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milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 04 2015 17:02 GMT
#721
On June 05 2015 01:52 Damdred wrote:
I don't actually believe you believe anything you say

That's just a weird thing to say. Why do you think that?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 17:04 GMT
#722
Because what you are bringing against me just sounds fake at points
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 04 2015 17:05 GMT
#723
You might be a little biased.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 17:07 GMT
#724
Not really, for example you put it as a scum point that I used some of the same words to describe fi post(?) that is just fake to me.

I honestly don't care if I get lynched today or not but its not going to be for that stuff.

Just explain why it makes me scum
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 04 2015 17:08 GMT
#725
On June 05 2015 01:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Also, the main reason I don't really have a read on VE/chocolate is I just don't find their interaction very meaningful or useful at all with regards to solving their alignment. In reading the thread it just didn't stick or to me or seem interesting at all. I would like to see their thoughts on myself/tictock/kickstart interaction and of damdred's vs scott's analysis of it.

While I was unable to really discern either damdred's or scott's analysis from their content regarding me/tictock/kickstart, I believe they have spent a lot of time focusing on it. One of them is probably mafia as well tbh.

I don't really see you guys as mafia and I don't think either TT or KS is scum at the moment, just misguided town
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 04 2015 17:13 GMT
#726
You think all 5 of us are just all misguided town? really?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 04 2015 17:13 GMT
#727
Can you give a little more?
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 04 2015 17:19 GMT
#728
I don't have a strong enough read on any of you to say that any individual is scum and I don't really want to vote on any of you currently. Statistically I suppose one of that 5 is scum but that's not necessarily the case

I'm going to read everything again but I never found much of it compelling

milo I encourage you to change your vote to Onegu rather than VE because it looks like most people don't really want to vote on VE currently
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 17:25 GMT
#729
If we policy lynch id rather lynch SL than oneg though because oneg has tl family things
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 04 2015 17:47 GMT
#730
Temp will you explain your Milo townread plz? It's been around since the beginning and you've never explained it, and I've been steadily pushing on milo since like 4 hours into the game. It seems to me like you'd have more of a read on me than "I don't find the Chocolate/VE interaction to be very telling" since I've been pushing on one of your stronger townreads.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 17:53 GMT
#731
@GG

I'm liking your more recent posts more, despite the fact that your still gunning for me pretty hard. At least now I can confirm it's due to your own thinking and not some kinda sheep like i thought before. I'm not familiar enough with this "Chezinu" stuff to refute any of it, but my "vote" on ritoky was mostly random pressure to see if he's give us something more solid thanks to it.

I'm not sure I follow your thinking between Kick and myself and why one of us has to be mafia in your eyes. It seems kinda WIFOM to me, but maybe its from this trolly-response thing your taking really seriously?

Then there's this post. I don't get where your thinking is coming from here at all. I was never talking about Kick in that post, expect in reference to scotts post where he asks Kick about his other reads. And I never said I liked scotts push on Milo, I liked him calling out my own weak read on Milo.

I'm still having a very hard time understanding where you are coming from with your read on me and you misreading or misinterpreting my post there isn't helping. I have this feeling like you've just reached some pre-drawn conclusion about me at this point and are making excuses to keep it.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 18:02 GMT
#732
On June 05 2015 02:25 Damdred wrote:
If we policy lynch id rather lynch SL than oneg though because oneg has tl family things


I could possibly get behind a policy lynch, but I'm still having a hard time understanding where GG is coming from. I'm not convinced he's town yet.

I think it's pretty odd that SL has been absent. There is possibly some out of game stuff going on behind that though (not sure how cool it is to talk about that stuff).

I'm pretty unimpressed with Onegu. I thought he's maybe respond a little last night when he bounced in but sadly Kick was the only one to respond to my silly response to his silliness.

Choco is another person I need to look at in more detail. His attitude towards voting VE plus his other weak scum reads after he said he prioritizes scum reads has me not too fond of him atm.

