Aperture Mafia 4: This Time it's Personal - Page 4

On March 30 2015 06:58 Onegu wrote:


Why the hell would she ignore slam at this point?

On March 30 2015 06:59 Hapahauli wrote:


I've played enough games with BH to realize that his openers aren't always serious and are rarely alignment indicative.

On March 30 2015 07:03 VisceraEyes wrote:

Why don't you tell us? Aren't you the one with the guy on speeddial?

On October 20 2013 14:57 Blazinghand wrote:
don't lynch me

On October 20 2013 07:25 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah not having read the thread at all I think I can comfortably vote mocsta unless he's also an innocent townie somehow

##vote mocsta

On October 20 2013 15:09 Blazinghand wrote:
man that would require having read the thread. it's like my birthday a couple days ago and today I like went and hung out with my dad. I don't even know who's like in my house or who got shot or who even signed up for this game, i literally have not read thread.

On May 16 2014 09:41 Blazinghand wrote:
Sorry I'm actually like at dinner but after dinner I'll read. I don't see any reason to read things other than the filters of the other 2 mccains though since the last scum must be amongst us

On May 16 2014 14:33 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah same here. I might as well vote for posterity sake

##vote dicksmashcockguy

On May 17 2014 06:22 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah i haven't read anything thrawn cause the game is solved, I don't see why I need to? 3 blue claims, 3 lynches, scum is in the blue claims. is there any reason I need to be reading here?

On August 28 2014 10:49 Blazinghand wrote:
I haven't read the thread, because none of you worms are close enough to my level to merit my attention, and today is a lynch day.

On August 30 2014 02:55 Blazinghand wrote:
I have no illusions about whether or not I'm getting lynched. I don't have time to defend myself, so I'm getting lynched today, mostly becasue all you guys are too umad about how much I beat you at mafia to play a reasonable game. Ah well! You can apologize to me in post game

On August 30 2014 06:02 Blazinghand wrote:
dude i'm not reading 40 damn pages of posts, i'm at work. the only reason I could use the scanner is cause i'm the IT guy so I won't give myself crap for using it

On October 08 2014 01:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Hi guys, I've returned to the thread. I'm currently catching up, but I took a moment to observe that OO still hasn't posted anything of note, or anything at all really since I last mentioned him. This kind of lethargy and uninterest is not too uncommon for scum players, and might even be a scumtell for OO (someone earlier said that OO's meta as scum is to do nothing and be uninterested). Those of you who want me to formulate a case against OO, allow me to show you the entirety of his filter:








aaaand that's literally everything this guy has posted.

Surely everyone agrees with me here that someone like this can't possibly be allowed to live. Anyone complaining that people voting for an RNG target are opting out of the discourse, look at OO's filter and tell me with a straight face that he isn't also opting out of the discourse.

In any case, let me know if you guys have any questions or anything you want me to focus on as I catch up.

On October 08 2014 02:57 Blazinghand wrote:
Ok, I'm pretty much caught up on the thread, and it looks like there was some good action between hf/obi and storr/lian for me to check out. Before I dig in, I'd like to reaffirm my confidence that OO is the best lynch today.




Sure!

I like some of storr's case on lian. I agree that lian hasn't taken strong enough positions, and seems to have attempted to do weird things on the OO wagon. That being said, the fact that he and KSC are dubious of RNG does not imo make them scummy. I think Storr's case would make for something interesting to follow up on after the OO lynch. I don't want to draw associative tells between unflipped players, but basically I don't find doubting RNG to be inherently unreasonable. Trying to throw lots of doubt on it, then saying that "rng is a method for scum to be using", seems to be something a new player could reasonably believe. If OO flips mafia scum, I'll be much more suspicious of lian.

I think storr raises a good point that lian doesn't have aggressive reads. An important post to focus on is this one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=28#544



Basically, KSC asks Lian, "what are you scumreads", which is a reasonable question (KSC gets some points for this). Lian's reply is a rambling list post that doesn't have a cohesive read to unify it, or a case. Storrzerg accurate points out that the post doesn't specify a top scumread very well. Storrzerg says it already, so I won't bother repeating:



The main point is that it was an awful list post. Yeah, this is good stuff. I like the storrzerg case. It's reasonable and liancourt doesn't look good. If I weren't so sure on this OO thing I'd consider voting liancourt. As it stands, I think we can deal with liancourt tomorrow.

I'm gonna not focus on KSC for a moment except to say:



When OO flips scum you can apologize to me for ever doubting RNG.

---

I realize things got a bit rambly there so I'll summarize real quick

1. I still think OO is the best lynch, as I've outlined.
1.5. I think it's pretty clear OO is doing some kind of lurk / low energy thing this game. We can anticipate him coming back sometime near the end of the day and claiming he was busy or something.
2. Storrzerg's case on liancourt points out liancourt's very scummy response to "what are your scumreads", making me interested in lynching liancourt tomorrow

On November 01 2014 09:06 Blazinghand wrote:
Ok I won't actually have time to make a real case between now and 2 hours from now when I promised I'd vote by. Some dinner issues came up. However, as the best player here I still have an obligation to lead town to victory, so I will lead, as I always do.

It seems clear to me that it's time for an RNG lynch.

