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Pretty busy, but nothing all that special. You seem to have been active at TL Mafia  | ||
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 Btw I've been actually reading the manga lately and I'd appreciate if there weren't any heavy spoilers in the flavor. | ||
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On April 26 2015 02:31 Damdred wrote: honestly I saw xatalos was in and I had to in Welcome, my eternal nemesis | ||
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On April 26 2015 03:03 Damdred wrote: You shot me last time so i will tunnel you for the next 5 days Then if I get a bullet, I'll shoot you just so that I don't need to agonize over your alignment. Deal? | ||
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On April 26 2015 07:03 sandroba wrote: Hello guys. I'm happy to have finally rolled town. Looks to me we have ~ 1 and a half lynches per complete cycle based on my own HP. Seems sweet and I expect mafia/3rd party to have some powerful roles based on that. On April 26 2015 07:04 sandroba wrote: This has become a trend lately for you afaik. Why do you even sign up for games if you are not going to care? Or do you just feel like you have to say this since you had simillar starts on both your past games as town? I can't say I'm a big fan of these opening posts. The feeling you get when someone tries to focus more on how their posts appear rather than what they achieve... That's the gut feeling I get somehow. | ||
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That's a quick judgment hahahaha | ||
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On April 26 2015 07:50 marvellosity wrote: Hey sand. And everyone else. I'm "everyone else"? :/ | ||
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Dunno. I guess it depends on the host? So I can't say I know much about Onegu's hosting style. | ||
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On April 26 2015 08:36 Damdred wrote: Xata is scum. Case following soon I await with interest. | ||
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On April 26 2015 08:39 Damdred wrote: Yes xata failed his will save Come again? | ||
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Well, I guess that's just null silliness then. I've learned my lesson not to trust my instincts when reading Damdred. | ||
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On April 26 2015 09:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote: So I decided to be a part of this game. Hello. Any thoughts so far? | ||
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Except something being off about sandroba...? Koshi, how did your scumread for sandroba formulate exactly? Even more so for marv and Damdred? | ||
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On April 26 2015 09:26 Damdred wrote: Why are you scum reading sandrona? You mean me? I don't think I ever said he was scum, just that I disliked his early posts more than anyone else's. | ||
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lol Fecalfeast is going to be waiting for a long time, I guess. | ||
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He already posted the "case" | ||
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On April 26 2015 12:38 LightningStrike wrote: Alrighty. I remember you talked something about Xata the last time you two played together can you two read each other like a book? To be honest I'd say I have a weak townread on Damdred right now. I've kind of liked his stunts and (somewhat genuine-looking) active evaluation of the thread. About the "read each other like a book" part... Well... I don't think we have such a successful history in reading each other (Although I killed Damdred last time as Maifa because he said something pretty important about my playstyle that would probably have gotten me caught eventually.) | ||
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On December 23 2014 12:04 Damdred wrote: 1) Screw everyone who 100% said "DAMDRED DIED FROM A PRESENT". That was the most horrible thing to say and was quite insulting! 2) I really wish people would of looked at my filter more and caught on especially to the ritoky thing and Xata thing especially with his response on day two onward his play didn't change and he was so mafia. 3) HF shouldn't of lived past d3, that vote d2 just showed how horribly mafia he was haha 4) Town sure did turn that around it was a great job 5) Lian was the town MVP I think | ||
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On April 26 2015 11:03 Chezinu wrote: ##Punch Damdred This might actually be some sort of a legit day action though.... I kind of dislike people using these ## characters as a joke since it gives people the chance to disguise real day actions. From now on use just the bold tags or something, please? | ||
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On April 26 2015 19:09 marvellosity wrote: Well, this is thrilling. Did you look at the thread yet in between your chess practice? Anything of note? | ||
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On April 26 2015 15:01 Stutters695 wrote: It's dumb and anyone could figure out some theory about it based on their starting HP/abilities. I don't think I've played with Sandroba, but I remember hearing he's good at scum. That seems like an unecessary gamble as an intro when the thread is so new. Hmm... Gamble? I don't think that's a very risky thing to say? | ||
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On April 26 2015 19:22 marvellosity wrote: Chess isn't until tomorrow. And no, nothing is interesting, hence my comment. Hence "practice" instead of "match" Do you consider sandroba's entrance as completely null then? | ||
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On April 26 2015 22:21 Inspector Javert wrote: Mafia: xata, SL, maybe sandro (less likely cause claimed approx. HP), some lurkers Town: damdred I'm interested to hear the reasoning behind these. I don't really like people giving a random list and leaving. | ||
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Btw Slam = Alakaslam | ||
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On April 26 2015 22:55 Breshke wrote: no I understand but obviously someone saying "cop don't investigate me" would naturally make the cop interested in said person so why not just act really townie instead. You might want to consider the possible roles and which role could want to say that. Naturally it could also be scum trying to imitate that role so it doesn't tell much. | ||
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I'm not sure how the "you are right somehow" is scummy... Since basically any alignment could be correct on mechanics speculation so there doesn't seem to be any "scumslip" like Breshke knowing him to be town. | ||
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More on the previous statement: let's assume that there's a player A (town) and a player B (scum). Player A wonders about player B's mechanics talk but comes to the conclusion that he may just be right based on his superior experience. I don't really see how this implies that player A has player B as town? Since after all, it would be the easiest possible topic for player B (scum) to say something correct / good-looking, Mechanics / setup talk, that is. Saying something correct about the setup shouldn't give much credit so there's no reason to assume that player A considers player B as scum. | ||
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On April 26 2015 23:20 Koshi wrote: I like inspector javet. I would like to think sicklucker is town for that "I didnt read OP yet" line. But maybe not. Damdred is confirmed town to me. What did you like about him exactly if you disagree with his reads and the list is the only thing he gave so far? While at it, could you explain your own reads as well... | ||
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On April 26 2015 08:38 Koshi wrote: Damdred is scum. Cba to make case. 3 down. I deserve sleep now. On April 26 2015 23:20 Koshi wrote: I like inspector javet. I would like to think sicklucker is town for that "I didnt read OP yet" line. But maybe not. Damdred is confirmed town to me. >.> | ||
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On April 27 2015 01:03 Koshi wrote: Javert is rayn btw Really? Speculation or fact? | ||
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On April 27 2015 01:09 Koshi wrote: It's because you are mafia. As if you bothered to think any further than my read on Damdred. It's more about the fact that you form and change your reads wildly and without any kind of basis. Maybe it all makes sense to you in your head, but it sure doesn't make sense to me. | ||
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On April 27 2015 01:14 indignant wrote: You of all people should know which alignment does this more often. I never said it makes him scum. | ||
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On April 27 2015 01:20 Koshi wrote: Xatalos totally disappeared know that thread moves forward. Who's not reading the thread? I'd still like to know where rayn was revealed btw. Can't be bothered to reread the thread just for that. | ||
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On April 27 2015 01:24 Koshi wrote: Xatalos is mafia That's convincing. | ||
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On April 27 2015 01:29 Inspector Javert wrote: Xatalos and marvellosity should fight. Fight marvellosity | ||
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"Each night you must vote for a Fight Promoter. If the fight Promoter is knocked out the night he is elected then no fight is made." | ||
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On April 27 2015 01:28 marvellosity wrote: I'm totes up for a vivax lynch I guess it wouldn't be the worst lynch. What would you make of his meta? I think he was pretty apathetic as scum before but I can't remember what his town play was like. | ||
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On April 27 2015 01:40 Koshi wrote: Clearly there are roles that amplify the damage received. The fights are extremely pro scum. They probably can bring townies really low with this mechanic. Not really if the fight is between 2 likely scum though, for example. Or even 1 town and 1 scum. In some ways that might even be more useful for information and stuff. | ||
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Hm? | ||
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On April 27 2015 01:45 Koshi wrote: Vote for Koshi. I am probably unkillable. If you pledge your vote to me I will not push your lynch today. It's not like your vote threatens me in any way. | ||
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1) Town 2) Sensible 3) Not too likely to die What's not to like? | ||
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I'll consider it if you pick sensible targets and announce them beforehand. | ||
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I hope we all have some sort of powers to punch them back. | ||
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On April 26 2015 09:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote: So I decided to be a part of this game. Hello. I guess. | ||
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Probably not. | ||
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On April 27 2015 02:26 indignant wrote: I don't think you can infer anything from those posts. Dunno. My gut feeling is that it's a bit ballsy for scum to just say stuff like "hello", "nothing to say bye". There's usually at least slightly more effort. Some sort of pretended message. At least setup / off-topic talk. Something. | ||
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On April 27 2015 02:47 Holyflare wrote: Sandroba spends a sentence on scum reads and 1000 sentences on setup Hahahahahaha | ||
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On April 27 2015 02:44 sandroba wrote: erm actually I think I dislike LS the most after reading the interactions over. Could you elaborate a little please | ||
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On April 27 2015 04:37 marvellosity wrote: How can my play be lacklustre when I haven't done anything? Lacklustre = trying to do things but the things are shit I'm blates town because I'm out of town, have an excuse to be afk forever but I'm randomly in the thread anyway. Wow marv. Such a slip. | ||
