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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 07 2014 10:29 GMT
#561
On October 07 2014 19:22 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 19:22 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:42 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Just to update on HF.

I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.

Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.

clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place.

And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case.
HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred.

Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing.

Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum.
##vote KelsierSC


One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them.

How is not having reads not scummy?
And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT??

Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent.


God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA"

He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns.

HE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS HOLDING BACK READS OR FORMULATING THEM.
WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT?



I never assumed that, my point is that not giving your reads immediately doesn't make you scummy.

thanks for the all caps though it makes things really large


so giving reads immediately is scummy?


no not at all.




then what does that double negative mean?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 07 2014 10:30 GMT
#562
On October 07 2014 19:29 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 19:22 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:22 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:42 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Just to update on HF.

I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.

Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.

clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place.

And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case.
HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred.

Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing.

Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum.
##vote KelsierSC


One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them.

How is not having reads not scummy?
And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT??

Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent.


God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA"

He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns.

HE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS HOLDING BACK READS OR FORMULATING THEM.
WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT?



I never assumed that, my point is that not giving your reads immediately doesn't make you scummy.

thanks for the all caps though it makes things really large


so giving reads immediately is scummy?


no not at all.




then what does that double negative mean?


it is not scummy to give a read immediately

it is not scummy to not give a read immediately.

It is more about the quality and relevance of the read.
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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 07 2014 10:32 GMT
#563
On October 07 2014 19:25 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 19:22 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:42 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Just to update on HF.

I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.

Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.

clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place.

And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case.
HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred.

Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing.

Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum.
##vote KelsierSC


One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them.

How is not having reads not scummy?
And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT??

Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent.


God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA"

He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns.

HE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS HOLDING BACK READS OR FORMULATING THEM.
WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT?



I never assumed that, my point is that not giving your reads immediately doesn't make you scummy.

thanks for the all caps though it makes things really large


so giving reads immediately is scummy?


It depends on the quality of the read and how it fits with the rest of the thread.

If the thread is in one direction and out of the blue you say "this random guy is mafia because i did an RNG" I think that is a bad read and a scummy thing to do imo.



So let me get this straight you're scrutinizing me over why I'm not lynching OO who was random voted by BH who you think is scummy
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 07 2014 10:36 GMT
#564
On October 07 2014 19:32 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 19:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:22 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:42 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Just to update on HF.

I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.

Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.

clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place.

And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case.
HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred.

Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing.

Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum.
##vote KelsierSC


One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them.

How is not having reads not scummy?
And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT??

Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent.


God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA"

He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns.

HE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS HOLDING BACK READS OR FORMULATING THEM.
WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT?



I never assumed that, my point is that not giving your reads immediately doesn't make you scummy.

thanks for the all caps though it makes things really large


so giving reads immediately is scummy?


It depends on the quality of the read and how it fits with the rest of the thread.

If the thread is in one direction and out of the blue you say "this random guy is mafia because i did an RNG" I think that is a bad read and a scummy thing to do imo.



So let me get this straight you're scrutinizing me over why I'm not lynching OO who was random voted by BH who you think is scummy


yep
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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 07 2014 10:37 GMT
#565
so you think OO and BH are both scummy?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 07 2014 10:41 GMT
#566
On October 07 2014 19:32 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 19:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:22 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:42 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Just to update on HF.

I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.

Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.

clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place.

And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case.
HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred.

Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing.

Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum.
##vote KelsierSC


One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them.

How is not having reads not scummy?
And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT??

Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent.


God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA"

He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns.

HE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS HOLDING BACK READS OR FORMULATING THEM.
WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT?



I never assumed that, my point is that not giving your reads immediately doesn't make you scummy.

thanks for the all caps though it makes things really large


so giving reads immediately is scummy?


It depends on the quality of the read and how it fits with the rest of the thread.

If the thread is in one direction and out of the blue you say "this random guy is mafia because i did an RNG" I think that is a bad read and a scummy thing to do imo.



So let me get this straight you're scrutinizing me over why I'm not lynching OO who was random voted by BH who you think is scummy


The only reason why I think BH is scummy is his RNG thing which, seemed to me, pretty disruptive.
But judging by the attitude of BH he probably just does it anyway regardless of the thread. Bad town maybe scum maybe.
If I look past the RNG and other people in the town think BH is town they I would shift my view to bad town, I think Grak called BH town and Grak is my top town at the moment so.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 07 2014 10:41 GMT
#567
On October 07 2014 19:37 liancourt wrote:
so you think OO and BH are both scummy?


as above I think BH might just be bad/based town
Zerg for Life
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 07 2014 10:47 GMT
#568
On October 07 2014 19:41 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 19:32 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:22 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:42 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
[quote]
clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place.

And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case.
HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred.

Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing.

Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum.
##vote KelsierSC


One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them.

How is not having reads not scummy?
And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT??

Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent.


God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA"

He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns.

HE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS HOLDING BACK READS OR FORMULATING THEM.
WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT?



