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On March 24 2015 06:07 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:On March 24 2015 06:02 LightningStrike wrote:On March 24 2015 06:01 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote:On March 24 2015 05:58 Superbia wrote:
LS, if you hard defend me here you secure the miss lynch tomorrow. #Protips How to answer this? You probably shouldn't. You might confirm me as something. Let's keep talking. Would be interested in giving us a theoretical mafia team? I am confirmed Mafia because of my baby seals but why would anyone want to kill cute baby seals? BTW I wont tell you a team  EBWOP: I mean you guys god my grammar is so bad T_T i have a hilarious theory that this is a slip and superbia is mafia for this post ls first addresses this specifically to superbia, then feels the need to go back and correct it to a plural, including superbia as part of a group being addressed; the post is playfully adversarial indicating that group is town the fact that ls needed to go back and correct this means that superbia is mafia gottem boys sheep this d3
It's interesting that we each reached a completely different conclusion from the same post.
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No. I'm going to play dota.
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Eden, my first priority during EoD1 was to ensure that both vigi claims survived the lynch. My preference was to go on SL or LS, but (at that point, due to mason claim) confirmed town HF was looking at BM. I tried to engage with HF regarding the subject of the lynch multiple times, but it never happened. It was abundantly clear what my lynch preference was EoD, and it is also rather clear that if I had made a fuss about the lynch, the wagons would be split and Vivax would've been lynched.
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Can someone make me a list with the people who have claimed PR and what PR (and if at all possible, at what point)? I'm looking to go over some filters, but I really can't be bothered reading the entirety of d2 in 2 hours. I'm suspecting that SL is using the Orb on me tonight and I'm going to miraculously die (and subsequently flip town).
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On March 25 2015 05:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Super you claim something?
I'm vt folks wassup
I'm claiming nothing sson. Shoot me to find out. :D
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On March 25 2015 05:53 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 05:49 Superbia wrote:
Eden, my first priority during EoD1 was to ensure that both vigi claims survived the lynch. My preference was to go on SL or LS, but (at that point, due to mason claim) confirmed town HF was looking at BM. I tried to engage with HF regarding the subject of the lynch multiple times, but it never happened. It was abundantly clear what my lynch preference was EoD, and it is also rather clear that if I had made a fuss about the lynch, the wagons would be split and Vivax would've been lynched. You had 3 votes on LightningStrike at the time compared to 3 for Bill Murray. If you had done literally any degree of actual pushing to get LS lynched instead of just saying "why not LS why not LS?" (pro tip this isn't engagement this is just harassing) you probably get that wagon. I would have moved to it if you'd made any case at all. It's the BM wagon that threatened to split the vote, not the LS one. Your lynch preference was "not-the-vigs," you kept talking about lynching LightningStrike, LightningStrike was a viable wagon, but you never vote LS and you allow the BM wagon to take over while grumbling about it instead of making a case on your scumread.
Okay. First of all, I wasn't sure which between SL and LS I wanted to vote off. That's why I wanted to engage with HF and get his thoughts on the matter.
Let's say that I was hard-reading LS scum at that time (I really wasn't, I was still unsure of my read), and I vote on LS and start telling other people to vote on LS. How does HF react? How does the rest of town react? Do you really believe that we get the lynch on LS over Vivax?
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On March 25 2015 06:02 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 05:57 Superbia wrote:On March 25 2015 05:53 Eden1892 wrote:On March 25 2015 05:49 Superbia wrote:
Eden, my first priority during EoD1 was to ensure that both vigi claims survived the lynch. My preference was to go on SL or LS, but (at that point, due to mason claim) confirmed town HF was looking at BM. I tried to engage with HF regarding the subject of the lynch multiple times, but it never happened. It was abundantly clear what my lynch preference was EoD, and it is also rather clear that if I had made a fuss about the lynch, the wagons would be split and Vivax would've been lynched. You had 3 votes on LightningStrike at the time compared to 3 for Bill Murray. If you had done literally any degree of actual pushing to get LS lynched instead of just saying "why not LS why not LS?" (pro tip this isn't engagement this is just harassing) you probably get that wagon. I would have moved to it if you'd made any case at all. It's the BM wagon that threatened to split the vote, not the LS one. Your lynch preference was "not-the-vigs," you kept talking about lynching LightningStrike, LightningStrike was a viable wagon, but you never vote LS and you allow the BM wagon to take over while grumbling about it instead of making a case on your scumread. Okay. First of all, I wasn't sure which between SL and LS I wanted to vote off. That's why I wanted to engage with HF and get his thoughts on the matter. Let's say that I was hard-reading LS scum at that time (I really wasn't, I was still unsure of my read), and I vote on LS and start telling other people to vote on LS. How does HF react? How does the rest of town react? Do you really believe that we get the lynch on LS over Vivax? Actually I just looked at the vote count again at the time you asked HF, you were voting sicklucker. sicklucker and LS were both at 3 votes. You're telling me you had two ways to get one of your scumreads lynched that were both as viable as BM at the time, but that you decided to vote for BM (who you even lampshaded would flip town in your comment to HF) instead? The vote was already split among 3 wagons so your reaction instead of pushing either of the 2 that you thought was scum was to move to the one you thought was town??? And hell yes! HF later even said he was drunk when he switched ffs. Obviously some of this is hindsight but yes, the thread sentiment was pretty clearly split 50/50 between "lynch a vig claim" and "don't lynch a vig claim." You had the opportunity right in front of you to push either of your scumreads as the "don't lynch a vig claim" wagon, then you idled on a town wagon that you said beforehand you thought was townie. Why am I supposed to townread you for this? Why shouldn't I find this suspicious as hell?
