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On February 04 2015 07:22 marvellosity wrote: now i want pics of everyone Neat thread idea. | ||
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On February 04 2015 08:59 Eden1892 wrote: Because I don't see where they're going from a town POV either Lol That's all it took to get your vote off rsoultin though? I thought you were being serious about him. | ||
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Post game in Void mafia he went on this cocky spiel about how he doesn't try any harder than he needs to as mafia because he doesn't want to reveal all his skills in one game. This game he starts out saying he won't be contributing and he isn't. Voting Damdred is also consistent with this theory because the people in this game SL considers "strong players" are all voting Damdred and sheeping them is an easy way to stay off their radar. Instead of trying to contribute far out original theories like town SL does he is deferring to people like marv, asking them if things are "weird," as if asking for approval. | ||
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On February 04 2015 22:51 sicklucker wrote: thats not even true. My mafia strategy in my last 2 back to back scum games was to spam the thread. There's approx. ten posts in the last two pages of your void mafia filter that say otherwise. | ||
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On February 04 2015 22:59 Damdred wrote: Like its pretty obvious to me that Marv, Palmar are really towny. I think HF could be town, its just the feeling and read I have form him currently. It sucks but i'm not going to omgus them. Because last game I had 50 billion of the same question asked over and over and was super busy with life and was beign insulted constantly and the game was just toxic etc etc etc Unless I'm misunderstanding you are saying marv and Palmer are really townie? | ||
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On February 04 2015 23:11 Damdred wrote: I really don't understand what you are doing bat. I've held for a long time that palmar Marv are really towny? Wait what? You said marv was probably mafia? How is marv simultaneously really townie and probably mafia? | ||
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I'm not really feeling Damdred at the moment. | ||
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On February 05 2015 01:15 sicklucker wrote: More reasons to kill you my dear friend Not really. Millers are aware. | ||
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On February 05 2015 03:54 rsoultin wrote: where did this come from bats? -_- 3 more hrs death by ppt will kill me meh I read his filter and noticed how passive he was being. Also SL's response to my vote was surprisingly decent so I didn't really feel like staying on him. | ||
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On February 05 2015 08:15 Holyflare wrote: are you still scum read bresh after what marv has been saying? Yeah. I'm not saying I disagree with anything marv said but marv just compared breshke and damdred's LS read and concluded that damdred was the scummier of the two based on their LS read. That's not related to why I was scumreading breshke. | ||
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On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote: But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense. This is referring to SL? | ||
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This is only half true for SL then. Yeah he usually tries to figure out the game or acts like it is already solved as town but... he also makes shit up left and right and posts irrelevant nonsense as town. | ||
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On February 05 2015 08:43 justanothertownie wrote: Generally not without a purpose. He says dumb shit as town but you can see some line of thought. As scum he just posts random bullshit. So... you're sort of the authority on town SL nonsense vs mafia SL nonsense having been his scum mate last game. Which is it this game? | ||
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On February 06 2015 00:43 Eden1892 wrote: Man don't even derail my majestic wagon with PL shit rn. bats did you have anything to say about JAT? Not really. I don't agree with his SL read but i don't think jat would lie about an SL read as any alignment so... not much to say. | ||
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On February 06 2015 00:47 Eden1892 wrote: ...do you not have an opinion about whether he's town or mafia? No I think the inactivity is weird but it's not like jat is notorious for lurking as mafia. I think the wagon on him is useful and justified. | ||
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He only talked at the beginning of the game and after two votes accumulated on him quickly. Read his filter it's all passive. | ||
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On February 06 2015 02:37 sicklucker wrote: the keyword being "if we dont find scum" I think we have That's not what you said. But I don't think even that matters. | ||
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Breshke is too scummy though. | ||
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On February 06 2015 02:43 Holyflare wrote: I'm at a crossroads between just not giving a crap about the game and giving a modicum of care towards the game with an emphasis on the former and it's somewhat annoying to me. Nobody even mentioned me other than eden and i haven't even done anything this game really which is super boring and probably means mafia is the weaker players. I'd vote you if that makes you feel better. Breshke though... Really... | ||
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Should I vote rs too? | ||
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On February 06 2015 05:06 Koshi wrote: Hmm. I might be in bad company on JAT. Join me on breshke? | ||
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Breshke doesn't complain about there being too much to read... He is keeping up with the thread... He only contributes for selfish reasons. He does not use his posts to solve the game, he uses his posts when necessary to defend himself and stay alive. He is a really good lynch. Pls vote him. | ||
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On February 06 2015 06:31 marvellosity wrote: like he's literally reading the thread not giving a shit about the lynch The same can be said about breshke. | ||
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Pls sheep me. /confirmation bias | ||
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On February 06 2015 07:20 Breshke wrote: I kind of want to lynch Bats because all he is doing this game is saying other peoples cases are good but just continually saying im mafia. If me onegu and SL are all town it makes sense that he hasn't been pushing my wagon as hard as he could because he doesn't really care which of us is lynched. Why do you think onegu and SL are town? That's a pretty unique position you have and it would probably help town a lot if you explained it better as they and you are the biggest targets right now. | ||
