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Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 04 2015 21:29 GMT
#901
On June 05 2015 06:28 Fidei86 wrote:
[Can we post again?]


Yes. Obviously.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 04 2015 21:30 GMT
#902
Sorry. I should have voted Chocolate instead of just unvoting. I panicked.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 21:31 GMT
#903
On June 05 2015 06:26 scott31337 wrote:
You should've claimed earlier when it was so close. Gosh darn it


100% agree.

I cant believe Damdred & ritoky just got our Jailkeeper lynched D1.

Milo was at least consistent with his read, though he seemed to be rethinking his vote last min. Choco was voting for his life I get that, but it's also a fantastic way to push a ML.

Fidei... I don't even know.

I'm pretty frustrated by that EoD. At least we didn't end up with like 4 Modkills...
I can take that responsibility.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 04 2015 21:32 GMT
#904
If ritoky switched because I left to go get my daughter and cook dinner I'm going to be fucking furious. FURIOUS.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 21:32 GMT
#905
Also welcome to Shendelzare.

Since you are taking over for SL, I give you a weak scum read.

That is all. I'm out for the night but will check in later in Night phase.
I can take that responsibility.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2015 21:34 GMT
#906
milo109(0): ritoky, Kickstart, VisceraEyes
Tictock(1): sicklucker
Chocolate(4): VisceraEyes, VisceraEyes, ritoky, VisceraEyes, Scott, Kickstart, Tictock
GGTemplar(1): Kickstart, Tictock, NydusHerMain, Scott, VisceraEyes
VisceraEyes(0): Chocolate, milo109
Onegu(0): Fidei86, Chocolate
Kickstart(4): Damdred, Chocolate, milo109, ritoky, Fidei86
Damdred(1) Onegu

Not Voting (2): GGTemplar, milo109

So Fidei basically hammered our JK/town, and milo unvoted with one minute left and did not add a different vote. It looks really bad for them.

Milo why did you unvote with one minute left and not vote someone else?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 04 2015 21:35 GMT
#907
Because I saw the jailer post but didn't know who I wanted to revote. It was stupid of me, I should have just gone on Chocolate.
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 04 2015 21:35 GMT
#908
On June 05 2015 06:30 milo109 wrote:
Sorry. I should have voted Chocolate instead of just unvoting. I panicked.


What I'd like to know what the "panic" was for...sounds like he was afraid.
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 04 2015 21:36 GMT
#909
Never mind.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 21:39 GMT
#910
I'm not sure why ritoky and myself should get all the blame? The logical,thing is if you are so scared you are getting lynched claim when there's time to parse the information.

My points had value, he did do questionable,things .

Tick immediately moving to discredit someone who steeped and the leader of the wagon is interesting
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 04 2015 21:40 GMT
#911

Good luck town.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 21:40 GMT
#912
i have to go to work. milo is confirmed town in every world pretty much. he is inno child to me.

be back late tonight.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 04 2015 21:42 GMT
#913
I gave my reasons already, but I guess I'll restate them. From the get-go, I was wary of Kickstart's posts. I agreed that he posted long blocks of text that didn't say too much, and I found his tone very "in the know". Clearly one of the reasons for that was that he was actually the jail-keeper. Conversely, I found myself generally sympathising with Chocolate as he got tunnelled by VE pretty hard. I agreed with his reads, such as they were, although as I said I'd like to see more detail from him in the future.

I wasn't sold on lynching either of them, honestly. I wanted to lynch Onegu. As the deadline approached, however, it became clear that one vote would flip the vote between Chocolate and Kickstart. I've never believed (outside of mafia) that people should dodge difficult votes - even though I didn't want to lynch either of them, I thought I should cast my vote in the race and save the person more likely to be town. I wasn't furiously clicking refresh on the page, so I didn't see KS's claim. If I had, I would have obviously switched my vote (maybe back to Onegu, or over to Chocolate, I guess it would have made no matter).
Shendelzare
Profile Joined May 2015
Netherlands126 Posts
June 04 2015 21:48 GMT
#914
On the topic of votes, NHM and Onegu were solo voters - did those two push their votes in any way or scumread either of the wagons at any point? Doesn't look like Onegu was around for end of day.

Still on page 23.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 21:49 GMT
#915
On June 05 2015 06:39 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure why ritoky and myself should get all the blame? The logical,thing is if you are so scared you are getting lynched claim when there's time to parse the information.

My points had value, he did do questionable,things .

Tick immediately moving to discredit someone who steeped and the leader of the wagon is interesting


Before I head out the door let me respond to this, kus it is pissing me off a little.

First, I'm upset that you guys just got our jailkeep lynched. I stated time and time again that i was against it and tried to go against your push on him.

Maybe you and ritoky aren't scum for starting the wagon on Kick, I get that. However this subtle deflection back to me when I just stated I was about to head out for awhile looks super shitty.

You guys def deserve some blame for that lynch. I wasn't going to scum you for it, but I sure as hell scum you after posting that.

I already thought Choco was scum. Why should I feel any different now?
I can take that responsibility.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 04 2015 22:02 GMT
#916
One piece of useful information for the town, I guess (although it doesn't exactly help me :-\) is that if either, ritoky or I are mafia, Chocolate is also basically 100% guaranteed mafia as well. My reasoning (just in case it isn't obvious) is that if either of us are mafia then we would have known Choco was mafia and jumped on the KS wagon to save him. It would make no sense if we were mafia to jump on one town bandwagon over another, especially as we had both lots of other plausible targets to go on.

I would hesitate to include Damdred in this, since he was on the KS wagon from the start, so it could have just been a bad read.

I've played with the rest of the permutations in my head a bit, and I don't think either or both of us being confirmed town does anything to exhonerate chocolate, and nor does chocolate being mafia necessarily implicate us (although it would look super bad).
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 22:03 GMT
#917
I'm pretty sure tick is Scum here.

A mislynch happens you don't blame people that's just silly and a discrediting tactic. Was my case bad, no. Was it wrong yes.

Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 04 2015 22:03 GMT
#918
EBWOP: Please discard the above and use the below, which is the result of some post-posting sense checking.

One piece of useful information for the town, I guess (although it doesn't exactly help me :-\) is that if either, ritoky or I are mafia, Chocolate is also basically 100% guaranteed mafia as well. My reasoning (just in case it isn't obvious) is that if either of us are mafia then we would have known Choco was mafia and jumped on the KS wagon to save him. It would make no sense if we were mafia and chocolate was actually town, as there would be no reason for us to jump on one town bandwagon over another, especially as we had both lots of other plausible targets to go on.

I would hesitate to include Damdred in this, since he was on the KS wagon from the start, so it could have just been a bad read.

I've played with the rest of the permutations in my head a bit, and I don't think either or both of us being confirmed town does anything to exhonerate Chocolate, and nor does Chocolate being mafia necessarily implicate us (although it would look super bad).
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 04 2015 22:14 GMT
#919
I pushed my lynch.

I told you all I was the best player in this game. That is reason enough to sheep me.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 04 2015 22:21 GMT
#920
Actually, there are two other permutations here:

1. If Damdred is mafia then Chocolate is almost 100% town because it would be very strange indeed for the mafia to target another mafia like that.

2. If chocolate is town, it makes it very unlikely ritoky and I would be mafia, for the same reasoning as above, namely that it would make no sense for ritoky or I to get involved in that kill if both the 'wagons' were actually town. We could have very easily left it alone, knowing either way a town was most likely to die. Obviously it wouldn't totally exhonerate us, but I find the other possibility (that we were mafia and just wanted to get on a town v town wagon for some next-level reason) extremely unlikely.

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