EPTBetter, I will give you a direct in thread link to a previous quoting. Read the nested quotes.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=25#494
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Better, I will give you a direct in thread link to a previous quoting. Read the nested quotes. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=25#494 | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On October 07 2014 16:28 Oatsmaster wrote: like this bit right? How has he been questioning damdred and lian? How is disliking the RNG nonsense townie? How is he pissed off? And how does this come together to make him totally totally town? What do you disagree with HF/Grack? Who are you quoting there OatsMaster | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote: Just to update on HF. I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy. Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy. Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia. Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it. clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place. And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case. HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred. Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing. Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum. ##vote KelsierSC | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 07 2014 16:28 Oatsmaster wrote: like this bit right? How has he been questioning damdred and lian? How is disliking the RNG nonsense townie? How is he pissed off? And how does this come together to make him totally totally town? What do you disagree with HF/Grack? it is in his filter on like page 1 he enters the thread and questions dam and lian, then HF comes in and attacks him. I think if you dislike something that is anti town. it probably makes you town. Also he could have felt the BH discussion was going nowhere and wanted to move on. He probably has more experience with it than I do. He seemed pretty pissed off with hf in the discussion, seemed like genuine frustration. To me that is 3 good reasons for him being town, considering it is d1 he has done enough to get a town read off me. Obviously I disagree, why ask me that question? | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote: clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place. And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case. HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred. Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing. Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum. ##vote KelsierSC Oats My smurf, you know him? You are being ![[image loading]](http://www.cartoonspot.net/looney-tunes/picture/road-runner-1.jpg) I cannot catch up with you Slow down Kusplain | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote: clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place. And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case. HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred. Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing. Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum. ##vote KelsierSC Clearly you arent reading hard enough, where did he give an explanation before he said filter. he just voted and said "reason filter" It seemed to me that obi was trying to create content and asking questions of dama and lian and trying to stop the RNG discussion, then HF just went after him. My town read of him is actually pretty good I have solid reasons for it. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
![[image loading]](http://kichiwall.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/wincustomize-explore-logonstudio-wile-e-coyote-help-vista-style-1-.-ibackgroundz.com_.jpg) That took too long to find | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote: clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place. And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case. HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred. Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing. Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum. ##vote KelsierSC One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On October 07 2014 16:41 Alakaslam wrote: Like I need That took too long to find Ppl plz | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On October 07 2014 16:42 KelsierSC wrote: One of the main points of HF's attack is that Obi didn't give his reads immediately. I am saying that doesn't make him scummy as people could want to hold back their reads for a time or they haven't formulated them. How is not having reads not scummy? And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT?? Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent. | ||
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liancourt
1563 Posts
On October 07 2014 14:34 Holyflare wrote: uhhhh something to lian when you wake up, why did you go from town reading bh to thinking his rng thing was actually really scummy? I think I said his posts seem legit which makes me feel he is town, but his method (RNG)is just meh...a strat more advantageous for scum to be using. But apparently everyone thinks BH's strat is just his standardized play. I'm at a crossroads here. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 07 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote: How is not having reads not scummy? And if he was holding it back intentionally, why didnt he say so at ANY POINT?? Where are these reads by Obi btw, I didnt see anything decent. God I have said this before. He could be formulating his reads or be holding them for a time until he re read the whole thread.. Maybe that is his playstyle who knows. Just saying It was too soon to call him scummy. It seemed to me like he was trying to get a read and then HF stormed in and said "YOU DIDNT GIVE READS IMMEDIATELY YOU ARE MAFIA" He did give grak a town read , but he also said he hadn't finished rereading so he will have more when he returns. | ||
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liancourt
1563 Posts
On October 07 2014 14:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Because we hit 20 pages by the end of the first half of the day, and from the looks of the early game and BH's random lynching, I was under the impression that nothing of great importance happened. You're acting like one of two good townreads are super important, and they're not. We have 14 players. That's not enough. We need more. If you're really going to get your panties in a bunch about this, I'll go and reread the entire game and say stuff. two good town reads? Who are they? | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
You said people were overreacting and iffy but do you have any people you would lynch right now? | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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liancourt
1563 Posts
On October 07 2014 15:53 Oatsmaster wrote: The obi stuff is interesting. He doesn't defend himself in any meaningful, rational way. Just gets irrationally angry and hf and starts a fight. I would expect scum to not be so foolish and actually defend themself with better stuff. Too bad to be scum is my current read. Keilsar or whatever his name is is scummy for reasons. So is oo. I think there's definitely scum in the lurkers so lynching into there is fine. Liencourt never responded to my question  Sorry what question was that? | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
He has been really active and has one of the longest..filters and he has been in peoples face with oats,dama,obi which is a playstlye i like.Plus his reasons for obi are supportable, so i mean his reasons are wrong but he can back up a reason with quotes etc. he isnt just making them up I think I like his playstyle, I just think his targets and reasons are wrong. hf - eager town | ||
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liancourt
1563 Posts
On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote: Just to update on HF. I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy. Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy. Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia. Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it. Although I do agree HF's coming out seemed abrupt, I can't say obi was asking questions that much. He was mainly talking with me defending BH. And his filter is full of defend the BH posts. I don't think he really accused me of anything either and just defended the RNG strat. | ||
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liancourt
1563 Posts
On October 07 2014 16:22 Alakaslam wrote: What about ObiWanShinobi changing his story what story did he change? | ||
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