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VE I think it's off. We just have to keep the votes consistent - all the townies need to vote one person anyway. I just am seeing Tictock and Damdred going after me now which from a town perspective seems strange - but from mafia they are like "Welp he's the lowest fruit now, let's GG it out!" ## Tictock/Damdred/NHM maybe? Who do you want to lynch today? | ||
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On June 12 2015 13:40 Damdred wrote: I'd also curious why Scott decided to vote me and then come into thread and push tick instead of scum read damdred Because I'm not completely sold on Ticktock yet, and I'm trying to line up votes to avoid shenanigan plans. For Onegu? I have to basically go on an instinct that he is town at this moment for the above reason or the games over anyway. | ||
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On June 12 2015 14:00 VisceraEyes wrote: That answer was balls. You said you're starting to think Onegu is town. You said that for a reason. Now you say you had no reason, and you're voting for him. Have you read his reasons for thinking Damdred is mafia? Yes I have read his reasons, and they aren't the best. I have more of my own reasons, including "Let's lead the wagon on scott now since he's the low hanging fruit." - he started to hint at it and now he's going for it. Unless all of you are mafia and every one else votes the same (Damdred at the moment, but willing to change this if required) The game is over. You have been calm and collective, and you did give me a ride or die townread. I have to think you are town too. On June 12 2015 14:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Like everyone go look at Onegu's filter in Carnival Cruise. You'll notice that his filter size is about the same, but the content is WILDLY different. He actually gives reasons for his suspicions and references posts and explains what he's thinking. In this game it's just been a blind Damdred push all game long, mostly for no reason other than his "Onegu Rule" which doesn't even make any sense. I think he's probably mafia this game, and I think that's why Fidei died. Because he was suspicious of scott and Onegu. Is there a reason you picked this game? It was the same one I picked for you as mafia a day or so ago, but noted the differences. On June 12 2015 15:00 Tictock wrote: + Show Spoiler + @ Damdred Man why were you even worried? I poured over your filter and you have been one towny mother*%&$#^#$ this game. I'm salty that you started a wagon that got Kick lynched, and something about your tone does suggest this "playing all sides" attitude to me at times. However I have to admit that you've generally had good reads, made great points, and while you seem to shine most after EoD your reads have all been consistent and I can actually see how they change by looking through your posts carefully. On June 12 2015 14:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Like everyone go look at Onegu's filter in Carnival Cruise. You'll notice that his filter size is about the same, but the content is WILDLY different. He actually gives reasons for his suspicions and references posts and explains what he's thinking. In this game it's just been a blind Damdred push all game long, mostly for no reason other than his "Onegu Rule" which doesn't even make any sense. I think he's probably mafia this game, and I think that's why Fidei died. Because he was suspicious of scott and Onegu. From what others have said I thought his lack of interest would suggest that he is town... Now that i think about that I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that though. Honestly I've been kinda relying on other peoples reads on him, plus his occasional coherent posts to support my idea of him being town. At this point all I know for sure about Onegu is that he is a terrible lynch today because he is more or less a coinflip. I've spent a lot of time now convincing myself that Damdred and VE are town this game so for the moment I am going to sheep this scott wagon. I will do my own due-diligence just like i have been doing and go through scotts filter tomorrow. Damdred and VE... if you two are in fact both scum this game and I'm just walking right into another mislynch... I'll be very cross with you post game. ##Vote: Scott I still have a feeling VE is town, but yeah, you are going to be very cross with Damdred if it continues this way. You didn't answer my NHM question. "He has interacted very little with you in his filter, What do you think about him?" Have you noticed certain people if they aren't being pressed they just go away? NHM didn't talk much at all, lurked and then added the comment about how my maths were wrong. Is this townie behavior? Or just frustration? | ||
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Now I'm "scummy-as-fuck". I think we're on to something boys. | ||
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On June 13 2015 04:55 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm now evaluating a world in which BOTH Damdred AND Ticktock are tryharding as mafia and I'm just fucking retarded. Please standby. Please do check this option. I mean I am thinking about this game, but I do not see swaying Onegu from his vote -I could probably get NHM to change it, but that just leaves too many options for scum. The other wagon is me. I am town. | ||
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 But if that's the case, there's a mafia on me and can last minute switch anyway and it's over.I've always had mixed emotions about yourself. | ||
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On June 12 2015 11:50 milo109 wrote: Alright. Let's look at the worlds. Quick thoughts on votes. Day 1 It seems impossible to believe that zero mafia voted on our blue. Also... I actually think wasting your vote there was towny. Both mislynch targets were town. Mafia could have hopped on any bandwagon they wanted. Day 2: GGTemplar was also an easy person to call scummy, so I think that at least two of the mafia were on him. Day 3: What sucks is that the same people are voting on the easy mislynches. Correlations and conclusions: I don't think Ticktock and NMH can both be scum and I don't think Onegu and Damdred are both scum. I also think just from voting that Onegu is town. Ticktock is also probably town. Just need to find one more. Either way, from voting and play, Damdred is a good lynch. He's playing like scum trying to close out a game. What changed your mind from this Milo? | ||
