Newbie Student Mafia XI

On June 12 2015 10:12 Sulfurus wrote:
I'm starting to really like the case on Kickstarter; he has made a lot of posts that give the illusion of being a helpful towny with his PSA and rule clarifications but they are really just filler and something that the mods already have covered.

On top of that I think n00bKing's defense of ruXx is spot on which gives even more validity to the Kickstarter push.

##Vote: Kickstarter

(I admit that in a vacuum I would probably scum read Bats more but I've learned my lesson from last game)

On June 12 2015 11:39 Sulfurus wrote:
@Kickstart
the initial scumread on you is essentially cause most of your posts up to that point were filler although that seems to not be true anymore.

Regarding ruXxar answer me this: A common mafia tell for new players is to both refrain from posting and to be timid in their posts however as n00bKing pointed out neither of these are true for ruXxar; and in your own post you say ruXxar falls for a different new player tell by citing his inexperience. So why is it that some of these tells apply to ruXx but others don't?

On June 13 2015 04:37 Sulfurus wrote:
@geript That's good that you no longer scum read Moosy but Bats hasn't made the same realization you have and you townread two of the people voting on him. So what do you think of him?

On June 13 2015 12:17 Sulfurus wrote:


If you don't think I scumread Bats I really do I was just hesitant before because I misread him last game but now I'm sure.

Also now that your back what do you think of n00bs? I know that your were angry at him because he kept giving advice even though he is new but I think he has said a lot of good stuff since then.

On June 13 2015 08:24 Sulfurus wrote:
To start off I think n00bKing is the towniest person in this game period. Almost all of his posts are there to benefit town with either advice or very good questioning and again I think his reasoning on ruXxar is spot on (and much better then what Kick has said). So fmpov this make ruXx look really good and bats/kick look terrible (ruxx has also done a lot since that looks really towny in my eyes whereas kick and bats haven't).

Moving on there is also the whole conflict between Wave and Geript caused by his shitty read on Moosy (which was sheeped by Bats even though geript himself has changed his mind). I think this interaction makes Wave look pretty good and bats once again doesn't however he has since changed his vote to Rels.

Speaking of which the reason he is even voting Rels is because of a read by Trfel (looking back he was also one of the first to push scum on ruXx).

So they may not be the strongest town reads on those I called town but I think you guys are right and bats really is playing differently this game.

##Vote: Batsnacks

On June 14 2015 04:56 Trfel wrote:
Rels' Read Progression

• Suspicious of ruXxar early
  
• Suspicious of MoosyDoosy's first post
  
• Early suspicions of n00bKing (across multiple posts, vague wording)
  
• Scumreads Fake)Plants for opening post
  
• Changes read on ruXxar to town
  
• Unexplained town reads on WaveofShadow, Kickstart, ruXxar, Oatsmaster, Trfel, sort of town lean ish? on Sulfurus, scum leans on MoosyDoosy, geript, and batsnacks
  
• Says that scott31337 isn't scummy
  
• Jumps on my suspicion on MoosyDoosy
  
• List post
  
• Unvotes batsnacks
  
• Wants to vote geript, might vote Damdred, could also vote Sulfurus
  
• Jumps on geript's suspicion of scott31337

Rels is generally throwing around suspicions on everything. His townread on ruXxar changed after it was clear that the push on ruXxar wasn't going anywhere. He's scumreading people already being scumread by others, and multiple times he uses other people's posts to justify increasing his own suspicions of other people.
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It seems like Rels is like a leaf in the wind, following thread sentiment, jumping on whatever works. He townreads people who are being townread already, he scumreads people who are being scumread, and only changes when the thread sentiment shifts.

The one major departure from this trend is when he townreads batsnacks. He did this before Damdred jumped in. This is a pretty big change in his read, and against the thread sentiment. However, I think that the way that Rels jumps on whatever suspicion is available every other time in the thread is quite telling.

On June 15 2015 09:08 ruXxar wrote:


Please explain why you wanted to defend rels so badly and also why you wanted to lynch trelf.
This is very important information, please make it clear to me because I don't understand it at all.

On June 15 2015 12:55 Sulfurus wrote:


Thank you for the answer but I don't think you understand why I made that post.

First off there's no point in me defending myself since I am not at risk to be lynched and Second I'm actually trying to reevaluate on trfel by understanding why others are townreading him instead of being one of those people who just mindlessly tunnel on one person.

Anyway your logic is actually really good if Rels is mafia but what if rels is town? Is everything we have on trfel just wrong or is he still town?

On June 16 2015 15:32 Sulfurus wrote:
K I just realized that Oats is scummy.

I looked through his filter and minus the fluff it's just him asking questions (interspersed with attempts to discredit towny posts)

Now I'm sure n00b would be quick to remind me that asking questions is actually towny as it provides valuable scum hunting information But even if Oats has gotten anything from his posts he hasn't actually provided any of it to the thread in fact it's likely that his questions are helping mafia more then town.

##Vote: Oatsmaster

On June 17 2015 05:40 ruXxar wrote:
I just want to say to everyone that I'm a very passive person in real life.
Playing mafia makes me feel so bad because I have to treat a lot of people like shit -_-.
It feels very wrong.

I hope you don't take anything I say personally moosy.

On June 17 2015 05:51 Sulfurus wrote:


Dude please don't make it personal.