch when it seems like people want him dead today shows in LT's favor. However, I have also reaffirmed my thoughts that plotspot is very likely scum. Why would you do that as scum? Because then you could make this very simple post in your own defense and hope you'd be done with it. But the fact of the matter is that you made a very sketchy claim D1 and you've done absolutely nothing of value since. Like, I don't even know if you have any reads on anyone. All you've done is ride along with the chaos. ##vote plotspot Also, I'm generally not someone who does a lot of set up speculation (mostly cuz I'm not sure what a "balanced" comp would be in any given game), but I want to throw in my two cents. If scum got an extra KP in GB's nuke, wouldn't town also get an extra KP somewhere? Watcher, tracker, and martyr seem like fairly weak town roles (unless I'm misunderstanding their strength) - I would kind of expect town to have extra KP somewhere. Like do you really believe I planned it all out up to this point? So that I copy-pasted this defense (which could be expressed in half the words) and be done with it? I do everything can I to get GB lynched, so that I am here telling you all this, instead of getting the lynch on Cixah and go "oh I thought he was scum, awww that's such a pity, but his tracker claim was so unbelievable, you guys agreed, right?" Like please please pretty please, consider some scum outside of me or LT, that would really help. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24343783 Don't need to read it, it was just his friggen fantasy. Really, if you want to go down that road, please be my guess. I can just assure you, it's not worth it, you won't find anything down there, just trust me. If I am scum in this game it's purely based on percentages and statistics. I am not some scum masterminder here. | ||
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On July 09 2015 02:24 jcarlsoniv wrote: The glaring flaw in your thought process is that I don't believe your claim. I'm not saying you had a post at the ready to copy-paste for defense. I'm saying that it is not hard for me to imagine that you, as a scum player, had the foresight to think "hmm, if I'm questioned about this, I can defend my actions with this information". You keep mentioning people having things prepared in scum QT or elsewhere to copy paste at the ready. As far as I'm aware, this isn't even something a townie would think about. What's hilarious is that your buddy GB claimed waaaaaaaaaay later. You're right, you voted GB; but to say that you did everything you could to get him lynched is beyond laughable. It's called a bus, and we even discussed it earlier in the thread - it's not that uncommon. LT tried to get some shenannies onto Cixah after the GB claim, but it picked up 0 steam, there was no real opportunity for you to try and save GB after the 6ah claim. I'm happy where my vote is. But fine, I'll humor you. You said you have me and Cixah as town. Who are your scumreads? Also, Asmo, you've been almost as quiet as your Librarians. yea that is indeed funny^^. I gave instructions to GB without knowing it.^^ I did everything I could. I monitored the process, he claimed cop, I even denied it. You even asked about what game I was referring to, I even ask why GB didn't check on me, when I had the ???. Lol don't tell me you couldn't have been swayed anyway. But just as I could say anything now, so can you. So you totally believe that while you think I planned it all out, that I wasn't able to save GB, even If I wanted to, so I bussed him as early as possible to get the credit? So you basically say nothing could have prevented GB from being lynched, as soon as Cixah claimed? And then for some reason I rode the chaos down to lynching my own partner? What chaos? Didn't you just say GB was doomed anyway? You either believe there was chaos and confusion or you don't, and if you believe there was chaos and confusion, you simply must believe that GB was still rescuable, and I as his partner refused to do it, even when two people believed him and actually jumped on Cixah. Really? And no I'm not giving out my scumread at this time, same reason I don't give out my townreads besides you two. | ||
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On July 09 2015 01:06 plotspot wrote: "oh fuck did you see that?, he is partly responsible for why GB got lynched, but hey let's not kill him, we nuke wave first, then shoot VE, who was scumreading and voting for him, on the next day we make up some reasons to push him and gauge town's sentiment, soniv is suspicious of him, we got him on our side, we want to lynch this guy not shoot him, but let's not mention VE scumreading him yet, we bring that towards the EoD, we just make up why VE as a watcher could prove he is scum, or just use his interaction with VE to prove he is scum having removed VE" here soniv, just do it like this. Imagine me, GB and another person sitting in the scum QT, discussing the events before and after Cixah's claim. I'm sure you're in the fire for it now. Give it your best, imagine the craziest scenario. You can do it. Creativity makes happy.^^ | ||
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