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On February 06 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote: Im more sure on SL than Onegu SL wanted to vote RS for not caring and SL says he doesn't care... so I can argue that SL doesn't believe what he preaches. When marv told onegu to step it up, onegu responded by saying he would. That indicates a thirst to survive. The fact that he failed to deliver are why people are voting him. | ||
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On February 06 2015 07:33 Eden1892 wrote: In mafia, townies are suspicious for things they do. Mafia are suspicious for things they don't. It is the absence of activity that we should be hunting Getting distracted by players who are unintentional trolls like SL but are way too active to be mafia is not the way to find mafia I think you're full of shit. | ||
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On February 06 2015 07:34 Holyflare wrote: bresh seems to have the anti case for every mafia read that people have though Except himself. The anticase on breshke is "dont vote me because everyone in the game's reads might be wrong." | ||
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On February 06 2015 07:46 Palmar wrote: Jesus christ guys btw. Literally everyone here is townreading me and marv. We agree on the Damdred lynch. Maybe we're bad, maybe one is fooling the other. But it's a fairly good case to sheep. Go away | ||
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On February 06 2015 07:48 Palmar wrote: Bro Did you know that we are "no one has voted us" bros? Yeah Did you know I am too? | ||
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breshke is gone again. | ||
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On February 06 2015 08:25 Eden1892 wrote: objection why damdred and not sicklucker Nothing SL posted after deadline will influence my read. But yeah he should be modkilled too. There were several warnings and both of them were aware of when the deadline was. | ||
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On February 06 2015 08:28 Holyflare wrote: mafia batsnacks got so salty I PMed everyone and their family. | ||
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Did you know that LS? I am your biggest fan. | ||
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On February 06 2015 21:45 Koshi wrote: Well that is not convincing at all. Do you think he made it up? | ||
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On February 06 2015 21:49 Koshi wrote: Battie, why is nobody calling you scum? You called me scum. You think marv's read on palmar is bad though? | ||
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On February 06 2015 21:54 Koshi wrote: It think it is the worst read since Adam trusted Eve around an apple tree. In his defense, lies hadn't been invented yet. | ||
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On February 06 2015 22:00 Koshi wrote: Why did you asks these question? Cause I wanted to know what you thought. | ||
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"Damn" I didn't think that was worth posting at the time. | ||
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On February 07 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote: lol now what is it? association? i have less exclamation points than normal!!!!!! No, it's poe. Or so he's claiming. | ||
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On February 07 2015 02:39 rsoultin wrote: ah poe. sure that at least isnt complete bs Yeah it's a pretty big step up from emoticon analysis actually | ||
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The ridgepole sags to its breaking point Who is this town's ridgepole? | ||
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On February 07 2015 05:39 rsoultin wrote: only reason to read marv town imo is his claim it's not palmar because why? it's not breshke because there's no cc it's not ls because ls is saying what he thinks without a filter you're hardly adorable. but still 95% town. your scum game was terrible xP everyone tring bats when he's done nothing I can see to be townread for (maybe it's in the pages I haven't read yet @.@) is an argument for his being mafia, not against your poe is flawed, eden that said, I still want to kill koshi. gonna take some time to see if I still feel that way when i'm caught up, but that's where I am right now This comes off to me as just a whole lot of "Why me and not <x>?" Can't you just write a couple simple sentences about what you've done instead of making excuses and pointing fingers elsewhere? It's really easy look I'll do it for me as an example: 1) I pushed SL. 2) I pushed breshke. | ||
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A ridgepole is the central support structure of a roof. When the ends are weak, the roof will sag and excessive pressure is put on the center. The ridgepole sags to it's breaking point and the roof collapses. | ||
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On February 07 2015 06:29 rsoultin wrote: Or people could read. For instance, if you'd read you'd know that I pushed SL while you were busy going on about him then suddenly digressed onto a "Breshke is passive" hype. Like, literally I have no clue what you were doing Day 1 in your filter. You kept saying Breshke was the lynch but agreeing that all the other lynches were good, too? Wth? I've been engaging with the people in the thread here in the evenings trying to work out alignments, pushed LS before deciding he was town, talked to Onegu about both of his shit reads, picked out you as the oddball from the voting analysis no one else bothered to do. Kept saying the scumreads on Damdred didn't make sense. Read. My damn. Filter. I don't need to read your filter I've read every post in this game at least twice. My job is intensely boring and I frequently have nothing to do but read what you write. I think the same is true for a lot of people that play this game... so yeah... we're all reading, so saying "go back and reread" is condescending. I was actually trying to help you out... what I posted is exactly what the people pressuring you want. | ||
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On February 07 2015 06:38 rsoultin wrote: just frustrated -_- I'm going to just leave the thread and not come back until I'm caught up, I think. Btw, I do want to know why you seemed to think all the wagons were good Day 1. The SL wagon was good initially because he was posting, not playing, and posting about not playing. Also spite voting people who are dicks is great. The breshke wagon was excellent. I stand by everything I said and did. I just accidentally caught a blue instead of a red. They're really similar. The jat wagon was good because he wasn't contributing up to his normal, high, standards. Also the bullying people out of voting him, whoever said it, is true. The onegu wagon was good because onegu didn't do anything, claimed he would step it up, and never did. | ||
