• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:13
CEST 13:13
KST 20:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo16Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Updates to The Core/Core Lite for v5.0.16?
Tourneys
GSL CK #4 20-21th June Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
STARCRAFT MOVIE - Last Night at the Command center BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Battle cruiser feet vs Carrier fleet Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSLAN 4 is Coming! Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8182 users

[M][N]Holy Guardians Chapter 1 - Page 37

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 121 Next
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 04 2015 17:02 GMT
#721
On June 05 2015 01:52 Damdred wrote:
I don't actually believe you believe anything you say

That's just a weird thing to say. Why do you think that?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 17:04 GMT
#722
Because what you are bringing against me just sounds fake at points
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 04 2015 17:05 GMT
#723
You might be a little biased.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 17:07 GMT
#724
Not really, for example you put it as a scum point that I used some of the same words to describe fi post(?) that is just fake to me.

I honestly don't care if I get lynched today or not but its not going to be for that stuff.

Just explain why it makes me scum
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 04 2015 17:08 GMT
#725
On June 05 2015 01:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Also, the main reason I don't really have a read on VE/chocolate is I just don't find their interaction very meaningful or useful at all with regards to solving their alignment. In reading the thread it just didn't stick or to me or seem interesting at all. I would like to see their thoughts on myself/tictock/kickstart interaction and of damdred's vs scott's analysis of it.

While I was unable to really discern either damdred's or scott's analysis from their content regarding me/tictock/kickstart, I believe they have spent a lot of time focusing on it. One of them is probably mafia as well tbh.

I don't really see you guys as mafia and I don't think either TT or KS is scum at the moment, just misguided town
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 04 2015 17:13 GMT
#726
You think all 5 of us are just all misguided town? really?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 04 2015 17:13 GMT
#727
Can you give a little more?
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 04 2015 17:19 GMT
#728
I don't have a strong enough read on any of you to say that any individual is scum and I don't really want to vote on any of you currently. Statistically I suppose one of that 5 is scum but that's not necessarily the case

I'm going to read everything again but I never found much of it compelling

milo I encourage you to change your vote to Onegu rather than VE because it looks like most people don't really want to vote on VE currently
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 17:25 GMT
#729
If we policy lynch id rather lynch SL than oneg though because oneg has tl family things
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 04 2015 17:47 GMT
#730
Temp will you explain your Milo townread plz? It's been around since the beginning and you've never explained it, and I've been steadily pushing on milo since like 4 hours into the game. It seems to me like you'd have more of a read on me than "I don't find the Chocolate/VE interaction to be very telling" since I've been pushing on one of your stronger townreads.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 17:53 GMT
#731
@GG

I'm liking your more recent posts more, despite the fact that your still gunning for me pretty hard. At least now I can confirm it's due to your own thinking and not some kinda sheep like i thought before. I'm not familiar enough with this "Chezinu" stuff to refute any of it, but my "vote" on ritoky was mostly random pressure to see if he's give us something more solid thanks to it.

I'm not sure I follow your thinking between Kick and myself and why one of us has to be mafia in your eyes. It seems kinda WIFOM to me, but maybe its from this trolly-response thing your taking really seriously?

Then there's this post. I don't get where your thinking is coming from here at all. I was never talking about Kick in that post, expect in reference to scotts post where he asks Kick about his other reads. And I never said I liked scotts push on Milo, I liked him calling out my own weak read on Milo.

I'm still having a very hard time understanding where you are coming from with your read on me and you misreading or misinterpreting my post there isn't helping. I have this feeling like you've just reached some pre-drawn conclusion about me at this point and are making excuses to keep it.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 18:02 GMT
#732
On June 05 2015 02:25 Damdred wrote:
If we policy lynch id rather lynch SL than oneg though because oneg has tl family things


I could possibly get behind a policy lynch, but I'm still having a hard time understanding where GG is coming from. I'm not convinced he's town yet.

I think it's pretty odd that SL has been absent. There is possibly some out of game stuff going on behind that though (not sure how cool it is to talk about that stuff).

I'm pretty unimpressed with Onegu. I thought he's maybe respond a little last night when he bounced in but sadly Kick was the only one to respond to my silly response to his silliness.

Choco is another person I need to look at in more detail. His attitude towards voting VE plus his other weak scum reads after he said he prioritizes scum reads has me not too fond of him atm.

And I was also expecting a little more content from you EoD Damdred... at least you never took that 18-30hr leave of absence.
I can take that responsibility.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2015 18:09 GMT
#733
On June 05 2015 00:59 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 00:36 Chocolate wrote:
It's a really hard choice, honestly since i'm not really sold on anyone being 100% mafia I would just get rid of Onegu/SL as my first choice because
1. it's easy to hide as mafia if you never contribute
2. even if they are town they aren't very helpful

unless someone makes a very good case for someone else or wants to vote one of these people with me I'll probably just leave my vote on VE because it looks like he isn't going to get lynched and (I think) we need to vote for at least somebody


I really agree with what Chocolate said about Onegu, save that the lurking is so obvious (and lurking is such a classic mafia play, as I understand anyway) that he would be mad to play like this if he were actually mafia. Still, I'm leaning towards voting for him just because I don't think there's any totally slam-dunk targets today and if we mislynch on him, at least we won't be losing anyone who is being a useful townie. Obviously I'm not saying that I want a mislynch, just saying that statistically the likelihood is quite high that we will, so we should take town-contribution into account as well when voting.

