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lol, HTS
It's like she's trying to catch me changing votes xP I'm satisfied that jat is the more likely scum, HF, and I guess maybe I'm just projecting how I play onto others. I'm actually much better at finding town than scum, though.
Yeah, I don't know why bats is being townread? Though I will say that I liked the way he interacted with me lol compared to our first game together. It seemed a lot more like he was considering things from others' point of views. If jat's scum, though, I'm going to have a hard time not associating the two, and I do think jat's scum.
LS doesn't seem to be playing the same. Especially today.
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yeah, mafia vig should have taken a shot N1
I dunnae, I'm leaning LS or bats right now? PoE though.
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On February 08 2015 16:25 Breshke wrote:
LIKE THIS IS THE PROBLEM
if they dont have a RB why arnt i dead
If they have a RB why wasn't i Rb'd
WHAT WERE THEY TRYING TO DO. No way they were so sure i wasn't going to shoot.
dude, that's the question of the year right there ><
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On February 08 2015 16:31 Eden1892 wrote:Ls is the 2nd mafia. This is why Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 09:09 LightningStrike wrote:On February 04 2015 09:06 Eden1892 wrote:On February 04 2015 09:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Just came back from playing a LoL game and saw mass miller claims -.- Also Palmar claiming that Damdred is scum but wont give a good reason................ So guys what you think of Palmar and Marvs interactions with each other so far? Computer says mafia The last two times I played with you, you were sarcastic and trolling as scum I guess I can see the pattern in your play. ##Vote: Eden1892 One thing I've noticed is that I'm pretty solid at picking up mafia through suspicious early posts. I always end up not following up on it because it seems hella silly to kill people because "this post is stiff and awkward," but I also end up doing a pretty solid job at either identifying mafia off of it or developing my suspicion of these posts and discovering it's incorrectly placed. A great example of this is where I called out WaveofShadow's entry post in World Heavyweight as mafia and was totally right about it. I think I did it again with Onegu in Hammertime but I'm not sure if I explicitly framed it as such. Anyway, look at this sequence right here. LS's entry into the thread was really off-the-wall. He acknowledges the main event that had happened so far, commented on Palmar apparently suspecting Damdred without giving a reason... but instead decided not to ask about that and asked a question to no one in particular about nothing in particular. I called him mafia and he immediately OMGUSed me saying I was just trolling when I was obviously town at the time.
Eden, you know how certain people are cut some slack because of meta? LS not exactly following the thread or being able to explain his reads in a way that others can follow aren't alignment-indicative, and it's more than just meta.
My problem is I'm not seeing the rambles today where he goes on about a read, makes some comments about what happened since last he came into the thread, all in big run-on sentences. He just said something weird about an 8-ball and who was mafia based on potential NKs lol.
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On February 08 2015 16:40 Eden1892 wrote:
Urgh fuck it, I got to the part of Ls's filter where d1 EOD happened and it seemed legit
This game is harder than it has any right to be :/
I guess I'll be that guy, is there any chance it's marv?
Watch out, he'll lynch you for that xP
No, in all seriousness, it's possible but the chance is like infinitesimal. I'd sooner think bresh is pulling a vivax than I would marv cc'd you to fake-claim miller, and he's been pretty active in the thread, too.
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meh, reading the two of you going at it makes me less certain that jat is scum over hf
jat, same question you asked hf, if not hf, who?
hf, how do you go from saying you think the scumteam is ls/marv to you would be shooting bresh/eden/marv as mafia? don't get that at all. it's like he's probably scum but then so townie you'd shoot him?
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On February 09 2015 01:06 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 01:01 rsoultin wrote:
meh, reading the two of you going at it makes me less certain that jat is scum over hf
jat, same question you asked hf, if not hf, who?
hf, how do you go from saying you think the scumteam is ls/marv to you would be shooting bresh/eden/marv as mafia? don't get that at all. it's like he's probably scum but then so townie you'd shoot him? What? He asked me a mafia team that didn't include him and i said purely on d2 play only which ignores the entire game?
maybe I shouldn't find it weird, since you think jat is mafia, but it made me go "huh?" when I read it
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thoughts on Eden's case on marv, anyone?
most of it was narrative, so that's kinda...eh. anyone can write a story. but I noticed and commented on how wishy-washy marv was leading up to EoD earlier, too, right up until the very end with Damdred
also have to kind of agree that giving the reins to GB-channeling eden cause his reads lined up with marv's when they change at a drop of a hat is at best silly
don't really think those points alone make him mafia, though
his sudden flurry of activity in response to Eden's case just seemed like a real scramble, though, and some of what he says doesn't line up with my impression of what went on at all
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On February 09 2015 01:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Although I can see Marv shoot Palmar for the fact that they know each others meta so well and he didn't want to deal with Palmar as town vs him again but I think it just pure WIFOM to think about why Palmar was shot.
this from the guy with the magic 8 ball theory xP
weren't you the one saying you couldn't decide who was scum until you saw the N2 NKs?
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On February 09 2015 01:20 batsnacks wrote:
I've solved the game.
marv and breshke are the remaining mafia. Breshke is a mafia vig, he shot koshi. They did this because breshke and koshi were already highly suspected and likely to get lynched. Also the number of VTs that died makes this more do-able. Marv shot palmar because palmar would have figured out his alignment the longer the game went on.
I originally thought it was HF + breshke because it seems like a play HF would do but I think this is right.
talk to me more about this, bats
the only people you seem sure of this game are eden and jat as town, and the only read of those two that I think is justified is eden
I can actually kind of see the bolded statement, if only because the lack of RB and kill is so wtf, and the only other explanation people seem to have come up with is a 13p game having two vigs and a doc, which seems pretty nuts to me
yet it seems pretty much your entire analysis is based on nks?
