EPTNoir Mini Mafia: Chapter 3
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I think this is a good vote. | ||
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I was on my phone and reading. I also think rsoultin is town. | ||
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It's probably some shitty tone read. | ||
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On April 22 2015 05:17 rsoultin wrote: -pokes- your tonereads are pretty good. have you figured out what it was yet? I have read like 2 pages of this game | ||
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WoS, if you promise not to post for the next 26 hours I'll tell the thread why I think you're mafia. That would also solve the problem of me having to argue my read with which seems like a fuckload of effort and I'm having a massive case of the cba. | ||
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He doesn't want me to explain to the thread why he is  | ||
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On April 21 2015 09:52 WaveofShadow wrote: Dunno wtf yamato is doing, Artanis probably town, breshke with the safe vote could be scum Gg no re The bolded sounds like a mafia comment. Why is he even mentioning it if he doesn't know? Also the entire tone of the post just sounds like mafia to me. Also, he scumreads breshke here for a "safe vote", then when he understands the rules, something magical happens: On April 21 2015 11:06 WaveofShadow wrote: Extra scumpoints for being all concerned and shot over the only person in the game to scumread him. ##vote: Breshke I'm back from Draft night and I'm super fucking pissed 'cause I misplayed in the absolute stupidest way possible, cost myself a match and 2 packs, so it's time to take it out on scum. On April 21 2015 11:47 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh what the fuck? WOw I missed that completely. That's really odd. EVery IML game I've played has actually been IML gotta rethink Breshke then. Right, so the narrative here is that somehow if the game is actually properly IML, then Breshke's vote is "safe" and therefore kind of scummy. Whereas now that WoS has realized that it's only a "check-in IML" type of game, the vote is no longer scummy, so I must assume the vote is thus no longer "safe". However, unlike WoS I would actually think the vote is actually MORE safe given the 24 hour check in. He cannot be accused of bringing the vote to L-2 because no such thing exists, he can unvote at any time. So what I get from this is WoS just used some bullshit reason to back off of breshke. Thus he is mafia. | ||
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On April 22 2015 21:12 WaveofShadow wrote: That's your ironclad reasoning palmar? Calling me scum for shit I've already explained in thread and saying 'I don't know what yamato is doing?' Gj Yeah it pretty much is! And thanks | ||
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On April 22 2015 21:18 Breshke wrote: Palmar you are obviously ignoring the context though. From what I understand the thrid vote in IML can be seen as safe for scum as they vote on a misslynch but arnt the creator of the push nor one of the hammers. Therefore one could say that scum might join a wagon at this time to blend into town while still getting the misslynch they need. So while WoS said the vote was safe he ment it was safe way for scum to try and secure a misslynch. Yes a third vote in this type of instant misslynch is even safer but in context it doesn't move towards scums goal of getting a misslynch as a push that early is not likely to be sustained over a 24 hour period. So yes while you are strictly right that the vote was infact safer it can't be seen as pushing for a misslynch as much. I don't even care about the context. He did something because of X Then it turns out X was even more right than he initially thought So he retracts because of X This makes no logical sense, thus he must be mafia. To be precises. He retracted NOT because of this new information he had gained. He retracted BECAUSE HE WANTED TO RETRACT and used this new information as an excuse to do so. | ||
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On April 22 2015 23:32 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah palmar that's blatantly untrue, you're just as bad as BH inventing your own narrative for why I did what I did. Early votes in what barely amounts to an IML game aren't as indicative as those when every cote counts all the time. 'safety' isn't a factor when the votes 2h into a game generally don't mean shit. If safety isn't a factor why did you say breshke could be mafia for a safe vote? Also don't worry about it. These morons will never lynch you because reasons. | ||
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Sorta townie: Trfel rsoultin Maybe townie artanis yamato breshke Not read a single post: Damdred BH Mafia WoS | ||
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On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote: lol wtf are you talking about? Now you're just putting words in my mouth. Of course I said safety is a factor, IF IT'S IML, OR the lynch is about to go down with some urgency. Breshke absolutely could have been mafia for a 'safe' vote in an IML game where I could have literally been lynched if any two other people decided to derp for shits and giggles. I've seen it happen. Safety is NOT a factor 2h into this game. How many votes are taken seriously 2h into a standard game? oh I get what you're saying. You're still mafia. | ||
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On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote: That's already what you're doing, your 'case' is shit and I'm not wasting any more time on you. If you feel like actually playing the game then you're welcome to join us. I am playing the game. Please stop antagonizing me it's really annoying. | ||
