EPTYour last post on me also makes barely sense...
So let us OMGUS at each other for a bit. :D
I am a bit annoyed though, since I don't see that helping town... but maybe I can look for scum in piece for a bit now.
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Your last post on me also makes barely sense... So let us OMGUS at each other for a bit. :D I am a bit annoyed though, since I don't see that helping town... but maybe I can look for scum in piece for a bit now. ##vote: boxerfred | ||
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in peace* :D | ||
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On May 30 2015 03:46 boxerfred wrote: By now I feel like we're tunneling each other and trying to prove each other being a scum member pretty hard. Which is fun and like really destructive. By now I can see people thinking that we're both scum. Noone would say that we're on the same team by now. I feel like a mad man by now. *sigh* was halfway through writing a case on you. :p Sulfurus and 27ninjabunnies still look worse than you. So I should probably make up my mind which of these two I want to lynch. | ||
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On May 30 2015 04:18 batsnacks wrote: sulfur is scummier but he's new and this could just be how he plays. I have played a bunch of games with bunnies and this is not how she usually plays town. Yeah, it is really maddening. bunnies looks bad but has that green check. Sulfurus looked okay D1 and a few posts today. | ||
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If there is a GF and the 3 blues are legit bunnies is still 5/6 town. That is like 83,33%. Or did I miss something? | ||
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On May 30 2015 04:54 batsnacks wrote: Scott posted more words about sulfur d1 than he did about anyone else. Is mafia roleblocker Scott really going to spend most of his words d1 talking about his scum mate? Hmmmm Super glad to see that I am not the only one having trouble with this.  btw.. ##unvote Not going to waste my vote. | ||
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On May 30 2015 05:00 batsnacks wrote: Look at how Scott is defending sulfur here from the big bad BM. I feel like newbie mafia Scott would gravitate toward defending townies over defending his scum mates. Wouldn't defending teammates too much be a common scum mistake? | ||
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On May 30 2015 05:02 batsnacks wrote: disfo are you scum bro? No, but why are you asking all of a sudden? | ||
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On May 30 2015 05:04 batsnacks wrote: The newbie mafia mindset feels like it would be: "BM is bullying this townie. I will put scum on BM since bullying townies is scummy!" Hm. Opportunity for easy town creds, I see. | ||
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Also good to see if there is the opportunity to push a misslynch, I guess. Though that would be probably to early in the game. | ||
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On May 22 2015 11:43 27ninjabunnies wrote: Sulfurus top town newbie read. Not lynching for entire game. Or maybe atleast 2 days She had this super hard town read on Sulfurus after his good first post. But now is voting him to save her ass. | ||
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Sulfurus ignored it for a very long time and only answered, when I kept nagging him. Though that case wasn't very strong. 27ninjabunnies answered right away and made a case on me about some association read about BF+Me. Took her very long to reconsider, even after BF and I went at each other N1. | ||
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Sulfurus: + Show Spoiler + On May 29 2015 01:12 Sulfurus wrote: Ok so first off I see a couple of votes on Bunnies and I do very much agree that she has been scummy however remember that with no cop check there is 25%(1/8) of any one person being mafia excluding yourself but since there is only one mafia among the 7 possible green checks the cop check gives her a 14% to be mafia; that is an 11% difference so please don't dismiss the check. Which leads into my next point as you can read here and here not only do I believe Barakos is town, I think of him as my top town as in I won't even consider him being GF until potential lylo. On May 29 2015 12:38 Sulfurus wrote: @27nb How can you recommend me as a good cop check N1 when had me as town up untill D2 (which also happens to be the day I first put you on my scum list)? Honestly I am starting to really like the world where NinjaBunnies the GF attempted to pocket on D1 to get more votes for he mislynches. Looking at that post again she also recommended that Breske be checked even though she apperently townread him since D1. How was she planning on getting any information from that? On May 29 2015 16:49 Sulfurus wrote: If plots is mafia it will become apperant when he doesn't die in the night and Bunnies is more scummy anyway. ##Vote: 27NinjaBunnies 27ninjabunnies: + Show Spoiler + On May 29 2015 11:01 27ninjabunnies wrote: So I like boxerfred more than Sulfurus The only thing I have on sulfurus as townie was the day 1 response to me, other than that, I haven't been impressed. Boxer has atleast