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On April 27 2015 07:08 Holyflare wrote: Yehhh my wagon so gd! It's time for a WAGON OF JUSTICE. (old meme or something) | ||
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On April 27 2015 07:09 Fecalfeast wrote: xata your posts are confusing me hm? | ||
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Nobody else really caught my eye besides doing a policy lynch so far. | ||
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On April 27 2015 07:17 The Shining wrote: Yeah trying to follow that read progression kind of hurt, Xata. I'm like just getting up to speed. I actually liked Sand's posts. Speculating on setup this early is dangerous but it could've just been an attempt at figuring out what to expect from this game. I've been scummed as town for talking setup before so naturally I can see how this is possible. And its like you want to vote him but you don't. You post why you want to. Then another post of "at least he's active though"... Then vote him anyway. If you're on the fence about him, which it looks like you are, then you're on the fence on your own case. I can't buy into it. Xatas a slight town lean, though, since you've been "off" on Sand since the beginning. I don't see scum pushing the same lynch this hard, even if you're not fully convinced yourself on it. Eh... It's more about his detachment from active topics and kind of "doing his own thing" (setup mostly) when the thread is moving. Kind of like the feeling that he's posting something to have posted something and not actively following. | ||
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On April 27 2015 07:23 Koshi wrote: Ok. Maybe he is town after all. Who? | ||
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I might as well give up on trying to understand Koshi. | ||
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1) "Pretty meh posts" applies to most players so far. He doesn't even have the most "meh" posts. 2) As I said before, it's not like him assuming that a more experienced player would be more likely correct on setup speculation implies that he reads said player as town. It's not hard to fake correct reads as scum, and it's even easier (and profitable) for scum to fake correct setup speculation. I just don't see how a player being correct on some setup thing makes him towny or why Breshke should think so. | ||
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On April 27 2015 07:39 indignant wrote: I understand this sentiment but it's for the wrong reason. The read on you is legit or at least it was a while ago. His scumread was legit and townread isn't? I'd say none of his reads make much sense yet. He's just almost saying random reads as far as I can see. | ||
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On April 27 2015 07:57 indignant wrote: You obviously didn't even read my post on Breshke. Way to go. I guess there is the point of him not focusing on anything useful.... *shrug* It's just that neither have most others. And to the last point I already answered with point 2. | ||
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On April 26 2015 23:08 Breshke wrote: I don't think the question to sandro is a useless one because if he doesnt have a proper explanation i thought it was possible he could be mafia because knowing all the mafias rols would give you a lot more information about what would happen in the night. I have since realised that is probably dumb. You have still never explained how it is obvious how he reached the conclusion that it is 1.5 lynches per night btw. I understand your reason behind it but i don't think it is a right one. It is like claiming mason some people think that you shouldnt because you are town and just should act town and the cop won't investigate you. But instead you have basically claimed that a cop investigating you would have bad consequences for the cop which doesn't really seem to be a very town sided role to begin with. Upon that if you were actually town I don't see why you are worried about this in the first place. Well, it's not like probably correct -> 100% correct. I don't really see the scummy motivation for asking a question where there's a chance of a slip or something. Whatever. I don't think it's anywhere near textbook scum to even make weird/questionable plays in the first place. | ||
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fittle a girl/guy who likes way too many guys at once and messes with each one's head you - "oh my god i like (whoever's name) so much!" me - "i thought you liked (whoever's name)" you - "i do, but not just him! i like other people too!" me "you're sucha fittle" | ||
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On April 27 2015 19:39 Jean Valjean wrote: It is a play on a common role in mafia games, as well as a reference to the great work from which my name derives. I understand why you feel this way. But I think it's much more constructive for me to simply progress through the game taking whichever direction I feel like taking, instead of forcing myself to read things I do not believe I'm ready to tackle yet. If nothing else, this townread on Xata, despite not being a lynch candidate, helps people understand my motives. In addition should I not reach any kind of a strong conclusion about someone's alignment being mafia today, I might default back to simply voting alongside the people I think are town, and now that I've explained in short why I trust Xata, I might choose to vote with him. But we're far away from that part of the day and I have more things I want to read and share before the day is over. Oh, a potential sheep acquired? Seriously though I don't dislike the back-and-forth thought process there. I often have the same fault of being a bit *too* (?) transparent. It may be confusing at times but it's also extremely risky to do as scum (more chances of contradictions etc.) so it's a townie leaning thing IMO. | ||
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And if he did something similar as scum before too... Then again, that would almost seem like digging his own grave... | ||
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I guess I wouldn't mind lynching him. So basically sand/SL/LS in consideration atm | ||
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On April 27 2015 19:53 Breshke wrote: he doesn't really revisit it or tell anyone to look into me when he is interacting with people later on which from what I remember is normally what LS does. To me it feels like he isn't trying to draw attention to it because he isnt confident he can push the read even though his posts directly about it seem to say otherwise. He also seems to dodge FF's question here could be unintentional His main contributions seem to be a listpost and a weak push with no real involvement... So it's not too good. | ||
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You mean marv told him to backtrack in scumQT? Haha I somehow doubt marv would approve of the plan in the first place, though. Or that SL would just go at marv without saying anything in advance. And in any case we should lynch SL first then. | ||
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On April 27 2015 21:30 indignant wrote: SL would absolutely do that. It is very likely that they would not get along at all if they were on the same scumteam. Still we aren't lynching marv so talking about him is a waste of time. Well this is going to be an easy game if the scum hate each other :D | ||
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On April 27 2015 11:54 Damdred wrote: I'm home finally! I got off almost two hours late give me a bit to filter dive. But some prelim things if anyone wants to converse about. I think Marv is town. Ls is town, xata is town ff is town. Could you elaborate on LS being town? | ||
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On April 27 2015 22:20 Damdred wrote: I don't think that disproves what I said however LS. I might not actually put work in at this juncture honestly, when people are BM for no reason towards me I don't have to do jack shit. Anyway, any direct questions ask away | ||
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On April 27 2015 22:57 marvellosity wrote: I don't comprehend how anyone can be so stupid As in, I literally need someone to explain it to me, how is is possible genuine question open for all offers I thought he was trolling at first but you should read his conspiracy theory about you and SL. It's not totally impossible. | ||
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On April 27 2015 21:10 Inspector Javert wrote: I don't think I'll be able to focus on this game until right before deadline. If anyone wants to focus on anything I've said they should focus on my marv/SL scum reads. I think SL made his team mate marv mad and then their lame fight resulted. I agreed with pretty much everything they said about each other; marv playing with sock puppets fighting himself/SL weak pushing. I think they're the scummiest in the thread. | ||
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I hope his "latter half" doesn't mean 10 minutes before the deadline. | ||
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On March 06 2014 05:29 yamato77 wrote: Not caught up yet. Some time before numbers are due I'll read the rest of the thread. On March 07 2014 04:13 yamato77 wrote: I don't have the motivation to not get lynched this game. Whatever. | ||
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A british slang term very commonly used (especially in London or at least the more urban areas of london like south east) to mean a girl/female/woman. Mostly used by rudey boys, "gangstas" and chavs. e.g DER WERE BARE GASH AT DAT SKOOL = There were lots of girls at that school. | ||
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On April 27 2015 23:49 marvellosity wrote: yeah I'm too old for my word usage to be the current word usage I thought you were a gangsta. | ||
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I guess SL might not be the best lynch for now though. Let's see what happens with the presents. | ||
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I don't think the reasons for lynching him are very good so far. Convince me? | ||
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In any case I agree that Ippo and his company are most likely town. I'm not completely sure what the scum characters would be or if there could be a traitor or something in the Gym.... As a sidenote, you could say my character *was* part of the Gym. | ||
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On April 28 2015 01:45 Holyflare wrote: WARNING SHIT VERSION OF LIST POST INCOMING!!!!!! townyish marv - should learn to read ff - dude is hilarious, liked his posting so far Xatalos - sheeped the correct read (pending), seems pretty open and inquisitive/carefree + self deprecation about being promoter probably townyish indignant - (jat?) doesn't seem like a complete douche and actually pointing out scummy things instead of being hesitant bitch meehhhbe town? rygart - seems not so caught up in being all serious, got rid of his smurf indentity quickly, sicklucker (probably down a tier, not liking his complete focus on being town read based on role when he knows it doesn't clear him ever) jean val - posted for the sake of posting but was aware of it and actively pointed it out, seemed to just get thoughts out, thoughts weren't totally awful even if no conclusions drawn sepulchre - (liked his posts against rsoul when he came back but not much to go on so, provisional here but tempted to send up if more like previous posting) ls - lots of hilarious innocent mistakes like not understanding quips about rsouls gender, not really many afk excuses and not afraid to post his reads (probably up?) stutters695 - uhhhh, not really sure? :D seems pretty fluid but like nothing super there but somehow still seems bit towny? lol meh inspector javert - psycho reads, small list post to start (not much to go on -.-) rsoul - serious stick up her butt, posting for the sake of posting with no actual relevant content + intentionally antagonising people, free town reads and nothing really more (maybe down, maybe not - wait and see) koshi - (fuck this guy again) you serious about this game..? stop being such an unnecessary douche the shining - not really done much of anything, kind of meh meh obiwanshinobi - not really done anything and after newbie game where he was town and told me he has started caring about games more as town this should probably drop him down a tier breshke - meh, kind of limited amount of wishy washy posts (not scummy due to ls read which kind of had merit) scummyish sandroba - scummy posts, lots of setup talk, one post where he mentions reads in one sentence and then talks more about setup, afking meta, scummy yamato - usual mafia excuse (potential to change if sticks to what he said) vivax - really boring, not particularly involved, making useless posts which don't do anything, uneventful damdred - mediocre, not really trying to do anything, posting for sake of posting and reads seem pretty free/not thought out/hard to do chezinu chezinu Seems good. Although why is LS town when you say that the LS scumread has merit in the same post? | ||