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I am not antagonizing you, I think you're mafia. During the time that I've been trying to get you lynched you haven't even pretended to care about my alignment in the slightest, instead choosing to attack me personally or just calling everything I'm doing shit. This makes you mafia. | ||
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On April 22 2015 08:25 WaveofShadow wrote: You want someone to pressure into playing? There's your perfect example. ##vote:palmar I fucking hate this. Even if I lose a million games because people keep playing like him I still refuse to condone it. On April 22 2015 21:12 WaveofShadow wrote: That's your ironclad reasoning palmar? Calling me scum for shit I've already explained in thread and saying 'I don't know what yamato is doing?' Gj Artanis any thoughts on BH at all? Did you read what I wrote? On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote: That's already what you're doing, your 'case' is shit and I'm not wasting any more time on you. If you feel like actually playing the game then you're welcome to join us. | ||
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Whatever, we'll see. Maybe people will join me. That'd be rad. It's not like I'm always wrong on day 1. | ||
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On April 23 2015 00:38 WaveofShadow wrote: You've barely done anything, and what little you have done has been shit. If you call popping into the thread every 12h screaming 'wave is mafia guise' playing the game then by all means, continue as you've stated here. As far as your alignment goes, I've already stated you're probably town for being like this specifically but I haven't ever been particularly good at reading you with meta or without. In any case, as terribly as you're playing there are people scummier than you thus far despite your inclination to do nothing this game other than yell at everyone how scum I am, so don't worry. Who's mafia then? | ||
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On April 23 2015 00:40 WaveofShadow wrote: I don't think I'm being a dick in the slightest. I haven't attacked you personally, I've attacked your play. There are how many other people in this game Palmar? Even IF I'm scum, that doesn't solve the game, and there's stuff to be done, but you're stuck tunneling on me here, not contributing to any other conversation and not finding other scum. How is that good play exactly? I will retract my statements about your afking/barely playing if you actually show you're capable of doing something mroe but so far I don't see it. It's good play because you're mafia | ||
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On April 23 2015 00:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Right now I have BH and maybe Trfel. Who's second scum Palmar? I have no idea, it's not like I've read the game. | ||
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But tbh, I don't particularly care, you can lynch him if you want to. | ||
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That means if we mislynch today we're at 5v2 and 4v2 with a death night 2. That means day 3 will be mylo. So, whatever blue role made this happen today should claim. Expained while in spoiler: + Show Spoiler + There is a chance mafia held their shot here (if they even can do that). If they did, all they have to do in mylo tomorrow is to claim doctor and target to get out of a mylo mislynch free, of course they will be counterclaimed but it's still... meh. Like if the real blue role is a cop and mafia claims doc with a save on someone likely on day 3, who do you think we'll believe? I really think the correct play here is to claim, especially if it's a soft confirm (doc/roleblocker). | ||
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On April 24 2015 09:02 Trfel wrote: Palmar, any thoughts on the game? At the moment mostly setup speculative. Like I'm hoping we get two free clears out of this and thus we could even fucking RNG and still have a 50% shot of hitting mafia. | ||
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On April 24 2015 09:09 WaveofShadow wrote: So D3 we no lynch if it gets to that point. I _think_ that doesn't matter. Because we could still not lynch two people so we'd be lynching between claims. | ||
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On April 24 2015 09:11 rsoultin wrote: lol the first thought that went through my head was... the fuck? we can't be that wrong about everything that scum would rather no-shoot >< blah now i have to reread oooor apparently can kill two of us the next night -_- if they no-shoot lovely Where does it say that? | ||
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So I'm bad sorry. Mafia absolutely held their shot. They always do when this option is available. ALWAYS. | ||
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On April 24 2015 09:20 Breshke wrote: I don't really get that. Like if there is a detective role they are just letting them get a free check. By not killing anyone they ensure our Pr doesn't die and if we have a saving role using two KP in one night feels like it increases the chances that they will get a save. Does anyone have any conclusions from BH flipping town because i got none currently 20% chance to hit a detective role mafia doesn't know is in the game is so shitty that they'd never take it. If mafia shoots it's to shoot a townie they want to get rid of, or medic dodging. But that also potentially gives town information. It's just easily the best play to hold the shot and leave town in the dark. The first indication of what mafia wants to do will be given in lylo (or mylo) Anyway, I'm going to sleep. I have an idea or two on what I want to do today but I want to read more first. I was lazy during the night and didn't really read much at all. | ||
