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On October 07 2014 16:25 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 16:22 liancourt wrote:On October 07 2014 11:05 Alakaslam wrote:
I have seen this same dumb shut storm in 5 games already.
3 in which I played.
Liancourt I now know, you are not a smurf. Care to elaborate? Yup won't take long BH is BH and this is what he does. Most effective policy if you disagree is to ignore him; if you haven't learned this you haven't read much of him If you haven't read much of him you have not been here long.
So you're saying the same thing as obi essentially. I don't want this issue of my being not here long a factor in this game. And I'm trying not to consider past games as the players themselves very well know what they usually do so I don't think it's of consequence.
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On October 07 2014 17:04 KelsierSC wrote:
Lian who are your mafia at the moment?
You said people were overreacting and iffy but do you have any people you would lynch right now?
At first I was thinking of BH because of his RNG but then obi and slam says it's his original playstyle so I'm a bit reluctant to think of him as scum and BH's posts seem legit also.
Then there's grack who voted for OO. Following a random vote in my eyes is pretty scummy to me, but then he switched votes so I'm back to null.
And then you have obi and HF. HF does have valid points and I think obi is just voting HF just because HF is voting for him. In my eyes it's two townies fighting.
We have the overreacting oats I town read him earlier if i recall correctly due to his reactions in the earlier part of the thread.
The iffy hopeless, I haven't been paying attention to his posts for some reason so I need to see his filter. I'll come back on this.
Although I hate to admit it OO does seem strange the way he was reacting. It'd mean I'd have to vote for a random vote which I'm reluctant in doing so because it'd go against my principles.
Bats the trapper seems pretty townie to me deducing from his earlier interactions with oats.
I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing.
Lastly there's you, I also need to look at your filter so I'll comeback on this.
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On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 17:04 KelsierSC wrote:
Lian who are your mafia at the moment?
You said people were overreacting and iffy but do you have any people you would lynch right now? At first I was thinking of BH because of his RNG but then obi and slam says it's his original playstyle so I'm a bit reluctant to think of him as scum and BH's posts seem legit also. Then there's grack who voted for OO. Following a random vote in my eyes is pretty scummy to me, but then he switched votes so I'm back to null. And then you have obi and HF. HF does have valid points and I think obi is just voting HF just because HF is voting for him. In my eyes it's two townies fighting. We have the overreacting oats I town read him earlier if i recall correctly due to his reactions in the earlier part of the thread. The iffy hopeless, I haven't been paying attention to his posts for some reason so I need to see his filter. I'll come back on this. Although I hate to admit it OO does seem strange the way he was reacting. It'd mean I'd have to vote for a random vote which I'm reluctant in doing so because it'd go against my principles. Bats the trapper seems pretty townie to me deducing from his earlier interactions with oats. I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing. Lastly there's you, I also need to look at your filter so I'll comeback on this.
Think I agree with you on most of this apart from Grack who I think is town rather than null/scum
What do you mean by BH post's seem legit?
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On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote:
I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing.
So I don't really like this point actually. Firstly I give Damd a town read, like I remember his playstyle from last game and he is acting exactly the same when he was town. Also saying storr hasn't done anything isn't true, I have a memory of him pressuring you actually.
But like I don't really agree with the 3 people who aren't talking are the scum. In your reads through everyone is "iffy" or "strange" and you want to lynch the people not talking.
Why is storr or Damd a better lynch than OO for example?
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On October 07 2014 18:11 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote:On October 07 2014 17:04 KelsierSC wrote:
Lian who are your mafia at the moment?