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On April 28 2015 01:54 Holyflare wrote: merit to him, as in i can see breshke thinking that from his point of view, not to do with ls' alignment I guess I can see that... But you don't agree with Breshke? | ||
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On April 28 2015 01:58 rsoultin wrote: lol@xata's sig Yeah I just couldn't resist :D Laughed quite a bit when I read that. | ||
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On April 28 2015 02:05 Holyflare wrote: i don't disagree about what he's said and i can see him thinking that it makes ls scum (dodging questions etc, not showing the meta) but i don't agree that it makes ls scum since i have other things that make me think he's town + i've seen him not provide the games for his meta before and the ignoring thing could just be missing out on the questions I guess... Though it's a bit disturbing that he'd (even unintentionally) miss out on stuff that directly challenged his strongest scumread and proceeded with the vote still. | ||
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On April 28 2015 04:30 sicklucker wrote: See we have the same idea. If two players are doing the same nothing and are usualy scum when they do nothing. But votes were super easy to get on yamato over sandro. That means sandro is going to be mafia more of the time because there is going to be resistance on getting mafia to vote on mafia I can agree with this. | ||
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On April 28 2015 04:34 Jean Valjean wrote: I feel quite strongly that Breshke is mafia. The reason isn't really what is in his filter, but rather what isn't there. I am going to try to explain this in detail but it will take some intuition on part of the reader to fully comprehend why I'm going after him. I want your focus to be this: Breshke never attempts to lead with his questions and he never offers opinions or insight on situations Let's just break what he has posted down: Mechanics discussion with almost no content. While discussing mechanics on it's own isn't scummy at all, it's also not something to townread people for. After figuring out the mechanics thing that I admit I don't quite understand myself, but I also don't really know how the game works so that's not really an issue. But the point is Breshke did not talk about anything else until this post. Notice how this is just a straight up question, he doesn't even comment on the other reads, and much less anything else going on in the game. He does not offer any information or insight, preferring to straight up ask the question This discussion isn't about the game or trying to figure out someone's alignment. This is just a philosophical discussion about how mafia should be played, a fantastic topic if you're mafia as it looks like you're talking about the game but you really aren't. Again notice that at this point in the game I don't think Breshke has given even a single lean on any player in either direction. He has talked plenty, but not about things that are conducive to solving the game. So when Xata pushes him for exactly what I'm pointing out, he kinda throws out a few reads. Pay special attention to the bolded. What the hell is this? This is not a read any viable human being would make. It's absolutely pointless to talk about whether or not he agrees with Indiginant's play style if he's not going to draw any conclusion from it. Again, the theme goes on that he does not offer information unless prompted, he doesn't feel any need to share things with the thread unless specifically asked. The one exception is below. This is his one real read this game. As you all can see it's very flimsy and actually appeals to someone else (Xata) in his explanation. Is LS really someone you would expect to take a strong leadership role when he's town? Is this a viable reason to scumread him? This feels so flimsy that I simply don't believe Breshke believes this. Also, when pressed on about this read, notice how weak it is really: Like none of this is strong at all. I'm not saying LS couldn't be mafia, but the reasons Breshke has brought up are absolutely not why if he is. Notice the bolded, it really seems like he could simply go and confirm it if he actually cared about the read. That's really about it for what is in Breshke's filter. I left out him randomly asking me about my experience level and a few other minor things, but I don't think I'm being unfair about my representation of his filter. I believe I have fully proven that Breshke has almost no reads on anyone this game, and what little reads he does have are extremely weak. In addition all his questioning of random people is usually fairly one-sided, in that he rarely seems to offer to give up any information to his correspondent. So, I think you cannot argue with my conclusion of what Breshke's filter is. However what is now left is to figure out if all of this actually makes him mafia. I think it does, but I'm more than willing to listen to a different opinion. ##vote Breshke It basically boils down to his filter being "meh" again... Which is kind of true. But actually I don't think his small case on LS was bad. It got me to consider LS being scum. | ||
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On April 28 2015 06:14 indignant wrote: Why are you asking this right now? Why aren't you reading the posts about him? Wtf? Being "meh" is a pretty reliable scumtell for many people btw. I'm a bit busy atm and it would be helpful to ease the process. | ||
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On April 28 2015 06:11 sandroba wrote: HF you have been pushing a lot of BS this game. That list post is awful and so far you seem the only person that is somehow convinced I am mafia as opposed to most people who are saying "meh he is afk maybe he is mafia". You have been going for easy targets while spamming the thread with one liners and giving out terrible random reads. I believe this man is mafia and we should definetelly lynch him today. I find it hard to disagree more on any one post than this one. Did you even read the thread yet to determine that his reads are trash when they really aren't? | ||
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On April 28 2015 06:28 Koshi wrote: WHY DOES HE NEED TO READ THE THREAD WHEN HOLYFLARE HIS READS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE THREAD? CAN YOU FUCKING TRY TO READ HOLYFLARE HIS READS? If you are town. Know nothing and read Holyflare his fucking listpost you still know nothing. Except that HF got "feelings" around some people that are probably 100% fabricated. Uh... They weren't really just feelings. They had mostly reasonings and he expanded on them in following posts. | ||
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On April 28 2015 06:37 indignant wrote: Why on earth are you constantly talking about Breshke and nothing else? Are you scumbuddies or something? Because he's been brought up as a lynch candidate every now and then and I'd like to get the correct picture of his chances of flipping scum before it's like 5min to deadline. Last minute shenanigans and stuff | ||
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On April 28 2015 06:53 indignant wrote: Marv voted yamato for being afk. Yamato isn't afk anymore. That's true so it's stretching it to claim that marv supports the current yamato wagon. | ||
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On April 28 2015 07:18 Damdred wrote: Sorry for my absence its been one of those days. Anyway i'll go back through the thread and answer anything directed at me, like xatas question about LS. @Xata, LS is a meta read. He loves to bus and hes super lazy as scum. In a nutshell he is a meta machine as town and can just pull shit out from other games to compare and show people how the read should be different. For instance between LS and marv even though it was subtel where Ls showed how he was wrong about breshkes filter I thought it was insanely towny. hes also done it several other times in the thread not really being lazy. I think hes pretty towny still. only on page 5x so anything pressing just ask me He's been kind of lazy here though IMO... Like voting for Breshke without addressing my counter to his main argument for Breshke being scum. And his second argument was Breshke being "pretty meh". | ||
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On April 28 2015 07:37 indignant wrote: Wouldn't mind Vivax fighting the inspector or similar exciting shit. Yeah something along those lines seems OK | ||
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On April 28 2015 07:40 Sepulchre wrote: I'm fine with fighting, this is what we are here for after all. Should probably mention that I do bonus damage. Well then you certainly deserve your chance to fight | ||
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On April 28 2015 07:41 Inspector Javert wrote: How do recent events make HF scummy at all? He pushed mafia the last half of the day and had his vote stolen from said mafia. Read at least the host messages please. | ||
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On April 28 2015 19:12 marvellosity wrote: I know you're modkilled, but how and why are you so shit? You're so shit I am trashtalking you while you're dead. You big pile of smelly faeces. Lol I think Koshi was pretty decent at some point but something must have happened to him while I was gone | ||
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Vivax and Javert might be the most sketchy ones. | ||
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On April 28 2015 20:13 marvellosity wrote: Be warned, mafia. I know there's probably at least 1 of you who managed to angle yourself well on that lynch. And given time I WILL FIND YOU AND I WILL KILL YOU You're secretly a masochist or something? :D | ||
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On April 28 2015 22:47 marvellosity wrote: thought experiment: what were Damdred's options? Largely increasing the chances of sandroba getting lynched while looking a bit better himself or largely decrease the chances of sandroba getting lynched while looking pretty greatly worse himself. Hm... I guess I'd go for the former option myself most of the time. So it's not really that indicative maybe... Only slightly. | ||
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On April 28 2015 22:59 marvellosity wrote: I would add it wasn't obvious how much his vote would or would not affect the outcome, as votes came in thick and fast. sand was leading the whole way until a quick flurry of yamato votes brought him up level so i don't know that damdred would know his vote would *largely* increase sand's chances of getting lynched Looking at the vote thread Damdred vote sandroba just after yamato got that huge amount of votes though. If I'm not mistaken yamato was even with sandroba when Damdred voted, or at least like -1/+1 vote away and basically everyone had already expressed their preference (though indignant and Jean ninjavoted sandroba at practically the same time making the difference bigger). Something in Damdred's favor I'd say. | ||
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Such a close competition Wow | ||
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If we do something like lynch Vivax and damage Sepu/Javert then that seems like a decent result for the day. Other suggestions? | ||
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On April 29 2015 07:45 rsoultin wrote: in other news, unless a town player RBd me ^^ we should probably kill sepu -initiating broken record dance- Hm? | ||
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rsoul: Maybe... Pretty WIFOM though indeed. But yeah now need to go. | ||
