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Holy shit I fucked that formating up. Just a second.
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On February 08 2015 04:03 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 03:59 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 03:47 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2015 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2015 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
pretty sure a town jat would have switched to onegu when I was pushing for it Then we have this reasoning for scumreading me which makes no sense in the first place since I had more reasons to scumread SL than Onegu but even if we ignore this - why would I as scum make myself look bad by not following town marv and HF around (which I have done as scum before) if all lynch targets are town anyways and I could just switch as often as I want?On February 06 2015 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
yeh mafia is undeniably palmar or jat because they are just the type of people to qq in their scum qt/pms about modkilling I already commented on this post. It is just another awful reason to push me. On February 06 2015 13:43 Holyflare wrote:
I'm still 100% lynching jat though he's done a void all over again where he avoids all the wagons and reasoning while still agreeing with it. He did the exact same thing in heavyweight too. Flat out lying when I clearly WAS on one of the wagons and was also pushing it. Saying I avoided wagons in heavyweight is also a straight lie.Then his defense against me: On February 07 2015 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
It's absolutely not irrelevant because do you see him talking about rsoul at deadline? Absolutely not so if he is town then why does his read make sense to him when he did the same thing? This is absolutely irrelevant. I was not the one pushing rsoulting as my top scumread. On February 07 2015 01:32 Holyflare wrote:On February 07 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
his rsoul read came subsequently, pretty obviously, and yours didn't
so. Rsoul has been in his poe list and someone he could have lynched the entire game and he barely ever commented on her Like it doesn't matter anyway because his read is totally irrelevant if you read the deadline and if it's his only proper read this game when it should be pretty damn easy to poe the majority of mafia then he doesn't have much hope Another lie. He said this when I had just poe'ed the mafia team a few posts before this. Still going on about how I read rsoultin which has nothing to do with my argument against him. On February 07 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
which is a pain because my effort level is low and i know jat is just going to whine and make it difficult to lynch him He knows I am town and won't let myself be mislynched without putting up a fight. The first point here is the one that makes my skin crawl. Jat demonstrably didn't have a strong preference for either SL or Onegu at EoD, but he did clearly think Damdred wasn't scum while trying to argue marv and palmar off Damdred's wagon. Who in this thread thinks that's gonna happen? lol Yet when it comes down to it he doesn't switch to Onegu to protect his townread. This is exactly how I caught Celestial several games ago. The second point is fine, but not strong. People have bad reasons to scumread people (see Eden's read on my emoticons) all the time. The third is just wrong because SL was not going to be the lynch Day 1. Tie that back into 1. Four I'd have to check, cause I don't remember jat's poe precisely, though I do remember a lot of people saying that poe simply reflected thread sentiment and was yawn-worthy. Five is a useless point anyway. It just assumes that HF is scum. And if you look at every single one of these points they're not actually about HF being scum, but rather jat defending himself from HF's points, and yet people are calling this a case on HF? You guys are seeing lots of text and calling it good. I just see jat trying to point the finger back at HF because he knows the lynch is going to be between him and HF today, and town loves to fall for these longass cases without really reading them. How can you say SL was not going to be the lynch when he in fact almost was the lynch? And if I think Palmar and marv are wrong am I supposed to just accept that they mislynch my townread? What a load of crap. The poe people were talking about was day1. I made a different one night1. btw. Why should I care which poe you want me to read? The poe we're talking about is the one from Day 1 that you're citing in your case xP No, you're not supposed to accept a mislynch. You're supposed to try to prevent it not just with your words, but also with your actions. In fact, actions always mean more than words. And you were in the thread, so it's not like you didn't know that Onegu and Damdred were the wagons. Stop blowing smoke.
But they weren't. This is factually incorrect. Until like 5 minutes before deadline SL was the leading wagon. and then many people shouted but very few people voted. It also didn't help that the mods fucked up hardcore with their votecounts before deadline in a way that noone even knew who was leading the vote/being lynched.