You said people were overreacting and iffy but do you have any people you would lynch right now? At first I was thinking of BH because of his RNG but then obi and slam says it's his original playstyle so I'm a bit reluctant to think of him as scum and BH's posts seem legit also. Then there's grack who voted for OO. Following a random vote in my eyes is pretty scummy to me, but then he switched votes so I'm back to null. And then you have obi and HF. HF does have valid points and I think obi is just voting HF just because HF is voting for him. In my eyes it's two townies fighting. We have the overreacting oats I town read him earlier if i recall correctly due to his reactions in the earlier part of the thread. The iffy hopeless, I haven't been paying attention to his posts for some reason so I need to see his filter. I'll come back on this. Although I hate to admit it OO does seem strange the way he was reacting. It'd mean I'd have to vote for a random vote which I'm reluctant in doing so because it'd go against my principles. Bats the trapper seems pretty townie to me deducing from his earlier interactions with oats. I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing. Lastly there's you, I also need to look at your filter so I'll comeback on this. Think I agree with you on most of this apart from Grack who I think is town rather than null/scum What do you mean by BH post's seem legit?
meaning it seems genuine and townie. It looked like he was actually trying to do something instead of post fluff.
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On October 07 2014 18:19 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 18:11 KelsierSC wrote:On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote:On October 07 2014 17:04 KelsierSC wrote:
Lian who are your mafia at the moment?
You said people were overreacting and iffy but do you have any people you would lynch right now? At first I was thinking of BH because of his RNG but then obi and slam says it's his original playstyle so I'm a bit reluctant to think of him as scum and BH's posts seem legit also. Then there's grack who voted for OO. Following a random vote in my eyes is pretty scummy to me, but then he switched votes so I'm back to null. And then you have obi and HF. HF does have valid points and I think obi is just voting HF just because HF is voting for him. In my eyes it's two townies fighting. We have the overreacting oats I town read him earlier if i recall correctly due to his reactions in the earlier part of the thread. The iffy hopeless, I haven't been paying attention to his posts for some reason so I need to see his filter. I'll come back on this. Although I hate to admit it OO does seem strange the way he was reacting. It'd mean I'd have to vote for a random vote which I'm reluctant in doing so because it'd go against my principles. Bats the trapper seems pretty townie to me deducing from his earlier interactions with oats. I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing. Lastly there's you, I also need to look at your filter so I'll comeback on this. Think I agree with you on most of this apart from Grack who I think is town rather than null/scum What do you mean by BH post's seem legit? meaning it seems genuine and townie. It looked like he was actually trying to do something instead of post fluff.
To me it seemed like "RNG" "RNG" "Vote this guy" "you guys are all stupid not to vote my random person"
You seemed to be critical of it along with me so I really want to know what he was trying to do and what was townie about it.
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On October 07 2014 18:17 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote:
I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing.
So I don't really like this point actually. Firstly I give Damd a town read, like I remember his playstyle from last game and he is acting exactly the same when he was town. Also saying storr hasn't done anything isn't true, I have a memory of him pressuring you actually. But like I don't really agree with the 3 people who aren't talking are the scum. In your reads through everyone is "iffy" or "strange" and you want to lynch the people not talking. Why is storr or Damd a better lynch than OO for example?
See i don't like this "well last game blah blah blah..." I can't emphathize with you if you use this kind of logic. I'll have to read storr's filter then. So do we just leave the 2 people to keep not talking? I don't know about you but I lean more towards scum reading those who make excuses for their inactivity and what not than reading them as null. I guess you could say it's the same reasoning behind why I don't like randm voting. I can't get what they're thinking if they vote random or do nothing. Just makes me think they're low lying scum.
I don't think I ever said storr and damd were a better lynch than OO. I said I was reluctant on OO because it would mean following the random vote which I'm kinda against. I can still wait on more info on storr and damd before i make my final decison so it's ok.
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On October 07 2014 18:21 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 18:19 liancourt wrote:On October 07 2014 18:11 KelsierSC wrote:On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote:On October 07 2014 17:04 KelsierSC wrote:
Lian who are your mafia at the moment?