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On April 29 2015 09:09 Fecalfeast wrote: sent action to host Were you healed indignant? | ||
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On April 29 2015 07:01 Inspector Javert wrote: No one died are you shitting me? Btw is this the reaction of a townie after nobody died >.> | ||
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Damdred's vote choice is something slightly town-indicative. Otherwise I suck at reading him. So not really up to lynch him... Jean feels somewhat towny IMO from his style. Dunno about Breshke anymore. Maybe he wouldn't be the worst fighter candidate. Kind of forgot about OWS (you lol) / The Shining. These probably need some blue action... Then there's Vivax/Sep/Javert who kind of look the worst from what happened up to sandroba's lynch. I'd be pretty much satisfied atm if they took the lynch + damage. | ||
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On April 29 2015 18:27 marvellosity wrote: I don't really get sicklucker's line of reasoning; Sepulchre has claimed a particular role that does a particular thing (does damage in a fight) If we find that that's not what happened, then we get a free auto-lynch. So... Yeah if the other person only claims 5 damage then... One is lying. | ||
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On April 29 2015 17:41 Breshke wrote: Xata am i misunderstanding how these things work or is everyone not some type of role Seems kind of OP? | ||
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Welcome to Hajime No Ippo Mafia you are Ippo Makunochi Your HP: 22 Liver Blow: Deal 2 Damage to a player and RB them. Only usable at night. Passive: The first punch you take at night is reduced by 50% rounded down. Passive: You are a member of Kamagawa Gym. You win with Town | ||
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On April 30 2015 00:11 Jean Valjean wrote: At the time I wasn't around to post anything that was of much value and I just got annoyed at that post by rsoultin. Regarding your suggestion that maybe he's just bad, I still don't quite get why he would in that case say something that's wrong. Even bad players are capable of just pointing out things that are factually correct. I just think it's weird that he wouldn't simply admit to not having a clue if he didn't. Why is he trying to make it look like he has put more effort into the game than he has? That's what is bothering me. Maybe I was overreacting and I should just stick to Vivax. There really does exist a reason for Vivax being mafia as I explained in my post about his read against me. Sure but why wouldn't I post in a constructed manner? I think my posts are extremely easy to read and help people process my thoughts in a straightforward manner. Why would I immediately post every thought that comes to me like a blathering monkey instead of presenting the things I have to say in a pleasant and constructed manner? It's not like using paragraphs makes me mafia, is it? I hope the "blathering monkey" doesn't refer to me In any case, I was mostly pointing out that your response to being called "clean" was based on a false assumption. With that out of the way, yeah, it doesn't really make you scum. Each has their own playstyle. Generally though it's not a good sign if someone makes huge posts with lots of text and little conclusions... You do at least have conclusions, it's just that your style is somewhat detached from the thread and as such can give the impression of not caring too much. Personally I have a hard time townreading you and if you're town, you could maybe focus on A) giving your input on relevant discussion topics B) finding genuinely new / useful stuff that nobody else noticed yet. You've been kind of doing B, but it's been... more like explaining why you'd think some way, not pushing your opinion to make others change their mind or to get feedback. | ||
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On April 30 2015 00:35 indignant wrote: I swear I did not read Xatalos post before I answered. Such a parrot | ||
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It's a bit sad since he promised to promote the fight but we'll see. | ||
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I'd like to hear the "specific reason" he mentioned to me before he gets lynched or something though It might even clear him. | ||
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On April 30 2015 17:54 marvellosity wrote: I would say, given sand flipped with vote-altering powers, if LS were mafia, that's a lot of vote-altering powers mafia has its disposal This is true too... Then again, it's probably not OP considering that there are a ton of town roles. | ||
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On April 27 2015 01:29 Inspector Javert wrote: Xatalos and marvellosity should fight. Could that be a breadcrumb to a power for forcing fights? If it is, then just LOL | ||
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Randomly spreading suspicion while including a slighter correct scumread on his list: On April 26 2015 22:21 Inspector Javert wrote: Mafia: xata, SL, maybe sandro (less likely cause claimed approx. HP), some lurkers Town: damdred Reminds me of the sensibility of scumreads that sandroba had: On April 27 2015 21:10 Inspector Javert wrote: I don't think I'll be able to focus on this game until right before deadline. If anyone wants to focus on anything I've said they should focus on my marv/SL scum reads. I think SL made his team mate marv mad and then their lame fight resulted. I agreed with pretty much everything they said about each other; marv playing with sock puppets fighting himself/SL weak pushing. I think they're the scummiest in the thread. Refusing to lynch sandroba even though he was included in his scumlist earlier.... And the reason is the same one already included in that scumlist that made him a bit less likely scum (so nothing has changed apparently but he still refuses to lynch one of his scumreads). This is inconsistent... First it was just a slight thing making him not so scummy, now it makes him town? On April 28 2015 04:19 Inspector Javert wrote: I don't care if Yamato gets lynched but he has enough votes without mine, I don't know his meta but his 1 post I remember wasn't enough to not lynch. I won't vote sandroba because he hinted about an HP total really early and thats something I don't see mafia doing. Trying his best to save sandroba: On April 28 2015 06:25 Inspector Javert wrote: I'm switching to Vivax ##vote: Vivax On April 28 2015 06:55 Inspector Javert wrote: Switching to yamato cause <5 min and I already said I wouldn't vote sandro. ##unvote ##vote yamato Frustrated over events that are beneficial for town: On April 29 2015 07:01 Inspector Javert wrote: No one died are you shitting me? On April 29 2015 07:45 Inspector Javert wrote: How does mafia win with ~21dmg per night and no nks? That's like a 1.3 people right? Resisting FF lynch... Maybe Vivax is town after all? On April 30 2015 05:49 Inspector Javert wrote: We could have shining track FF again tonight and see what happens? Kill vivax in the mean time? Unless FF and shining are mafia together won't that confirm/deny that FF is mafia? This here gives me some pause though. Would Maifa really say this? On April 29 2015 07:19 Inspector Javert wrote: It might be in your best interest to lynch me. I'm town but I have a power that hurts people and I tend not to make good decisions in positions of power. | ||
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On April 30 2015 21:20 marvellosity wrote: literally the worst pre-flip association i have ever heard. gj xata :p Hahahahaha Well it was more like a random thought. Nothing solid to make Vivax town. | ||
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Forgot about this Koshi bit in my earlier post: On April 28 2015 07:27 Inspector Javert wrote: Well, I think koshi needs to be modkilled since I can use this: to determine his alignment. | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:07 rsoultin wrote: ... sepu -facedesks- Oh, him. Yeah. Well we can do FF -> Vivax -> Javert -> Sepu | ||
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I was going to say my name but it would be too revealing. I'll just say that I was part of the Gym, but moved away from there during the story. | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:26 marvellosity wrote: I'm probably the only one of you fuckers who even works out. And I'm not in the gym. The world is BROKEN Well I do go here http://www.shukokai.fi/?cat=1 if it counts as a "gym". Not exactly, but close. | ||
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On April 30 2015 22:43 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I will answer this part: The special reason why I quoted your quote earlier was I thought you claimed 3rd Party but I might of misunderstood lol. Also I know my role seems Mafiaish and I kinda dislike it myselfbut it just for once per game type of deal. I'm not sure if I follow your line of thought there..... | ||
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On May 01 2015 07:18 rsoultin wrote: btw shining i <3 you lol >< ff would have been in my qt(s) and that...would have sucked Hahahahaha | ||
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On May 01 2015 07:25 The Shining wrote: <3 gut feelings OP. FFs role would've been a pain. And hurray rso, they can't kill us both...I think. So I just need to make it through tonight and stalk more baddies tomorrow night. So now that ff is flipped, a couple of things about his filter. Like him not wanting to vote sandro but hinting at voting vivax? A few times. I'm not convinced he'd bus one while defending the other. Yeah that's what I noticed about Javert too. It's *possible* that Vivax could be just a really pathetic townie. We'll see. | ||
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On May 01 2015 07:29 marvellosity wrote: especially as sandro was the one getting lynched and vivax wasn't... That's true though. | ||
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On May 01 2015 07:31 marvellosity wrote: most likely being around 100%, yes | ||
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On May 01 2015 07:33 indignant wrote: Btw. I still don't trust this guy at all and we should most definitely not make him the fight promoter. Just sayin. Maybe HF again? Dunno. | ||
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On May 01 2015 07:51 LightningStrike wrote: Was it that hilarious case with a picture showing someone is scum or something like that? It was a fakeclaim (as town) that caused interesting reactions in the scumteam. Not sure about the details though since it's been a long time. | ||
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On May 01 2015 10:38 sicklucker wrote: These guys are like 95%+ confirmed town btw Me rstou shining breske xata Jat and hf are more like 85% and marvs a lil lower How did Breshke get confirmed btw? | ||
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On May 01 2015 08:35 sicklucker wrote: im going to rng my heal between xata/jat because they both have rly low hp so they will be targeted by there low dmg spells He was already healed though? Although no idea for how much. | ||
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On May 01 2015 16:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I hope Xat doesn't die. I do enjoy having him around. Not sure where this came from but... thanks I guess? | ||
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On May 01 2015 20:45 indignant wrote: Ignore him. The people on that list are all very likely to be town, yes. Are they confirmed town though? No. The only one close to that is Shining. But all of this doesn't even matter because if you want a fight promoter who can actually promote a fight tomorrow you do not pick any of them. SL does not know my HP - is it low? Meh, kinda. Healing me will still be worth it in the long run. But I can 100 % guarantee you that I will not die tonight. 100 %. And no, I will not explain this. Regardless of all of that you should not plan your nightactions in a too complicated way. It just makes it easier for scum to fuck with it using their roles or to find out who they should kill. If you have nothing better to do than to move yourself to a certain place on the playerlist - fine, do that. But don't expect everything to work out like planned. And don't plan the game around people that are at best question marks like batsnacks, sepulchre and Obi. You can try to kill Vivax tonight. But if you do better be absolutely sure that he dies because if he doesn't then we 100 % still lynch him tomorrow. Therefore it would be smarter to damage someone else in my opinion. Hm, yeah. It wouldn't make much sense to deal only a little damage to Vivax. | ||