Some people sort of defended him earlier, saying that this was just his usual play style when he was town. Can we hear from those people again, just to get their read now we're going into the first night?


Bad post - seems to look like trying to go for an Onegu Mislynch in my opinion, try to start a bandwagon. Is this from a town who doesn't like Onegu or a scum trying a wagon away from GG or Chocolate? I know Onegu isn't playing great, but he will shine his moments when need be or we can worry about him tomorrow. I don't want to lynch him today. Onegu thinks Chocolate and Milo are town though.

On June 05 2015 01:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I would like Scott's thoughts on my analysis of why the 'Chezinu rule' which he spent a great deal of thought on this game applies and points to 'Tictock' as scum pushing on Ritoky-Chezinu, not myself as scum pushing on Tictock-Chezinu.



I didn't spend a whole lot of thought, I copy/pasted most of what it was about from another thread. Your vote (and you never did really vote) was fairly early and seemed to be of starting a wagon going early. Do you know what I mean?

On June 05 2015 02:25 Damdred wrote:
If we policy lynch id rather lynch SL than oneg though because oneg has tl family things


I would agree because I do not see SL being re-motivated, but I'd rather not vote him today either unless you aren't seeing bigger fish.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 04 2015 18:11 GMT
#734
@Scott - could you explain what you mean by "he will shine his moments when need be"? Have you played with him before?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 18:13 GMT
#735
i am back. catching up as fast as possible
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2015 18:14 GMT
#736
On June 04 2015 16:15 ritoky wrote:
well going to bed and i think this is the best lynch:

##vote: chocolate

he wanted to policy lynch scott for inactivity before the person he made a scum case on in VE, which makes absolutely no sense to me. when pressured and asked about it he gave some convoluted response about a thought process which never occurred in the thread, him having a read on scott that didn't exist because it was policy, and some factually incorrect information.

add this onto VE's case, and i think it is currently the best vote.


VE just stealth voted onto GG - I'm about 70% GG is town just by how the votes are going. The case can't be that great...

I already have a spider sense someone who's pocketing me is mafia - just need to figure out who.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2015 18:16 GMT
#737
On June 05 2015 03:11 Fidei86 wrote:
@Scott - could you explain what you mean by "he will shine his moments when need be"? Have you played with him before?


He's really good at finding mafia when he's town, but he doesn't build cases very well. I've observed probably at least five of his games. He likes to roll mafia and enjoys it more. As town he's usually pretty meh the first day until he's got votes and such to look at - and that's why I want him for at least another day. If day two still sucks we can go after him.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 18:18 GMT
#738
On June 05 2015 03:11 Fidei86 wrote:
@Scott - could you explain what you mean by "he will shine his moments when need be"? Have you played with him before?


I'd like to know this as well. Something about Onegu's tone is making me not want to lynch him, but I have to admit his posts are total shit at this point.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 18:18 GMT
#739
Heh, shoulda refreshed rather than hit post >.<
I can take that responsibility.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 18:21 GMT
#740
I'm actually at a weird point. Its kind of hard for me to decide who I want to lynch, sl is totally absent but he usually cares a lot when he's scum and not as much as town unless he's confirmed or something.

kick is totally absent leading up to lynch which is a huge red flag to me.

GG postings make me not want to lynch him.

I think Milo is okish just being badish with his read on me.

Its a weird day, ve looks ok to at this point hate the ninja vote though.

Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 121 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Spring Champion…
11:00
Playoffs
WardiTV321
TaKeTV 207
IntoTheiNu 148
TKL 114
IndyStarCraft 20
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SHIN 138
TKL 114
trigger 62
IndyStarCraft 20
MindelVK 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 8229
Mini 1804
Horang2 846
Hyuk 829
firebathero 751
EffOrt 299
actioN 293
Soulkey 202
Last 167
NaDa 152
[ Show more ]
Light 94
Pusan 83
Mong 56
Free 54
JulyZerg 52
sorry 52
Movie 32
Shine 31
yabsab 31
Sharp 27
Hm[arnc] 19
HiyA 15
Noble 13
Bale 11
Sea.KH 6
Dota 2
Gorgc7156
XcaliburYe146
Fuzer 136
Counter-Strike
x6flipin426
Sick251
Other Games
B2W.Neo323
Pyrionflax291
Hui .230
XlorD94
DeMusliM15
Happy6
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream5569
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream4927
Other Games
gamesdonequick697
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 27
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH253
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota251
Upcoming Events
GSL
47m
Maru vs Reynor
Lambo vs Solar
SHIN 138
IPSL
4h 47m
Hawk vs Julia
Patches Events
5h 47m
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
7h 47m
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
12h 47m
WardiTV Weekly
23h 47m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 4h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 22h
The PondCast
2 days
Douyu Cup 2020
3 days
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
[ Show More ]
Douyu Cup 2020
4 days
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
5 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
6 days
Douyu Cup 2020
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-19
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light HT
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.