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On April 24 2015 09:32 WaveofShadow wrote: I am completely fine with this, even though I tend to get antsy after the first 24. I should let everyone know btw that as of Monday my activity falls off extremely sharply, so assuming the game isn't done by then, yeah. We'll lynch you for lurking | ||
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On April 24 2015 15:39 Breshke wrote: Palmar what made you post this. What made me your number one town. I did not post this. | ||
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I'm torn on the rest of you people. And WoS is mafia. | ||
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Yammy hardly even acknowledged my case on WaveOfShadow, never really pushed the idea he might be scum and never cleared it either. here, take a look at all the suspicion yammy threw at wos. I'll bold some hard accusations of things that if we believe yamato believes in, should make him super suspicious of Wave. On April 21 2015 11:43 yamato77 wrote: "I don't use meta" is a nice and convenient excuse to avoid giving a legitimate read on me at this stage in the game. Still, the fact remains, you said I could do this as mafia, what basis do you have to make that statement, exactly? On April 21 2015 11:45 yamato77 wrote: Because it's a statement with no basis. "I could see Yamato doing this as either alignment" is tantamount to saying "I could see Yamato doing this as mafia." Why do you think that's the case, precisely, if you aren't using meta? Why mention me by name at all if you're just going to make some sort of puffball generalized statement? Very strange, Wave. Then Yamato made this post here: On April 22 2015 06:13 yamato77 wrote: well, right now you're bitching when there are only 2 votes on you granted, you've been under pressure the whole game so far, but so what? If you're town you can deal with it and produce convincing reads. If you're mafia we just lynch you. Which seems to indicate he's still interested in lynching Wave, but what happens after that? Nothing. Look at this picture of yamato's filter where I'm looking for the word "wave" ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/7tNWqTd) After all this suspicion he has NOTHING to follow up on it and idly parks his vote basically on artanis for what was a bullshit reason. Yamato is mafia. It's highly likely as per my case yesterday that WoS is too. I will support a lynch today on either of them and no one else. See you later it's weekend and I'm turning 30 | ||
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##vote yamato The whole point is his words don't fit his actions. I feel his accusation against artanis (the excuse to not do anything thing) was much, much weaker than his accusations against wave, yet that's where his vote ended up. | ||
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On April 25 2015 01:42 Damdred wrote: I'll reread there interactions but I don't think it looks mafiaxmafia. I thought Yamato looked good early decent activity ok content, waves picked up later Half of what Yamato did early was argue with wos only to never follow it up | ||
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On April 25 2015 01:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also, Palmar, are you just going to stop evaluating other people because you think you've found the two scum? Are you that certain in your reads? Yeah pretty much | ||
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On April 25 2015 03:07 WaveofShadow wrote: I truly don't understand this. I've dismantled your weak case on me and you haven't brought anything new since, and now you're adding to it a horrible preflip association read? Thanks for playing Palmar. Actually if you bothered to read my case on Yamato you'd see nothing in there hinges on you being mafia. If I'm wrong about you the way Yamato treated his read/suspicion on you is still extremely weird. you shouldn't complain about me not playing when you don't even read things before complaining about them. | ||
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On April 25 2015 02:12 Damdred wrote: Palmar is specific they are both scum together I disagree that they can be scum together. And then explained why I think town No I'm not. I could be wrong on one, or both, or whatever. | ||
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Guys, we should probably lynch him anyway, he's shown no willingness to respond to anything despite multiple people bringing up things against him. Also Damdred is super shit this game. | ||
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No way on WoS. | ||
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Explain to me where I'm wrong about wave. Even if we ignore the case that I brought up against him, his general attitude has basically been terrible throughout the game. Like he's being a dick and I don't know why, which makes me think he's mafia. | ||
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I still think my case on yamato is very valid (although I haven't seen his response or anything). So for now I'm leaving my vote there as I think it's the right play to lynch him. | ||
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##unvote ##vote waveofshadow I think it's less likely that Yamato is mafia now so that kinda puts artanis back on the table | ||
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I would prefer WoS of all the possible lynches. Does anyone believe WoS has been actively trying to solve the game today? | ||
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On April 27 2015 07:24 WaveofShadow wrote: And where do you get 'stay alive-y' from Palmar? He's been coming in and posting at pretty random times and none of i is when he's under suspicion or anything, and you don't feel as though he has an agenda even though he's pushed me (and to a lesser extent yamato) nonstop? I don't udnerstand though how Palmar immediately townreads yamato just because of his few posts last night tbh I don't townread him. I just think it's less likely he's mafia than you, hence I moved my vote. | ||