So here's what happens

1) you all will follow me since I'm the best player here

2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 9. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. Basically, in addition to a "what post in this thread" post ID, each post has a unique sitewide id # that's increasing so quickly because of TL traffic, I can use it to RNG effectively.

I've done this before. It works. If you don't know what "modulo" means or how my rng lynch works after this explantion, you are not mathematically and educationally qualified to claim that this lynch is not RNG. In the past game, this has lynched scum 100% of the time and it caused town to basically win. You can't deny RNG.



In this case,
1 = OWS
2 = LT

etc etc all the way up to

16 = HF
0 = JB

(since a multiple of 14 modulo 14 is 0, not 14).

+ Show Spoiler [player list] +

there is no force on earth that can persuade me that RNG lynch is sub-optimal. bow before the RNG lynch. behold its glory and its horror and all of its majesty

On November 02 2014 07:07 Blazinghand wrote:


The whole point or RNG, GB, is that I don't have control over who is lynched. Nobody does. It's RNG. If it was "I'm gonna use RNG, but only follow up on it if the guy is a lurker", that wouldn't be RNG, that would be "BH likes to talk about RNG but when the chips are down he folds" and I am not a guy who folds when the chips are down. I take RNG seriously, and yes, sometimes RNG lands on an active scum instead of a passive scum. That doesn't make it less valid.



Fair enough. Look at how GB has responded to RNG this game. Most people who don't like RNG just dismiss it, or call it bad (which eventually, it seeems he did). What GB isntead has done has said it was "disruptive" somehow (even though basically i was the only one voting along those lines) and responded with a counterattack against me. Is this how a town player, one who is familiar with RNG, would react? Why not just call RNG bad? Why not just call me scum for using RNG? Why call attention to the fact that RNG is disruptive to the town discourse, or say that it's unusually bad becuase it landed on him? This is not how my thought process would go if I were RNGed as town and I think it shows us that GB is scum.



Eh, I wasn't really planning to do it, but it turned out I had to go to dinner and didn't have enough time to do any other voting strategy or do a bigger analysis of the thread. I'm 100% sure I already said this. Didn' you read my filter?



Explain?

On March 30 2015 07:01 Half the Sky wrote:
I am assuming you've had more exposure to him as a player than I have had in my scant two games alongside him.

On March 30 2015 07:34 Alakaslam wrote:
Nobody is being the good senpai.

I said it as well as I can already.

The one who lynches BH will DIE FIRST

Then

I will DIE LATER unless protected.

I SAY IT IS MORE IMPORTANT NOT LOSING THE WARRIOR?!?!? BUT YOU PPL DONT CARE

On March 30 2015 07:39 Hapahauli wrote:
In regard to BH... Slam can you just claim? Non-cryptically?

How would you know about BH's powers?

On March 30 2015 07:49 Blazinghand wrote:


so specifically mine is a mild rolecop (returns category of power, like healing, killing, roleblocking, etc) and is linked to 2 otehr roles in the game, Sherlock and Morioarity. All 3 of us recieve each other's checks, but NOT each other's targets. I'm not sure if they're ALSO rolecops, or what. My guess is Sherlock is an alignment cop or a name cop so that our powers can work together if we get into PMs together.

My checking is compulsive, since ther esults go to all 3 of us. I can choose to not get my own result back, and instead learn who someone's target was. So normally I get this:

My own result
Sherl's result
Mor's result

I can choose to get this:

Sher's result
Mor''s result
who either sherl or mor targeted

and i don't see what my own result was

On March 30 2015 07:51 Holyflare wrote:


please prove to me how my post is wrong and how it is a cop out, he'd love to afk as mafia under a claim, he's done it before

On December 11 2012 09:05 kitaman27 wrote:
lol wb Toad.

Also, I've got a new toy!

On March 30 2015 05:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Remove Kita, he masoned HF instead of someone he can read.

On March 30 2015 08:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
For the record any PMs sent to me in the night will be summarily ignored.

On March 30 2015 07:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Sigh. Sickulcker seems like such a cop-out vote. I don't see how an anti-town 3rd party is claiming in his situation.

On March 30 2015 07:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Regardless, I don't think you're being lynched. HF has a good point about sicklucker.

On March 30 2015 07:57 Hapahauli wrote:
I'll let HF do his thing with sicklucker. I think my vote pushed him to #1.

On March 30 2015 07:26 Holyflare wrote:
a lynch on sl is a lynch on guaranteed not town!

On March 30 2015 23:32 Holyflare wrote:
+i had reason™ to think that sl wasn't a vet and it turns out he wasn't and he was a filthy liar anyway

On March 30 2015 07:40 Blazinghand wrote:
OK WAIT I'M DETECTIVE LESTRAD

the way my role works is that I have to submit a night actione very night and I get a generalized rolecheck like "kill power" or "healing" or "roleblocking"

there are 2 other players, sherlock and moriorarirty. we all recieve each other's results but not who each other targeted. Also, nto sure if the others have this power, but I can follow one of them to see who they targeted since I can assign the cops under me to do it

seems fairly clear to me. Slam is probably sherlock "sure looks" remember and realized what I was

On March 30 2015 23:40 batsnacks wrote:
Wait kita didn't you say that you said I was suspicious and that HF agreed with you early?