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On May 29 2015 06:31 plotspot wrote:
bunnies you too, give us an idea who to vote between Sulfurus and boxerfred? I am also taking on ideas about lynching SL and dis, but if you don't have a strong case about them you don't need to present it, imo. That's just me personally, other persons will want them nevertheless, but I don't know who so they have to request it from you directly.
So I like boxerfred more than Sulfurus
The only thing I have on sulfurus as townie was the day 1 response to me, other than that, I haven't been impressed.
Boxer has atleast talked, pushed reads, made cases evven if they werent right. He seems to come from a townier perspective than Sulfurus does.
Id lynch dis over SL, but toher than my reasoning on day 1 i dont really have anything as why.
I'm going to do some filter diving later on tonight.
Hold me to it this time. I swear it will get done.
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On May 29 2015 08:45 plotspot wrote:
Ok let's just say this was the case, at that time when Breshke was killed, wouldn't that mean I'd not better RB the kill target like scum usually does, so how does Barakos get to be the target? This is like implying Barakos is scum coming out pretending to have been the target. That's kind of a stretch isn't it? We then already know that Barakos is the GF because he was already copchecked by bats.
Looking at this do you still think I am Mafia RB? only possible if Barakos is GF. Would I as mafia point it out like this, or would I'd rather hide it?
The most plausible thing is that I'm am Town RB, not Mafia RB neither in case that town had also a Town RB as well as do not have a Town RB? Did I not consider anything?
@ Plots
First the bolded question is one that I already posed to you, and is still one that you as Town RB need to answer in depth. Why did you think Bara was scum and block him? You've posted town or null reads on him before and after N2, so what did he do to make you think you had better block him?
You also seem to suggest that Bara is potentially the GF here. Is that what you were thinking? You didn't like the green check on Bara so you figuered he was the Mafia GF and blocked him?
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EBWOP
I realize you say
Looking at this do you still think I am Mafia RB? only possible if Barakos is GF.
I'm just not following your thinking there very clearly. Sorry.
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@27nb
You stated before
On May 28 2015 13:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:
The one time I can interact with people, no one is around. lame.
I'm around
Got anything for me?
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@27nb How can you recommend me as a good cop check N1 when had me as town up untill D2 (which also happens to be the day I first put you on my scum list)?
Honestly I am starting to really like the world where NinjaBunnies the GF attempted to pocket on D1 to get more votes for he mislynches.
Looking at that post again she also recommended that Breske be checked even though she apperently townread him since D1. How was she planning on getting any information from that?
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～ Vote Count ～
plotspot (2) : Tictock (X), Barakos (X), disformation (X), Tictock, boxerfred
Sulfurus (2) : batsnacks, Barakos (X), sicklucker (X), disformation (X), plotspot
27ninjabunnies (1) : Tictock (X), sicklucker, Tictock (X)
no-lynch (0) : plotspot (X)
Not voting (4) : 27ninjabunnies, Barakos, disformation, Sulfurus
Currently, plotspot is set to be lynched!
The day phase will end at Friday, May 29 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), about 15.5 hours from this post.
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If you see any vote out of place, scream your head off and maybe someone will notice.
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On May 22 2015 07:00 cakepie wrote:
Reminder: Flavor is for fun only. Characters’ appearance (or lack thereof) in flavor text is not indicative of their presence/absence within the game, nor that of their corresponding roles.
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If plots is mafia it will become apperant when he doesn't die in the night and Bunnies is more scummy anyway.
##Vote: 27NinjaBunnies
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Germany358 Posts
Hi...
I'm at work atm and will read the thread and be able to drop by and respond/interact from time to time...
for now:
##vote Sulfurus
out of the three people that got votes on them the most reasonable. 2 mafia-rb seems silly, bunnies got a greencheck on her, so I'll go with this.
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So Town has about 17hours left to reach a conclusion for today.
The most important thing for Town to keep in mind: Scum needs Town to Mislynch 3 times to Win
Right now there are votes on 3 people
Sulfurus
27ninjabunnies
plotspot
At this point I can't imagine anyone holding onto a case on somebody not in that list. So Town needs to really think and consider, which of these 3 players is most likely scum?
While some speculation on setup is fine, we should avoid trying to assume too much. We have a solid clue to the setup, one Scum RB, and one Mason have been flipped. Then we have 3 more blue roles for town being claimed today; 2nd Mason, Town RB, and Cop. Focus on these claims. The balance of the setup is a secondary concern here.
Leaving my own Opinion like this, because I think what I said above is so much more important than my opinion.