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On February 07 2015 06:48 LightningStrike wrote: She can be insanely bad because I remember in a pregame for one of the mafia games i played with her I told her to just sheep my reads obv I forgot to tell her to do it this game but she would be scummy as hell for it though lol.... lol LS why would RS be scummy for sheeping your reads? Are your reads that scummy? | ||
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the lake rises over the treetops, but such conditions are temporary. Thus the superior man, when he stands alone, is unconcerned. Like a tree which stands strong even though it stands alone. And if he must renounce the world he is undaunted. We lynch HF tomorrow. | ||
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On February 07 2015 07:40 Eden1892 wrote: sigh I always find myself asking "Is this the game?" in these situations Relax bro You can trust me I'm your friend | ||
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On February 07 2015 08:14 Holyflare wrote: dunno why bats is voting me, completely wasted vote I'm voting you because I think you are mafia. | ||
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On February 07 2015 08:21 Holyflare wrote: yes but why and why are you ignoring everything else in the game? What makes you think I'm ignoring everything else in the game? You shouldn't take the rsoultin approach... | ||
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On February 07 2015 08:28 Holyflare wrote: you said you were reading the thread and we've given great reasons for people that aren't me and I'm town anyway so if you are voting me that makes your points on me being mafia higher than everyone elses for being mafia. Since it is literally impossible for your points to outweigh their points since i'm town and you haven't actually posted reasons why i'm mafia you're not actually playing the game at all and are instead wasting your vote Why not have input in actual discussions if you're so bored at work all the time? You've been lurking the entire night Mostly because it's hard to do anything but read on my personal phone. Typing is laggy as hell and copy/pasting and multitab browsing are pretty much impossible. My work phone is a lot nicer but I don't play mafia on that for obvious reasons. As far as reasons... idk... you're just not town HF. You said yourself you were in rare form this game e.g. not being invested and trolling d1. I move my vote around a lot right now I think this is the best place for it. | ||
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On February 07 2015 08:45 Holyflare wrote: Got some bad news for your i ching then bats The I Ching doesn't lie we only lie to ourselves. | ||
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On February 07 2015 08:47 Holyflare wrote: Actually Yeh that joke wasn't as awkward as koshi implied it to be so could potentially be mafia picking on mafia joke HF I can get you lynched for being bad like koshi. | ||
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On February 07 2015 08:48 Holyflare wrote: Um I don't see what's bad about that statement You think koshi bused me for a semen joke? lol | ||
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On February 07 2015 08:51 Eden1892 wrote: What the fuck are you doing. Did Iching say lynch Breshke? Or SL? Great reads this game Can you really say that breshke or SL were bad reads when I made them? | ||
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Well I don't remember that. And I humbly disagree. HF is mafia though. | ||
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On February 07 2015 09:04 rsoultin wrote: any more questions before i ignore y'all for awhile? What do you think your scummiest post is? I need help writing a case on you so your cooperation is much appreciated. | ||
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On February 07 2015 10:41 Holyflare wrote: and so is his hf read ^^ No I'm right about that one and people who are town know that. | ||
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Why is HF town though? "Mind meld" is lame don't say that. | ||
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On February 07 2015 10:52 Breshke wrote: Bats if HF is scum who is his partner assuming there is 3 I don't know I'm taking baby steps. When a man wishes to undertake an enterprise in extraordinary times, he must be extraordinarily cautious, just as when setting a heavy thing down on the floor, one takes care to put rushes under it, so that nothing will break. | ||
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On February 07 2015 11:04 Holyflare wrote: I wasn't even trolling the end of d1 Pls help. Who is mafia other than jat? And me obviously. | ||
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On February 07 2015 11:19 Holyflare wrote: it's likely rsoul who has absolutely vanished again That's so easy. Give me experimental big targets. | ||
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On February 07 2015 11:28 Eden1892 wrote: why are you asking him to make up reads bats I don't want made up I want the truth. | ||
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On February 07 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote: I'm waffling on bats. He seems to have been super reluctant (except for saying jat is a justified lynch near EoD) to vote/push/pressure jat all game. I also see jat defending bats a lot. Which makes me think that if jat is scum, bats may either be his partner, or just pocketed town. Some of bats' later posting makes me think the latter, because all of his "this is also a good lynch" stuff from EoD checks out. His read on you, bresh, not so much though I think that may just be me on he not seeing you as terribly scummy Day 1. Bats, can you tell me why breshke being "passive" caused you to switch to him from SL? I know that you mentioned that SL responded well to your vote on him, but what was the tipping point? I switched to SL because I was the only one voting breshke. On February 06 2015 07:54 batsnacks wrote: I'm switching to SL in 5 minutes. On February 06 2015 07:57 batsnacks wrote: I am sorry I couldn't get breshke lynched. | ||
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On February 08 2015 02:07 rsoultin wrote: That wasn't the question. The question was why you switched from SL to Breshke the night before? That was d1 there was no night yet? | ||
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On February 08 2015 02:09 justanothertownie wrote: Please don't. It is really really unhelpful. I know I'm being good. I swear that's all I'm going to say about it. | ||