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On February 08 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 04:03 justanothertownie wrote:On February 05 2015 09:16 Holyflare wrote:
rs is pretty much gaining mafia points every second tbh This was way before the lynch. Rsoultin was not being active later. Still he didn't scumread her enough to consider lynching her anymore. which page was that, jat, cause I just tried to find it?
I am not doing your work for you. Look into my filter and you will find it.
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On February 08 2015 04:14 rsoultin wrote:
I was very blatant that I was going to vote with Eden, jat. How do you mess that one up?
wat
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On February 08 2015 04:21 rsoultin wrote:
Lol, I said multiple times that I was going to vote with Eden because I didn't have the time to read the thread. I was on the SL wagon.
So what?
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On February 08 2015 04:32 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 04:14 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 04:03 justanothertownie wrote:On February 05 2015 09:16 Holyflare wrote:
rs is pretty much gaining mafia points every second tbh This was way before the lynch. Rsoultin was not being active later. Still he didn't scumread her enough to consider lynching her anymore. which page was that, jat, cause I just tried to find it? I am not doing your work for you. Look into my filter and you will find it. Dude, no wonder I couldn't find it. This quote is from nearly 24 hours before EoD. I'd actually come back into the thread since then, and his comment about preferring an rs lynch was in response to someone trying to get him to vote Bresh. Did you bother with context at all?
That doesn't change the fact that he should have scumread you for being inactive eod like he conveniently said he would AFTER the lynch.
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On February 08 2015 04:35 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 07:41 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2015 07:40 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2015 07:39 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2015 07:37 Onegu wrote:On February 06 2015 07:36 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2015 07:34 Eden1892 wrote:On February 06 2015 07:33 Koshi wrote:
Where is this case from Onegu? I dunno but he has 10 minutes before I autofail him and lynch him instead of you Did you ever answer my question? Why Onegu? What question? I'm trying to figure out what Eden's doing since I don't have the time to read and decide for myself >< Why? To sheep him? Yes. It was you. Gotcha mofo xP You flatout asked me if I was sheeping Eden, lol. There is no possible way you didn't know that I was switching wagons.
I fail to see what this has to do with anything.
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On February 08 2015 04:38 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 04:33 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 04:32 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 04:14 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 04:03 justanothertownie wrote:On February 05 2015 09:16 Holyflare wrote:
rs is pretty much gaining mafia points every second tbh This was way before the lynch. Rsoultin was not being active later. Still he didn't scumread her enough to consider lynching her anymore. which page was that, jat, cause I just tried to find it? I am not doing your work for you. Look into my filter and you will find it. Dude, no wonder I couldn't find it. This quote is from nearly 24 hours before EoD. I'd actually come back into the thread since then, and his comment about preferring an rs lynch was in response to someone trying to get him to vote Bresh. Did you bother with context at all? That doesn't change the fact that he should have scumread you for being inactive eod like he conveniently said he would AFTER the lynch. Shoulda woulda coulda. Read his pages of filter on Onegu and tell me why he should have been scumreading me over Onegu. You may not think he believed Onegu was scum despite all the posts on him, but the fact that HF wasn't voting me can hardly be called alignment-indicative.
Yes it fucking can if he tries to push 3 (!) people over his surefire scumread (you) at eod and then after the mislynch goes back to scumreading you. Yes, that is alignment indicative.
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On February 08 2015 04:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 04:37 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 04:35 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2015 07:41 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2015 07:40 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2015 07:39 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2015 07:37 Onegu wrote:On February 06 2015 07:36 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2015 07:34 Eden1892 wrote:On February 06 2015 07:33 Koshi wrote:
Where is this case from Onegu? I dunno but he has 10 minutes before I autofail him and lynch him instead of you Did you ever answer my question? Why Onegu? What question? I'm trying to figure out what Eden's doing since I don't have the time to read and decide for myself >< Why? To sheep him? Yes. It was you. Gotcha mofo xP You flatout asked me if I was sheeping Eden, lol. There is no possible way you didn't know that I was switching wagons. I fail to see what this has to do with anything. You knew that SL wasn't going to be the lynch, because you knew I was going with Eden, who was deciding between koshi and onegu. Yet you stayed on him anyway and just yolod it, letting your townread possibly get lynched.