And I was also expecting a little more content from you EoD Damdred... at least you never took that 18-30hr leave of absence.
I can take that responsibility.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2015 18:09 GMT
#733
On June 05 2015 00:59 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 00:36 Chocolate wrote:
It's a really hard choice, honestly since i'm not really sold on anyone being 100% mafia I would just get rid of Onegu/SL as my first choice because
1. it's easy to hide as mafia if you never contribute
2. even if they are town they aren't very helpful

unless someone makes a very good case for someone else or wants to vote one of these people with me I'll probably just leave my vote on VE because it looks like he isn't going to get lynched and (I think) we need to vote for at least somebody


I really agree with what Chocolate said about Onegu, save that the lurking is so obvious (and lurking is such a classic mafia play, as I understand anyway) that he would be mad to play like this if he were actually mafia. Still, I'm leaning towards voting for him just because I don't think there's any totally slam-dunk targets today and if we mislynch on him, at least we won't be losing anyone who is being a useful townie. Obviously I'm not saying that I want a mislynch, just saying that statistically the likelihood is quite high that we will, so we should take town-contribution into account as well when voting.

Some people sort of defended him earlier, saying that this was just his usual play style when he was town. Can we hear from those people again, just to get their read now we're going into the first night?


Bad post - seems to look like trying to go for an Onegu Mislynch in my opinion, try to start a bandwagon. Is this from a town who doesn't like Onegu or a scum trying a wagon away from GG or Chocolate? I know Onegu isn't playing great, but he will shine his moments when need be or we can worry about him tomorrow. I don't want to lynch him today. Onegu thinks Chocolate and Milo are town though.

On June 05 2015 01:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I would like Scott's thoughts on my analysis of why the 'Chezinu rule' which he spent a great deal of thought on this game applies and points to 'Tictock' as scum pushing on Ritoky-Chezinu, not myself as scum pushing on Tictock-Chezinu.



I didn't spend a whole lot of thought, I copy/pasted most of what it was about from another thread. Your vote (and you never did really vote) was fairly early and seemed to be of starting a wagon going early. Do you know what I mean?

On June 05 2015 02:25 Damdred wrote:
If we policy lynch id rather lynch SL than oneg though because oneg has tl family things


I would agree because I do not see SL being re-motivated, but I'd rather not vote him today either unless you aren't seeing bigger fish.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 04 2015 18:11 GMT
#734
@Scott - could you explain what you mean by "he will shine his moments when need be"? Have you played with him before?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 18:13 GMT
#735
i am back. catching up as fast as possible
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2015 18:14 GMT
#736
On June 04 2015 16:15 ritoky wrote:
well going to bed and i think this is the best lynch:

##vote: chocolate

he wanted to policy lynch scott for inactivity before the person he made a scum case on in VE, which makes absolutely no sense to me. when pressured and asked about it he gave some convoluted response about a thought process which never occurred in the thread, him having a read on scott that didn't exist because it was policy, and some factually incorrect information.

add this onto VE's case, and i think it is currently the best vote.


VE just stealth voted onto GG - I'm about 70% GG is town just by how the votes are going. The case can't be that great...

I already have a spider sense someone who's pocketing me is mafia - just need to figure out who.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2015 18:16 GMT
#737
On June 05 2015 03:11 Fidei86 wrote:
@Scott - could you explain what you mean by "he will shine his moments when need be"? Have you played with him before?


He's really good at finding mafia when he's town, but he doesn't build cases very well. I've observed probably at least five of his games. He likes to roll mafia and enjoys it more. As town he's usually pretty meh the first day until he's got votes and such to look at - and that's why I want him for at least another day. If day two still sucks we can go after him.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 18:18 GMT
#738
On June 05 2015 03:11 Fidei86 wrote:
@Scott - could you explain what you mean by "he will shine his moments when need be"? Have you played with him before?


I'd like to know this as well. Something about Onegu's tone is making me not want to lynch him, but I have to admit his posts are total shit at this point.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 18:18 GMT
#739
Heh, shoulda refreshed rather than hit post >.<
I can take that responsibility.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 18:21 GMT
#740
I'm actually at a weird point. Its kind of hard for me to decide who I want to lynch, sl is totally absent but he usually cares a lot when he's scum and not as much as town unless he's confirmed or something.

kick is totally absent leading up to lynch which is a huge red flag to me.

GG postings make me not want to lynch him.

I think Milo is okish just being badish with his read on me.

Its a weird day, ve looks ok to at this point hate the ninja vote though.

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