Horn of Africa Mini Mafia

On February 04 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@eden Why are you sheeping palmer if you don't get where damdred's questions are going from a mafia POV?

On February 04 2015 22:09 batsnacks wrote:
SL is mafia this game here's why:

Post game in Void mafia he went on this cocky spiel about how he doesn't try any harder than he needs to as mafia because he doesn't want to reveal all his skills in one game. This game he starts out saying he won't be contributing and he isn't. Voting Damdred is also consistent with this theory because the people in this game SL considers "strong players" are all voting Damdred and sheeping them is an easy way to stay off their radar. Instead of trying to contribute far out original theories like town SL does he is deferring to people like marv, asking them if things are "weird," as if asking for approval.

On February 04 2015 22:57 Koshi wrote:

Why are you ok being tunneled in this pretty talented town, but felt miserable while being tunneled by the scrubs in last game? You even 100% townread the people tunneling you. It makes 0 sense.

Work with me bro

On February 05 2015 03:07 batsnacks wrote:
Breshke is too passive I'm moving my vote to him

##vote Breshke

On February 05 2015 08:14 batsnacks wrote:
I'm around if anyone wants to chit chat.

On February 05 2015 08:37 batsnacks wrote:


This is referring to SL?

On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense.

On February 05 2015 08:42 batsnacks wrote:




This is only half true for SL then.

Yeah he usually tries to figure out the game or acts like it is already solved as town but... he also makes shit up left and right and posts irrelevant nonsense as town.

On February 06 2015 00:42 batsnacks wrote:
I think we should disregard any contributions Damdred has made so far and policy lynch him for this weak bitchy marytr stuff.

On February 06 2015 00:47 batsnacks wrote:


Not really. I don't agree with his SL read but i don't think jat would lie about an SL read as any alignment so... not much to say.

On February 06 2015 02:45 batsnacks wrote:


I'd vote you if that makes you feel better.

Breshke though... Really...

On February 06 2015 07:26 batsnacks wrote:


Why do you think onegu and SL are town? That's a pretty unique position you have and it would probably help town a lot if you explained it better as they and you are the biggest targets right now.

On February 06 2015 07:18 Breshke wrote:


No its just early for me



The first game i played with SL, rayn had this sick read on him where yeah everything he said was bullshit but you could tell he believed everything he was saying. Im getting the same vibe from him here. He talks so much crap but i think he believes the shit he is saying.

Onegu feels really relaxed and in my limited experience that generally indicates not mafia. This could be wrong because ive never played in a non newbie game as town so ive never had to scumhunt in a pool of more experienced players. Also the thirst to survive i would expect from scum isn't really there.

On February 06 2015 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:
What you mean be Zen?

On February 06 2015 07:46 batsnacks wrote:


Go away

On February 06 2015 21:53 batsnacks wrote:


You called me scum.

You think marv's read on palmar is bad though?

On February 06 2015 21:53 batsnacks wrote:


You called me scum.

You think marv's read on palmar is bad though?

On February 07 2015 02:28 Eden1892 wrote:
I haven't read anything since getting to work. But I had a Zen moment on the way to work that I gotta share.

Scum team is Holyflare rsoultin Koshi.

On February 07 2015 02:35 Eden1892 wrote:
It's not marv bc filter length.

It's not Palmar bc marv hitch.

It's not Breshke bc vig.

It's not LS cause EOD move vote.

It's not me cause I'm adorable

And it's not batsnacks cause everyone tr him.

So that leAves 4 and JAT/Hf aren't together. Then Zen moment says rise above own cloudy mind and seek truth. Truth says JAT town. Qed

On February 07 2015 05:03 batsnacks wrote:
The town is an old roof

The ridgepole sags to its breaking point

Who is this town's ridgepole?

On February 07 2015 06:19 batsnacks wrote:


This comes off to me as just a whole lot of

"Why me and not <x>?"

Can't you just write a couple simple sentences about what you've done instead of making excuses and pointing fingers elsewhere?

It's really easy look I'll do it for me as an example:

1) I pushed SL.
2) I pushed breshke.

On February 07 2015 06:35 batsnacks wrote:


I don't need to read your filter I've read every post in this game at least twice. My job is intensely boring and I frequently have nothing to do but read what you write. I think the same is true for a lot of people that play this game... so yeah... we're all reading, so saying "go back and reread" is condescending. I was actually trying to help you out... what I posted is exactly what the people pressuring you want.

