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On February 07 2015 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 08:51 Holyflare wrote: pretty sure a town jat would have switched to onegu when I was pushing for it Then we have this reasoning for scumreading me which makes no sense in the first place since I had more reasons to scumread SL than Onegu but even if we ignore this - why would I as scum make myself look bad by not following town marv and HF around (which I have done as scum before) if all lynch targets are town anyways and I could just switch as often as I want?
I asked you why you had so many more reasons to pursue the SL lynch, and you tell me to look at Damdred's case? When well after he posted his case you clearly weren't sure on whether the lynch should be SL or Onegu?
This really isn't that hard to follow, jat -_-
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On February 08 2015 00:50 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 00:33 justanothertownie wrote:This is literally the next post in my filter. No way you don't see this when you post those quotes. On February 06 2015 07:57 justanothertownie wrote: SL is here but doesn't care in the slightest about who gets lynched as long as it isn't him. You can also have a look at damdreds case on him. Sure, I saw that, but I also see Marv (I believe) making the exact same argument for Damdred about pushing SL then not caring where the lynch goes. You don't even mention Onegu again. That says why you voted SL, but not why you had such better reasons to.
And that case Damdred made on him was made the night before. I should know; it's why I went through SL's town games and chose to push SL myself. What is the bolded even supposed to say? Ridiculous. So what if marv made that argument about damdred? I didn't think damdred was scum and I also said that multiple times. And wtf does it matter when damdred made his case?
So here's what I just don't get. And maybe I'm just dumb or something, but where in all that rigamarole were you so much more certain that SL was scum than Onegu, when it's clear you thought Damdred was town and voting Onegu would keep Damdred from being lynched?
If I have a townread up for lynch I'm going to try to make sure he doesn't die, especially when I have no reason to townread the other two wagons. In fact, that is almost always my play on Day 1 because I rarely have a strong scumread, and even when I do people usually don't listen to me.
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On February 08 2015 01:04 marvellosity wrote: I kinda agree with jat, i don't think a jat/bats team makes that much sense to me. dunno, we got over a day, so a lot of time to muse on it
What about it doesn't make sense?
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On February 08 2015 01:07 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 01:05 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 00:50 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 00:33 justanothertownie wrote:This is literally the next post in my filter. No way you don't see this when you post those quotes. On February 06 2015 07:57 justanothertownie wrote: SL is here but doesn't care in the slightest about who gets lynched as long as it isn't him. You can also have a look at damdreds case on him. Sure, I saw that, but I also see Marv (I believe) making the exact same argument for Damdred about pushing SL then not caring where the lynch goes. You don't even mention Onegu again. That says why you voted SL, but not why you had such better reasons to.
And that case Damdred made on him was made the night before. I should know; it's why I went through SL's town games and chose to push SL myself. What is the bolded even supposed to say? Ridiculous. So what if marv made that argument about damdred? I didn't think damdred was scum and I also said that multiple times. And wtf does it matter when damdred made his case? So here's what I just don't get. And maybe I'm just dumb or something, but where in all that rigamarole were you so much more certain that SL was scum than Onegu, when it's clear you thought Damdred was town and voting Onegu would keep Damdred from being lynched? If I have a townread up for lynch I'm going to try to make sure he doesn't die, especially when I have no reason to townread the other two wagons. In fact, that is almost always my play on Day 1 because I rarely have a strong scumread, and even when I do people usually don't listen to me. I told my townreads on the damdred wagon that I don't think he is a good lynch. I pushed his counterwagon SL and voted him. What is your fucking point?
I think you see my point just fine given your answer.
What in marv/palmar/hf's posting ever gave you the impression that you telling them the lynch was "bad" was enough to get them off Damdred?
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On February 08 2015 01:07 marvellosity wrote: jat's not the sort of player to repeatedly hard-clear his team-mate
alright, so you think it's me and hf instead or something?
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wow you both are acting dumb today. let me spell it out for you:
jat is sitting here waffling between sl and onegu
he keeps saying damdred is a bad lynch, damdred is town
marv and palmar at the very least are so tunneled there's no way they're gonna move
so instead of hammering onegu who has 4 votes with damdred to keep damdred from being lynched, he parks his vote on sl where it's not going to do any good?
so even in a world jat where you think sl is more likely scum than onegu, what makes you so sure of that from one minute to the next that you're not going to vote to save your townread?
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On February 08 2015 01:16 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 01:15 rsoultin wrote: wow you both are acting dumb today. let me spell it out for you:
jat is sitting here waffling between sl and onegu
he keeps saying damdred is a bad lynch, damdred is town
marv and palmar at the very least are so tunneled there's no way they're gonna move
so instead of hammering onegu who has 4 votes with damdred to keep damdred from being lynched, he parks his vote on sl where it's not going to do any good?
so even in a world jat where you think sl is more likely scum than onegu, what makes you so sure of that from one minute to the next that you're not going to vote to save your townread? I am acting dumb? So I am town, yes? And why do you keep saying my vote on SL is doing nothing when there were as many votes as they were on Onegu or even more for the longest time?
mafia can act dumb too
your vote on sl didn't accomplish anything at EoD, yes or no?