The fact that you keep repeating this incorrect statement does not make it true magically.
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On February 08 2015 04:41 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 04:40 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 04:38 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 04:33 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 04:32 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 04:14 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 04:03 justanothertownie wrote:On February 05 2015 09:16 Holyflare wrote:
rs is pretty much gaining mafia points every second tbh This was way before the lynch. Rsoultin was not being active later. Still he didn't scumread her enough to consider lynching her anymore. which page was that, jat, cause I just tried to find it? I am not doing your work for you. Look into my filter and you will find it. Dude, no wonder I couldn't find it. This quote is from nearly 24 hours before EoD. I'd actually come back into the thread since then, and his comment about preferring an rs lynch was in response to someone trying to get him to vote Bresh. Did you bother with context at all? That doesn't change the fact that he should have scumread you for being inactive eod like he conveniently said he would AFTER the lynch. Shoulda woulda coulda. Read his pages of filter on Onegu and tell me why he should have been scumreading me over Onegu. You may not think he believed Onegu was scum despite all the posts on him, but the fact that HF wasn't voting me can hardly be called alignment-indicative. Yes it fucking can if he tries to push 3 (!) people over his surefire scumread (you) at eod and then after the mislynch goes back to scumreading you. Yes, that is alignment indicative. Surefire is a huge stretch, jat, and you know it.
No. Read the quotes. He said he scumread you all game and never dropped it. I am literally done discussing this with you. I don't need to convince you that you 2 are mafia.
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On February 08 2015 04:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 04:41 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 04:39 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 04:37 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 04:35 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2015 07:41 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2015 07:40 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2015 07:39 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2015 07:37 Onegu wrote:On February 06 2015 07:36 rsoultin wrote:
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Did you ever answer my question? Why Onegu? What question? I'm trying to figure out what Eden's doing since I don't have the time to read and decide for myself >< Why? To sheep him? Yes. It was you. Gotcha mofo xP You flatout asked me if I was sheeping Eden, lol. There is no possible way you didn't know that I was switching wagons. I fail to see what this has to do with anything. You knew that SL wasn't going to be the lynch, because you knew I was going with Eden, who was deciding between koshi and onegu. Yet you stayed on him anyway and just yolod it, letting your townread possibly get lynched. The fact that you keep repeating this incorrect statement does not make it true magically. It's okay, jat. I know you can't admit it 
This is the votecount a few minutes before deadline and batsnacks already said he would vote SL too. No stfu.
On February 06 2015 07:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Vote Count - active votes now bolded for ease of viewingsicklucker (4): batsnacks, marvellosity, Damdred, rsoultin, Eden1892, Palmar, justanothertownie, LightningStrike, KoshiKoshi (3): Onegu, Onegu, Eden1892, marvellosity, BreshkeOnegu (3): marvellosity, Holyflare, Koshi, LightningStrike, sicklucker, LightningStrikeDamdred (2): marvellosity, Eden1892, Palmar, rsoultin, Holyflare, sicklucker, marvellosity, LightningStrike, Koshi, marvellosity, PalmarBreshke (1): batsnacks, Onegu, KoshiEden1892, marvellosityjustanothertownie (0): Eden1892, Eden1892, sicklucker, Breshke, Palmar, Holyflare (0): Eden1892LightningStrike (0): Damdred, Eden1892, BreshkeEden1892 (0): LightningStrikersoultin (0): Eden1892, Eden1892marvellosity (0): Eden1892Not voted (0): At the current vote count, sicklucker be walkin' the plank.The voting thread is located here.
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On February 08 2015 05:20 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 05:18 batsnacks wrote:
What's the case on jat?