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On February 08 2015 02:10 rsoultin wrote: I mean the literal night -_- You're in the U.S. so our nights are the same. You have to know what I mean by you switching from SL to Breshke. I can find the quotes if you don't remember. Oh I know what you mean. It was because SL had some really decent responses to my half-case on him: + Show Spoiler + On February 04 2015 22:09 batsnacks wrote: SL is mafia this game here's why: Post game in Void mafia he went on this cocky spiel about how he doesn't try any harder than he needs to as mafia because he doesn't want to reveal all his skills in one game. This game he starts out saying he won't be contributing and he isn't. Voting Damdred is also consistent with this theory because the people in this game SL considers "strong players" are all voting Damdred and sheeping them is an easy way to stay off their radar. Instead of trying to contribute far out original theories like town SL does he is deferring to people like marv, asking them if things are "weird," as if asking for approval. | ||
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On February 08 2015 02:17 rsoultin wrote: That's your case and not his points, bats? Okay, so why do you think HF is mafia over jat? It isn't easy to track SL's responses. I think HF is mafia over jat because I think jat is doing more for town than HF is. Jat's recent case is really good too and makes me feel even better about my vote. + Show Spoiler + On February 04 2015 22:51 sicklucker wrote: thats not even true. My mafia strategy in my last 2 back to back scum games was to spam the thread. On February 04 2015 23:40 sicklucker wrote: I still try to win tho. Once I have the win in the void thats when I dont try On February 04 2015 23:41 sicklucker wrote: wait what. Your sheeping freakin batsnacks marv? Are you retarded On February 04 2015 23:42 sicklucker wrote: Wheres my lie dandred? I tried really hard as scum 2x inarow day 1. I play to win. When I have the win locked up is when I take it easy. Its not rocket science On February 05 2015 00:50 sicklucker wrote: Like I honestly dont believe bats thinks im mafia. He voted me BEFORE HE SAID WHY. Then he made up a reason for voting me based on things that happened after he voted on me. I think hes salty over last game and mafia On February 05 2015 00:52 sicklucker wrote: Its actually a really bad reason to think im mafia. absolutely terrible. Like actually read his scum read on me. And then think of how I played my last two games. It does not make sense. On February 05 2015 00:56 sicklucker wrote: This game was already won in my mind when I got confirmed town. I DONT TRY MORE THEN I HAVE TO. but I do TRY. This game I am not trying and hes trying to put scum on that but he should be getting the opposite read if anything. This second part didnt even happen did it? I made my own reads from reading 3 pages and posted that and told you to all shove it. | ||
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On February 08 2015 02:33 rsoultin wrote: you know, the number of times you say things that are untrue is getting annoying if all I did was mock his case then why was I questioning him on one of his points? Where did your questions get you rs? Do you think jat is mafia? | ||
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On February 08 2015 02:36 rsoultin wrote: you still haven't answered my questions, bats and yes, yes I do. his vote on sl at EoD was weird I answered all of your questions. | ||
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On February 08 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote: Sorry, didn't see it. What exactly is jat doing for this game? I'll grant that HF isn't doing much, either, particularly in the very beginning, but I don't see anything amazing from jat. His case came after you were so certain it was HF. jat's HF case is amazing. You're the only one that doesn't think so. And it doesn't really matter when the case came relative to my vote. Associating jat's case with my vote is not a valid criticism of the case. My vote needs to be bad or scummy independent of the case. The case needs to be bad or scummy independent of my vote. | ||
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On February 08 2015 02:46 rsoultin wrote: EBWOP: If it makes one scum, how does it not make the other equally scum? This case just doesn't impress me, and frankly I'm fully expecting to be pushed Day 3 regardless of which one of these two is lynched this phase because they've set me up very nicely for it. Why would you say this jat's case doesn't implicate you at all? | ||
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On February 08 2015 02:48 rsoultin wrote: I'm trying to understand your vote, not paint it scummy, bats. Your vote came before the case. My vote was awesome and HF already quoted my explanation twice and you keep saying you don't understand like that will make it go away. HF understands and the vote is on him. Why don't you? | ||
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On February 08 2015 02:50 rsoultin wrote: Lol, no? What has he been screaming about in the thread all day? jat's case is 100% about HF, not you. | ||
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On February 08 2015 02:52 rsoultin wrote: The trolling -_- I guess I just don't put as much weight on that as you apparently do. "The trolling -_-" is a gross misrepresentation of what I wrote. | ||
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As far as reasons... idk... you're just not town HF. You said yourself you were in rare form this game e.g. not being invested and trolling d1. I move my vote around a lot right now I think this is the best place for it. 1) "idk," that means I don't think my reasons are strong. 2) "you're just not town HF," that means I don't think HF is playing his town meta. 3) HF said himself he was in rare form this game. That means 2) is valid. 4) HF is usually heavily invested in games as town and HF has trolled more in his recent scum games e.g. Linux mafia. 5) I move my vote around a lot, that means I like to use it to pressure people. 6) I think HF is the most deserving of pressure because 3) and 4). So you can disagree but you would be wrong. | ||
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On February 08 2015 03:05 rsoultin wrote: Fair enough. I don't know how HF plays his town games. I just can remember a whole lot more interesting coming from HF than I can from jat. Gonna just leave and read some old games. You're wasting your time. Not that I actually think you're going to read old games I think you just feel like you need an excuse to exit the thread. Go back and read -this- game... your time would be much better spent. | ||
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On February 08 2015 03:13 rsoultin wrote: I've read this game, you twit. That's my problem; I like HF more than I like jat this game, even with him pushing me hardest of anyone. I don't know anything about trolling and whether that's alignment-indicative or not, but he's been much less aggressive this game than in the other two I played with him when he was scum. He seems less sure of his reads, and believe it or not, I think that makes him town, because when he was scum he seemed sure about everything. Could he be fooling me? Hell yes. But I don't think he's more likely to flip scum than jat based on this game. If you've read this game and you are serious, then I don't think it's possible to finish jat's case thinking "so what?" | ||