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On February 08 2015 01:17 marvellosity wrote: rsoultin if you're town, it could actually be jat/hf.
they're just the type of players who would bus each other and try to make the thread think it's an either/or situation
so I've never played with a town HF, and I don't think I've ever played with jat at all. do you have games off the top of your head that can back this up? if not I'll just go looking myself. we have plenty of time.
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On February 08 2015 01:19 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 01:18 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 01:16 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 01:15 rsoultin wrote: wow you both are acting dumb today. let me spell it out for you:
jat is sitting here waffling between sl and onegu
he keeps saying damdred is a bad lynch, damdred is town
marv and palmar at the very least are so tunneled there's no way they're gonna move
so instead of hammering onegu who has 4 votes with damdred to keep damdred from being lynched, he parks his vote on sl where it's not going to do any good?
so even in a world jat where you think sl is more likely scum than onegu, what makes you so sure of that from one minute to the next that you're not going to vote to save your townread? I am acting dumb? So I am town, yes? And why do you keep saying my vote on SL is doing nothing when there were as many votes as they were on Onegu or even more for the longest time? mafia can act dumb too your vote on sl didn't accomplish anything at EoD, yes or no? No. Because there were more votes on SL than on damdred at any time. Your whole line of reasoning is invalid.
Weren't you the one who asked me if I was going to sheep Eden or not in-thread? Meh, I've got to take a look at the vote progression again I guess. I thought it was pretty obvious SL wasn't the lynch at the time, but it was really chaotic at EoD.
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Regardless, "disrespecting" you is a bad reason to lynch someone, Eden.
Is LS still around? He said he thought the case on HF was good, asked me about it, then poofed.
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okay, well, I've got games on HF and jat I want to go through, so I'll leave y'all to yell at each other I guess
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On February 08 2015 02:02 Eden1892 wrote: HF please satisfactorily rebut JAT's case so I don't have to lynch you over him against literally every emotional fiber of my being right now
Hey, Eden, did you see marv's post on a jat/bats scumteam being unlikely?
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On February 08 2015 02:05 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote: I'm waffling on bats. He seems to have been super reluctant (except for saying jat is a justified lynch near EoD) to vote/push/pressure jat all game. I also see jat defending bats a lot. Which makes me think that if jat is scum, bats may either be his partner, or just pocketed town. Some of bats' later posting makes me think the latter, because all of his "this is also a good lynch" stuff from EoD checks out. His read on you, bresh, not so much though I think that may just be me on he not seeing you as terribly scummy Day 1.
Bats, can you tell me why breshke being "passive" caused you to switch to him from SL? I know that you mentioned that SL responded well to your vote on him, but what was the tipping point? I switched to SL because I was the only one voting breshke. Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 07:57 batsnacks wrote: I am sorry I couldn't get breshke lynched.
That wasn't the question. The question was why you switched from SL to Breshke the night before?
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On February 08 2015 02:07 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 02:02 Eden1892 wrote: HF please satisfactorily rebut JAT's case so I don't have to lynch you over him against literally every emotional fiber of my being right now Hey, Eden, did you see marv's post on a jat/bats scumteam being unlikely? yeah, what of it
well, I mean, I intend to go through jat's games to verify that myself, but if it holds true, what then?
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On February 08 2015 02:08 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 02:07 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 02:05 batsnacks wrote:On February 07 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote: I'm waffling on bats. He seems to have been super reluctant (except for saying jat is a justified lynch near EoD) to vote/push/pressure jat all game. I also see jat defending bats a lot. Which makes me think that if jat is scum, bats may either be his partner, or just pocketed town. Some of bats' later posting makes me think the latter, because all of his "this is also a good lynch" stuff from EoD checks out. His read on you, bresh, not so much though I think that may just be me on he not seeing you as terribly scummy Day 1.
Bats, can you tell me why breshke being "passive" caused you to switch to him from SL? I know that you mentioned that SL responded well to your vote on him, but what was the tipping point? I switched to SL because I was the only one voting breshke. On February 06 2015 07:54 batsnacks wrote: I'm switching to SL in 5 minutes. On February 06 2015 07:57 batsnacks wrote: I am sorry I couldn't get breshke lynched. That wasn't the question. The question was why you switched from SL to Breshke the night before? That was d1 there was no night yet?
I mean the literal night -_- You're in the U.S. so our nights are the same. You have to know what I mean by you switching from SL to Breshke. I can find the quotes if you don't remember.