You said people were overreacting and iffy but do you have any people you would lynch right now? At first I was thinking of BH because of his RNG but then obi and slam says it's his original playstyle so I'm a bit reluctant to think of him as scum and BH's posts seem legit also. Then there's grack who voted for OO. Following a random vote in my eyes is pretty scummy to me, but then he switched votes so I'm back to null. And then you have obi and HF. HF does have valid points and I think obi is just voting HF just because HF is voting for him. In my eyes it's two townies fighting. We have the overreacting oats I town read him earlier if i recall correctly due to his reactions in the earlier part of the thread. The iffy hopeless, I haven't been paying attention to his posts for some reason so I need to see his filter. I'll come back on this. Although I hate to admit it OO does seem strange the way he was reacting. It'd mean I'd have to vote for a random vote which I'm reluctant in doing so because it'd go against my principles. Bats the trapper seems pretty townie to me deducing from his earlier interactions with oats. I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing. Lastly there's you, I also need to look at your filter so I'll comeback on this. Think I agree with you on most of this apart from Grack who I think is town rather than null/scum What do you mean by BH post's seem legit? meaning it seems genuine and townie. It looked like he was actually trying to do something instead of post fluff. To me it seemed like "RNG" "RNG" "Vote this guy" "you guys are all stupid not to vote my random person" You seemed to be critical of it along with me so I really want to know what he was trying to do and what was townie about it.
The RNG thing wasn't what made him townie, it was some of the other things he said let me find an example
On October 07 2014 03:26 Blazinghand wrote:
If you stop thinking about my RNG vote and look at OO's insta-delurk and weird response, suddenly you start to learn a lot more about OO, don't you. Dang! That sure was useful! It also turns out the thing you learned about OO is that he's pretty obviously scum. So vote him.
On October 07 2014 04:41 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 04:36 Grackaroni wrote:
BH you said you don't have an opinion on Oats post's. Do you have an opinion on HF's posts attacking Oat's posts? I do. I think HF's reasoning based on the VT claim shenannies are consistent with HF's reasoning as town. This reasoning is solid enough. The follow-up about "why are you in caps lock" isn't meaningful, but I think HF believes himself to be correct. Normally I'd find his attachment to that piece scummy but I really like the follow-up he posts right here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=14#268The attempt to leverage the current situation on OO by asking OO about Oats is a solid way to develop a read on both of them. This "continuance" piece is harder for scum to think of but fits well with a tunneled HF on Oats. Due to these reasons, I do not believe HF is a good lynch today.
He gave insight on some interesting stuff which I think is pro town.
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OK after reading your filter I agree that BH disrupted the discussion that was already going on and if i recall correctly I also said something like that any discussion whether it's productive or not is good as you can get info.
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On October 07 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 07 2014 16:42 KelsierSC wrote:On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Just to update on HF.
I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.
Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.
clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place. And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case. HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred. Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing. Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum. ##vote KelsierSC One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them. How is not having reads not scummy? And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT?? Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent. God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA" He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns.
HE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS HOLDING BACK READS OR FORMULATING THEM.
WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT?
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I think storr was obssessed with me being a smurf so he tunneled who knows. I need more from him than calling me out as smurf so I'll wait on this
On October 07 2014 09:30 StorrZerg wrote:
ill make a case on someone tonight or tomorrow morning i swear its going to be good
#prepthebadwagons
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On October 07 2014 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:On October 07 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 07 2014 16:42 KelsierSC wrote:On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Just to update on HF.
I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.
Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.
clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place. And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case. HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred. Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing. Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum. ##vote KelsierSC One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them. How is not having reads not scummy? And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT?? Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent. God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA" He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns. HE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS HOLDING BACK READS OR FORMULATING THEM. WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT?
I never assumed that, my point is that not giving your reads immediately doesn't make you scummy.
thanks for the all caps though it makes things really large
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On October 07 2014 18:34 liancourt wrote:
See i don't like this "well last game blah blah blah..." I can't emphathize with you if you use this kind of logic.
I use this logic if I have played with that person before.
I don't think I ever said storr and damd were a better lynch than OO. I said I was reluctant on OO because it would mean following the random vote which I'm kinda against. I can still wait on more info on storr and damd before i make my final decison so it's ok.
well what you said is that your 3 would be storr, damd and palmer.
Even though OO has been scummier and storr/damd have contributed more than him.
this means you would lynch storr/damd over OO by your reasoning right.