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On February 08 2015 03:25 rsoultin wrote: xP what is the purpose of this post, anyway? either I'm scum and you're right or I'm town and you're wrong. y'all can keep liking his case if you want. it wasn't that great the first time, and it's not that great now, imo Why though? | ||
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On February 08 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote: Okay, so, the argument is that I'm HF's scummate playing badly. Let's just stop pretending jat is trying to say anything else here. HF scumreads me most of the night, then when I'm not in the thread actually doing anything and a lot of other people are, and yes, are acting more scummy than my being inactive could ever be, HF switches to them. Can he do that as town or scum? Yes. Does that mean he ever stopped thinking I was scum if he was town? No, it doesn't. Does him picking me back up when all his scumreads flipped town make him scum? Uh...no, cause as town if he's racking and stacking scumreads and I'm number 3 or 4 on the list, the others flip town, of course he turns back to scumreading me. There is nothing in this long line of quotes that makes HF scum. At best it's null. On February 08 2015 03:47 rsoultin wrote: The first point here is the one that makes my skin crawl. Jat demonstrably didn't have a strong preference for either SL or Onegu at EoD, but he did clearly think Damdred wasn't scum while trying to argue marv and palmar off Damdred's wagon. Who in this thread thinks that's gonna happen? lol Yet when it comes down to it he doesn't switch to Onegu to protect his townread. This is exactly how I caught Celestial several games ago. The second point is fine, but not strong. People have bad reasons to scumread people (see Eden's read on my emoticons) all the time. The third is just wrong because SL was not going to be the lynch Day 1. Tie that back into 1. Four I'd have to check, cause I don't remember jat's poe precisely, though I do remember a lot of people saying that poe simply reflected thread sentiment and was yawn-worthy. Five is a useless point anyway. It just assumes that HF is scum. And if you look at every single one of these points they're not actually about HF being scum, but rather jat defending himself from HF's points, and yet people are calling this a case on HF? You guys are seeing lots of text and calling it good. I just see jat trying to point the finger back at HF because he knows the lynch is going to be between him and HF today, and town loves to fall for these longass cases without really reading them. So what? | ||
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On February 08 2015 04:00 justanothertownie wrote: Tempted to just lynch you first tbh. Don't do it jat. She's done more than HF today. | ||
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On February 08 2015 05:20 rsoultin wrote: For me it's mostly just how he was behaving at EoD and being pretty forgettable the rest of the game. Sure, he fought back against people scumreading him, but I don't remember him helping trying to solve the game or anything. (And yes, mostly I'm just going off what I've seen many others say in the thread about Jat's town game being infinitely better than this.) Pretty sure I've got him dead to rights on that SL vote though ^^ You've been talking about jat's case for hours so saying you don't remember him trying to solve the game isn't really fair. Like if jat is town that case is a massive effort at trying to solve the game. Also jat rarely makes cases in any game... he's more of a conversational player so again, the case is a big deal. Can you explain the SL vote thing and why it makes him scummy? I voted SL and I didn't give any reasons for it. Do you have me dead to rights too? | ||
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On February 08 2015 05:39 rsoultin wrote: I can't speak for everyone else; I'm sorry. If there's anything else you want from me, just ask? Vote HF? I swear he's the better lynch I wouldn't lie as either alignment about this. | ||
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On February 08 2015 05:44 rsoultin wrote: You'd have to convince me he's the better lynch with logic, bats. I'm not sure that you're town, and even if I was, I generally don't blindly follow people unless I have no other choice. That's sort of the point though. HF is logically the better lynch right now. jat did things today, HF hasn't. YOU have done more today than HF. HF is the better lynch. | ||
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On February 08 2015 08:11 justanothertownie wrote: I am so cool I get 2 votes. Why are you wasting your 2nd vote? | ||
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On February 09 2015 00:54 batsnacks wrote: I could vote LS maybe... that person that said he was just going along with thread sentiment constantly (jat?) was right. I've only played with mafia LS once but he absolutely did this that game. | ||
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On February 09 2015 00:53 Holyflare wrote: If i was just going by today and ignoring everything else it would be ls/marv tbh :p I want to quote this for later. I think this is maybe important. | ||
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On February 09 2015 01:04 justanothertownie wrote: LS and you probably? With an outside chance of batsnacks but I really don't believe he is mafia. Or marv but I really don't believe this either. If Eden is scum this game we can just concede. That's never the case. Breshke is confirmed town. Why do you think marv is scummy today? | ||
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marv and breshke are the remaining mafia. Breshke is a mafia vig, he shot koshi. They did this because breshke and koshi were already highly suspected and likely to get lynched. Also the number of VTs that died makes this more do-able. Marv shot palmar because palmar would have figured out his alignment the longer the game went on. I originally thought it was HF + breshke because it seems like a play HF would do but I think this is right. | ||
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On February 09 2015 01:20 batsnacks wrote: I've solved the game. marv and breshke are the remaining mafia. Breshke is a mafia vig, he shot koshi. They did this because breshke and koshi were already highly suspected and likely to get lynched. Also the number of VTs that died makes this more do-able. Marv shot palmar because palmar would have figured out his alignment the longer the game went on. I originally thought it was HF + breshke because it seems like a play HF would do but I think this is right. | ||
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On February 09 2015 01:25 justanothertownie wrote: Bats if Breshke was scumvig he would have just shot a townie instead and we would have been in LYLO instantly. We would have lynched breshke and koshi. What they did is flashier and just as good. | ||