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On February 09 2015 01:31 batsnacks wrote:
I'm the cop, I check jat last night.
He's town.
This is consistent with my actions today.
They are not going to let me live after I just solved the game anyway.
okay now you completely ignoring jat as possible scum makes a ton more sense >< lol
and if we've got a cop and a doc and a vig and a miller this game i'm a monkey's uncle
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okay, so hold on, hold on
if bresh is actually the mafia vig, which honestly I kept discarding as a possibility because of the koshi shot despite the night actions not really making sense, shouldn't we lynch him first?
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On February 09 2015 01:41 Holyflare wrote:
Ah what if framer + gf?? + miller = balance with vig and cop?
or that -_- HF you're making this harder, not easier lol
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On February 09 2015 01:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 01:41 Holyflare wrote:
Ah what if framer + gf?? + miller = balance with vig and cop? or that -_- HF you're making this harder, not easier lol
EBWOP:
actually, I still don't get keeping bresh alive with that scenario? can you walk me through it?
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On February 09 2015 01:47 Eden1892 wrote:
Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute.
10 people left. 2 shot scum vig 2 other mafia.
Scum shoots 2 town. 4-3
Town lynches scum. 4-2
Scum shoots 2 town. 2-2 scum wins.
This doesn't make sense anymore
ummm I think you're forgetting koshi in your numbers, eden? unless you think there are four mafia this game @.@ which would make hts kind of evil lol
actually I don't know where you're getting the number 10 at all?
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On February 09 2015 01:51 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 01:50 rsoultin wrote:On February 09 2015 01:47 Eden1892 wrote:
Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute.
10 people left. 2 shot scum vig 2 other mafia.
Scum shoots 2 town. 4-3
Town lynches scum. 4-2
Scum shoots 2 town. 2-2 scum wins.
This doesn't make sense anymore ummm I think you're forgetting koshi in your numbers, eden? unless you think there are four mafia this game @.@ which would make hts kind of evil lol actually I don't know where you're getting the number 10 at all? 2 shot scum vig + 2 other mafia. sorry for lack of clarity and 10 people after the modkills
oh, you're right
10 is 7 and 3?
2 shot town is 5 and 3
town lynches koshi or bresh
5-2
if it's bresh that brings it to 4-2
then kosh
nah man, your math is off I think
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On February 09 2015 01:53 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 01:51 Eden1892 wrote:On February 09 2015 01:50 batsnacks wrote:On February 09 2015 01:47 Eden1892 wrote:
Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute.
10 people left. 2 shot scum vig 2 other mafia.
Scum shoots 2 town. 4-3
Town lynches scum. 4-2
Scum shoots 2 town. 2-2 scum wins.
This doesn't make sense anymore It does if breshke got lynched... which he does without the vig claim. Nah. For one I'm not sure Breshke was getting lynched over Koshi d2. For another even if he were, you shoot to put town in LYLO in that situation all the time As an addendum I think if Breshke is mafia vig, there is no way he becomes the lynch d2. Koshi would absolutely be sac'd if needed to keep that 2nd shot. The resistance to killing Koshi + decision not to put town in LYLO if Breshke is getting lynched just doesn't add up
Well, you're right here, it's true. No way mafia doesn't hard-buss koshi to protect their mafia vig. But at the same time, the safer play is not to rely on the town to get koshi lynched, I'd think?
I don't know. I think we're just going to have to approach bresh like any other player and forget the claim, cause I can see it either way.
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On February 09 2015 01:57 Eden1892 wrote:
yo can we lynch marv instead lol
lol i'm sensing a desire to claim bragging rights here, senpai xP
bats, input?
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On February 09 2015 01:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe it is just me but I still think my HF/rsoultin theory sounds pretty good.
Will go eat dinner now and see who we lynch after that.
<3 you too -_-
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On February 09 2015 02:00 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 01:57 rsoultin wrote:On February 09 2015 01:53 Eden1892 wrote:On February 09 2015 01:51 Eden1892 wrote:On February 09 2015 01:50 batsnacks wrote:On February 09 2015 01:47 Eden1892 wrote:
Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute.
10 people left. 2 shot scum vig 2 other mafia.
Scum shoots 2 town. 4-3
Town lynches scum. 4-2
Scum shoots 2 town. 2-2 scum wins.
This doesn't make sense anymore It does if breshke got lynched... which he does without the vig claim. Nah. For one I'm not sure Breshke was getting lynched over Koshi d2. For another even if he were, you shoot to put town in LYLO in that situation all the time As an addendum I think if Breshke is mafia vig, there is no way he becomes the lynch d2. Koshi would absolutely be sac'd if needed to keep that 2nd shot. The resistance to killing Koshi + decision not to put town in LYLO if Breshke is getting lynched just doesn't add up Well, you're right here, it's true. No way mafia doesn't hard-buss koshi to protect their mafia vig. But at the same time, the safer play is not to rely on the town to get koshi lynched, I'd think? I don't know. I think we're just going to have to approach bresh like any other player and forget the claim, cause I can see it either way. I don't see how we can forget it though. There has to be a pretty compelling reason for him to shoot his partner. I really don't think that happened Imma be honest I'm on board the bats hypetrain. Dude has played to his town meta 100% and then claims cop with a scan that makes perfect sense with his reads so far. What if the mafia forgot to send in an RB target?
gah I really don't know -_-
forgetting to send in an RB target with a claimed vig though, eden...that's a stretch when there was an NK
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