talked, pushed reads, made cases evven if they werent right. He seems to come from a townier perspective than Sulfurus does. Id lynch dis over SL, but toher than my reasoning on day 1 i dont really have anything as why. I'm going to do some filter diving later on tonight. Hold me to it this time. I swear it will get done. On May 29 2015 22:55 27ninjabunnies wrote: So I actually Wa,t to lynch Sulfurus. I filter dived, and when I reached the surface I came back up with nothing. Sulf later play has lacked highly. The day 1 was ok, but not enough for a town read. ##Vote:Sulfurus I'm posti,g from my,phone but I can't really quote anything atm. On May 30 2015 02:06 27ninjabunnies wrote: Lol, i dont care about the scott flip. Scott did nthing to help us find the other two mafia. We have no reads based on that except for voting and probably high bussing. Im going off of what i know. How is that not original? I was reading Sulfurus town day 1. Many people have been calling me scummy for this, but i am reevaluating my read. I gave what I have already. I said we dont lynch any of the claimed roles, and we dont lynch the greenchecks. The greencheck on the other person that was checked could very well be real, and i know the greencheck on me is real because i am town. By comparing these two: Sulfurus asks her a really good question. She doesn't answer that. Meanwhile 27ninjabunnies kinda sheeps the general points everyone raises about Sulfurus. And I kinda have a problem that she went from "best newbie ever" to "Day 1 was okay". Although she says that she needs to reevaluate him D2, so this kinda fits in her read progression. | ||
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errr I messed something up here, didn't mean to do that vote -.- ##unvote | ||
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On May 30 2015 05:27 disformation wrote: Hmm... looking at Sulfurus and 27ninjabunnies reasons to vote each other: Sulfurus: + Show Spoiler + On May 29 2015 01:12 Sulfurus wrote: Ok so first off I see a couple of votes on Bunnies and I do very much agree that she has been scummy however remember that with no cop check there is 25%(1/8) of any one person being mafia excluding yourself but since there is only one mafia among the 7 possible green checks the cop check gives her a 14% to be mafia; that is an 11% difference so please don't dismiss the check. Which leads into my next point as you can read here and here not only do I believe Barakos is town, I think of him as my top town as in I won't even consider him being GF until potential lylo. On May 29 2015 12:38 Sulfurus wrote: @27nb How can you recommend me as a good cop check N1 when had me as town up untill D2 (which also happens to be the day I first put you on my scum list)? Honestly I am starting to really like the world where NinjaBunnies the GF attempted to pocket on D1 to get more votes for he mislynches. Looking at that post again she also recommended that Breske be checked even though she apperently townread him since D1. How was she planning on getting any information from that? On May 29 2015 16:49 Sulfurus wrote: If plots is mafia it will become apperant when he doesn't die in the night and Bunnies is more scummy anyway. ##Vote: 27NinjaBunnies 27ninjabunnies: + Show Spoiler + On May 29 2015 11:01 27ninjabunnies wrote: So I like boxerfred more than Sulfurus The only thing I have on sulfurus as townie was the day 1 response to me, other than that, I haven't been impressed. Boxer has atleast talked, pushed reads, made cases evven if they werent right. He seems to come from a townier perspective than Sulfurus does. Id lynch dis over SL, but toher than my reasoning on day 1 i dont really have anything as why. I'm going to do some filter diving later on tonight. Hold me to it this time. I swear it will get done. On May 29 2015 22:55 27ninjabunnies wrote: So I actually Wa,t to lynch Sulfurus. I filter dived, and when I reached the surface I came back up with nothing. Sulf later play has lacked highly. The day 1 was ok, but not enough for a town read. ##Vote:Sulfurus I'm posti,g from my,phone but I can't really quote anything atm. On May 30 2015 02:06 27ninjabunnies wrote: Lol, i dont care about the scott flip. Scott did nthing to help us find the other two mafia. We have no reads based on that except for voting and probably high bussing. Im going off of what i know. How is that not original? I was reading Sulfurus town day 1. Many people have been calling me scummy for this, but i am reevaluating my read. I gave what I have already. I said we dont lynch any of the claimed roles, and we dont lynch the greenchecks. The greencheck on the other person that was checked could very well be real, and i know the greencheck on me is real because i am town. By comparing these two: Sulfurus asks her a really good question. She doesn't answer that. Meanwhile 27ninjabunnies kinda sheeps the general points everyone raises about Sulfurus. And I kinda have a problem that she went from "best newbie ever" to "Day 1 was okay". Although she says that she needs to reevaluate him D2, so this kinda fits in her read progression. After rereading the conclusion: 27ninjabunnies looks straight up more scummy her. I hesitated voting her because the math suggests this might be a bad idea. Thought about it for a second and reconsidered. How is lynching the scummiest person around a bad idea? ##vote 27ninjabunnies This time for real and I want to be really amazed before I unvote this time. sry for waffling around this much town. | ||
