Generic Boring Mini Mafia - Page 3

On May 20 2015 23:13 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm sober now

Extremely hangover, but sober

Palmar is Mafia.

On May 20 2015 19:55 sciberbia wrote:
This post will be a lot of interesting observations and no real conclusions. I'm hoping someone else can tell me what to make of these observations.

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The start of the Vivax wagon is really bizarre. There are 0 votes on Vivax and the lynch seems to be coming down to Shockey vs Obi. Then, Palmar makes a case on Vivax, and shortly thereafter, 4 votes drop on Vivax within the span of 2 minutes of each other: Damdred --> Stutters --> Palmar --> Obi

GB makes a good point that Damdred's vote is questionable. Idk if Damdred is scum, because there were serveral things in his filter I thought were townie, but the vote is definitely a bit odd. He had scumreads on shockey, zealos, and obi which he never backed down from, yet he just kinda organizes this voteswitch onto vivax out of nowhere.

Stutters, having not said jack shit about Vivax all day, sheeps Palmar's case.

Palmar then drops his vote at Damdred's prompting. So, the previous leading candidate was Obi/Shockey. Palmar never even looks at my case on Obi or mentions Obi at all. He also does not seem concerned that Damdred, his other top scumread, is the one organizing the switch onto Vivax. He also does not seem concerned that Damdred is voting Vivax out of nowhere. Kinda sketchy. Like I'm not expecting Palmar to unvote Vivax just because Damdred voted him. But I would have expected Palmar to least raise eyebrows at Damdred's behavior. Instead, he just seems happy to have another disciple for his Vivax case.

Lastly, Obi who is clearly trying very hard not to get lynched and paying close attention to the vote count, has left his vote on the Shockey counterwagon to himself until he is assured that the Vivax counterwagon is strong enough. Then he switches his vote.

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I still kinda think Obi is mafia. Don't really know about Damdred/Palmar/Stutters, as I have reasons to think each of them are town. I think everyone should go back and look at how the Vivax wagon formed though. It just seems really weird to me and makes me think there could have been multiple mafia on it.

On May 20 2015 04:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

A) I questioned stutters before I changed my read on Damdred.
B) It doesn't fucking matter.

As for me being more active when I have votes on me, it's almost like I'm trying not to be lynched. :o

On May 20 2015 00:30 Vivax wrote:
Going to a friend so I'll keep being lazy and just sheep scib's big case, plus I had a feeling Obi was scum earlier. So seems like a win-win.

##Vote Obi

Will probably be back around 8-9 PM my time.

On May 20 2015 05:25 Palmar wrote:
I'm genuinely mad at him for being town.

On May 19 2015 00:00 Zealos wrote:

RE: ObiWanShinobi
I think it's pretty useless to make much of a read on him yet. I want him to post more, but during the first day it's hard to say whether inactivity is disinterest in day 1 or whether its something more scummy.

Comparing him to Palmar, I feel like Palmar is more destructive than Obi.

On May 21 2015 11:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Shockey, who is scum now since 2 of your scumreads flipped town?

On May 21 2015 11:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


How is that purely scum motivated?

On May 21 2015 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
It's not a conspiracy theory.
There's no conspiracy theory.
There's just nothing there.

On May 22 2015 03:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Am not scum.

On May 20 2015 23:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not mafia, though.

D:

On May 18 2015 07:47 Zealos wrote:
I'm not actually voting btw

On May 18 2015 15:40 Zealos wrote:
I really don't have much time this morning, and I'll post more when I get back from work in 8 or so hours. BUT, can we take a moment to discuss how dodgy Palmar has been so far??
He literally just jumps in, stirs up some random direction of conversation (Normally saying something that someone else has suggested) then just leaving the thread again??
He's got 6 posts, yet has "confirmed" 2/3 of the mafia team? wat?
I want to cross check this against another game, but until I have some time to do it, he's my strongest scumread.

On May 19 2015 00:00 Zealos wrote:

RE: ObiWanShinobi
I think it's pretty useless to make much of a read on him yet. I want him to post more, but during the first day it's hard to say whether inactivity is disinterest in day 1 or whether its something more scummy.

Comparing him to Palmar, I feel like Palmar is more destructive than Obi.

On May 20 2015 00:30 Vivax wrote:
Going to a friend so I'll keep being lazy and just sheep scib's big case, plus I had a feeling Obi was scum earlier. So seems like a win-win.

##Vote Obi

Will probably be back around 8-9 PM my time.

On May 18 2015 17:33 Palmar wrote:
Here's a listpost. The following people are on my shitlist.

Onegu
GlowingBear
Zealos

shitlist has nothing to do with being mafia, although of course it's possible to both be shitter and mafia. But these people should be treated as incapable of being useful regardless of their alignment.

Thank you!