On February 07 2015 06:47 marvellosity wrote:

that just means you haven't read anything around the lynch.

you are insanely bad or mafia. i'm going for mafia because i don't think you're insanely bad.

On February 07 2015 07:32 marvellosity wrote:
you'd think it would be easy to replicate, but he never does.

so... yeah

On February 07 2015 08:19 batsnacks wrote:


I'm voting you because I think you are mafia.

On February 07 2015 08:25 batsnacks wrote:


What makes you think I'm ignoring everything else in the game? You shouldn't take the rsoultin approach...

On February 07 2015 08:48 batsnacks wrote:


HF I can get you lynched for being bad like koshi.

On February 07 2015 08:53 batsnacks wrote:


Can you really say that breshke or SL were bad reads when I made them?

On February 07 2015 10:47 batsnacks wrote:


No I'm right about that one and people who are town know that.

On February 08 2015 02:05 batsnacks wrote:


I switched to SL because I was the only one voting breshke.

On February 08 2015 02:08 batsnacks wrote:
It is really hard for me not to throw fuel on this eden-fire.

On February 08 2015 02:08 batsnacks wrote:


That was d1 there was no night yet?

On February 08 2015 02:13 batsnacks wrote:


Oh I know what you mean. It was because SL had some really decent responses to my half-case on him:

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 08 2015 02:29 marvellosity wrote:

funny that all rsoultin did is mock the case then, right?

On February 08 2015 02:34 batsnacks wrote:


Where did your questions get you rs? Do you think jat is mafia?

On February 08 2015 02:37 batsnacks wrote:


I answered all of your questions.

On February 08 2015 02:42 rsoultin wrote:


Most of his case was about him, marv. At least that's how I read it.

Like, the HF dropping a read part and picking it back up again. So what? Does that make him scum? HF and Jat were literally accusing each other of the same thing...namely their reads on me and not pushing me.

On February 08 2015 02:46 batsnacks wrote:


jat's HF case is amazing. You're the only one that doesn't think so.

And it doesn't really matter when the case came relative to my vote. Associating jat's case with my vote is not a valid criticism of the case. My vote needs to be bad or scummy independent of the case. The case needs to be bad or scummy independent of my vote.

On February 08 2015 02:48 batsnacks wrote:


Why would you say this jat's case doesn't implicate you at all?

On February 08 2015 02:50 batsnacks wrote:


My vote was awesome and HF already quoted my explanation twice and you keep saying you don't understand like that will make it go away. HF understands and the vote is on him. Why don't you?

On February 08 2015 02:53 batsnacks wrote:


"The trolling -_-" is a gross misrepresentation of what I wrote.

On February 08 2015 03:02 batsnacks wrote:




1) "idk," that means I don't think my reasons are strong.

2) "you're just not town HF," that means I don't think HF is playing his town meta.

3) HF said himself he was in rare form this game. That means 2) is valid.

4) HF is usually heavily invested in games as town and HF has trolled more in his recent scum games e.g. Linux mafia.

5) I move my vote around a lot, that means I like to use it to pressure people.

6) I think HF is the most deserving of pressure because 3) and 4).

So you can disagree but you would be wrong.

On February 08 2015 03:06 batsnacks wrote:


You're wasting your time. Not that I actually think you're going to read old games I think you just feel like you need an excuse to exit the thread. Go back and read -this- game... your time would be much better spent.

On February 08 2015 03:20 batsnacks wrote:


If you've read this game and you are serious, then I don't think it's possible to finish jat's case thinking "so what?"

On February 07 2015 23:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so first of all HF is one of the best if not the best scum player on this site. You won't catch him for being inactive uninteresting or any of this shit and he will bus teammates who are playing badly. He will say towny stuff from time to time and he is also perfectly able to "mindmeld" with you at times. You need to look for the agenda he is pushing.

This is why he is mafia:

This is the start of his rsoultin scumread day1. From now on she is basically his #1 scumread.






But when the deadline comes nearer and people are not all about lynching rsoultin he completely forgets about the read. He isn't decided on who to lynch and has MULTIPLE different targets suddenly that he keeps pushing really hard:



Notice how ALL of those are town and he can jump between them as much as he wants if he is mafia. No mention of rsoulting ever during all of this.
So what has rsoultin done to make him forget about her? The answer is absolutely nothing. She disappeared like he will say himself later.