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The Case for Scott being town On June 03 2015 07:12 scott31337 wrote: I know how you don't like to give away your "magic secret meta tricks" but can you elaborate a little more on this? I just showed the MMM2 game you were scummates and he showed his XXX town game. What's the difference you see? So I still wonder how he knew this - There is either a specific word Ritoky uses - or something to that nature. Damdred noticed as well I asked about this as well. Damdred gave away his LS meta read and I can understand why he wouldn't want to spill this, and he never did... On June 03 2015 07:08 scott31337 wrote: I like Kickstart's post so far, slight town read I did like Kickstarts posting even when the thread consensus was that he was scum. This was an early D1 read, but I saw things in his posting that made him townie to me. I never voted for KickStart D1. Kickstart flipped JK. On June 04 2015 15:36 scott31337 wrote: Who would you be willing to lynch beyond GG, Kickstart? Tictock got one of his first town reads on this, that I was looking for other alternatives, or seeing what his train of thoughts were. KS was still a scumread for quite a few here. On June 05 2015 03:14 scott31337 wrote: VE just stealth voted onto GG - I'm about 70% GG is town just by how the votes are going. The case can't be that great... I already have a spider sense someone who's pocketing me is mafia - just need to figure out who. How true this has become until today when I was being townread until Fidei died. Now it's all on the choo choo lynch Scott train. Oh how I remember this interaction with Ritoky - On June 05 2015 05:55 ritoky wrote: this EXACT read is why i am defending chocolate and templar. they did the same shit you did that game. it is literally the same scenario. i just realized it too late in that game. I was a bit inactive in the last 24 hours of this game, but when I got online - I only had about a half an hour, made a post - voted away from the wagon. It's interesting how I had the same thoughts here. On June 05 2015 14:47 scott31337 wrote: The second paragraph is crap - Kick announced at 59 after and nobody would have time to change their vote. I was suspicious of the unvote because who had both threads open at the time? Even my having the internet in 1992 linux skills and bolding in time I would not have been able to pull it off. I do not like your coloring either. Dumb town or try to hard scum. It's not my response I want to look at, I see how his colorings are looking now, I apologize I gave him crap for this. Hmmm.. On June 05 2015 15:40 scott31337 wrote: 11:30pm - thoughts One of VE/Damred/Ritoky is mafia, maybe two. VE pocketed me early, a little too early. I'm suspicious of him. Ritoky is playing really well if he is mafia, better then what I have read. I really want to town read him, but, see above. Onegu is a meta town read - Needs to show up D2/D3 - which he normally does. GG Is a town read, and maybe ritoky is throwing my chain, but I got lynched in Newbie X D1 for the same reasons. Keep an eye out - like I mentioned, when Day three comes and they are not dead, start to worry. Chocolate I have not liked since the start - and maybe mafia moved their votes to protect their guy - It's too early to tell. I still do not like him - still scummy Ritoky - I really like his thoughts and I want him to be town so we can win - I have seen his play before as well though confusing us - and Kickstart saw it a little bit as well - Another D3 worry - I want to like him though. Fidei86 - crap. Milo - crap. TicTock - He improved his game a lot if he rolled scum this time. We talked back and forth and I think he's town. Day 4 then be worried. Look, It's day four, and I'm worried that town is going to lose. I must be a fucking magician. Do you think I would keep him or Damdred alive this long if I were mafia? On June 07 2015 05:47 scott31337 wrote: I'll take a page from Damdred's book If you think I'm scum fucking vote me This has not happened AT ALL until today, where mafia are going for the win. On June 07 2015 06:58 scott31337 wrote: I see a slight townlean from reading NHM's filter - I know I gave him shit for this post earlier on the coloring - I see a lot of honesty here for some reason. Admits to being a little lurky (which Scum normally wants to try not to stand out) and how important JK is (could've asked in the mafia QT?) He's a slight town lean. I don't like his Tictock read - with Tic's big case I like him a little more, but he isn't Tunneltock either and if he thinks someone is mafia as town, he will tunnel Unless he's learning his mistake. I'm trying to do critical analysis here, and figure out who is actually town and who is not. On June 07 2015 08:01 scott31337 wrote: We both may be misguided on Tictock and he is mafia, but I'm really doubtful of it at this time. The only thing that makes me wonder is he is not TunnelTock like our last game, but that's not that important. He still gets a townread. If you are actually town, beyond me, who would you like to lynch? Who do you see as the scumteam? I'm still weary of Tictock kicking it up, and he has - He townread me until day 3 and now, time to GG it out. On June 08 2015 13:58 scott31337 wrote: There's a "vet" in the scum team, and that is why Ritoky is dead. And by vet I mean Onegu/VE/Damdred. I have not like Fidei's play but let me re-read his filter - The game is over now. I think it is a litle unsettling you call out that game though, SPIDEY SENSE going off. Fuck me. I just want to town Tictock - I really do, but another pointing of out that there is something not right. On June 