EPTOn February 13 2015 06:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'll take this as a complement or something
I'll take this as a complement or something
It is. Kita just a jealous ol' sourpuss.
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
It is. Kita just a jealous ol' sourpuss. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On February 13 2015 00:13 kitaman27 wrote: Would people be opposed to something like a 10-12 (?) page filter per cycle limit? Nothing that would inhibit players in 95% of cases but it would serve as a general guideline for when hosts should try to draw the line in situations where things get so out of hand that everyone else is miserable? Maybe it could be included in the default OP under the spam section, but removed at the host discretion if they are fine with a game like Imperial while kinda giving players a warning ahead of time they things may get crazy? It's bad to make rules that force a behavioural change. You have to selectively manipulate that shit if you want people posting less. E.g create setup mechanics that give more benefits to those that post less, but do so clearly, with good posts, and the like. Make the mechanics hinder those that spam with lots of fluff | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On February 13 2015 06:36 Sn0_Man wrote: I'll take this as a complement or something I kid. I <3 each and everyone one of you. + Show Spoiler + Except the ones that I don't  | ||
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Damdred
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On February 13 2015 07:40 Damdred wrote: Kitaman should do HS mafia 2 so we can spasm it :o I'm thinking either Personality 3 or Heroes of the Storm will be the next large themed game that I host, but either would probably be a way off. | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
Don't get me wrong, I love that style and IMO its the best way to play. After a while though it just wasn't fun anymore and that's what matters. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On February 13 2015 09:13 Balla24 wrote: So the main reason i stopped playing was too much damn time to keep up with conversation... skimming/reading thread is easy but it just becomes way too cumbersome at some point. I imagine it was that way for a lot of my newbie class too (who, just from looking around the forum have almost all left after a few entrances to non-newbie games). Don't get me wrong, I love that style and IMO its the best way to play. After a while though it just wasn't fun anymore and that's what matters. you know, you can still come hang out in IRC with me. | ||
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Town Puppy
United States167 Posts
On February 13 2015 09:13 Balla24 wrote: So the main reason i stopped playing was too much damn time to keep up with conversation... skimming/reading thread is easy but it just becomes way too cumbersome at some point. I imagine it was that way for a lot of my newbie class too (who, just from looking around the forum have almost all left after a few entrances to non-newbie games). Don't get me wrong, I love that style and IMO its the best way to play. After a while though it just wasn't fun anymore and that's what matters. I won't spam too much if you play fwiw. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
The other side of the coin is also the newbies: as for seniors it is hard to come back to the game because of time constraints it is as hard for newbies to get in because of time needed to fall in love with the game. After falling in love with the game they need to better their skills and that's games upon games to improve. It's a lot of time measured in months and it should not be surprising that people can't keep up. Also I should apologize to iGrok for being a dick. I am not sure if I ever apologized, so here it is. Sorry iGrok, we should've handled things differently. | ||
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OnceKing
United States939 Posts
On February 13 2015 12:34 Town Puppy wrote: I won't spam too much if you play fwiw. liar | ||
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Town Puppy
United States167 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
On February 13 2015 07:43 kitaman27 wrote: :o I'm thinking either Personality 3 or Heroes of the Storm will be the next large themed game that I host, but either would probably be a way off. Personality 3 plzplzplzplzzplz | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2602 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 13 2015 12:58 Kurumi wrote: I am just sad that with the current style there's no way in hell that people like Nazgul (the God who brought us filter) or Sheth or maybe even Plexa come play again. It's just too much to keep up. I always liked games with much of activity. I wonder why nobody hosted a Real Time Mafia RoL came up with again. I think it could work out miraculously with today's metagame. The other side of the coin is also the newbies: as for seniors it is hard to come back to the game because of time constraints it is as hard for newbies to get in because of time needed to fall in love with the game. After falling in love with the game they need to better their skills and that's games upon games to improve. It's a lot of time measured in months and it should not be surprising that people can't keep up. Also I should apologize to iGrok for being a dick. I am not sure if I ever apologized, so here it is. Sorry iGrok, we should've handled things differently. Very much this. Some ppl are naturally just going to love a game like this where you're interacting with people trying to figure things out. (Case and point: me) And won't really care about the time commitment anyway. But for those who don't really enjoy games until they fully understand/are getting kinda good at it, the learning curve is vicious, especially with how much time and effort it takes to go through games like Imperial, or minis like the one we just played. That's an excellent reason to offer more games with restricted post counts on a regular basis, if only as a transition between newbie/student games to the huge, spammy games HF and marv favor. HF, I get what you're saying about it not being necessary to read everything to find scum, but lol, depending on skill level and familiarity with the game, what's obvious to you or some of the other vets on just a skim won't be obvious to some of the rest of us Especially if it's based on meta. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
Currently the strongest d1 and probably d2 metric for towniness is activity. This means mafia spam more to show activity and therefore town feels they must respond likewise to avoid a ml. This isn't towns fault it is just the state of the game and this leads to massive games. Now either town realises that activity is no longer the key metric and start evaluating post quality or something else to determine town d1 and therefore spamming is considered antitown , rather than just annoying. If this occurs mafia no longer spams and games become smaller. Or we don't change mafia spam , town out spams because it is the pro town play in the current meta, so mafia spams. Until we end up with 300 page d1's. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On February 13 2015 16:15 rsoultin wrote: That's an excellent reason to offer more games with restricted post counts on a regular basis, if only as a transition between newbie/student games to the huge, spammy games HF and marv favor. . I wouldn't say I favour huge games. I just post a lot. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 13 2015 19:00 marvellosity wrote: I wouldn't say I favour huge games. I just post a lot. fair enough. the huge games y'all create, then? xP | ||
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liancourt
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On February 13 2015 16:15 rsoultin wrote: Very much this. Some ppl are naturally just going to love a game like this where you're interacting with people trying to figure things out. (Case and point: me) And won't really care about the time commitment anyway. But for those who don't really enjoy games until they fully understand/are getting kinda good at it, the learning curve is vicious, especially with how much time and effort it takes to go through games like Imperial, or minis like the one we just played. That's an excellent reason to offer more games with restricted post counts on a regular basis, if only as a transition between newbie/student games to the huge, spammy games HF and marv favor. HF, I get what you're saying about it not being necessary to read everything to find scum, but lol, depending on skill level and familiarity with the game, what's obvious to you or some of the other vets on just a skim won't be obvious to some of the rest of us Especially if it's based on meta.100%. As a player, I can hang with the spam. I can deal, assuming RL doesn't get too crazy for me. I just think having more options will benefit the community as a whole in terms of different people wanting to play/sticking around. Also some people have busier lives as well, I think in Student V someone made the point that not all people have computer based jobs where they can post from work. | ||
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