I don't know, I just think you don't want to vote OO just because it is a random vote but he is acting scummy as fuck and that is a good reason to lynch him over others. so using "oh it was random" at this point is kind of a weak defence. I would happily lynch OO right now tbh.
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On October 07 2014 12:27 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 12:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred/lion, mostly.
Opinions on them? goddman backspace key deleted my post lian has his head up his ass about BH's RNG stuff but is so pigheaded about it I think he's town. Damdred is scummy for saying oats makes his skin crawl, goading HF into voting oats, sitting on the sidelines for a bit then reneging on his (inconclusive..) oats-read. Recent BH/OO stuff is null.
So his read on me seems intresting, I took my head out of my arse and started listening to some of you guys mainly hope, obi and slam defending BH on this RNG business as his go to strat for every game.
If others also think like this that this is BH's usual strat then well I can't really say anything about it.
I do find the obi/hope interaction interesting and the fact the two of them defend BH is also intriguing but i need more info on hope to get any sort of idea so it's null atm.
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On October 07 2014 19:11 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 07 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:On October 07 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 07 2014 16:42 KelsierSC wrote:On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Just to update on HF.
I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.
Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.
clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place. And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case. HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred. Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing. Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum. ##vote KelsierSC One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them. How is not having reads not scummy? And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT?? Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent. God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA" He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns. HE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS HOLDING BACK READS OR FORMULATING THEM. WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT? I never assumed that, my point is that not giving your reads immediately doesn't make you scummy. thanks for the all caps though it makes things really large
so giving reads immediately is scummy?
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On October 07 2014 19:22 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 19:11 KelsierSC wrote:On October 07 2014 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 07 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:On October 07 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 07 2014 16:42 KelsierSC wrote:On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Just to update on HF.
I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.
Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.
clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place. And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case. HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred. Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing. Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum. ##vote KelsierSC One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them. How is not having reads not scummy? And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT?? Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent. God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA" He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns. HE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS HOLDING BACK READS OR FORMULATING THEM. WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT? I never assumed that, my point is that not giving your reads immediately doesn't make you scummy. thanks for the all caps though it makes things really large so giving reads immediately is scummy?
no not at all.
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On October 07 2014 19:22 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 19:11 KelsierSC wrote:On October 07 2014 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 07 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:On October 07 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 07 2014 16:42 KelsierSC wrote:On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Just to update on HF.
I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.
Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.
clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place. And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case. HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred. Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing. Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum. ##vote KelsierSC One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them. How is not having reads not scummy? And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT?? Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent. God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA" He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns. HE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS HOLDING BACK READS OR FORMULATING THEM. WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT? I never assumed that, my point is that not giving your reads immediately doesn't make you scummy. thanks for the all caps though it makes things really large so giving reads immediately is scummy?
It depends on the quality of the read and how it fits with the rest of the thread.
If the thread is in one direction and out of the blue you say "this random guy is mafia because i did an RNG" I think that is a bad read and a scummy thing to do imo.
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On October 07 2014 19:18 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 18:34 liancourt wrote:
See i don't like this "well last game blah blah blah..." I can't emphathize with you if you use this kind of logic.
I use this logic if I have played with that person before. Show nested quote +
I don't think I ever said storr and damd were a better lynch than OO. I said I was reluctant on OO because it would mean following the random vote which I'm kinda against. I can still wait on more info on storr and damd before i make my final decison so it's ok.
well what you said is that your 3 would be storr, damd and palmer. Even though OO has been scummier and storr/damd have contributed more than him. this means you would lynch storr/damd over OO by your reasoning right. I don't know, I just think you don't want to vote OO just because it is a random vote but he is acting scummy as fuck and that is a good reason to lynch him over others. so using "oh it was random" at this point is kind of a weak defence. I would happily lynch OO right now tbh.
Well you're right the only reason I don't want to vote OO is because it's random. But on the othe rhand I'm not making a defense on OO either. Although I've said following the random is scummy I think we've come to the point that OO's scuminess overrides my point of view.
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