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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2015 20:48 GMT
#861
The reason I don't feel it? a few thoughts and a lot of posting. I know he could just be posting to have a big filter and not say much and try make it look good. I just think we have better choices today.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 04 2015 20:48 GMT
#862
I really hate this Chocolate lynch..... Kickstart is a much better candidate.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 20:49 GMT
#863
fuck it, yolo, i am probably getting killed tonight anywayz.

##vote: kickstart

reasons previously stated, plus i am down on the chocolate lynch.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 20:49 GMT
#864
damdred if you're scum you pocketed me so hard this game; plz don't be swagging on me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 04 2015 20:50 GMT
#865
Well just in case:

Chocolate definitely seems scummy, all the events leading up the lynch seem even more scummy to me, if he survives take a serious look at that.

Damdred tunneled me hard and provided not much on anyone else in my opinion. I may be biased here but he will need a serious lookover as well.

I get the feeling ritocky is getting a bit of a free ride on everyone calling him town, especially with his vote towards end of lynch. For someone who has been pretty clear and sure of his reads and thoughts he is creating a lot of chaos around the lynch in my eyes, make sure to reevaluate him and not just ride or die him as being town.

In order for me to get lynched ritocky would have to throw his vote my way, which in my mind would be unjustified from him, and then milo and Nydus would have to throw votes on me I think. Would be understandable from milo, not so much from Nydus imo.

Anyways this is just in case I get lynched as I am really uneasy about the situation we are in atm with only 15 minutes to go as I don't think it is out of this world for ritocky milo SL nydus and fideu to throw votes my way in the last minute. If a vote swap onto me is successful and this happens, the most suspicious would me Damdred, chocolate, ritocky, nydus in probably that order.

10 minutes to go
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 04 2015 20:50 GMT
#866
Lol called it.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 04 2015 20:51 GMT
#867
Im now equal in votes with chocolate, if one other person I said switched to me I get lynched, if not chocolate gets lynched.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2015 20:51 GMT
#868
Tied now... Arrrrr Ritoky has some good points but I just seem mafia trying to shennanie on to a town now.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 04 2015 20:52 GMT
#869
milos vote is on me, the only one that makes sense in my opinion as he hasnt liked me since the beginning.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 20:52 GMT
#870
you seem to have missed this:

On June 05 2015 04:52 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 04:45 Kickstart wrote:
I can see there is a push to try and move on me, I already asked for your concerns about me so I can address them. Now that there is seeming support from ritocky, can you two (and whoever else has concerns) present them so I can address them?


Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 04:00 ritoky wrote:
but yes he was kinda on me when it was fashionable, then on milo when it was fashionable, then on templar when it is fashionable. he never seems to lead from the front of a lynch despite being the 2nd loudest person in the game, which is why he is in my null zone. coupled w/ the weird nydus thing and some other shit i can't remember off the top of my head.


couple that with sometimes you type a lot and say very little as well as you overanswer questions. and lastly your thread re-entry in stark contrast to templar and chocolate. templar comes back to the thread, gives his reads, says "the other lynch is shit, we should vote TT". Chocolate comes back to the thread, gives a brief defense and reads, says "the templar lynch is shit, we should lynch Onegu". you come back to the thread, start yelling and OMGUSing damdred and jump off a wagon losing steam onto the other popular one for a meh reason.

i am very against lynching templar and down a bit on lynching chocolate. i have softened a bit after sleeping off my rage @ TT. which kinda leaves me at SL, you, nydus, milo. and maybe staying on chocolate.

dunno interested in damdred's pov.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 04 2015 20:53 GMT
#871
Yes they are trying to last minute onto me, it became evident to me when ritocky starts casting uncertainty on me out of nowhere.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 20:53 GMT
#872
I don't see Scum doing a play by play of his own death like this...

Kick, why are you like rallying people to vote you?
I can take that responsibility.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 20:53 GMT
#873
i think that if chocolate is mafia, he is likely with templar, so a mafia will die today regardless.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2015 20:54 GMT
#874
I remember you saying that in my game when I got lynched D1 as town - and I jumped on another wagon instead of the popular one, and look - I was town.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 04 2015 20:54 GMT
#875
On June 05 2015 05:52 ritoky wrote:
you seem to have missed this:

Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 04:52 ritoky wrote:
On June 05 2015 04:45 Kickstart wrote:
I can see there is a push to try and move on me, I already asked for your concerns about me so I can address them. Now that there is seeming support from ritocky, can you two (and whoever else has concerns) present them so I can address them?


On June 05 2015 04:00 ritoky wrote:
but yes he was kinda on me when it was fashionable, then on milo when it was fashionable, then on templar when it is fashionable. he never seems to lead from the front of a lynch despite being the 2nd loudest person in the game, which is why he is in my null zone. coupled w/ the weird nydus thing and some other shit i can't remember off the top of my head.


couple that with sometimes you type a lot and say very little as well as you overanswer questions. and lastly your thread re-entry in stark contrast to templar and chocolate. templar comes back to the thread, gives his reads, says "the other lynch is shit, we should vote TT". Chocolate comes back to the thread, gives a brief defense and reads, says "the templar lynch is shit, we should lynch Onegu". you come back to the thread, start yelling and OMGUSing damdred and jump off a wagon losing steam onto the other popular one for a meh reason.

i am very against lynching templar and down a bit on lynching chocolate. i have softened a bit after sleeping off my rage @ TT. which kinda leaves me at SL, you, nydus, milo. and maybe staying on chocolate.

dunno interested in damdred's pov.