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On May 01 2015 23:32 marvellosity wrote: why must you mock my mancrush ;( Sorry but I don't swing that way :/ | ||
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On May 02 2015 00:16 marvellosity wrote: oh Xata was in that game too *waves* Which one? | ||
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On May 02 2015 00:29 Damdred wrote: JV I keep forgetting he's in the game. its actually highly likely. Didn't he claim a power already What is likely? | ||
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On May 02 2015 00:32 rsoultin wrote: mmm i agree with most of your townreads marv which means you're probably wrong on at least one of them xP theoretically we've got what...3 more scum and at least a couple 3ps left yeah? Probably 2-3 left yeah depending on how much power their roles have / what kind of 3P we have. If there's malicious 3P that deals damage / recruits / etc. then the scumteam might be smaller? | ||
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On May 02 2015 00:36 marvellosity wrote: it would have been even more one-sided, because gumshoe was mafia PGO and I was trying to roleblock him N1 but died... Haha yeah.. | ||
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On May 02 2015 00:39 Damdred wrote: I highly doubt the whole sandroba wagon was 100% town and I don't see a reason not to town read everyone he is now sooo. Its really likely I still don't get what you're saying >.> | ||
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On May 02 2015 00:47 marvellosity wrote: yeah. when I have a townread of whatever strength on everyone on the wagon except 1 person, I don't see why it makes sense to think that person is going to be mafia. Given everyone else is town, why not them too. I guess it's related to the fact that scum often like to "play both sides". Meaning they rarely all do the exact same thing. | ||
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On May 02 2015 00:56 LightningStrike wrote: Okay with Vivax being most likely scum should we start discussing who we lynch after Vivax? Javert I'd say? | ||
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1) "sandroba is slightly scummy (made a bit less likely since he claimed his approx. HP)" 2) sandroba becomes a major wagon 3) "sandroba is town because he claimed his approx. HP, I won't lynch him" 4) votes for anyone not sandroba Yeah... | ||
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On May 02 2015 01:12 Inspector Javert wrote: Sandroba had, I thought at the time, 1 small thing going for him. The HP semi claim. Yamato had, I thought at the time, 0 things going for him. That's why I voted how I voted. I put marv and xata in the amateur fight d1. That still doesn't explain how your scum lean sandroba suddenly becomes someone you won't lynch at all. Especially over a null(?) read like yamato. Obviously the most scummy players you chose there.... | ||
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I read that as "lazy mafia". No joke. | ||
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Not that it makes him town, it just doesn't make sense to fakeclaim something like that as either alignment. Not that it makes any sense to do it as either alignment either so dunno (well, naturally it would make sense to do it scum, but not to claim doing it). | ||
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On May 02 2015 03:18 Inspector Javert wrote: I picked xata and marv because I: Needed people that wouldn't be picked for the main fight. Wanted people that probably wouldn't get lynched even if they were mafia. Btw I don't understand this reasoning at all. So you should just help towny people get killed for the lolz? | ||
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On May 02 2015 07:07 indignant wrote: I took some damage. I do not really know how much though. How can you not know..? | ||
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On May 02 2015 07:08 Holyflare wrote: mafia tried to kill me rofl I guess they took some damage then | ||
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On May 02 2015 08:21 Holyflare wrote: no idea why stutters used stuff on me btw and it's incredibly strange if he took no dmg back and won't explain it he said the above but i think it's bull shit especially after yesterday where i asked to end the fight specifically because i couldn't really be taking anymore dmg, it would be a good cover for mafia trying to finish me off It's extremely weird why he would A) do this B) claim this. It makes little sense as either alignment. Maybe they decided the way to go would be to make bad claims haha (see: FF, Javert) | ||
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On May 02 2015 15:05 Damdred wrote: Why would we lynch him over vivax who Marv probably red checked? marv was parity cop though? Meaning he couldn't have known anyone's alignment before he died. If Vivax and Sepu can't fight... Then I guess something like people out of Javert/OWS/Stutters seems decent enough. | ||
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On May 02 2015 14:34 Inspector Javert wrote: Let me fight I have like a billion HP. And you want to lose HP? >.> This seems weird. | ||
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On May 02 2015 20:05 Breshke wrote: Jat has taken a large amount of damage. And? | ||
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On May 02 2015 23:35 indignant wrote: Like I said - pretty useless to argue about it. If he isn't scum he will die soon. Yeah he's apparently on low HP already too. | ||
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On May 02 2015 23:40 indignant wrote: Let's be real here for a second. If you start playing the game on a scumteam with Vivax and Sandroba you know immediately that you can't townread them ever and will probably have to bus them sooner rather than later. sandroba used to be good though from what I remember. I wonder when his play dropped in quality so much. | ||
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On May 02 2015 23:42 indignant wrote: Koshi was honorary mafiateam member that's for sure. lol | ||
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Then he seems like really easy to read... Maybe he's good enough as town to make up for it then. | ||
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On May 02 2015 14:34 Inspector Javert wrote: Let me fight I have like a billion HP. Hm yeah this was pretty weird. | ||
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On May 03 2015 00:15 indignant wrote: Why? Scared of the 1 extra damage? OR scared of the check? | ||
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On May 03 2015 00:12 Holyflare wrote: ahhh that might be why xata took so much dmg :O You mean the apparent 3 damage from Javert? | ||
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On May 03 2015 02:16 Chezinu wrote: My first roleclaim was the truest roleclaim. I proved that I cannot punch. I have yet to successfully deliver a package or recruit someone. I JUST WANT TO DO IT EVEN IF IT MEANS MY DEATH. SO I WILL VISIT HF TONIGHT!!!! MAFIA DONT STOP ME!!! TOWN DONT STOP ME!!! OTHER 3P DONT STOP ME!!!! It will be the death of me, but the package is worth it. The package is truly worth it!!!! | ||
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On May 03 2015 05:20 rsoultin wrote: -shrugs- he's claimed so many things lol >< but the 3p thing fits my impression of him if that helps? To be honest I have no idea how to read him. He could probably just as well play like that as town or scum. Once I think I was in a scumteam with him and he just claimed random things all game. I also watched some video Mafia game once and he had a mask on to make him impossible to read (ROFL!). | ||
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On May 03 2015 05:24 indignant wrote: Was that the game those assholes lynched him day1? I think he was policy lynched yeah. Not sure if it was D1. | ||
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On May 03 2015 05:21 Xatalos wrote: As funny as it is, I think the card thingy makes Damdred, rsoultin and OWS (very slightly) more townie. Or at least they likely didn't deliver the damage that killed marv. -> This of course only applies if Chezinu is town/3P. | ||
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On May 04 2015 01:30 Holyflare wrote: right well, do we know if mafia kp is actually delivered or not? don't think it says so in op I think it's almost certainly delivered because FF visited two people and his role only suggests that his ability is to visit one person. | ||
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Dunno why? | ||
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On May 04 2015 11:32 sicklucker wrote: 30 hp is insane.. I doubt any town has that maybe a mafia Role name Javert? It's a bit weird to have more HP than the resilient main character, but I'd like to see the character. | ||
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That must have hurt. I think there's probably still 2 scum left though so I assume sicklucker was joking. Besides, it'd be weird for him to forget the confirmed existence of 3rd parties when they have the scumQT etc. | ||
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On May 04 2015 13:42 yamato77 wrote: e z game. You mean it's easy to lunch you? | ||
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I don't know Kev | ||
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On May 05 2015 07:13 Half the Sky wrote: Commentator Announcement Batsnacks is the greatest! All hail Batsnacks! Care to explain this? | ||
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Btw I didn't use the counter ability after all tonight. I trusted in the WIFOM and it rewarded me. Next night is the time to use it for real | ||
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On May 05 2015 07:21 Inspector Javert wrote: That's my ultimate ability. I get to make a 6 word announcement. :D HTS messed up the message though it was supposed to be "batsnacks is greatest! All hail batsnacks!" I didn't actually have enough words to include "the" That's it? | ||
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Because of your suspect behavior around sandroba's lynch and your claim being one of the more dubious ones. | ||
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On May 05 2015 07:31 sicklucker wrote: So hf was the third party? Maybe. Or a 3P made him disappear something? I really wonder what happened to him. I guess it makes most sense if he fulfilled his win condition or something along those lines. | ||
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On May 05 2015 07:34 Inspector Javert wrote: My suspect behavior around sandroba's lynch? I voted yamato d1... o.0 And how is my claim dubious at all I am confirmed telling the truth about 1 of my 2 abilities and I would never lie about the other ability and then put town in a position to easily prove me wrong like I did d2. I explained it earlier and even marv agreed with the mini-case. However it's not conclusive, there are also arguments for you being town. Btw wait... You used your damage thing on me D1? When was the damage dealt to me actually? | ||
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On May 05 2015 07:35 LightningStrike wrote: Well if you didn't see I took 1 damage. Slightly weird. | ||
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On May 05 2015 07:41 Inspector Javert wrote: I explained this to you before I haven't been responsible for any damage caused to anyone in this game. n1 I picked you and marv for the amateur fight for d2. Marv was picked for the main fight d2 so the amateur fight was canceled. n2 I picked vivax and sepu for the amateur fight d3. Sepu was picked for the main fight d3 so the amateur fight was canceled. If one of my fighters gets chosen for the main fight then the amateur fight is canceled. One of my fighters was chosen for the main fight both days. OK I didn't follow the role talk earlier too closely. Thanks for the clarification. | ||