+ Show Spoiler +Personally I am fine lynching either plotspot or 27nb today. Plotspot is my top choice because everything he has done today has caused confusion and his logic in suggesting people matches with scum goals. First I find his assertion that town has all 3 is odd. A setup like he suggests COULD be possible, but it doesn't really make sense when you break it down like Dis did here. Even considering this setup, it means that the cop checks are suspect due to the high likelyhood of GF on the mafia team. Yet plots reaches the same conclusion that Sul is scum regardless of the cop checks being possibly invalidated. Plots reads on Bara are important to his claim as Town RB. We also only have his word, and his post-morteum scum read on Rels to backup his first claim as RB. Neither of these hold up his claim on RB in my opinion. Thus I can only conclude that this is a fake claim. He is also consistently offering plans of action that involve 2 kills. He says, If Sulfurus flips green feel free to lynch me next, because obviously then I haven't got the game solved and wasted all your time. Do we have a deal? then he says Looking at this do you still think I am Mafia RB? only possible if Barakos is GF. He also only swaps to these tactics after his attempted, whatever the hell, on me fails and he can't push Sulf and I as a scum team. This type of thinking lines up with scum goals, trying to get a mislynch any way he can. 27nb had a full day phase of pressure to answer the questions and concerns people had about her. She showed up about 8 Hours before EoD and offered up BM as a better target. She has since stayed reclusive and not weighed in, not voted yet today. Her vote D1 was not on the wagon that got us one Scum RB, D2 her vote was to save her own skin. Now it looks like D3 she wants to wait till EoD again. 27nb is also doing the same thing as plots, offering no real plan of action or very well reasoned vote. She seems to be happy just randomly lynching her lowest 4 town reads. On May 28 2015 13:53 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People We are not lynching:
Ticktock
Bats
Barakos
MAybe SL?
Me
People we lynch
Everyone else.
GG Town wins Regardless of if they are a team or not. Plots and 27nb are Easily my top 2 scum. We should at least lynch one of them today and re-evaluate tomorrow. Sul just doesn't seem to care. I don't like it, he might be scum for it... but that was also the line of thought that lead to the BM lynch. I have better reasons to lynch either plots or 27nb today. I could be wrong about plots, honestly his stuff is like way over the top and draws so much attention to it. If he is scum the whole thing is pretty Yolo swag and is based on the idea that town would never lynch someone claiming a blue role. To me the notion of him being Town RB doesn't make much sense, it doesn't sound like a balanced setup for town to have Masons, Cop, and RB. Plots claim also looks pretty flimsy when you start poking at it. I really tried to poke at the guy to get good reasoning why he would have RB'd Bara, at the time of this post he has only explained it here. In the world where plots is town, I have no choice but to return my vote to 27nb. While I believe bats claim, if the setup is how plots claims then GF is def a possibility and the greencheck on bunnies is not confirmed.
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Ehh last post was supposed to read 12 hours, obv.
I wrote out my thoughts before I napped (wanted to watch GSL!). Was going to re-evaluate if anything new had been posted, but it's been a slow night again it looks like.
I'll be lurking a bit and keeping an eye on things. My vote is not final, but for now I'm fine letting it ride.
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On May 29 2015 16:49 Sulfurus wrote:
If plots is mafia it will become apperant when he doesn't die in the night and Bunnies is more scummy anyway.
##Vote: 27NinjaBunnies
I'm probably ok with this line of thinking. I'm still amazed at how little you choose to post when you are possibly getting lynched today...
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Actually I take that back, that is terrible thinking.
Mafia could easily target Bats tonight, or even myself.
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Germany358 Posts
Why are you working so hard on not lynching sulfurus?
Lynching plots would mean, lynching an confirmed rb on the off chance, there are 2 scum-rbs vs a single town-cop... sounds not convincing.
Lynching bunnies means lynching into a green-check on the 1/6-chance that there is a godfather between all the claimed vt and bunnies is the gf
Lynching sulfurus is a 2/4 scum, if you believe both greenchecks, 1/4 if you believe one of bunnies/me is the gf.
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Germany358 Posts
plots claim isn't even that unbelievable, given that his filter basically screams "confused town-newbie" and he has done that "i think i know something but i don't want to tell you right now" - crap all game long. Makes way more sense than 2scum-rb vs single cop.
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Germany358 Posts
On May 29 2015 20:14 Barakos wrote:
Why are you working so hard on not lynching sulfurus?
Lynching plots would mean, lynching an confirmed rb on the off chance, there are 2 scum-rbs vs a single town-cop... sounds not convincing.
Lynching bunnies means lynching into a green-check on the 1/6-chance that there is a godfather between all the claimed vt and bunnies is the gf
Lynching sulfurus is a 2/4 scum, if you believe both greenchecks, 1/4 if you believe one of bunnies/me is the gf.
what goes for sulfurus also goes for sl, disfo and bf, of course... but non of them has votes on them atm.
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Because all you guys can give me is math and 2 votes that didn't do much to sway the game in any direction.
I'm not saying I don't think the guy could be scum, but I just want good reasoning behind our lynch today.
I will give plots credit for at least try-harding today.
##Unvote
Ok, convince me without relying on setup and role stuff, that Sul should be my vote over 27nb.
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Germany358 Posts
without rolespeculation?
you don't lynch bunnies, because we got a greencheck on her.
Saying the greencheck isn't valid is rolespeculation.
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Germany358 Posts
at least this is the answer, if you meant by role-stuff the speculating and not the fact, that we got a claimed cop with two greenchecks, which is kinda hard to ignore.
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I mean without relying on Roles at all.
This game is Supposed to be about critical thinking and deception. Useing roles as a crutch means Mafia can abuse that to their advantage just as much as town can. GF role exist to counter Cop roles.
So yes, without relying on the greencheck. Hell forget I'm mason and make a case on me. I dont care at this point, I just want thought put into our Fing lynch today.
At least one of the players up for lynch today is town making life hard for the rest of town. BM was useless Town. I'm starting to think town deserves to lose this one.
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