Ok, so mislynch accomplished. Back to scumreading rsoultin immediately:


So, I point this out and this is his reaction:

Then where was this read during eod? He literally went after 3 other people and said nothing about her.
If you want to know how town HF handles his scumreads eod look at void mafia. He scumread HTS and pushed her hard even though noone else really was up for it besides Kelsier. He didn't give a fuck about other targets - he pushed HIS scumread.
Now he claimes he scumread rsoulting all game and then he does nothing about getting her lynched? There is no way town HF does this.
He is INSISTING that he never dropped his rsoultin reads though:


And then the real gem comes:

Not only can you easily see the guilty conscience - he knows I am town and that I caught him and will push him - but SUDDENLY HIS READ WASN'T VERY CONCRETE?
Read the posts I quoted earlier again and decide for yourself if you want to believe this and keep in mind that he "scumread rsoultin all game" and "never dropped the read".

This guy is mafia. I will show more reasons but this rsoultin read evolution is damning enough on it's own and I don't want the post to get too big.

On February 07 2015 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:

Then we have this reasoning for scumreading me which makes no sense in the first place since I had more reasons to scumread SL than Onegu but even if we ignore this - why would I as scum make myself look bad by not following town marv and HF around (which I have done as scum before) if all lynch targets are town anyways and I could just switch as often as I want?

I already commented on this post. It is just another awful reason to push me.

Flat out lying when I clearly WAS on one of the wagons and was also pushing it. Saying I avoided wagons in heavyweight is also a straight lie.

Then his defense against me:

This is absolutely irrelevant. I was not the one pushing rsoulting as my top scumread.

Another lie. He said this when I had just poe'ed the mafia team a few posts before this. Still going on about how I read rsoultin which has nothing to do with my argument against him.

He knows I am town and won't let myself be mislynched without putting up a fight.

On February 08 2015 03:50 rsoultin wrote:


I was a policy lynch at best, jat. Stop kidding yourself.

On February 08 2015 05:18 batsnacks wrote:
What's the case on jat?

He has many votes and reasons are scarce.

On February 08 2015 05:36 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah we don't need to have this conversation twice. I'm just curious why HF looks better than jat. I don't understand it and I want to, and apparently other people do understand it because jat has more votes.

On February 08 2015 05:40 batsnacks wrote:


Vote HF?

I swear he's the better lynch I wouldn't lie as either alignment about this.

On February 09 2015 01:01 rsoultin wrote:
jat, same question you asked hf, if not hf, who?

On February 09 2015 01:26 batsnacks wrote:


We would have lynched breshke and koshi. What they did is flashier and just as good.

On February 09 2015 01:50 batsnacks wrote:


It does if breshke got lynched... which he does without the vig claim.

On February 09 2015 01:58 batsnacks wrote:


Either one is okay imo. Same outcome. breshke can't shoot and do factional kp in the same night can he?

On February 09 2015 07:16 batsnacks wrote:


Why is it HF?

On February 09 2015 07:30 batsnacks wrote:
I didn't remember marv claiming miller after eden. That changes my perspective on things...

I am going back to bolded:



##unvote
##vote HF

On February 09 2015 07:42 batsnacks wrote:
marv thoughts on HF+breshke team?

On February 09 2015 08:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Breshke shoot JAT and I going to be afk for the next hour or two.

On February 09 2015 08:08 batsnacks wrote:


You wouldn't kill a puppy, would you?

On February 10 2015 00:56 batsnacks wrote:
Miller cc or not... If your 100% reads are never wrong then how can we let you live?

On February 10 2015 00:58 batsnacks wrote:


What?

On February 10 2015 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay bats fakeclaimed cop and now claims medic. What the hell is going on other than JAT is Mafia?

On February 08 2015 02:08 batsnacks wrote:
It is really hard for me not to throw fuel on this eden-fire.

On February 10 2015 05:00 batsnacks wrote:


Because I'm the doc.

On February 10 2015 07:39 batsnacks wrote:


That's not what I said or what I meant. If breshke is the town vig then he is town. He is more sure of his own alignment and agenda than any of ours.

On February 10 2015 07:49 batsnacks wrote:


Your agenda is chaos. Your filter is absolutely horrendous.

On February 10 2015 08:05 batsnacks wrote:
Why the fuck did I check breshke? Am I stupid?