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As for the fight... Maybe Chezinu? He's had zero interest so far as well. Could easily be scum or 3P. Not sure on the second one yet. | ||
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On May 05 2015 07:51 yamato77 wrote: why am I mafia again? Are you complaining about rolling scum? That's how I read it first hahaha | ||
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On May 05 2015 07:51 indignant wrote: Annoying. I took 0 damage it seems. And how people conclude that HF disappearing means he is/was 3p is beyond me. If a 3p reaches his win condition what usually happens is that this is mentioned in the daypost and he is flipped like everyone else. My conclusion is either there is some rolestuff going on and disappearing does not equal dying which would be supported by the fact that there was an extra announcement for this or that he got janitored in some way. Why is not taking damage annoying btw? Dunno about HF really. | ||
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Not really sicklucker either... Or myself or indignant. Not sure about Damdred and Javert atm. Maybe Chezinu+OWS would be okay for the fight.... hm | ||
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Why not into Stutters, LightningStrike and Damdred as well I guess. | ||
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Not to mention that I'm not even sure what's scummy about the post? Yamato had clearly not been following the game so I just gave him the filters of the 3 most interesting/suspicious players followed by 3 people in the nullish category. You can ignore the latter players if you will. | ||
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On May 05 2015 14:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yamato has more going for him than I do at this juncture tbh. This was a nice post if you're scum >.> Who has less going for him than you then? | ||
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On May 05 2015 13:07 LightningStrike wrote: Well if Yamato is town Xata is likely town since he got hit by a shit ton of kp early on stutters would be my only real scumread I had listed my reasons why he was scum in my filter. Also the roleblock stuff still kinda confusing regarding rsoultin Night 2 but it's possible that there is a jailkeeper like role for town and used it on rsoultin Night 2. How is my alignment related to yamato's btw? | ||
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On May 05 2015 10:49 Damdred wrote: Ignore my posts about dmg. I'm just trying to think outloud just going to read filters. Damdred Jat Breshke Xata Obi Sl/LS Bats Yamato Chez(?) Is where I'm at now, going to try to reread the game a bit to see anything. Or at least d1. Reasonably close to my thoughts. Why are OWS and Breshke so relatively high though? | ||
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On May 05 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Btw Damdred, I think I know what you're talking about in regards to Xatalos being a deep mafia. You were referencing the post where he told yamato to look at way too many people, yes? Another one... Still don't get this argument. | ||
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On April 28 2015 06:59 Half the Sky wrote: Day 1 Vote Count sandroba (9): yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, Breshke (2): Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast Holyflare (0): rsoultin (1): Sepulchre (0): LightningStrike (0): Vivax (0): marvellosity (0): Koshi (0): sicklucker (0): Xatalos (0): Not voted (2): rygart, Damdred, Given the current vote count, sandroba is most likely to be knocked out. The voting thread is located here. Countdown: | ||
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In any case I'm fine with the Yamato lynch. It's also true that it would shine some new light on the events of D1, more so than any other flip actually. | ||
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On May 06 2015 00:15 Damdred wrote: I think someone asked me why breshke is so high up, I think its very likely Jean checked him. And his play while uninspiring I don't see a lot of scum motivation in it at this point Higher than me for those reasons, really? >.> My feelings are hurt. | ||
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On May 05 2015 22:59 indignant wrote: I hate that we are doing the work right now because today is the day all those lazy fuckers should step it up. No excuse not to anymore. So, about that votecount: It is not correct. I was the last one to vote sandro. Jean and damdred both voted before me. FF also voted yamato at some point btw. Regardless, what does it tell us? Well, it is only relevant if yamato is town. Which is cool because if yamato doesn't play today we just lynch him and know. So, let's assume yamato is town. I will also assume without doublechecking that scum knew that at this point in time or earlier the votes weren't actually 9:6 but like 7: 7 or 7:8 depending on the hidden vote/sandros other abilities. So there was hope for sandro since they couldn't know if the townies left would vote yamato or sandro. So the votes of bats, Obi and Chez still look really really bad. BUT we also know now that Sep was town. So if scum wanted to save sandro they were probably waiting and looking if that really makes sense. -> off wagon people OR people who were on sandro early. Voting sandro late was a bad idea since a switch just can't be justified that well. Not to mention that at this point all late voters are basically confirmed town except for maybe damdred. sandroba (9): yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, Breshke (2): Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast Holyflare (0): rsoultin (1): Sepulchre (0): LightningStrike (0): Vivax (0): marvellosity (0): Koshi (0): sicklucker (0): Xatalos (0): Not voted (2): rygart, Damdred That's not very enlightening because it only leads to the same suspects we had either way. Chez voted off wagon, no real effort to figure out the game. Obi voted off wagon, actively tried to push the lynch away from sandroba multiple times. 2 really fucking suspicious reads on people that are now confirmed scum (sandro, Vivax). Relatively low effort. Bats voted the wrong wagon. Personally I think the timing is not as suspicious as it looks though. Play generally more or less in line with town meta. There is the argument about how his vote for yamato makes no sense considering that Vivax and marv were on the same wagon though. LS voted the wrong wagon. Could just be sheeping though. Don't know what to make of him. So, who could be scum on the sandro wagon? Xatalos: Really doubt it. You can start worrying if he survives like 3 more nights but otherwise this guy is town or at least not scum. SL: Was awfully certain about sandroba. Could be a bus - he does that day1 all the time. His strong push for sandro is generally more or less the thing that makes him townread. Did not put in any effort during the last days. Some other minor reasons to townread him though. Like making FF heal me. Stutters: Could be scum. Since sep was town his yolo play is really really scumfavored. Low effort too. Breshke: Probably greenchecked+cancelled the fight. Very low effort though and we still had no mafia role that fucks with copchecks flip even though there are tons of cops. Damdred: Confirmed rb at this point - sadly not confirmed town. Rbs night 1 are still very weird. Hammered sandro though. And marv said he had a strong townread on him/defended him multiple times which is the only reason I have been so lenient on him. I did not understand that read at the time at all. Either marv has some sort of godread on him or he same checked him with SL/Breshke. So, I think my conclusion is that at least for today I don't want to touch Xatalos, Damdred and Sicklucker. Maybe we let chez live for another day to see what's up with HF. The rest should step it up if they do not want to be part of the fight today. I mostly agree. Good point that Stutters play was really scum-favored since Sep was town (and HF probably still is lol). I'd point out that Marv was a parity cop - he couldn't have had any results in time before he died I think. | ||
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On May 06 2015 08:23 Damdred wrote: We won't be getting shinings check tonight because ehs on top of the player list when he died Here it is... How come? | ||
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On May 06 2015 08:29 Damdred wrote: N1: HF takes 6 damage (factional kp assumption) FF is tracked to Xatalos and Rsoultin (rolecheck possible on Rsoultin) Rsoultin is hit for 2 dmg and Roleblocked (Matches up to my ability and not Vivax roleblock) Xatalos is hit for 12 Dmg Indignant is hit for 12 dmg Marv is hit for 7 Dmg Vivax claims 2 dmg and roleblocked (Damdred claims this block) D2: Jat is healed by FF for an unspecified amount FF is flipped JAT takes 3 random dmg at eod N2: Rsoultin Is Roleblocked and takes 0 dmg (?) Sepu takes 2 dmg and Roleblock (Damdred claims dmg) Stutters redirects dmg from HF PGO to Sepu for 6-7 (?) HF claims dmg is missing. HF takes 8 dmg (Stutters claims) JAT receives 6 Dmg Breshke receives dmg Shining receives 6 dmg Marv receives 12 dmg (?) (Marv Dies) D3: Vivax is flipped roleblocker Sepu faints mysteriously Shining takes 3 dmg randomly eod N3: HF disappears from game Damdred takes 3 dmg Rsoultin takes at least 10 dmg (?) Shining takes at least 3 dmg Lightninstrike takes 1 dmg Yamato Roleblocked and takes 2 dmg Actually I take back what I said about stutters st this point I just got my spreadsheet and I think it partially clears him. I corrected it and put in the correct Marv dmg. I want to point something out though. N1- 5 Mafia Faction don N2- 4 Mafia Faction done N3- 2 Mafia Faction accounted for The pattern is off. We are either missing a mafia KP or we are missing a third party action. We should lynch Yamato today Hm so you assume that you roleblocked the factional KP that yamato was carrying... I guess it's plausible. This would mean that there's possibly still 3 scum left...? (3 scum KP overall) | ||
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yamato tends to roll over and die more likely as scum from my experience so there's that too. | ||
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So who wants to organize the fight? | ||
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On May 07 2015 07:30 Chezinu wrote: LOL You know the other mafia is apart of The Gym right? and? | ||
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On May 07 2015 07:33 Chezinu wrote: Logistics. Only one mafia gym member has fallen. It would be too town favored if that wasn't the case. Right....... Dunno if I really buy that argument. For all we know we could have 2+ more scum or several 3P. That's not really required as far as I can see. | ||
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On May 07 2015 07:40 indignant wrote: Same as always. If you want a fight vote me. HF seems a bit more likely to survive though :/ | ||
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Well there's time to decide anyways. Now good night | ||
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I guess that's fine. Just gotta hope you actually can survive the night :/ | ||
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On May 07 2015 23:38 Holyflare wrote: These ones, they look super weird, especially as all you're now using is posting activity to decide his alignment. The entire mafia team has been afk so obviously stutters inactivity could be explained by that but you skip right past it and say he's totes town for it instead. It's kind of a superficial read that looks like you wanted to blend into what people thought. Hm... Maybe. I remember doing a similar thing as scum once where I tried so hard to justify a townread that I just looked at one of his past games and made an (actually incorrect) conclusion from his filter. Nobody bothered to check if what I was saying was correct and it somehow made me look better all the same. | ||
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Actually just Half the Sky. | ||
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It's a game of lying after all | ||
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Has someone kept track of the different player positions? I'd like to see that pattern as well as if there are other patterns to be seen. | ||
