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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 20:30 GMT
#841
On June 05 2015 05:26 scott31337 wrote:
I told him at least twice in our interactions about the voting thread too gosh darn it.


You did. Hell I'd forgotten about it till you said something, so thanks for that.

That is partially why I've been scumming GG anyways kus he's not really reading peoples interactions with him.

But that's probably a moot point now.
I can take that responsibility.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2015 20:31 GMT
#842
On June 05 2015 05:27 Chocolate wrote:
KS, if you would look back, you would see I posted only a few minutes after you, I had not yet seen what you wrote

ok let me try to generally address the points against me

1. the scott vote

he wasn't posting, had a general town read and nothing else at the moment, very easy way for scum to play it safe, I don't feel he is scum at all at the moment since he has posted a lot more since then

2. going scott over VE
uhhh it was pretty far before the end of the day and it was a case of pros and cons vs. only cons at the moment

3. I seen scummy because I've been defending all game
It's a cycle. If I don't defend myself, I get called dodgy scum. If I defend myself, I seem to be scrambling. In either case I have to spend a lot of my time and posts defending myself which continues to call attention to myself possibly being scum

4. switching votes a lot
tictock vote meant next to nothing, scott vote was imo logical at the time it was made, VE vote was slightly OMGUSing, onegu vote I continue to stand by but if you guys want to interpet meta to the detriment of town I can't stop you, KS I don't want to die, he seems scummy (and for my next post I'll try to be more formal why), and bandwagoned me

if there's anything else scummy you want to bring up about me then shoot


This seems like a reasonable explanation...
Can you do a list post from scummy to town for us?

THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 04 2015 20:31 GMT
#843
30 minutes left, seriously considering voting on Damdred.

My vote either dtays on Chocolate, or I switch to SL or Damdred, thoughts?
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 04 2015 20:32 GMT
#844
Or is there something going on with SL, I didn't quite catch it in the earlier conversation about something happeneing with him :/.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 04 2015 20:34 GMT
#845
see: everything after this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/427933-tl-mafia-ban-list-20?page=122#2421

damn KS you have a lot of words

will do scotty
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 20:36 GMT
#846
On June 05 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 05:25 Tictock wrote:
On June 05 2015 05:23 ritoky wrote:
fuck me i really need to get this right....templar looks like he is gonna novote and make me pissed for the 2nd game in a row about no-voters...i would really rather not lose 2 town day 1.


Humm? You don't have faith in your vote?


i have lost some faith in chocolate being scum, and i really believe templar is scum. so currently it looks like we are for sure losing 1 town today....i want to make a good choice and not lose 2. the only way i see chocolate being scum right now is if he is scum WITH TEMPLAR because of their thread re-entry. if one was scum and the other wasn't i feel they would push the opposing wagon. and if that is the case, then templar dying will be a free dead scum.


Is it a bad sign that this logic pleases me since I'm reading them both as scum?

GG's vote just seems like it's too hand wavey justified to me. I guess you put a lot more faith into this theory of play than I do, but to each their own on playstyle choice.

Choco has been making similarly bad scumreads and votes. This switch onto Kick seems really scummy to me as well.
I can take that responsibility.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2015 20:36 GMT
#847
On June 05 2015 05:30 ritoky wrote:
the more i think about it, the less i am feeling it.

##unvote: chocolate


What are you thinking then? I'm not feeling KS for today.
I want to lynch mafia but with a GG mkill a possibility -
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 20:38 GMT
#848
@ Kick
Stay on Chocolate, don't fall into last minuet OMGUS voting
I can take that responsibility.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 20:38 GMT
#849
if chocolate is scum and templar is not; and chocolate re-enters the thread as the 2nd largest wagon and one that is gaining steam vs templar's which is losing steam, then it is logical that he would push on templar. instead he called the wagon garbage and tried to push his own read. there's only 2 motivations for that i can see: 1) he is town pushing his reads regardless of thread sentiment 2) the opposing wagon is mafia with chocolate.

