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Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 22 2015 23:31 GMT

#5078

On March 23 2015 08:30 Damdred wrote:
Could always shennany on Rayn and hope he's the rb so viv can shoot LS XD trololol

you say that but

that sounds hilarious and awesome

i won't do it tho poor ls needs to be out of the thread as quickly as possible

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 22 2015 23:34 GMT

#5083

On March 23 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:

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meh i know everyone has different opinions as to how people should play the game and i really did clutter this thread up quite a bit needlessly lol i don't post that much just to get townread

(in all honesty i might have overcompensated to avoid looking timid...i'm not used to playing blue ><)

eh i just get chided for leading town poorly, then not leading town, then this then that and i don't know what to do anymore lol but that's for post-game i guess

my advice is to just go. keep doing whatever is coming to mind as a good idea. you see something, say something about it. i would have never checked back on ray's claim and found the gem i found if damdred hadn't suggested something about ray and ls that i didn't understand from context

and don't worry about leadership either. as much as we like to hype up individual plays made by individual players when we talk about mafia, mafia is fundamentally a team game. you don't have to lead or carry any games to be good at this game. you just have to be observant, mindful, and confident in yourself and your instincts. if you find something good then the leadership will come in time

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 00:10 GMT

#5088

On March 23 2015 08:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Eden stop being so team minded, you might actually earn a NK that isn't a medic dodge for once.

bitch please i was n1'd in my first newbie game while the doc was knowingly rb'd

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 00:11 GMT

#5089

On March 23 2015 08:56 Toadesstern wrote:

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I'd take that as anyone can deliver KP.
It's usually you don't have to pick anyone to deliver at all and it's thus not trackable or everyone can deliver even if they have roles.

i think what damdred is saying isn't that goon has to deliver kp, but that you can't both rb someone and deliver kp with the same person

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lol how clinical is "deliver kp"

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 00:21 GMT

#5099

On March 23 2015 09:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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Good point. I have a theory that's better not to explain until post night though.

explain at EON then if you don't mind

and yeah outside of FF hardcore and I mean HARDCORE busing LS d1, i can't see anybody in that list being mafia rn

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 00:23 GMT

#5100

On March 23 2015 09:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh no wait there's 17 players, I just forgot since on my spreadsheet I'm already the confirmed town green.

one of those is LS so really it's 9/16 with 4 mafia

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 00:28 GMT

#5102

so let's look.

nope.avi
me
rsoultin
vivax
toad
artie
damdy
trfel
exo_
ff

okay.jpg
breshke
sicklucker
slam
ray
superb
palmar
onegu

my first thought for a plan of action:
- make onegu hardclaim his mason partner immediately and have partner confirm
- have a vig shoot onegu anyway to confirm
- lynch the rest and win

and i mean honestly? i have the next 3 lynches just about made up in my mind. LS is confirmed mafia, ray and superbia both have pretty solid evidence against them imo. so i feel like i could pretty much just kill down the line here unless ray and/or superbia really ball out the next couple of days and prove themselves, at which point i think there'd be due cause to reconsider

i don't want to get complacent but this really feels like we're close to solving it

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 00:32 GMT

#5105

On March 23 2015 09:28 Damdred wrote:
Who are the unconfirmed left in that lynch

i need a fucking rosetta stone for your phone posting. roflmao

if you're asking what i think you're asking, have this:

On March 21 2015 07:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Bill Murray (4): Superbia, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar
Vivax (2): LightningStrike, sicklucker, ~~Palmar~~
LightningStrike (3): ~~raynpelikoneet~~, Onegu
Toadesstern (1): ~~Palmar~~, ~~raynpelikoneet~~, ~~Palmar~~
sicklucker (1): ~~Alakaslam~~, ~~Superbia~~, Alakaslam, ~~Breshke~~
Eden1892 (0): ~~Onegu~~
Damdred (0): ~~raynpelikoneet~~, ~~sicklucker~~
Alakaslam (0): ~~sicklucker~~
Trfel (0): ~~Superbia~~
Holyflare (0): ~~Alakaslam~~