09 2015 03:51 scott31337 wrote: Shendel/Tictock are town, they are trying to solve the game. Slight towns on Onegu/VE/Milo109, but I'm pretty sure there's a vet in the scum team (Onegu/VE/Damdred) - Milo's eod1 unvote was pretty towny, but like I mentioned, don't give him a free pass if he keeps slacking Damdred's play hasn't been too impressive, and can see what he is doing as mafia Fidei/Chocolate/NYM - so if the above is true on the vets, then one of these are town. After D1 his play Chocolate's play went to shit. Choc- And to answer your question - because you have shit the bed after day one, if it's legit vacationing or just reasons to not post - you also say who I think are town are mafia. If you are active and start doing some critical analysis, that help town with their PoE (Process of elimination) If everyone craps town rainbows, the mafia have no where to hide. NYM- His list post here is allright - although he had GGTemplar as red, GG called him out that he's been mafia siding all game and wants SL back, and then he does his "Templar is town" with little time left before the lynch - to look better? His post here though Makes me think he is a town lean though - He's going thru Chocolate's thought process and sees an unnatural flow. Fidei- A lot of phone posting and one liners - He also had to half scum me in that Ritoky WIFOM post. Fidei - can you follow up on this for me? Because you might be on something here. Keep re-evaluating guys, we got two ML's left, and we can get scum tomorrow, we'll have something to start checking with their filter and finding the other two. I have faith in you If I make it thru the night, I'll do some more digging, make Onegu post a case (You can do it!) among other things.Damdred was posting the same things I did and it was a nice feeling - and very doubtful he wrote all that in 25 minutes (the time between our two messages). On June 10 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote: So here is a VE game as scum that he survives until the end. Carnival Cruise Mafia Mafia Absorber Survived Night 5 When the worry is off him (about day 3) he doesn't post for shit until a "Sorry catch up in the thread" - The obvious town in obviousone calls him out and VE starts posting like a madman again. He says Obviousone is scum as well. VE wins the game. Hmmm looks awfully familiar I spent time looking up VE's previous games as town and mafia. I learned some tricks from LS (although I'm far from the meta master, it sure does help) - VE died off until he needed to be important again. I already gave away my trick (doesn't show so much emotion as town) so he can play on this now and adapt. On June 10 2015 06:15 scott31337 wrote: You know what, I'll feel better if I lose because I took a stand then just let VE do nothing and win as mafia while we all kill each other. And VE starts posting again. On June 10 2015 06:48 scott31337 wrote: Who were these people? And yes, this is the pocket I was referring to if you are mafia - get on my good side? The Won't lynch today pile you have - Won't Lynch Today / I WANNA say town, but I just can't yet for some reason: Damdred Onegu You have not interacted with either of these people at all when you got to this. Has this changed? ![[image loading]](http://galeri2.uludagsozluk.com/388/and-its-gone_399107.jpg) Wow, you do actually interact with Damdred... Once... Yeah... This tinfoil fits soooo well though. VE never replied about how he never interacted with Damdred until I looked into his filter and called him out. I searched many filters (using the all thing) and for others nicks - this one was suspicious, he only interacted with Damdred once. He interacted with the other people alive (me, fidei, etc) much more. Some scum do not interact since they have the QT, and it also leaves town information if one of them gets lynched. On June 11 2015 08:31 scott31337 wrote: Sigh. Triple LYLO? great... Well I sure kicked up my game as well If I am scum, just like Tictock. Sounds like Damd wants to go after me and GG it out - not surprised. Let's see how well that will work. I'll re-read after a bit though. And the finalization - when I've been mostly townread until today by just about everybody. They are trying to point out my drunk "if this person dies" post. I WAS TOWNREAD BY ALMOST EVERYBODY UNTIL TODAY! Now it's all disappeared. Got to get that mislynch somehow and win for scum, and I am the target. | ||
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Town concedes GG all, I had a good game - I need to work on my wordiness though - and maybe hold off on the drunken rants - especially at important times - like Night 3. That didn't help anything but raise more suspicion the scum could throw out at me. See you at post-game in an hour and 45. | ||
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On June 14 2015 04:24 Tictock wrote: Sorry guys I'm not able to be active today, my entire morning has been pumping water out of my basement >.< I'm pretty sure we are on the right track with scott here, and sorry but I'm going to have to leave my vote there since i simply have no time today to follow discussion. Just in case there are still any doubts.. THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS! And yet Superbia was intelligent enough to figure that out and the exact same result will happen today. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=41#818 It is a reminder to myself and others. | ||
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NHM has a better chance of continuing the game though if we vote him. If you were mafia why would you bring up the second chance thoughts unless you just want to fuck with us just for fun (haha) because you already had the game in the bag, is what I'm wondering now. | ||
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## NHM / TT /Milo109 Can't be anything else right? GG | ||
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If onegu was mafia he wouldn't switch over right? NHM could've voted me and got me out and it would've been GG right? | ||
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