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I am fairly certain he is mafia. | ||
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On April 28 2015 07:20 Damdred wrote: we have to consolidate. Honestly, i'm kind of feeling like Art has been towny this day to a certain extent ##Unvote Which leaves this weird zone of Breshke/Palmar/Wave. -_- Then lynch wave and lynch me if I'm wrong. | ||
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Even mafia should be agreeing with me because I'm going to take all the blame if he flips town, and if he flips scum it's a great bus opportunity. Wave is mafia. He was born mafia and will always be mafia. | ||
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This game is so boring because people don't do what I want them to do yet no one is trying to lynch me. | ||
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If I'm right, look at artanis first, then yamato and damdred. If'm wrong, same three people. Also in that case, sorry. If I'm right, you all suck. | ||
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On April 29 2015 08:47 rsoultin wrote: lol my give a shits i wish i could find them palmar if we kill wave will you actually pick up cause that's what i'm hoping? Of course, unless I get shot or something. The point is once I find my lynches I tend to stick with them quite hard (look at GB last game). | ||
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#2 Artanis is mafia #3 if you guys have a hard-on for being awful you can lynch me first ##vote artanis | ||
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On April 30 2015 20:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also, Palmar, if you could explain why I'm mafia at some point in this game that'd be dandy. You did promise you'd start to play after we flipped Wave. Only if I was wrong | ||
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On April 30 2015 21:58 rsoultin wrote: o.0 breeeesh i was just about to say you were looking better today and drop my vote on palmar ##vote Palmar which i think i'm gonna do anyway, unless there's a good reason i won't be home by deadline, but lol wth is that last bit? >< I hope you're mafia because I don't want to live in a world where you're so terrible. But you probably are. Artanis is mafia because he's the only person here who isn't dumb enough to actually think this day is going as it should. | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote: The day isn't going as it should because [no reason], so we should end it early [because no good reason]. That makes perfect sense. Thanks, Palmar. No problem. Take it as a compliment. I don't think you're this awful as town. On April 22 2015 19:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Wave commented on all the people that voted for him. I don't see anything wrong with that. As for the Breshke vote thing, it's odd but not really scummy at all. He could've gone any which way on Breshke and make up any reason once he found that out. Why would he have a change of heart and go from scumreading to townreading Breshke as mafia? I even mentioned at the time that you were being a complete pleb by just considering things on the surface instead of actually buying into the rock fucking solid case I presented on WoS On April 22 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote: The bolded sounds like a mafia comment. Why is he even mentioning it if he doesn't know? Also the entire tone of the post just sounds like mafia to me. Also, he scumreads breshke here for a "safe vote", then when he understands the rules, something magical happens: Right, so the narrative here is that somehow if the game is actually properly IML, then Breshke's vote is "safe" and therefore kind of scummy. Whereas now that WoS has realized that it's only a "check-in IML" type of game, the vote is no longer scummy, so I must assume the vote is thus no longer "safe". However, unlike WoS I would actually think the vote is actually MORE safe given the 24 hour check in. He cannot be accused of bringing the vote to L-2 because no such thing exists, he can unvote at any time. So what I get from this is WoS just used some bullshit reason to back off of breshke. Thus he is mafia. On April 22 2015 23:28 Palmar wrote: I don't even care about the context. He did something because of X Then it turns out X was even more right than he initially thought So he retracts because of X This makes no logical sense, thus he must be mafia. To be precises. He retracted NOT because of this new information he had gained. He retracted BECAUSE HE WANTED TO RETRACT and used this new information as an excuse to do so. Everyone ignored me because everyone is bad. No one actually reads cases anymore because the only way to get shit done is just to be louder than everyone else. The same fucking thing happened with my day 1 case on GB last game. Of course I'm right, I'm not close to being the best player on TL, there's dozens of people better than me at this, but almost no one has the same ability to read day 1 and find conclusions from it. That's my primary skill in mafia. Sure, i might be going full palmar and just spite lynching you for being terrible, but at least I feel okay about that. People should fucking listen when I take the time to write cases on day 1. But don't mind me. It's clear that the guy who made a well supported insightful case on mafia day 1, then tunneled that thing throughout the entire game is mafia. You guys should definitely lynch me because there's no way I'm not as awful as all of yall who refused to vote WoS on day 1 so clearly I had TMI, because no one is actually not awful at mafia. | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:13 rsoultin wrote: have to agree with art o.0 that makes no sense palmar I don't care. I only have a limited tolerance for stupidity and I've seen too much of it lately. | ||