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On February 09 2015 01:27 justanothertownie wrote: Marv is not a flashy scum player though :/ It's just as good though. They get a confirmed town, breshke, and marv has his miller claim. It's a great plan. | ||
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He's town. This is consistent with my actions today. They are not going to let me live after I just solved the game anyway. | ||
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On February 09 2015 01:40 justanothertownie wrote: Get your fucking votes off me you scrubs. On February 09 2015 01:40 justanothertownie wrote: Get your fucking votes off me you scrubs. On February 09 2015 01:40 justanothertownie wrote: Get your fucking votes off me you scrubs. | ||
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On February 09 2015 01:45 LightningStrike wrote: Bats is unCCed blue atm and so Breshke but idk why mafia wouldn't kill Breshke though when he claimed at N1. I missing something I think. You're not missing anything that's why breshke is mafia. | ||
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On February 09 2015 01:47 Eden1892 wrote: Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute. 10 people left. 2 shot scum vig 2 other mafia. Scum shoots 2 town. 4-3 Town lynches scum. 4-2 Scum shoots 2 town. 2-2 scum wins. This doesn't make sense anymore It does if breshke got lynched... which he does without the vig claim. | ||
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On February 09 2015 01:51 Eden1892 wrote: Nah. For one I'm not sure Breshke was getting lynched over Koshi d2. For another even if he were, you shoot to put town in LYLO in that situation all the time I would argue that breshke was almost certainly getting lynched up until the moment he claimed. | ||
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On February 09 2015 01:57 Eden1892 wrote: yo can we lynch marv instead lol Either one is okay imo. Same outcome. breshke can't shoot and do factional kp in the same night can he? | ||
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On February 09 2015 01:59 justanothertownie wrote: Usually mafia players can use their role and carry KP. If this is true we need to lynch breshke. I am all in on my marv+breshke theory. | ||
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On February 09 2015 02:52 marvellosity wrote: HF is 100% mafia, don't tell I didn't tell you so Eden. DO NOT SAY I DID NOT TELL YOU SO. jat is mafia too? | ||
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If he's town we get to ruin his streak which is cool cause he gave up and deserves it. If he's mafia we get mafia. | ||
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On February 09 2015 06:58 batsnacks wrote: I've already posted what I think is going on. I made a decision when I claimed. Before I made that decision I considered various setup possibilities people have posted. I still think I'm right and nothing has happened yet that would or should change my mind. | ||
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On February 09 2015 07:15 marvellosity wrote: don't know, don't care. either i get lynched today and i have a giggle about it (am very zen and amused about this) and you kill HF (which you must, do NOT LET HIM TALK HIS WAY OUT) or you lynch HF i accept nothing else Why is it HF? | ||
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On February 09 2015 07:17 marvellosity wrote: I don't know how to explain it. The way he's treated me the whole game. The way he put me in a PoE list but later explained that I was 100% town (his words) the way he later fell off his read of me. HF knows me very very very very well. he knows i cannot play like this as mafia that's why when i came back to the thread earlier I voted HF in the votethread before i even read any of the thread (most of which i haven't read) because him voting for me is a direct scumclaim. Literally just a scumclaim. But only I know it. I'm not trying to trivialize the point you are trying to make, but the jist of it is that HF should know you're town and he doesn't? What about jat's case? Did you read that? | ||
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I am going back to bolded: On February 09 2015 01:20 batsnacks wrote: I've solved the game. marv and breshke are the remaining mafia. Breshke is a mafia vig, he shot koshi. They did this because breshke and koshi were already highly suspected and likely to get lynched. Also the number of VTs that died makes this more do-able. Marv shot palmar because palmar would have figured out his alignment the longer the game went on. I originally thought it was HF + breshke because it seems like a play HF would do but I think this is right. ##unvote ##vote HF | ||
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On February 09 2015 07:31 marvellosity wrote: Eden claimed miller, I counterclaimed him, Eden lol-voted me, then Eden cleared me at the time for counterclaiming him correctly i might add because it would be fucking stupid as shit for me to cc there Yeah I understand that, I just didn't remember it happening that way. | ||
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On February 09 2015 07:42 marvellosity wrote: was there reasons that Breshke was mafia that i haven't read? I don't know what you have or haven't read, but I think breshke shot koshi. | ||
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On February 09 2015 07:44 marvellosity wrote: why? Breshke can not claim and shoot town and then even if we lynched Breshke day 2, town would still have to lynch scum for the next 2 days as well If breshke gets lynched, which I think he is without the claim, town still has a ml. Also HF looks great for the stuff he said about koshi n1. | ||
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On February 09 2015 07:57 marvellosity wrote: ok i'm gonna make a protein shake, this is going too slow SHOCK: marv is mafia HF is town and this post is lewd | ||
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On February 10 2015 00:57 marvellosity wrote: because i had to literally say "100%" there? no What? | ||
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On February 10 2015 00:59 marvellosity wrote: if i am mafia and i am lynching a townie i do not need to say "100%" and have people go "but your 100% reads are never wrong" You weren't lynching a townie, you were getting lynched . It's not like you weren't under pressure and just 'lynched a townie.' | ||
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On February 10 2015 01:32 marvellosity wrote: literally the most obvious bus i have ever seen in my life lol | ||
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On February 10 2015 02:33 Eden1892 wrote: I just said he's highest % play but y'all can't blame me for wanting marv when that dude is straight up getting carried and coasting on a miller claim that isn't that hard to fake It's your fault for fake claiming, you know. | ||