I never assumed that, my point is that not giving your reads immediately doesn't make you scummy.

thanks for the all caps though it makes things really large


so giving reads immediately is scummy?


It depends on the quality of the read and how it fits with the rest of the thread.

If the thread is in one direction and out of the blue you say "this random guy is mafia because i did an RNG" I think that is a bad read and a scummy thing to do imo.



So let me get this straight you're scrutinizing me over why I'm not lynching OO who was random voted by BH who you think is scummy


The only reason why I think BH is scummy is his RNG thing which, seemed to me, pretty disruptive.
But judging by the attitude of BH he probably just does it anyway regardless of the thread. Bad town maybe scum maybe.
If I look past the RNG and other people in the town think BH is town they I would shift my view to bad town, I think Grak called BH town and Grak is my top town at the moment so.


huh you changed your view from being both scummy to reading BH as a bad town. What made you change you mind?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 07 2014 10:48 GMT
#569
On October 07 2014 19:47 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 19:41 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:32 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:22 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:42 KelsierSC wrote:
[quote]

One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them.

How is not having reads not scummy?
And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT??

Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent.


God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA"

He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns.

HE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS HOLDING BACK READS OR FORMULATING THEM.
WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT?



I never assumed that, my point is that not giving your reads immediately doesn't make you scummy.

thanks for the all caps though it makes things really large


so giving reads immediately is scummy?


It depends on the quality of the read and how it fits with the rest of the thread.

If the thread is in one direction and out of the blue you say "this random guy is mafia because i did an RNG" I think that is a bad read and a scummy thing to do imo.



So let me get this straight you're scrutinizing me over why I'm not lynching OO who was random voted by BH who you think is scummy


The only reason why I think BH is scummy is his RNG thing which, seemed to me, pretty disruptive.
But judging by the attitude of BH he probably just does it anyway regardless of the thread. Bad town maybe scum maybe.
If I look past the RNG and other people in the town think BH is town they I would shift my view to bad town, I think Grak called BH town and Grak is my top town at the moment so.


huh you changed your view from being both scummy to reading BH as a bad town. What made you change you mind?


are you serious I just gave my reasons above what the fuck.


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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 07 2014 10:50 GMT
#570
Yeah cool you changed my mind. Great job kelsier.

##unvote
Liancourt and oo might be scum.
Liancourt cause he has no scum reads other than "they did nothing"
No gg, No skill.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 07 2014 10:51 GMT
#571
On October 07 2014 19:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah cool you changed my mind. Great job kelsier.

##unvote
Liancourt and oo might be scum.
Liancourt cause he has no scum reads other than "they did nothing"


that is where my head is at aswell atm
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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 07 2014 10:53 GMT
#572
On October 07 2014 19:48 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 19:47 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:41 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:32 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:22 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
[quote]
How is not having reads not scummy?
And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT??

Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent.


God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA"

He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns.

HE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS HOLDING BACK READS OR FORMULATING THEM.
WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT?



I never assumed that, my point is that not giving your reads immediately doesn't make you scummy.

thanks for the all caps though it makes things really large


so giving reads immediately is scummy?


It depends on the quality of the read and how it fits with the rest of the thread.

If the thread is in one direction and out of the blue you say "this random guy is mafia because i did an RNG" I think that is a bad read and a scummy thing to do imo.



So let me get this straight you're scrutinizing me over why I'm not lynching OO who was random voted by BH who you think is scummy


The only reason why I think BH is scummy is his RNG thing which, seemed to me, pretty disruptive.
But judging by the attitude of BH he probably just does it anyway regardless of the thread. Bad town maybe scum maybe.
If I look past the RNG and other people in the town think BH is town they I would shift my view to bad town, I think Grak called BH town and Grak is my top town at the moment so.


huh you changed your view from being both scummy to reading BH as a bad town. What made you change you mind?


are you serious I just gave my reasons above what the fuck.




Let me rephrase, why'd you change your opinion in a matter minutes while talking to me?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 07 2014 11:02 GMT
#573
On October 07 2014 19:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah cool you changed my mind. Great job kelsier.

##unvote
Liancourt and oo might be scum.
Liancourt cause he has no scum reads other than "they did nothing"


so lying low can't be considered scummy? And I mentioned damd as being scummy because of his vagueness regardless of his usual playstyle, it's what I believe. Does this not count?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 07 2014 11:33 GMT
#574
On October 07 2014 19:53 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 19:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:47 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:41 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:32 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:22 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 19:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:
[quote]

God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA"

He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns.

HE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS HOLDING BACK READS OR FORMULATING THEM.
WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT?



I never assumed that, my point is that not giving your reads immediately doesn't make you scummy.

thanks for the all caps though it makes things really large


so giving reads immediately is scummy?


It depends on the quality of the read and how it fits with the rest of the thread.

If the thread is in one direction and out of the blue you say "this random guy is mafia because i did an RNG" I think that is a bad read and a scummy thing to do imo.