He has many votes and reasons are scarce. For me it's mostly just how he was behaving at EoD and being pretty forgettable the rest of the game. Sure, he fought back against people scumreading him, but I don't remember him helping trying to solve the game or anything. (And yes, mostly I'm just going off what I've seen many others say in the thread about Jat's town game being infinitely better than this.) Pretty sure I've got him dead to rights on that SL vote though ^^
I literally solved the game today.
On February 08 2015 05:22 rsoultin wrote:
He and koshi were also the loudest players trying to keep Breshke from taking a shot. I find that reason less compelling, though.
Because shooting was the objectively incorrect play. Had he shot me instead of Koshi then we would be in triple LYLO already for example. And town almost never wins in triple LYLO.
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On February 08 2015 05:30 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 05:25 batsnacks wrote:On February 08 2015 05:20 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 05:18 batsnacks wrote:
What's the case on jat?
He has many votes and reasons are scarce. For me it's mostly just how he was behaving at EoD and being pretty forgettable the rest of the game. Sure, he fought back against people scumreading him, but I don't remember him helping trying to solve the game or anything. (And yes, mostly I'm just going off what I've seen many others say in the thread about Jat's town game being infinitely better than this.) Pretty sure I've got him dead to rights on that SL vote though ^^ You've been talking about jat's case for hours so saying you don't remember him trying to solve the game isn't really fair. Like if jat is town that case is a massive effort at trying to solve the game. Also jat rarely makes cases in any game... he's more of a conversational player so again, the case is a big deal. Can you explain the SL vote thing and why it makes him scummy? I voted SL and I didn't give any reasons for it. Do you have me dead to rights too? Bats, I could explain it again, but frankly I've done it about 3 times. If you didn't agree with it then, you won't now. The point was not who he voted, but his reads at EoD which made staying on SL highly suspect. The case is clearly defensive. He has one point in the first section that's frankly weak, and the second section is all ways of saying how he isn't scum therefore HF must be rather than proving anything about HF. If he's town, then yeah, I'd agree he's trying to solve the game, but have to say he should stick to conversation cause the case just isn't good. (That's really not a dig at you either, jat, if you really are town, cause my cases get laughed at when I try to make them, too, even when I am right on my read.)
There is no way you arrive at the bolded conclusion if you read my case. Absolutely no way.
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On February 08 2015 05:36 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah we don't need to have this conversation twice. I'm just curious why HF looks better than jat. I don't understand it and I want to, and apparently other people do understand it because jat has more votes.
My guess is that LS and breshke are just afk and that's why their votes are still on me. Eden already said he would lynch HF and not me.
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On February 08 2015 06:08 Breshke wrote:
So isnt this game really easy.
RSo, JAT, bats and hf
If yoy could all give a read on LS that would be great.
I already did. Thought he was town earlier and since rsoultin and HF are mafia he is also town by POE. His absence is annoying though.
On February 08 2015 06:23 Eden1892 wrote:
LS is not town
Rsoultin soul read is too true.
But JAT case on Hf so pure.
Hf LS team.
Hijole haiku
I really don't get this soul read.
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On February 08 2015 07:38 Eden1892 wrote:
Oops I lied no break 4 me lol
Yo if Hf and rso are mafia why is rso having to do the heavy lifting? I feel like there's no way Hf isn't in here to help her. Granted he could just be afk but it's worth considering
What do you mean? HF is obviously afk. He would defend himself as either alignment.
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I am so cool I get 2 votes.
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On February 08 2015 08:13 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 08:11 justanothertownie wrote:
I am so cool I get 2 votes. Why are you wasting your 2nd vote?
To build up tension.
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On February 08 2015 22:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Since you weren't roleblocked and killed I think there is a doctor on the loose and there is no roleblocker for mafia because they got a Vig themselves. I think 1 of the KP was sent towards you but you were saved. Unless we get notified if we were saved because its vague I going to ask this question:
Will we be notified if we were saved by a doctor?
There is no way there are 2 2shotvigs in a 13 player game. No fucking way.
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