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On February 08 2015 02:09 justanothertownie wrote: Please don't. It is really really unhelpful. | ||
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On February 10 2015 04:44 justanothertownie wrote: Do you have any opinion on who is scum bats? Or who should be shot? If breshke is town he should just do whatever he wants and tell us later. If he's mafia he should shoot me. I don't think anything can stop me from auto voting marv tomorrow but we'll see what happens. | ||
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On February 10 2015 04:51 justanothertownie wrote: So this means you still think it could be breshke + marv or ..??? It means my vote probably isn't going to do a lot of moving around tomorrow. | ||
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On February 10 2015 04:57 Eden1892 wrote: Bats why did you claim doc? Because I'm the doc. | ||
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On February 10 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote: Bats, not everyone just doesn't give a shit :/ That's not what I said or what I meant. If breshke is the town vig then he is town. He is more sure of his own alignment and agenda than any of ours. | ||
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On February 10 2015 07:42 Eden1892 wrote: um i'm clearly town and my agenda is pretty open so i'm not sure where this is coming from. who did you save n1? Your agenda is chaos. Your filter is absolutely horrendous. | ||
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On February 10 2015 07:49 justanothertownie wrote: Bats... this will not be productive. I've been so good... sorry. | ||
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On February 10 2015 07:51 Eden1892 wrote: If I'm apparently playing so bad, why haven't you stepped up and done anything to help me see it or help town ignore me and go to work despite my badness? This post is really giving me a bad feeling about bats. I know it's not his game to be in the middle of everything and making town do things, but this guy sounds like he's content to let town suffer through my apparently poor play. I've never commented on anything you said or did. Take what you will from that. | ||
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If my opinion needs to be valuable, it's lynch marv asap. | ||
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On February 10 2015 08:06 Breshke wrote: hahahahaha Bats explain your thought process in claiming doctor when you did My thought process was "fuck eden I bet this will piss him off" | ||
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On February 10 2015 09:05 LightningStrike wrote: nice try bats first you claimed Cop and "Green Check" JAT then you Claim Medic then you Claim Cop again. You can't keep a straight story and I know you can as town bats. Talk dirty to me LS. Call me animal names. | ||
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On February 10 2015 09:10 marvellosity wrote: seems way more likely a town does that... sigh Stop it. Let him keep going. | ||
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On February 10 2015 09:16 LightningStrike wrote: Also there is no way JAT would be seen green on a real cop check so therefore I think bats is mafia because only GF would appear green to a Cop check and JAT was a goon not a GF. LS is either a next level super-troll from the future sent to humble us or... He's town because he doesn't know why my jat check was green. | ||
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On February 10 2015 09:46 rsoultin wrote: Well you're obviously confirmed town, and I've been so positive that Marv is town ever since I actually caught up with the thread... Bats, what with all his claims, and bailing jat out, seems to be the obvious scum here, with ls behind as poe. ls has been acting weirdly confident all game except at certain key points, like bats' claim. But I'm having a hard time seeing either of them not conceding with jat and koshi dead. There's no possible way there could be 4 mafia in this game, is there? You're not LS so there is zero excuse: why are you putting any weight into bolded what so ever? | ||
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On February 10 2015 09:51 rsoultin wrote: lol, I've made it very clear how much I dislike fake claims on multiple occasions xP i'm past the lynch-all-liars stage, bats, but it doesn't strengthen your position. You conveniently bolded the less significant portion. Bailing jats out of the lynch yesterday is obviously more suspicious jat was leading in votes, would have been lynched 100% without my claim, had just made a case on someone I thought he would logically think is mafia as town, AND I had a theory that explained all of the bizarre night actions. So I claimed. AND IT WAS A MISTAKE | ||
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On February 10 2015 09:54 LightningStrike wrote: Bats you dodging my question and here it is again and I need you to answer as truthfully as you can: What are you going to do if I ignore you, vote me? | ||
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On February 10 2015 10:04 rsoultin wrote: bats, did you ever explain your theory on breshke and marv? having a different theory doesn't make you scum, but I don't recall the reasoning. why would you check breshke anyway if you thought it was breshke and marv? marv is a claimed miller. he would always check red to a cop, whether his claim was true or not. if you believe breshke and marv are scum, you believe jat is town. you're supposedly a cop. why would you check someone who is likely a godfather or a framer, in your scum world? or did you think scum had no roles this game? I checked breshke because I figured I was dead and wanted closure on my now confirmed incorrect theory. Hindsight is 20/20. | ||
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On February 10 2015 10:11 rsoultin wrote: where did your theory come from, bats? you were perfectly fine saying that you were wrong and bresh was blue when he first claimed breshke claimed n1. My theory was d2. | ||
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On February 10 2015 10:19 LightningStrike wrote: Also the ninja vote is real why you voting Marv bats? You should tell me why it's scummy before I tell you why I'm voting him. | ||
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On February 10 2015 10:24 rsoultin wrote: okay, but what was your theory based on? breshke being alive and not rb'd? if you're town, bats, you have to help me out here because I'm having a really hard time finding a reason not to lynch you On February 09 2015 01:20 batsnacks wrote: I've solved the game. marv and breshke are the remaining mafia. Breshke is a mafia vig, he shot koshi. They did this because breshke and koshi were already highly suspected and likely to get lynched. Also the number of VTs that died makes this more do-able. Marv shot palmar because palmar would have figured out his alignment the longer the game went on. I originally thought it was HF + breshke because it seems like a play HF would do but I think this is right. | ||