Not Voting (0):

Currently, Bill Murray is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 00:34 GMT

#5106

and slightly reinforcing what damdred was saying earlier, once we look at the voting record without the nope.avi group in it, suddenly all the votes ever cast for ray disappeared

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 00:34 GMT

#5107

i forgot onegu's final vote was on LS

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 00:36 GMT

#5109

On March 23 2015 09:34 Eden1892 wrote:
i forgot onegu's final vote was on LS

update: no wonder i forgot, he never mentions his vote for LS and doesn't actually make an effort to give a read on LS either

no towncred 4u

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 00:39 GMT

#5111

On March 21 2015 19:20 Onegu wrote:
Sorry I wasn't around for deadline would have voted Bill Murray. Will rng who I sheep at day post and let you all know. Will try to play Sunday and read some filters. For now.just letting my mason partner keep me kinda up to date.

???towncred account balance restored???

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 00:40 GMT

#5113

On March 23 2015 09:37 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm actually pretty damn confident in my analysis that Onegu and Rayn can't be mafia together

i'm cool with it

man how fucking awesome would it be if sicklucker is actually onegu's masonbro?

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 00:42 GMT

#5116

On March 23 2015 09:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
that bill murray wagon is so lame

""""my b" - chillen" - eden" - eden" - eden

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 01:00 GMT

#5122

On March 23 2015 09:48 ExO_ wrote:
Okay I'm home. The discussion today looks like it's gone much better than expected. I fully expected to be the leading lynch candidate.

I'm going to play civ/read the thread. I'm over 20 pages behind. Though tbh it looks like I'm not even needed that much. Game has nearly been solved.

I'm really sorry for really messing up my role. Looks like it turned out okay. Good job carrying me being horrible.

You didn't botch it lol. Collective misunderstanding. You got confirmed town out of it and your check further confirms rsoultin so yeah. Worked out!

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 01:03 GMT

#5123

On March 23 2015 09:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm actually of the belief that Mafia has pretty much given up on the game and that everyone currently posting is town.

i don't believe in unicorns

but i think i saw a horn lying around here somewhere...

like if there's gonna be a game where mafia rolls over and dies, this is prolly it. thread atmosphere has been fucking terrific imo. lots of people trying to figure shit out, making good observations and reads

this just doesn't feel like a thread where the mafia have a lot of presence. in those threads things usually just don't get done like they are here. it's never even one person's fault usually, but it's like there's this foul miasma hovering over everyone's heads clouding sound judgment. the air is so clear here

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 01:39 GMT

#5135

...hey, wait a sec

assuming all kills processed without interference and both vigs shot, how many kills should there have been?

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 01:45 GMT

#5145

alright so basically here's the list of questions to resolve:

How clear was it that Toad was shooting VE by the time night actions couldn't be sent in anymore?
Was Onegu shot or a shooter?

The first one resolves the oddball scenario where mafia also shot VE. I don't think that happened deliberately; any WIFOM that could be created out of making it seem like Toad is mafia and carrying the kp to VE is really unconvincing given that Toad was the vig cc. It's possible mafia accidentally shot VE, but I consider that a poor shot.

The second one resolves the missing kill, and also Onegu's alignment, which is nice.

Basically, put another way, once we sort out whether Onegu is a mason or not, we sort out the n1 actions.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 01:46 GMT

#5147

err

**accidentally meaning they shot VE without realizing Toad was doing it too. passing on killing a townie just to stir up WIFOM on Toad that no one would believe anyway is retarded

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 23 2015 01:47 GMT

#5148

On March 23 2015 10:46 Trfel wrote:

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There are several of possibilities.

1. Onegu was shot
2. Onegu was carrying the KP himself (and was roleblocked)
3. Veteran was shot
4. Toadesstern is mafia
5. Mafia double-stacked to incriminate Toadesstern
6. Mafia shot VisceraEyes without knowing Toadesstern was also doing so

fify with the theories i think are too unlikely to be worth considering crossed out

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