So let me get this straight you're scrutinizing me over why I'm not lynching OO who was random voted by BH who you think is scummy


The only reason why I think BH is scummy is his RNG thing which, seemed to me, pretty disruptive.
But judging by the attitude of BH he probably just does it anyway regardless of the thread. Bad town maybe scum maybe.
If I look past the RNG and other people in the town think BH is town they I would shift my view to bad town, I think Grak called BH town and Grak is my top town at the moment so.


huh you changed your view from being both scummy to reading BH as a bad town. What made you change you mind?


are you serious I just gave my reasons above what the fuck.




Let me rephrase, why'd you change your opinion in a matter minutes while talking to me?


Basically I asked you to give me your mafia/who you would lynch and the list seemed bad.

Especially as your 3 included storr/dam over OO which makes no sense to me.
You didnt want to lynch OO because he was the random which is kind of a silly defence now. yeh you explained later but he was still not one of your 3 lynches.
so if you are scummy and not lynching OO, who is scummy, it is likely that BH actually got a mafia with his RNG
Also I reread Grak and he was calling BH town so.
Zerg for Life
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 07 2014 12:42 GMT
#575
This guy defending obi, wtf. You say i attacked him early (24 hours after the game had started) and didn't give any reasons to vote him (i did multiple times) but then you don't even mention how he has no actual reads whatsoever or how he lied about reading gracks filter or how he literally has no real reads other than town reads based on almost nothing. His defence on why he was so town was based on his interaction with hopeless that doesn't make sense as any defence and he just whined all the time (something he has done as scum).

Lians scum team is actually not bad apart from not having oo in it
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 07 2014 12:59 GMT
#576
On October 07 2014 21:42 Holyflare wrote:
This guy defending obi, wtf. You say i attacked him early (24 hours after the game had started) and didn't give any reasons to vote him (i did multiple times) but then you don't even mention how he has no actual reads whatsoever or how he lied about reading gracks filter or how he literally has no real reads other than town reads based on almost nothing. His defence on why he was so town was based on his interaction with hopeless that doesn't make sense as any defence and he just whined all the time (something he has done as scum).

Lians scum team is actually not bad apart from not having oo in it


I think I went over all this before but.

Obi wasn't saying much at the start of the game, reading through the thread obi comes in, tries to talk to dama/lian then you said something like "are you going to do something" and then vote him afterwards. I wasn't in the thread at the time so not sure about time between posts but from what I can see obi got a lot of heat from you after only a few posts.

I explained the point before that he never said he filter dived. I think it was Grack not you who actually pointed this out but to me it doesn't look like a slip.

I think you are being unfair to say oh he has no reads so scum. If you read, it doesn't look like he had a chance to formulate any reads before you attacked him for it, at which point he was defending himself. Once obi has finished reading the thread then I think it will be fair to judge him.

Zerg for Life
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 07 2014 13:16 GMT
#577
Obi had 24 hours of game time to read the thread, make conclusions and post reads. I can get that he is busy but the first thing he said on his return was that he was reading the thread. After about half an hour of apparently not reading the thread he returns and only repeatedly told people that what bh was doing wasn't scummy hence why I called him out on not doing anything useful because it was already stated multiple times that what BH was doing is in fact null. So not only does he skirt by with no real reads he appears to contribute in lieu of actually participating by rehashing the same thing over and over again.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 07 2014 13:22 GMT
#578
On October 07 2014 14:20 Holyflare wrote:
OO is probably the best lynch today purely because he can't be fucked to play as mafia from what he said when we were mafia together, not to mention that his reads were so back to front



this is also still relevant
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 13:28 GMT
#579
On October 07 2014 22:16 Holyflare wrote:
Obi had 24 hours of game time to read the thread, make conclusions and post reads. I can get that he is busy but the first thing he said on his return was that he was reading the thread. After about half an hour of apparently not reading the thread he returns and only repeatedly told people that what bh was doing wasn't scummy hence why I called him out on not doing anything useful because it was already stated multiple times that what BH was doing is in fact null. So not only does he skirt by with no real reads he appears to contribute in lieu of actually participating by rehashing the same thing over and over again.


The parts about continuing to harp on about BH stuff is moderately useful since people continue to talk about it. Seriously guys STOP WITH THE RNG DISCUSSION.

I was under the impression that obi had actually read the thread and was about to...do...things, once he'd gotten people to drop the RNG discussion. Evidently I was wrong. Obi do you have any reads based on...reading?

Skimming through what happened over the night, Grack is way townier than I implied earlier. He's not only generating content, its useful content, as opposed to incessantly trolling/joking.

Slam with some more g8 b8 m8. Slam why are you so scummy? Who are your partners?

As with others, waiting on storr's awesome case.

Oats/Kelsier discussion was really meh.

Liancourt's list post is a wall of wishwash. Would #lynchwithfire.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 13:32 GMT
#580
On October 07 2014 22:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 14:20 Holyflare wrote:
OO is probably the best lynch today purely because he can't be fucked to play as mafia from what he said when we were mafia together, not to mention that his reads were so back to front



this is also still relevant

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