On May 18 2015 07:40 sciberbia wrote:
##vote Zealos

Best read for mafia so far. He does a ton of filter-diving on Damdred to make it look like he's hardcore contributing, but he's super wishy-washy in his conclusions. Just look at the amount of hedging his bets here:






Like why even post all your research if you are this unsure in your conclusions? Looks like a good candidate for someone who is trying to look like they are contributing but isn't.

On May 23 2015 04:29 GlowingBear wrote:
HOW THE FUCK YOU AGREE WITH ME, THEN THE GUY MAKES THE EASIEST CASE IN THE GAME, YOU -SEE- IT'S FOR SURVIVAL BUT YOU VOTE ZEALOS, TRUFFLE?

HOW COME?

HOW?

I WILL BATHE IN KITTENS BLOOD IF YOU GUYS LYNCH ZEALOS FIRST

On May 23 2015 04:57 Qwerty! wrote:
Onegu, look at ShoCkeyy's play this past hour.

"Here, look at what I did! Lynch my target now!
[afk for half hour]
Lynch my target!
[afk again]"

The amount that he cares about actually pushing his lynch target isn't consistent with the words that he says. It isn't consistent with his posts,and it isn't consistent witha town mindset.

Please.

On May 23 2015 04:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:


YEA CAUSE I CAN SEE THE SCUMMY PLAY AND ITS NOT FOR SURVIVAL, ITS FOR FINAL POST IF I WERE TO GET LYNCHED AND WHEN I FLIPPED TOWN, AT LEAST YOU HAD CLUES TO THE NEXT LYNCH. LIKE I WORK AND I TRY TO POST AS MUCH AS I CAN TO WIN.

On May 23 2015 05:16 Qwerty! wrote:
Don't you see how inconsistent he is being...

He acts like he cares about making the right reads. He acts like he cares about the lynch.

He goes afk and only jumps in once in a while to respond to people scumreading him.

He makes a case to survive, then is upset when his target flips town.

It's pretty straight forward.

On May 24 2015 01:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, so, let's go.

I think the team is Damdred / Shockey / The Shining.

Regarding Damdred, summed up to the points I've brought earlier: he has no intention into getting organised with town. I'm saying this because Damdred points out I am tunneled in him. But if he knows I'm town, instead of showing me how I'm wrong and actually trying to work with me, he prefers to call me bad and tease me. It's just uncharacteristic for town Damdred to do something like this. If he has me as town, I'd expect him to try to work with me, and not berate my reads. He limits himself to discredit all my reads, all my gameplay, instead convincing me my other reads are also wrong and that Zealos is a better lynch. This is scum causing confusion and discrediting townies, trying to disorganise town.

I will NEVER change this read on Damdred. But Damdred has a big filter. That's all he has for call him town. And there are some attempts to read people that could be coming from town. COULD. But if you evaluate his overall gameplay, you will see an uninspiring filter. Tell me what are Damdred's scumreads after Zealos flipped scum. I have no idea.

But I'm not pursuing this matter anymore. If you think Damdred is more like a null, FINE. He played well as scum if he is. Let him live more days. But make sure to revisit him.

But do not let Shockey survive any longer. There are plenty of reasons for why he is scum, and not a single reasonable reason to why he is town. GO AGAINST HIM.

And even if you would prefer going for the 3rd instead of Damdred, FINE. The third is someone between The Shining/Truffle/Stutters.
The Shining's EoD2 is extremely opportunistic. After having being universally townread, his activity drops like hell, like he is comfortable with not being up for the lynch. Although he explicitly says he doesn't like day1, his day2 was also lackluster without any real excuses. Then he comes at EOD because he has to vote, and instead consolidating in a wagon, he DISRUPTS town organisation suggesting another wagon 20 minutes before deadline.

If The Shining is town, go for Truffle. Voting patterns are weird.

If Mafia doesn't have a roleblocker (I find impossible), then Stutters is dead today for being obvious blue.

Then you ask Damdred regarding his role, just in case.

I had more to talk about but I forgot

On May 24 2015 03:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


He already explained it. You would know if you actually bothered to read the thread at any point.

On May 24 2015 03:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


No. Read the fucking thread.

On May 24 2015 03:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shockey I am not holding your hand at all this game. I want you to be aware of how completely fucked you are if you don't obvtown this thread up in the next few hours.

I am perfectly willing to sink this game by killing you tomorrow regardless of your alignment and you being a lazy shit is not helping your case. You have been the counterwagon to town TWICE and both times your "associative analysis" has been opportunistic and incorrect by calling me the same alignment as three different confirmed townies, which is completely useless and never seems to affect your opinion on anything.

You don't reanalyze your thought process.
Nothing that happens ever seems to change your reads.
You don't give a shit about what anyone says about anything except maybe yourself.
You're not reading the thread.

Everyone left aside from maybe ONE person wants you dead, and he's pretty much the only reason that you're still here. Get to work.