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On May 08 2015 10:41 sicklucker wrote: chez is my roles best friend in the manga.Just like in this game! We are always going to be town with are other best friend already flipping mafia to stop mass claiming I really don't get why a name makes someone town/scum/3P. One of the biggest "good guys" already flipped scum. I don't think there's any reason to assume that more "good guy" scum flips can't happen, especially when town already has this many (named) roles... Seems only fair for the scumteam. Btw my name is Miyata Ichiro. If you've read the manga you probably know him | ||
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On May 08 2015 10:41 Damdred wrote: Honestly the people I would be ok with killing off are Obi Bats Stutters LS We can get two-three of those dead today. Then we have the next group of Xata and Breshke after that we lose, the rest of the game I have a solid reason to not want to lynch them completely. And yea xata you could very well be 3rd party at this juncture Pretty much. Although I'd replace you with my name there Still getting a small paranoia that HF could be 3P or something but he's certainly not an immediate worry. | ||
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On May 08 2015 10:50 Damdred wrote: Why don't we just kill obi in a fight it will let us lynch someone else to. Also your bio sounds more like a 3p than a good guy just by flavor haha Haha. Well I'd say he's a "good guy" in the story even though he's a rival for Ippo. Not that flavor matters all that much when Takamura already flipped scum. | ||
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On May 08 2015 11:45 sicklucker wrote: yes its a potential scum role tbh hes the main rival of the protaganist. But pretty much everyones a good guy in that show so im not sure. I expect your powers to be really strong tho. Have you ever fully explain them? in the manga hes known as a "counter puncher" so thats obviously your ability here But do you like not understand that of the 4 main character 1 has flipped scum? That means the other two remaining are almost certainly gonna be town because THEY ARE TOWN AND THERES NO REASON TO MAKE THEM NOT TOWN WHEN THEY ALREADY MADE 1 OF THEM A VILLIAN TO BALANCE IT. If nothing else aiko and my role are bascily two pees in a pod so they are likely to be the same role for that readon I think I already mostly explained it at some point. I'd rather not say the numbers since it would make life easier for scum/3P, but let's just say that I can choose to block all damage towards me and counter the attack for X damage for an amount of time... And this ability is somewhat restricted, but not very strictly. It boils down to me being quite difficult to kill unless I'm unlucky (which I have been since I didn't use the ability N1 and got attacked, then used it N2 and it failed... then N3 I didn't use it and wasn't attacked because I WIFOMed I was going to use it in the thread, and N4 I used it successfully). | ||
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On May 08 2015 22:35 indignant wrote: How the fuck do you know it wasn't mafia KP? I don't disbelieve you since I am the one who sent the ramen to you but the pm I got when I was healed was just a HP update. It said nothing about getting healed or what item was used. And don't even start flaming me for giving the ramen to you because there are severe limitations to this ability and its targets. If you are just talking about mafia I somewhat agree but basically anyone could be 3p. The only player I think is unlikely to be 3p is you because I don't really see why a 3p would be a rb but even that isn't impossible. HF could easily be 3p for example. I would be really surprised if the remaining mafia wasn't in the pool you named though with outside chances of Chezinu and Breshke. I still don't think bats is mafia (maybe I am wrong but it is what it is) and the nightactions don't indicate so either in my opinion. I probably took 6, HF says he took >4 and Xatalos also took an unknown amount. More than enough to not lynch bats today. I say we lynch either Obi (if we have doubts he will die in the fight) or Stutters today. Fight will probably be Obi vs. LS again unless someone shows me solid reasoning for something else and even then I will probably be sorta drunk and unavailable tonight so I might not even see it. Obi could also easily be 3p instead of scum btw. but it doesn't matter since we need to kill 3p anyways and he apparently does damage to town. I think we'll most likely win by lynching/damaging the people in that list, yeah. At least that's the place to start from. Perhaps we should just lynch OWS today (since he's pretty much the most likely scum at this point and basically gave up already) while damaging the others. Although I think Javert had a ton of HP or something so probably he shouldn't be fighting... | ||
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On May 09 2015 00:06 Breshke wrote: I really think we lunch stutters here especially if Zara countered h put on him because that means if Ls or obi is mafia they very very likely die from the fight How much damage has OWS taken so far? | ||
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In any case I'm fine with OWS too. Let's just make sure that he dies IMO. | ||
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sl/Damdred are probably town (Damdred for spending so much time trying to figure out stuff even now and sicklucker for being very open about his role etc. from early on, although he's somewhat disappeared in recent days :/) | ||
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On May 10 2015 07:13 Damdred wrote: Xata does the dmg done to you reflect 100% or does only a percentage get put back on the attacker It's a set amount of damage, not a percentage. | ||
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On May 10 2015 07:25 Damdred wrote: Is it greater than 4 but not 6 No. | ||
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I guess we can also decide not to organize a fight? So if need be that can also be secured. | ||
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Probably town: Damdred Breshke (Really liked their more recent posts especially) Probably not scum but could be 3P: HF (would have bussed hard otherwise) Scum/3P: Javert (still the weird 3 damage thing, weird behaviour around D1 lynch etc.) Chezinu (no idea, but yeah process of elimination...) | ||
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On May 10 2015 17:50 sicklucker wrote: Xata how can you not have me as town here. Was slightly disturbed by you saying stuff like me being scum despite it being, frankly, basically disproven so many times already. What keeps you from at least going below null/townie-leaning is your openness with your role from early on. Could have just kept it hidden if you were anti-town | ||
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On May 10 2015 18:44 Breshke wrote: Xata how did you wifom them not to attack you N3, I don't remember that On May 02 2015 08:45 Xatalos wrote: I could have use for the damage thingy. My ability is basically this: I have an X amount of charges to have an X percentage chance of dealing a great amount of damage to whoever attacks me + blocking the attack. I didn't use it N1 (didn't imagine I'd be a priority target), used it N2 (but it failed) and I'm going to use it again tonight. If I get the damage thingy, it's more likely that the potential attacker dies. It's fine even if I'm not attacked too. It just means I get to live until tomorrow. Didn't use it N3 though Hehe | ||
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I guess you can cancel it anyway if you like. Better to have two people responsible for the participants rather than just one? | ||
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Who is this mysterious "last mafia"? | ||
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Javert seems like the better choice simply because he's done genuinely scummy things like resisting to lynch sandroba/yamato and finally ending on yamato (probably the lesser loss for the scumteam). I think he's almost certainly the remaining scum. The 3P is most likely Chezinu or HF but I'd rather just lynch Javert - a better chance for reducing KP and just avoiding a loss. | ||
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*Maybe* I could consider Chezinu instead....... It's just I have 0% idea how to read him so it'd be basically an RNG lynch (with some help from process of elimination). | ||
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On May 12 2015 00:42 Inspector Javert wrote: He can't because I was rbed yesterday too. He can't just say the rb worked one day and then the rb didn't work the next day. But yeah maybe him taking damage does clear him I didn't actually read that before I voted him. It still doesn't make sense for him to scum read me after rbing me TWICE and knowing kp still got through both times. You being RB'd doesn't really clear you IMO. Honestly it'd feel a bit too harsh on scum if their only remaining member was RB'd and no KP went through. Like... An RBer would act as a Cop+RBer then and we already had many, many cops. | ||
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On May 12 2015 00:43 Xatalos wrote: About the RB thing... I think it's not good to not-push Javert just because RB'ing him hasn't apparently caused disruptions in KP delivery. It could well be that scum RB can't be interrupted when they're few enough in numbers, or he has an ability not to be interrupted when delivering KP? I guess it makes it slightly less likely for him to be scum but still the most likely out of anyone. *Maybe* I could consider Chezinu instead....... It's just I have 0% idea how to read him so it'd be basically an RNG lynch (with some help from process of elimination). | ||
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Breshke... I've kind of liked his posting in recent days. I'll check what you wrote on him, might have missed something. | ||
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On May 11 2015 09:55 Chezinu wrote: Dear everybodies, You all know that everyone would be glad if I won the game as 3P versus anyone else here. That is why Chez should live. It is best to lose against Chez than any other 3P. The second best 3P to lose against is HF. That is why he should live, cause fun! SL died... He never got the bucket of water.. since he was modkilled... no one has the towel now... ... I think Chezinu just needs a policy lynch though. It's too bad we don't have a Vigi. | ||
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On May 10 2015 15:41 Breshke wrote: Okay so i think this is where im going to be starting. Inspector Javert - Could be scum/3p Chezinu - Could be scum/3p sicklucker - Could be 3p, I don't really think it is possible for him to be scum because looking at his herbs list I don't see how if he was scum he wouldn't jsut give them all to scummates since he already gave one to FF. I say he could be thrid party but it seems kind of out there since he obviously has this present giving like ability so if he is just meant to outlast everyone I don't see how we would ever catch him like ehh very very likely town. Holyflare - could be 3p. something doesn't really add up for his early play when he first wanted fight prometer and said he would trade one for one with mafia yet when stutters redirected the damage of his pgo thing it only came out to be like damage which HF would know there isn't enough to kill someone since he obviously has more than 8 hp himself since stutters hit him for 8. Xatalos - could be 3p. Scum go tracked to delivering kp to him which is like 99% sure so very very very unlikely he is scum. Damdred - TOWN. Has very very likely roleblocked scum KP multiple times dont really see how he could be 3p How are you even ment to catch 3p roles? I legit don't get it don't they just play the same as town. Like xata if he is third party either took a massive risk with mafia killing him because he has been townie most of the game but maybe he thought his ability would protect him enough idk whereas HF had his PGO dont target me thing which would be a good cover. So yeah TOWN Damdred SL Xata (3p?) HF(3p?) Scum/3p Bats Chez I don't even really have reasons for bats/chez being scum other than PoE. Hm... I think this is the post that made me think "probably town" at the time. I basically agreed with everything he said there. It's not just a listpost either, there's some nice analysis and conclusions in there. Only just Javert being scum only based on PoE... :/ Well to be honest that's a big part of why I think he's scum too. Another is his D1 behaviour and then there was maybe that weird 3 KP thing, not so sure about that argument though. | ||