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On February 10 2015 10:27 LightningStrike wrote: Because you can't just vote no reason and you showed no reason to vote him after you said your scum team was wrong with 20/20 hindsight. I said before end of night that there was very little chance of me not voting marv today. You were around then. Why is it an issue now? | ||
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On February 10 2015 10:30 LightningStrike wrote: I forgot you did say that but what is the reason for voting him over me or rsoultin? That is a really good question and I'm not even being facetious. | ||
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On February 10 2015 10:36 rsoultin wrote: Breshke is confirmed town, regardless, LS. Unless you think he shot both his scumbuddies and bats fake-claimed cop as town, because otherwise he can't get a green-check on scum jat. Koshi and jat weren't the vig, so if Breshke is the mafia vig, there is no framer. If breshke is the framer he could have framed himself and shot jat but... let's just not do that today. | ||
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On February 10 2015 10:38 batsnacks wrote: If breshke is the framer he could have framed himself and shot jat but... let's just not do that today. NO HE COULDN'T HAVE | ||
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On February 10 2015 10:54 rsoultin wrote: ... damn. just damn. if marv's the miller, bats is the cop. and if marv's not the miller, he's scum, and bats is still probably the cop. the lynch today isn't between bats and ls >< it's between ls and marv Assuming I know this, why am I voting marv? And where is your place? | ||
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1) I am too stubborn to unvote you 2) you're not the miller Unless I'm missing something huge the me/jat theory doesn't have a place in this game and I don't know why you're considering it. | ||
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On February 10 2015 20:50 marvellosity wrote: what i would say is that it's very very risky to claim cop when there's a miller in the game. that's the strongest point in your favour A miller AND a framer. Not that you know there's a framer because you're doubting me for some reason that I can't comprehend. | ||
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Or you're gonna lynch me for being jats partner? Or you're going to pick whichever is most convenient any lynch me regardless? | ||
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On February 10 2015 21:02 marvellosity wrote: i don't comprehend how anyone can be so bad at reading Seems to be a lot you don't comprehend but I'm here to help. | ||
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On February 10 2015 21:07 marvellosity wrote: if you think i'm mafia in this spot, you should just stop playing mafia ever again, because you're never going to be competent I don't play mafia to be competent I play mafia to fuck with people like you. Seriously though if you have any doubts about my alignment today is the day to get rid of me. | ||
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On February 10 2015 22:54 rsoultin wrote: No? I know I thought his claim seemed townie at the time. But the reasons you're giving are meta, and you're voting for him anyway. And his reason for voting you flat-out denies that anyone could possibly think he's scum. I don't know him that well, but I don't think he's that stupid. You didn't think marv was stupid when he lynched HF for the exact same thing. | ||
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On February 10 2015 23:27 LightningStrike wrote: I did and I think he really is town just dumb town. I think if he's town I found my mafia. I love you rsoultin but I think your the last mafia this game despite me not wanting to admit but I think you got to be mafia just by PoE alone and the fact that you forgot how confident I was in Student V. I;m sorry if this will hurt your feelings rsoultin. ##Vote: rsoultin This is the last mafia. | ||
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On February 10 2015 23:31 marvellosity wrote: If LS is mafia, his mafia game is 1000x better than in Student IV, though. Yeah but it's still very similar. Once his allies die he sheeps the strong townie. | ||
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On February 10 2015 23:33 marvellosity wrote: he does this as town I think? I'll have to recheck but I'm sure I remember a game where he's just following votes around could be misremembering, and the database isn't up to date I could also be misremembering but I don't recall a game where he was town and did this. He usually had weird theories based on meta... Which he tried to emulate at the beginning what with quoting all the past games. | ||
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On February 10 2015 23:42 marvellosity wrote: I think the direct opposite. Just opened Carol, first thing I notice is that LS's filter is already 7 pages longer in this game than when he was town in that game :/ do you want to talk about rs's rebuttal? | ||
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On February 11 2015 10:53 rsoultin wrote: mine would have come back green, bats, so no worries. your checks couldn't be trusted with a framer, which you had to know we had I had no idea about the framer until jat flipped. The only thing I had considered was that jat was gf. Framing jat n1 never crossed my mind. edit: Like lightning, I actually had to go back and read the op to check if framers could reverse alignment checks as opposed to just making them come up as guilty. | ||
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On February 11 2015 10:58 Half the Sky wrote: Ahhhh so this was a yolo check? I didn't realise nor could I tell from your posts. Damn, I'm sorry then. I will NOT be nominating you for the WTF award then Sort of yolo. I just didn't realize that framers could make mafia look inno. It's my fault for not paying enough attention to the OP but I'm not used to framers being able to do that. It was a shock when jat flipped mafia AND he wasn't gf. | ||
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On February 11 2015 11:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Framers can make mafia look innocent in like 99% of setups afaik. First time I've encountered a framer on TL. Also the first time I've encountered a framer that can make mafia look innocent. | ||
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On February 11 2015 23:30 marvellosity wrote: At least the cop made the checks that mafia would have handpicked themselves on both nights. Some cracking cop play. I like when you talk about me. <3 | ||
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On February 11 2015 23:38 marvellosity wrote: Well the N2 check didn't matter so much. But in N1 you checked into the very clear frame target. LS/rsoultin - this is where the check should be looking N1 Kisses XoXoXo | ||
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