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Artanis is mafia for defending WoS when there was no reason to do so. I know half of you morons defended him too, but you're all dumb. Artanis is less dumb. Slightly. Artanis is mafia for trying to pretend like he was some sort of a town hero that got WoS lynched. Saying Trfel and him were to thank for it. | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Being right doesn't mean those were the things that made him mafia. In the end, what made him mafia was that he was just commenting on things and didn't actually try to hunt for scum. I'm pretty sure you don't actually think I'm mafia and you're just mad. Stop getting mad and figure out the game. I don't actually think you'd be this much of a dick as mafia so it's between Breshke and Yamato. I'm currently edging towards Breshke for really not thinking about the game critically and in his evaluation on me he didn't really come to a strong conclusion yet still ignored large parts of the game. No. He was mafia because of the things I said. I don't tunnel shit for 2 days unless I'm sure. And I have enough of a track record for day 1 to be allowed to be fucking sure when I am. | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:23 rsoultin wrote: lol palmar, you've bussed teammates before, i don't think anyone's saying you're incapable of finding scum day 1 xP that would be ludicrous i find it kinda difficult to believe the entirety of your scumread is based on you think artanis should have sheeped you though xP I'm lynching artanis for being worse than I expect him to be. You are exactly as bad as I expect you to be, so you're probably town. Same with Broski and these other people. | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:23 rsoultin wrote: lol palmar, you've bussed teammates before, i don't think anyone's saying you're incapable of finding scum day 1 xP that would be ludicrous i find it kinda difficult to believe the entirety of your scumread is based on you think artanis should have sheeped you though xP This is why you're bad and you won't be better until you recognize this flaw. You're looking at the what when you should be looking at the how. It's completely irrelevant whether or not I have bused teammates before. I've played about a million games of mafia and I've probably pulled just about any strategy under the sun out at some point. If you want to actually try to be less shit, you need to start looking at each individual case and check it against what you think. I have bused teammates and I have been right on day 1. So in the end your approach results in absolutely no fucking conclusion. So... how do you do this? You look at how I did it. Go read my case on WoS, go read my interactions with him and think to yourself "Do I believe Palmar genuinely believes the things he's saying?". Am I being insightful or am I using some shitty generic scumtells to build my case. Am I explaining why I think what I think in a manner that looks like these are genuine thoughts and not fabricated bullshit on a teammate? Go forth and try. You'll probably fail, but it's better to have tried and failed but not to have tried at all. | ||
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I don't have a 100% hit rate in those things? What a shocker. | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:27 rsoultin wrote: i could see yamato actually but i dunnae that exchange at the beginning of the game looks hella weird as scum on scum not impossible but weird do you disagree? Read my case. I don't back and forth with trash tier. | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:32 rsoultin wrote: i'm out btw no palmar i'm not lynching today unless i have time before EoD to review everything might i suggest you do a little more work than just who is meeting your expectations? xP No. I have a blueprint to win the game. And if you guys follow it, we win. step 1: lynch Artanis. step 2: lynch yamato Feel free to flip them around. | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:33 rsoultin wrote: i'm not interested in arguing with town xP stop defending yourself when no one is lynching you it just makes me want to really be awful and spite vote you for lolz I won't be satisfied until you kiss the footsteps of your lord and savior town jesus. | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote: The recent games I've seen of you, you haven't been particularly spectacular on D1. I believe in XXX you tried lynching Marv for a long time. In Hammertime which I hosted, it was Toad. Compounded with the fact that you didn't really seem to be re-evaluating much during the day at all I don't put as much stock in your reads as you would like me to. In XXX I tried to lynch JAT, who was mafia. In hammertime I was wrong. I thought I was right and I was wrong. In GoT I didn't play. I was wrong but I never pushed it because I had no idea if I was right or not. In Mini I tried to lynch GB, who was mafia In Down Under I tried to lynch Superbia (mafia), but the host done goofed In Down Under reboot I didn't play. I tried to defend slam but had no real alternative In Imperial I wanted to lynch geript and was wrong In Horn I tried to lynch Damdred and JAT. One was mafia the other wasn't. I was sure on neither. In Linux I tried to lynch SL (mafia) before sheeping Damdred onto Eden (mafia) In PYP I tried to lync marv (mafia) | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote: How certain are you that Breshke is town and why? It's some old as shit tone read. Feel pretty okay about it. | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: First: Being right does not make you town. I felt you were pushing Wave all day without being articulate in the reasons why. Your first case wasn't particularly good, and you easily jumped onto Yamato when that train rolled along. Ah I see what I did wrong. Next game I'll do this instead. On April 22 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote: The bolded sounds like a mafia comment. Why is he even mentioning it if he doesn't know? Also the entire tone of the post just sounds like mafia to me. Also, he scumreads breshke here for a "safe vote", then when he understands the rules, something magical happens: Right, so the narrative here is that somehow if the game is actually properly IML, then Breshke's vote is "safe" and therefore kind of scummy. Whereas now that WoS has realized that it's only a "check-in IML" type of game, the vote is no longer scummy, so I must assume the vote is thus no longer "safe". However, unlike WoS I would actually think the vote is actually MORE safe given the 24 hour check in. He cannot be accused of bringing the vote to L-2 because no such thing exists, he can unvote at any time. So what I get from this is WoS just used some bullshit reason to back off of breshke. Thus he is mafia. On April 22 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote: The bolded sounds like a mafia comment. Why is he even mentioning it if he doesn't know? Also the entire tone of the post just sounds like mafia to me. Also, he scumreads breshke here for a "safe vote", then when he understands the rules, something magical happens: Right, so the narrative here is that somehow if the game is actually properly IML, then Breshke's vote is "safe" and therefore kind of scummy. Whereas now that WoS has realized that it's only a "check-in IML" type of game, the vote is no longer scummy, so I must assume the vote is thus no longer "safe". However, unlike WoS I would actually think the vote is actually MORE safe given the 24 hour check in. He cannot be accused of bringing the vote to L-2 because no such thing exists, he can unvote at any time. So what I get from this is WoS just used some bullshit reason to back off of breshke. Thus he is mafia. On April 22 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote: The bolded sounds like a mafia comment. Why is he even mentioning it if he doesn't know? Also the entire tone of the post just sounds like mafia to me. Also, he scumreads breshke here for a "safe vote", then when he understands the rules, something magical happens: Right, so the narrative here is that somehow if the game is actually properly IML, then Breshke's vote is "safe" and therefore kind of scummy. Whereas now that WoS has realized that it's only a "check-in IML" type of game, the vote is no longer scummy, so I must assume the vote is thus no longer "safe". However, unlike WoS I would actually think the vote is actually MORE safe given the 24 hour check in. He cannot be accused of bringing the vote to L-2 because no such thing exists, he can unvote at any time. So what I get from this is WoS just used some bullshit reason to back off of breshke. Thus he is mafia. On April 22 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote: The bolded sounds like a mafia comment. Why is he even mentioning it if he doesn't know? Also the entire tone of the post just sounds like mafia to me. Also, he scumreads breshke here for a "safe vote", then when he understands the rules, something magical happens: Right, so the narrative here is that somehow if the game is actually properly IML, then Breshke's vote is "safe" and therefore kind of scummy. Whereas now that WoS has realized that it's only a "check-in IML" type of game, the vote is no longer scummy, so I must assume the vote is thus no longer "safe". However, unlike WoS I would actually think the vote is actually MORE safe given the 24 hour check in. He cannot be accused of bringing the vote to L-2 because no such thing exists, he can unvote at any time. So what I get from this is WoS just used some bullshit reason to back off of breshke. Thus he is mafia. On April 22 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote: The bolded sounds like a mafia comment. Why is he even mentioning it if he doesn't know? Also the entire tone of the post just sounds like mafia to me. Also, he scumreads breshke here for a "safe vote", then when he understands the rules, something magical happens: Right, so the narrative here is that somehow if the game is actually properly IML, then Breshke's vote is "safe" and therefore kind of scummy. Whereas now that WoS has realized that it's only a "check-in IML" type of game, the vote is no longer scummy, so I must assume the vote is thus no longer "safe". However, unlike WoS I would actually think the vote is actually MORE safe given the 24 hour check in. He cannot be accused of bringing the vote to L-2 because no such thing exists, he can unvote at any time. So what I get from this is WoS just used some bullshit reason to back off of breshke. Thus he is mafia. On April 22 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote: The bolded sounds like a mafia comment. Why is he even mentioning it if he doesn't know? Also the entire tone of the post just sounds like mafia to me. Also, he scumreads breshke here for a "safe vote", then when he understands the rules, something magical happens: Right, so the narrative here is that somehow if the game is actually properly IML, then Breshke's vote is "safe" and therefore kind of scummy. Whereas now that WoS has realized that it's only a "check-in IML" type of game, the vote is no longer scummy, so I must assume the vote is thus no longer "safe". However, unlike WoS I would actually think the vote is actually MORE safe given the 24 hour check in. He cannot be accused of bringing the vote to L-2 because no such thing exists, he can unvote at any time. So what I get from this is WoS just used some bullshit reason to back off of breshke. Thus he is mafia. On April 22 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote: The bolded sounds like a mafia comment. Why is he even mentioning it if he doesn't know? Also the entire tone of the post just sounds like mafia to me. Also, he scumreads breshke here for a "safe vote", then when he understands the rules, something magical