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It's been a while so I might be confused on some timings. I guess it's not completely impossible for him to be "deep scum" playing very cleanly and even sacrificing his team's damage to make himself look better. I've done something like that myself before. It's just a matter of priorities. Would you want to gamble everything on that when we have people like Javert (doing scum-favored things and not really anything constructive that I can remember) or Chezinu (not doing anything and even hinting at being some sort of 3P)... | ||
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On May 12 2015 02:01 Half the Sky wrote: The latest votecount was an error on my part. It has been fixed (page 344). >.> | ||
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"I don't see how it's a gamble when he did those things on n1 and d2??? How on earth is he supposed to know what bats and chezinu are going to do in 3 or 4 cycles time??" | ||
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Currently still leaning towards lynching him. He might well be the one dealing the random small damages or something. | ||
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I'll go check the other game again and then to sleep. glhf | ||
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I still think Javert is the better lynch. He's confirmed to be scum/3P and I think it's pretty likely he's anti-town (as shown by his anti-town play, especially targeting townie posters with dmg and not wanting to lynch scum specifically at D1 deadline). Someone also said that it wouldn't make much sense to have a (at least purely) town-sided 3P. In all likelihood he's pro-scum (scum/3P) or alignment-neutral (SK/Survivor-type 3P). In both cases we want to lynch him now. There's also the fact that he only claimed when you said that a 3P claim could save him. It's not too far-fetched that he would take that chance as scum when the votes were piling on him. Breshke, on the other hand, *could* be scum/3P (still not sold on that) but there's at least a reasonable chance of him being town. Even you must see that. So I really just don't think we should lynch someone with a chance to be not-town when there's someone confirmed not-town with perhaps a small chance of being able to win with town. | ||
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On May 13 2015 02:16 Holyflare wrote: Well it could be damdred/chezinu and damdred just voted with me without reading the thread because i was on breshke last night? I guess it could be that as well... And Javert being scum-aligned 3P? | ||
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On May 13 2015 02:39 Holyflare wrote: Disregarding that obviously. Also, >.> Well vote Breshke quickly just to make sure it's not over? Plenty of time to change the vote if need be. | ||
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Frankly I don't see any town motivation for caring so little at this point, dropping of in effort all the way up to now and not even bothering to post when voting now. | ||
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On May 13 2015 03:01 Holyflare wrote: So what are your reasons that he has a decent chance at being town? Pretty much what I asked for dude. 1) Saving townies from quite a bit of damage (Occam's razor says a townie act) 2) Putting in a decent amount of effort especially later on when he should be demotivated because of his failure team as scum 3) I seriously doubt there's more than 2 or 3 anti-town players left and if Breshke is one of them, I have a hard time saying that there's 1 or 2 town among Javert, Chezinu and Damdred | ||
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On May 13 2015 03:53 Damdred wrote: If you call me scum you HAVE to explain why mafia only claimed rb and didn't rb any besides rsoultin. That's insane, and bats is still claiming rb. So s um has 3 rb and only one gets used a night? Maybe 2 on the night Sep gets hit? I don't really understand what you're saying there? In any case I think that nobody else claiming receiving much KP last night points to you being town. Quite heavily in fact. You should catch up with the game etc. soon though. Do you really want to lynch Breshke over confirmed not-town who clearly doesn't care about finding scum and in fact has actively played against town? | ||
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On May 13 2015 04:30 Inspector Javert wrote: I hope this isn't directed at me I've town sided the entire game and I definitely care about finding scum. ... | ||
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On May 13 2015 04:47 Holyflare wrote: We also probably all need to vote together btw. Hm? | ||
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On May 13 2015 04:52 Inspector Javert wrote: Are you serious brother? How many times have I said it I have not damaged a single person this game. I voted on EVERY mafia wagon except Sandro because I was busy voting the other mafia yamato. I anti-pushed scum to push a different scum. Why do you need to lie? Well *trying* to damage town at least. And quite likely you actually have. It's not really a feat to vote for every scum when everyone has voted for them. In hindsight your D1 behaviour isn't as bad as it seemed back then, but it's still weird at best and could easily be distancing since you voted for Vivax when nobody else really voted for him (possible future towncred + a vote away from sandroba). | ||
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On May 13 2015 04:54 Damdred wrote: Just vote breshke Are you sure? | ||
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On May 13 2015 05:25 Damdred wrote: Xata if you are town vote with me on breshke I'm dying tonight no matter what. I'm a bit torn, mostly because Javert has been talking so actively lately and Breshke hasn't. It's just hard to accept not lynching a confirmed not-town. In SC2 Mafia Survivor was the most common fake claim for Mafia/SK so it almost always paid off to lynch those claims. | ||
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On May 13 2015 06:34 Breshke wrote: He claimed 3p which can win with town Even if he could, it doesn't mean he would. | ||
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Btw scum I still have a charge left. I'd advise you not to attack me tonight. For the benefit of us both. Or if you just want to die... go ahead I guess. | ||
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On May 13 2015 15:16 Breshke wrote: Xata this is important your ability does it say when you are damaged or when you are punched. (idc if you think this is role fishing I have a followup) What's important about it? I think I already said that I received a message along the lines of "you blocked a punch and countered" earlier. | ||
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On May 14 2015 04:33 Holyflare wrote: So you're telling me you made your decision on breshke and ignored everything we wrote? No way. Absolutely no way. Lynch this guy I mean what you just wrote, not yesterday. | ||
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On May 14 2015 07:50 Holyflare wrote: Rb'd breshke duh How do you know? Guessing? | ||
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On May 14 2015 08:38 Breshke wrote: Yep I don't deny that. Look at the damage I assume you've been doing each night. Then lool at the remaining abilities and the fact that I was probably green checked this game. The amount of stuff is have to be able to do is rediculous Maybe you could have some sort of a factional pool of abilities to draw from...? Well it's a bit much regardless.. | ||
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On May 14 2015 08:53 Holyflare wrote: Xata what do your powers actually do? Basically I have a KP that also deals damage over time, and I can move around the playerlist dealing varying amounts of smaller damage. I also have an ability to counter punch like I described (successfully used once) and the same ability also applies to any fights I enter in the following day. I also have a ton of HP. | ||
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On May 14 2015 08:59 Holyflare wrote: Then we still lynch breshke then you don't kill me and we lynch chezinu and we all win? Would you really guarantee that you'd lynch Chezinu over me? It feels a bit risky to be honest. | ||
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On May 14 2015 08:59 Breshke wrote: Xata did you change the fight D2? HF you obviously wouldn't need fight changing abilities since YOU were the fight promoter so you could have just chosen whatever you wanted. Nope. | ||
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On May 14 2015 09:07 Holyflare wrote: You either kill me and potentially lose or don't kill me and potentially win? Honestly I have a hard time imagining a scenario where you'd prefer to lynch Chezinu instead. Then again it's not as hard to imagine a scenario where you die and Chezinu is town. | ||
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On May 14 2015 09:07 Breshke wrote: Xata did you do 2 damage to me last night? Yeah I think so. | ||
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On May 14 2015 09:09 Holyflare wrote: Well I'll help you win then. That's an insane win con and i don't honestly care about +1ing peoples loss stats for all their modkill shit if you're lying. How much damage has Chezinu taken so far by the way, any idea? | ||
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On May 14 2015 09:14 Holyflare wrote: Half tempted to let breshke win for actually putting in effort as mafia Well if you want to punish town then you could always lynch Chezinu, leaving me and Breshke with a double victory? | ||
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On May 14 2015 09:11 Holyflare wrote: Nah i can't actually die though i have a similar ability to you. How have you taken so much dmg then though... | ||
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On May 14 2015 09:21 Chezinu wrote: So are we all going to vote for HF to switching those fight? + Show Spoiler + just kidding, I have no idea what happened every night, or the changes in the playerlist, or anything of such matters. I just read random bits... HF, you can use your ability tonight after the vote, right? If so, do it. Me and You at the end right? Are you really sure you don't have the same win condition as me? | ||
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On May 14 2015 09:34 Holyflare wrote: Ok we lynch breshke and then i kill xata and win and die with chez+town victory. I see. Kill me? | ||
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And what do you mean "die with chez+town victory"? | ||
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In fact I'm town. | ||
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Unless even you're 3P hahahahahahaha | ||
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On May 14 2015 09:56 Breshke wrote: HF if youre scum I want some coaching ^ | ||
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On May 14 2015 10:21 Holyflare wrote: Xat just keep vote on breshke. I choose you. :O | ||
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Can't believe town lost this game | ||
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Choose the dodge/counter ability Punch Chezinu Wild Swing above Chezinu, then return to original position ##Vote to end the night immediately once everyone has agreed to it | ||
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sorry | ||
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Getting semi-cleared by The Shining, several townies getting modkilled... | ||
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Could have just fakeclaimed Cop or something... | ||
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"Your current HP is 5" You had so much HP | ||
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You could consider them semi-modkilled hahaha | ||
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On May 15 2015 23:08 sicklucker wrote: Disaster No, it was perfect | ||
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All in all, my optimal play was probably to attack you there? But I guess it worked out fine since neither attacked :D | ||
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