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27ninjabunnies looks straight up more scummy heree. Also inb4 somebody finds something and I start to waffle again. | ||
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On May 30 2015 05:45 sicklucker wrote: can someone bring up the quote where bunnies asks breske to be checked? About to vote sulp i think Right away good sir. On May 24 2015 11:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Good cop checks/vig shots Dis BF Sulf(rather cop check) And Breshke (Cop check) What do we think of BM as a vig shot? | ||
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On May 30 2015 05:49 sicklucker wrote: why are neither bunnies or sulp putting up any sort of defense tho? bunnies already had a bit of a "on the verge of giving up" feeling earlier, too. Something which made me waffle. On May 30 2015 02:11 27ninjabunnies wrote: Lol, I care. It's just been a long week. Haha, and I shouldn't have /in on two games. Keeping up with both is super tough. | ||
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Sry misread. You asked why noone is defending them. Instead "why aren't they defending themselves harder". ticktoc made a defensive case for Sulfurus: On May 28 2015 15:13 Tictock wrote: Suls filter is short, and there's only been 2 votes. Time to do some analysis/defending! Sul opens with his response to SL's QT stuff and 27nb's, immediately pushes Breshke for his pressure on SL. + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 10:24 Sulfurus wrote: @sicklucker is it not normal for the mafia QT to be open during pregame b/c if it is you shouldn't have made that dumbtell also ##Vote: Breshke On May 22 2015 11:34 Sulfurus wrote: @NinjaBunnies the most important point in this game so far is when Breshke 1st stared pushing on Sicklucker since the conflict between the two has defined the entire game. Speaking of that, Breshke is my top scum since he continuously pushes against Sicklucker with very bad reasoning (#159 he complains that he has disappeared and hasn't thought critically only 3 hours into the game) I also scum read Murray due to his weak and untrue accusation against Dis in post #191 which made me think Sick is town since he tried Bandwagoning on him but he has since rescinded his vote. Calls out SL for contradicting himself a little + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 11:39 Sulfurus wrote: @sicklucker I think you are executing this rxn test very poorly since you just congratulated me on having "the best post in the thread" which you probably wouldn't do to some1 you have a red on. Swaps vote from Bre to BM. Gives good reasons why he is swapping. + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 13:07 Sulfurus wrote: Unvote Breshke ##Vote: Bill Murray I am actually astonished at how Murray can make so many posts with out providing anything of value on top of the fact that he has pushed every one of his agenda's in a scummy manner. In posts 231 - 235 Breshke defends himself and Plotspot in a towny way and reading back Sicklucker is less towny than I thought so Breshke is no longer my top mafia. Gives more of a townread on Bre, then unvotes BM. His reasons here seem fairly poor + Show Spoiler + On May 23 2015 07:19 Sulfurus wrote: Breshke is definitely more town than I thought, he defended plotspot (I don't care how he did it just that he did at all) and I've realized that his tunnel on SL is pro-town since he got he put pressure on someone who is a hard read. I completely misunderstood what this post meant I thought it was BM saying the Dis hadn't done anything this game. That combined with what SL said about him being mislynch bait means that I'll rescind my vote off of him. ##Unvote Says he is unsure why 27nb is defending him, gives a super weak tonwread on me then claims Bara as top town. In fact he likes Bara's points about Bats opening so much he votes Bats. + Show Spoiler + On May 24 2015 06:04 Sulfurus wrote: I admit even I am confused as to why NinjaBunnies is defending me so hard; right now the only vote on her is Tictock (someone who I have had a townread on longer then anyone else) but she is definitely someone who needs to be looked at later. For me the the person with the most useful reads and my top town is Barakos; he was the one who helped me townread Breshke and scumread Disformation with this post, he has shown a healthy suspicion of NinjaBunnies, and he influenced me to un-vote BM, along with SL, with his coinflip argument (for the record I still think SL is town). My favorite Barakos post so far is this one right here especially the Batsnacks part which shows how scummy he truly is (Bat's overly defensive reactions in posts 538 & 539 don't help his case either) so while he won't get lynched today I'll definitely be pushing for his death tomorrow. ##Vote: Batsnacks Further explains about his vote on Bats + Show Spoiler + On May 24 2015 06:26 Sulfurus wrote: @Tictock I think the Bats post you quoted is just straight up