as of now templar is dying. so if it is world 2, then we are getting a free mafia regardless. if templar is town, then we are losing 2 town voting on chocolate....is this too much of an associative read this early? I may have talked myself into something that is a stretch, but chocolate's recent play + this kinda not making me want to lynch him.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 04 2015 20:38 GMT
#850
Day 1 Vote Count

milo109(0): ritoky, Kickstart, VisceraEyes
Tictock(1): sicklucker
Chocolate(4): VisceraEyes, VisceraEyes, ritoky, VisceraEyes, Scott, Kickstart, Tictock
GGTemplar(1): Kickstart, Tictock, NydusHerMain, Scott, VisceraEyes
VisceraEyes(1): Chocolate, milo109
Onegu(1): Fidei86, Chocolate
Kickstart(2): Damdred, Chocolate
Damdred(1) Onegu

Not Voting (2): GGTemplar, ritoky

Currently, Chocolate is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is located here.
Posting after the deadline and before the flip will result in a modkill.
UNJUSTIFIED FAILURE TO VOTE WILL RESULT IN A MODKILL
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 20:39 GMT
#851
Scott, do you think I'm town.

Why don't you feel a ks lynch
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 04 2015 20:39 GMT
#852
Yeah I think Chocolate has good chance of being scum, first his vote was uselessly planted on onegu, then onto me. On top of everything else raised I think his votes are suspect as well.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 20:40 GMT
#853
It actually makes sense ritoky 2 mafia up for lynch bus the fuck out of your team mate not do this meh.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 20:41 GMT
#854
not everyone is a busaholic like us damdred
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 04 2015 20:41 GMT
#855
I am a bit uneasy that I could have a ton of last minute votes thrown onto me and get lynched in the last 20 or so minutes that are left out of nowhere.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 04 2015 20:41 GMT
#856
Can I ask that people move their votes where they intend them to be, we have under 20 minutes now.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 20:43 GMT
#857
so many floater votes too...ugh
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 20:43 GMT
#858
On June 05 2015 05:41 ritoky wrote:
not everyone is a busaholic like us damdred


It's optimal in that situation though not unnecessary
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 04 2015 20:44 GMT
#859
On June 05 2015 05:36 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:
On June 05 2015 05:25 Tictock wrote:
On June 05 2015 05:23 ritoky wrote:
fuck me i really need to get this right....templar looks like he is gonna novote and make me pissed for the 2nd game in a row about no-voters...i would really rather not lose 2 town day 1.


Humm? You don't have faith in your vote?


i have lost some faith in chocolate being scum, and i really believe templar is scum. so currently it looks like we are for sure losing 1 town today....i want to make a good choice and not lose 2. the only way i see chocolate being scum right now is if he is scum WITH TEMPLAR because of their thread re-entry. if one was scum and the other wasn't i feel they would push the opposing wagon. and if that is the case, then templar dying will be a free dead scum.


Is it a bad sign that this logic pleases me since I'm reading them both as scum?

GG's vote just seems like it's too hand wavey justified to me. I guess you put a lot more faith into this theory of play than I do, but to each their own on playstyle choice.

Choco has been making similarly bad scumreads and votes. This switch onto Kick seems really scummy to me as well.

is it scummy to not want to die? seems pretty logical to me

@scott from scummy to not scum

Kickstart VisceraEyes
Tictock
Onegu sicklucker
Damdred
GGTemplar
ritoky
milo
scott31337
NydusHerMain
Fidei86 (maybe trying to clear himself in the future by siding with me)?

NydusHerMain, I don't really know
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2015 20:46 GMT
#860
On June 05 2015 05:39 Damdred wrote:
Scott, do you think I'm town.

Why don't you feel a ks lynch


I have a slight town read on you - but you've done all you have so far as mafia, so it's not much.

What are you thinking? Vote KS?
If he flips town are you going to go "oops" and try again day 2?
If he flips mafia then we all drink and toast in your name right?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
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