happens: Right, so the narrative here is that somehow if the game is actually properly IML, then Breshke's vote is "safe" and therefore kind of scummy. Whereas now that WoS has realized that it's only a "check-in IML" type of game, the vote is no longer scummy, so I must assume the vote is thus no longer "safe". However, unlike WoS I would actually think the vote is actually MORE safe given the 24 hour check in. He cannot be accused of bringing the vote to L-2 because no such thing exists, he can unvote at any time. So what I get from this is WoS just used some bullshit reason to back off of breshke. Thus he is mafia. On April 22 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote: The bolded sounds like a mafia comment. Why is he even mentioning it if he doesn't know? Also the entire tone of the post just sounds like mafia to me. Also, he scumreads breshke here for a "safe vote", then when he understands the rules, something magical happens: Right, so the narrative here is that somehow if the game is actually properly IML, then Breshke's vote is "safe" and therefore kind of scummy. Whereas now that WoS has realized that it's only a "check-in IML" type of game, the vote is no longer scummy, so I must assume the vote is thus no longer "safe". However, unlike WoS I would actually think the vote is actually MORE safe given the 24 hour check in. He cannot be accused of bringing the vote to L-2 because no such thing exists, he can unvote at any time. So what I get from this is WoS just used some bullshit reason to back off of breshke. Thus he is mafia. On April 22 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote: The bolded sounds like a mafia comment. Why is he even mentioning it if he doesn't know? Also the entire tone of the post just sounds like mafia to me. Also, he scumreads breshke here for a "safe vote", then when he understands the rules, something magical happens: Right, so the narrative here is that somehow if the game is actually properly IML, then Breshke's vote is "safe" and therefore kind of scummy. Whereas now that WoS has realized that it's only a "check-in IML" type of game, the vote is no longer scummy, so I must assume the vote is thus no longer "safe". However, unlike WoS I would actually think the vote is actually MORE safe given the 24 hour check in. He cannot be accused of bringing the vote to L-2 because no such thing exists, he can unvote at any time. So what I get from this is WoS just used some bullshit reason to back off of breshke. Thus he is mafia. On April 22 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote: The bolded sounds like a mafia comment. Why is he even mentioning it if he doesn't know? Also the entire tone of the post just sounds like mafia to me. Also, he scumreads breshke here for a "safe vote", then when he understands the rules, something magical happens: Right, so the narrative here is that somehow if the game is actually properly IML, then Breshke's vote is "safe" and therefore kind of scummy. Whereas now that WoS has realized that it's only a "check-in IML" type of game, the vote is no longer scummy, so I must assume the vote is thus no longer "safe". However, unlike WoS I would actually think the vote is actually MORE safe given the 24 hour check in. He cannot be accused of bringing the vote to L-2 because no such thing exists, he can unvote at any time. So what I get from this is WoS just used some bullshit reason to back off of breshke. Thus he is mafia. On April 22 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote: The bolded sounds like a mafia comment. Why is he even mentioning it if he doesn't know? Also the entire tone of the post just sounds like mafia to me. Also, he scumreads breshke here for a "safe vote", then when he understands the rules, something magical happens: Right, so the narrative here is that somehow if the game is actually properly IML, then Breshke's vote is "safe" and therefore kind of scummy. Whereas now that WoS has realized that it's only a "check-in IML" type of game, the vote is no longer scummy, so I must assume the vote is thus no longer "safe". However, unlike WoS I would actually think the vote is actually MORE safe given the 24 hour check in. He cannot be accused of bringing the vote to L-2 because no such thing exists, he can unvote at any time. So what I get from this is WoS just used some bullshit reason to back off of breshke. Thus he is mafia. | ||
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I'm actually just going to go ahead and move my vote on yamato ##unvote ##vote yamato No idea if it's the right call. this is just a self meta thing. I KNOW I might be trying to lynch artanis for disagreeing with me when I'm right, whereas yamato has other reasons that feel less like I'm just being mad that he didn't listen to me. Although maybe that's kinda the case against him Whatever. | ||
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On April 24 2015 23:30 Palmar wrote: Oh that was easy. The mafia team is Wave/Yamato. Yammy hardly even acknowledged my case on WaveOfShadow, never really pushed the idea he might be scum and never cleared it either. here, take a look at all the suspicion yammy threw at wos. I'll bold some hard accusations of things that if we believe yamato believes in, should make him super suspicious of Wave. Then Yamato made this post here: Which seems to indicate he's still interested in lynching Wave, but what happens after that? Nothing. Look at this picture of yamato's filter where I'm looking for the word "wave" After all this suspicion he has NOTHING to follow up on it and idly parks his vote basically on artanis for what was a bullshit reason. Yamato is mafia. It's highly likely as per my case yesterday that WoS is too. I will support a lynch today on either of them and no one else. See you later it's weekend and I'm turning 30 | ||
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I'm so bad after day 1 at this thing. Whatever. You guys figure it out. | ||