wrong. He literally cherry picked quotes to paint himself as a productive member of town when in reality it was people like Breshke and yourself who got the conversation started. And the reason I like Berakos's post so much is that it showed that Bat really didn't care about making reads off of his I-ching post like he said he would. On May 24 2015 06:41 Sulfurus wrote: This is pretty much a textbook example of a humblebrag he is pretending to self-deprecate his contributions when in reality he is saying his actions are towny. Gives thoughts about Vig shooting SL being better than cop checking + Show Spoiler + On May 24 2015 14:46 Sulfurus wrote: I predict that if cop receives a town check on SL people will accuse him of being GF/SK and lynch him anyway, so cop should not check him. A vigi shot on him is fine since the only way town doesn't kill him is if he claims a role. Clarifies his stance on BM to Dis, he's saying BM is mislynch bait here... Also defends SL. + Show Spoiler + On May 25 2015 14:14 Sulfurus wrote: Whoops I believe that should be a link to post 264 IIRC your 'case' against me is that I called Bill Murray 'mislynch bait' which came off as TMI to you. TBH I don't actually know if Bill is town or not but I thought that term sounded better then 'lynch bait' since bait is usually a kind of trap you don't want to get caught in (think fishing) but we want to lynch mafia not avoid it (hopefully that makes sense). As for Sicklucker I feel he has been so busy defending himself that he hasn't been able to give any useful reads and Rels gave a very good accusation of him here so I don't think I will bother defending and I may even vote on him if it comes down to it. @Bill Murray I don't quite understand why you rescinded your vote off of SL. Can you please explain? Gives us a PoE list and votes SL + Show Spoiler + On May 26 2015 13:29 Sulfurus wrote: As of this moment my lynches are Sicklucker Batsnacks 27NinjaBunnies Bill Murray BoxerFred in that order I admit it's kinda weird that 3 of those names voted for confirmed mafia but considering how Scott was playing the idea of a bus isn't too far-fetched. ##Vote: Sicklucker Responds to a couple of questions from me, reminds me of his stance on Bats and disagrees with my stance on plots + Show Spoiler + On May 26 2015 13:52 Sulfurus wrote: @TicTock I actually already talked about Bats yesterday. It's mostly based off of what Barakos said and I think his points still stand. On May 26 2015 18:15 Sulfurus wrote: I town read Plots for the simple reason that he scumread Rels after he died. Like what incentive does he have to do that as mafia? There is no mislynch he can push there and I don't think he realized I would town read him for that. Even if that was the purpose he would have tried to 'get credit' for it at some point instead of letting people forget about that read. In general Plot's demeanor this game has been to try get information into the hands of town instead of trying to push any kind of malicious agenda. Pressures Bats to explain his switch to BM (i'd like to know this as well) + Show Spoiler + On May 27 2015 14:04 Sulfurus wrote: @Batsnacks please go in depth on why you changed your vote to Bill Murray. Agrees BF is speculating too much about roles, but says he is likely town. + Show Spoiler + On May 28 2015 06:38 Sulfurus wrote: I agree that BoxerFred should stop talking about roles since it only helps mafia but all his specualtion seems really genuine and I think if he was mafia he would save that stuff for their QT. Also I think he is extremely towny for going against the grain and voting Bunnies yesterday. Thinks it's likely bunnies is trying to pocket him + Show Spoiler + On May 28 2015 06:49 Sulfurus wrote: Also I agree with the logic that Bunnies was trying to pocket me because I am new only to change her read when she realized that wouldn't work. There's also his posts asking Bats why he is suddenly the #1 target and his pointing out that Bunnies could be potential GF, these were so recent I'm not bothering quoting. The Votes: Day 1 Sul left his vote on Bats. It's a throwaway vote but it is in line with his reads all game. Day 2 Again left his vote on SL. Sul's votes dont look great, but he's not around often to change his vote and he gives decent reasoning why he is voting as he does. His vote on SL is weak, but he never gave much indication he'd be willing to vote either bunnies or BM so it makes sense. To me the biggest point here is Sul calling out BM as mislynch bait, scum would not point out someone as a potential mislynch bait. I'm also not seeing anything here that indicates scum behavior. Given all this, you guys had better give some damed good reasons why Sul is scum. To me 27nb is still the clear target as nothing has actually cleared her of any of the reasons she was being lynched D2. Green check when there is a possibility of GF is not enough. | ||
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On May 30 2015 06:09 sicklucker wrote: Like im kiliing them in any order unless boxer has the scummiest filter of all time. Whatever Was digging into him a bit earlier, but stopped that because I kinda found myself looking too hard to find mafia. notes: boxerfred: D1
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