From my PoV at that point in time the wagons on both SL and LS were inactive. The only person who engaged me (iirc) on either of the two wagons was Breshke, who was interested in a LS lynch. Now I'm supposed to believe that I can make a switch happen to either of the wagons? Neither of which I am even fully convinced of myself yet? Do whatever you want, I understand how it might look scummy in retrospect, especially since BM flipped town and LS mafia. We can talk about this tomorrow if I don't die.
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On March 25 2015 06:03 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 05:58 Vivax wrote:On March 25 2015 05:53 Damdred wrote:
Vivax you weren't playing as town. You didn't act town until you got pinged put. It's why I hate people who play differently when they wore blue it's frustrating. Speaking of SL, I need Eden to tell me why he's town. So far I was rather chill about him but I figure he's still possible mafia, in stead of 1 of Slam/Palmar who are the guys I'm most unsure of. I felt like he was trying to figure things out and gave more of a shit yesterday, but the more he's just not doing anything the more I'm doubting this tbh. I'm pulling my TR on him
Impossible. I can't be scum if you're scumreading SL.
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On March 25 2015 06:09 Damdred wrote:
Super are you Scum reading me
I'm not scum reading anyone atm. I'm re-evaluating and checking filters. I might scum read you when I'm done with it. Who knows. I liked how you had LS as your second scum on your big night list. I don't like that you made a big night list if both vigis turn out to be real since we were going into the night with possible two town KP, and KP was being spread by town.
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Which vigi claimed the shot on VE again?
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I'm not going to post for the next hour or so, making big posterino.
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On March 25 2015 06:29 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 06:24 Toadesstern wrote:
Rsoultin claimed to have jailed Onegu, which is the whole point behind Onegu mafiareading her based on "why didn't you save HF" I think its much more likely mafia Onegu was jailed and couldn't shoot, than Onegu was targetted by mafia.
It depends on vigis, I feel. If both of them are real, I think they would've shot into the vigis, in which case it is likely that Onegu is mafia.
If one of them is fake, it is more likely they want to keep both of the vigis alive and shoot into the "masons".
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On March 25 2015 06:36 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 06:32 Superbia wrote:On March 25 2015 06:29 ExO_ wrote:On March 25 2015 06:24 Toadesstern wrote:
Rsoultin claimed to have jailed Onegu, which is the whole point behind Onegu mafiareading her based on "why didn't you save HF" I think its much more likely mafia Onegu was jailed and couldn't shoot, than Onegu was targetted by mafia. It depends on vigis, I feel. If both of them are real, I think they would've shot into the vigis, in which case it is likely that Onegu is mafia. If one of them is fake, it is more likely they want to keep both of the vigis alive and shoot into the "masons". why would mafia shoot into a vig if having town lynch them is the way better option for them? At that point in time we were all set on the idea that one of us has to be mafia and we were heading for a reapeat of d1, a lynch between Vivax and me. That's literally best case scenario for mafia.
Because the other vigi has to explain why he's alive on d3 or whatever. And they just keep RBing him.
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Like this is all rather guessing where the mafia's wine is, but if I was mafia, and both were town, I would've probably shot Vivax after that d1, especially if you can set up the wagons well.
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On March 25 2015 06:40 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 06:37 Superbia wrote:On March 25 2015 06:36 Toadesstern wrote:On March 25 2015 06:32 Superbia wrote:On March 25 2015 06:29 ExO_ wrote:On March 25 2015 06:24 Toadesstern wrote:
Rsoultin claimed to have jailed Onegu, which is the whole point behind Onegu mafiareading her based on "why didn't you save HF" I think its much more likely mafia Onegu was jailed and couldn't shoot, than Onegu was targetted by mafia. It depends on vigis, I feel. If both of them are real, I think they would've shot into the vigis, in which case it is likely that Onegu is mafia. If one of them is fake, it is more likely they want to keep both of the vigis alive and shoot into the "masons". why would mafia shoot into a vig if having town lynch them is the way better option for them? At that point in time we were all set on the idea that one of us has to be mafia and we were heading for a reapeat of d1, a lynch between Vivax and me. That's literally best case scenario for mafia. Because the other vigi has to explain why he's alive on d3 or whatever. And they just keep RBing him. you just said "they'd shoot into vig if one is fake and one is town" and now you're explaining it by using what we think to be more likely, that both are town. Let's say you are right and it is 1 mafia 1 town. If they shoot into vig they will shoot the town one (duh) That would be an insta lynch on d2 for the other vig and you say that's what they'd do because they could just keep on roleblocking the still alive vig (mafia according to your explanation because the townvig is already dead) So they're framing the mafia-Vig as mafia by roleblocking him and making people ask why he's still alive?
What? I'm saying that if they're both town mafia likely would shoot one (probably Vivax) and then push to lynch toad (you) on d3. 1 mafia in either and they leave them both alive.
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On March 25 2015 06:44 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote:
Like this is all rather guessing where the mafia's wine is, but if I was mafia, and both were town, I would've probably shot Vivax after that d1, especially if you can set up the wagons well. why would you should either Vivax or me when you can get us lynched... think about it this way: Day 1: BM lynch Day 2: lynch between Vivax or Toad, let's say it's on VivaxDay 3: "Oh hey, Vivax flipped green!", lynch on Toadsounds a lot better than what you're saying
Yeah but this play is way too obvious. Mafia never wants to be obvious.
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