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I still believe my case is valid. even if we ignore the associative stuff it's very strange how yamato suddenly stopped thinking about WoS (it would also be strange if wos was town) because people generally don't forget what they want to talk about. | ||
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I'm terrible past day 1 but I think voting Trfel is dumb as shit. But who knows. | ||
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I just want yamato to die for being a little bitch | ||
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On May 03 2015 05:58 yamato77 wrote: Magical. Whatever, I'm done fighting, I don't want to be alive at lylo again anyway. Peace. Tell everyone I'm confirmedesest town 2 ever play | ||
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rsoultin: Because suddenly I think this is actually a viable option I'll make you a deal. If you're right, we're good. If you're wrong, I have the one time ability in any future game to invoke an unconditional sheep from you on whatever case I'm pushing. Agreed? | ||
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@future Breshke If I'm being bad, this is the reason I'm lynching you (officially, mostly i just don't care) On April 22 2015 21:18 Breshke wrote: Palmar you are obviously ignoring the context though. From what I understand the thrid vote in IML can be seen as safe for scum as they vote on a misslynch but arnt the creator of the push nor one of the hammers. Therefore one could say that scum might join a wagon at this time to blend into town while still getting the misslynch they need. So while WoS said the vote was safe he ment it was safe way for scum to try and secure a misslynch. Yes a third vote in this type of instant misslynch is even safer but in context it doesn't move towards scums goal of getting a misslynch as a push that early is not likely to be sustained over a 24 hour period. So yes while you are strictly right that the vote was infact safer it can't be seen as pushing for a misslynch as much. Your response to my case. It was just as bad as artanis' but who cares. ##unvote ##vote Breshke | ||
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If artanis is mafia he can win I don't care. | ||
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On May 03 2015 08:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Trfel, give me a leap of faith and lynch Yamato. On the condition that we lynch you and not Breshke tomorrow if you're wrong | ||
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##vote Yamato77 If anything else his effort level has been shit. And my case is still valid. Regarding Artanis, I was ready to go back to calling him mafia for this post. On May 03 2015 09:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Because I thought about the game in the car and suddenly it all made sense. a Is there a reason for scum Artanis to not just come back to hammer Breshke then prob lynch Yamato the day after? Because this reasoning is dumb and Artanis knows it. But who cares. Then he said the "let's just end this game" thing, which kinda contradicts my main point about that post is that Artanis doesn't have the same impatience for information generally displayed by townies. So whatevs. | ||
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Maybe you should have been less wrong in your response to my Wave case Artanis. That would've helped. | ||
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On May 04 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote: i'm just gonna sheep you xP my turn to be lazy ^^ I am admittedly bad beyond day 1. | ||
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Like I don't want to believe this is his townplay, but the same goes for everyone here. | ||
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Because breshke and artanis were straight up dumb (defended wave) while yamato just sort of dropped the subject. Whatever. Good luck if I was wrong but I'm so bad that mafia probably will leave me alive. | ||
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34 WaveofShadowPerson was signed in when posted 04-24-2015 10:27 AM ET (US) Palmar is one of those cases where I'm gonna be annoyed because he's calling me scum and is right but for no good reason. sigh I should play the lottery. Sorry for calling yall bad so much. That was a tad dickish. | ||
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On May 04 2015 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hey, it helped as it made me quite sure you weren't scum  DMA is awesome. Whereas my 2 scum cases didn't? I hate this game. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7tNWqTd.png) I don't know why this didn't work in my case on yamato, but it was soooo good. | ||
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To clarify: Yamato is lazy scum, but none of the townies are mass posters either. How difficult do you guys think it'd be to win as mafia with mass posters like marv jat and hf and these unlimited days. Just keeping up would be impossible. | ||
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Although I did not vote you. But that was mostly out of indifference. I actually managed to get through this game without reading a single post by you. That's pretty good I think! | ||
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This game though, allows town to grind it out for such a long time mafia simply lose interest. Posting with perfect information for like 4 days trying to look like you're actually figuring people out is really tough. | ||
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On May 05 2015 09:33 WaveofShadow wrote: Normally I have no problems keeping up with that. yeah but you were obvious mafia. You kinda kept up. If you hadn't been such mafia it would've been really good. | ||
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