I explained everything you pointed out. Your actions around this lynch are extremely suspect and I implore everyone to reevaluate you at the end, regardless of the outcome of this lynch.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 20:55 GMT
#876
On June 05 2015 05:54 scott31337 wrote:
I remember you saying that in my game when I got lynched D1 as town - and I jumped on another wagon instead of the popular one, and look - I was town.


this EXACT read is why i am defending chocolate and templar. they did the same shit you did that game. it is literally the same scenario. i just realized it too late in that game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 20:55 GMT
#877
On June 05 2015 05:53 ritoky wrote:
i think that if chocolate is mafia, he is likely with templar, so a mafia will die today regardless.


Should we really assume Mod decisions ahead of time though? You are likely right, but why assume?
I can take that responsibility.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 04 2015 20:55 GMT
#878
case for KS
sorry for formatting in a hurry

"Took a nap cause I was feeling like shit and moody, probably came through in my posting. Lots of people have taken issue with my Nydus town read. I just want to say again that it was hastily done and I just said it off the top of my head because people were pressuring me to give more town reads (which again I don't find fair since I gave them, but people are greedy and wanted more and I reacted badly). It can be ignored and I have tried to explain why it happened, I will have to reevaluate him later but like I said I would probably not lynch him at the moment."
backpedaling and trying to appease everybody

"After addressing everyone getting a tryhard/bossy vibe from me, do you still find me suspicious? Does my defense that this is normal from me change your opinion at all?

I agree with the town reads part, that is why I don't like to give them this early but since I was asked for opinions on more than just milo i did give a few. Do you still find scott and myself to be most suspicious or has that changed?"
more appeasement

"Again milo I think you are focusing too much on me just because I was pressuring you so hard. That is fine I guess but I still would like to hear thoughts on someone aside from me you find scummy, or am I the only one at this point? Your points in my case I don't find particularly good either but I can address those later if people think they hold weight, for now I will work on posting reads on people aside from you as I have had multiple requests to do so."
evasion

"That said, is milo still slight town and I still slight scum to you? Are there any other reads you can give besides us two at this point?"
evasion

"Well me OMGUSing everything is a stretch. I went on milo and sl before they even mentioned me, and my read on GGT is the same with or without him directing anything at me. I am generally of the opinion that town reads aren't of much use D1, but I was pressured to name some earlier and I named yourself and VE, for basically the same reasons. I felt that you were both applying pressure when needed, you were both driving discussion, and both were being open and honest with your thoughts - all of which I think is helpful and thus I feel that you have been helpful for town up to this point. Does that mean I think you are both 100% town? No, but I feel confident in saying that I would not vote on either of you this cycle. To be honest the only other person I feel is slightly town atm is Nydus, but definitely not on the same level as you two. I have real issues with almost everyone else who I havent mentioned because I just feel their posts are void of strong feelings and I don't like that style of play. Namely I feel like Damdred, scott, Onegu, and Fideu (just off the top of my head) are not giving us anything to work with, their posts are void of reads and strong opinions, and while Damdred has asked a lot of questions and put a bit of pressure on at times, he is still guilty of not giving us his thoughts (though he said this is how he plays and that he will wait to make a stronger case when he is ready - which I intend to hold him too, if Day 1 ends and he is still guilty of what I outlined above I will have some real questions about him because he has been active enough and seems experiences and good enough to give some solid reads but has yet to do so). I think scott and fideu are new so I can understand the reluctance to stick their necks out on anything but I don't feel that is a real excuse, they still need to share their thoughts on things. Onegu seems to have arrived late on the scene but already his posting style is suspicious to me, much too much joking around; while this is normal and understandable at the start of the game, I feel like there is plenty of content to actually address, which he has not done. Can anyone tell me if this is normal posting from Onegu?"
verbal diarrhea which confused me, probably others

"id mention my issues with chocolate before and it seems he is getting a lot of heat atm, will see that happens there."
"well I'd like to bandwagon but I don't want to be held accountable for it"
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 04 2015 20:55 GMT
#879
Because I am town and the only way for me to interpret these events is scum last minute piling onto me with shit reasons to get a mys lynch - I see no other way of interpreting this.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 20:56 GMT
#880
On June 05 2015 05:55 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 05:53 ritoky wrote:
i think that if chocolate is mafia, he is likely with templar, so a mafia will die today regardless.


Should we really assume Mod decisions ahead of time though? You are likely right, but why assume?


read the blue:

On June 05 2015 05:09 GlowingBear wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

milo109(0): ritoky, Kickstart, VisceraEyes
Tictock(1): sicklucker
Chocolate(5): VisceraEyes, VisceraEyes, ritoky, VisceraEyes, Scott, Kickstart, Tictock
GGTemplar(1): Kickstart, Tictock, NydusHerMain, Scott, VisceraEyes
VisceraEyes(1): Chocolate, milo109
Onegu(2): Fidei86, Chocolate
Kickstart(1): Damdred
Damdred(1) Onegu

Not Voting (1): GGTemplar

Currently, Chocolate is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is located here.
Posting after the deadline and before the flip will result in a modkill.
UNJUSTIFIED FAILURE TO VOTE WILL RESULT IN A MODKILL

Please, check if your votes are correctly placed. I'm traveling and phone posting


“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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