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On February 08 2015 02:13 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 02:10 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 02:08 batsnacks wrote:On February 08 2015 02:07 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 02:05 batsnacks wrote:On February 07 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote: I'm waffling on bats. He seems to have been super reluctant (except for saying jat is a justified lynch near EoD) to vote/push/pressure jat all game. I also see jat defending bats a lot. Which makes me think that if jat is scum, bats may either be his partner, or just pocketed town. Some of bats' later posting makes me think the latter, because all of his "this is also a good lynch" stuff from EoD checks out. His read on you, bresh, not so much though I think that may just be me on he not seeing you as terribly scummy Day 1.
Bats, can you tell me why breshke being "passive" caused you to switch to him from SL? I know that you mentioned that SL responded well to your vote on him, but what was the tipping point? I switched to SL because I was the only one voting breshke. On February 06 2015 07:54 batsnacks wrote: I'm switching to SL in 5 minutes. On February 06 2015 07:57 batsnacks wrote: I am sorry I couldn't get breshke lynched. That wasn't the question. The question was why you switched from SL to Breshke the night before? That was d1 there was no night yet? I mean the literal night -_- You're in the U.S. so our nights are the same. You have to know what I mean by you switching from SL to Breshke. I can find the quotes if you don't remember. Oh I know what you mean. It was because SL had some really decent responses to my half-case on him: + Show Spoiler +On February 04 2015 22:09 batsnacks wrote: SL is mafia this game here's why:
Post game in Void mafia he went on this cocky spiel about how he doesn't try any harder than he needs to as mafia because he doesn't want to reveal all his skills in one game. This game he starts out saying he won't be contributing and he isn't. Voting Damdred is also consistent with this theory because the people in this game SL considers "strong players" are all voting Damdred and sheeping them is an easy way to stay off their radar. Instead of trying to contribute far out original theories like town SL does he is deferring to people like marv, asking them if things are "weird," as if asking for approval.
That's your case and not his points, bats?
Okay, so why do you think HF is mafia over jat?
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On February 08 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote:well, I mean, I intend to go through jat's games to verify that myself, but if it holds true, what then?
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On February 08 2015 02:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 02:23 Eden1892 wrote:On February 08 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 02:07 Eden1892 wrote:On February 08 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 02:02 Eden1892 wrote: HF please satisfactorily rebut JAT's case so I don't have to lynch you over him against literally every emotional fiber of my being right now Hey, Eden, did you see marv's post on a jat/bats scumteam being unlikely? yeah, what of it well, I mean, I intend to go through jat's games to verify that myself, but if it holds true, what then? honestly I'm lynching HF rn my vote's still on JAT because I feel like it but short of a really compelling defense from HF, he gone like no bullshit JAT had a really solid case on HF funny that all rsoultin did is mock the case then, right?
you know, the number of times you say things that are untrue is getting annoying
if all I did was mock his case then why was I questioning him on one of his points?
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On February 08 2015 02:34 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 02:33 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 02:29 marvellosity wrote:On February 08 2015 02:23 Eden1892 wrote:On February 08 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 02:07 Eden1892 wrote:On February 08 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 02:02 Eden1892 wrote: HF please satisfactorily rebut JAT's case so I don't have to lynch you over him against literally every emotional fiber of my being right now Hey, Eden, did you see marv's post on a jat/bats scumteam being unlikely? yeah, what of it well, I mean, I intend to go through jat's games to verify that myself, but if it holds true, what then? honestly I'm lynching HF rn my vote's still on JAT because I feel like it but short of a really compelling defense from HF, he gone like no bullshit JAT had a really solid case on HF funny that all rsoultin did is mock the case then, right? you know, the number of times you say things that are untrue is getting annoying if all I did was mock his case then why was I questioning him on one of his points? Where did your questions get you rs? Do you think jat is mafia?
you still haven't answered my questions, bats
and yes, yes I do. his vote on sl at EoD was weird
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On February 08 2015 02:37 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 02:36 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 02:34 batsnacks wrote:On February 08 2015 02:33 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 02:29 marvellosity wrote:On February 08 2015 02:23 Eden1892 wrote:On February 08 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 02:07 Eden1892 wrote:On February 08 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 02:02 Eden1892 wrote: HF please satisfactorily rebut JAT's case so I don't have to lynch you over him against literally every emotional fiber of my being right now Hey, Eden, did you see marv's post on a jat/bats scumteam being unlikely? yeah, what of it well, I mean, I intend to go through jat's games to verify that myself, but if it holds true, what then? honestly I'm lynching HF rn my vote's still on JAT because I feel like it but short of a really compelling defense from HF, he gone like no bullshit JAT had a really solid case on HF funny that all rsoultin did is mock the case then, right? you know, the number of times you say things that are untrue is getting annoying if all I did was mock his case then why was I questioning him on one of his points? Where did your questions get you rs? Do you think jat is mafia? you still haven't answered my questions, bats and yes, yes I do. his vote on sl at EoD was weird I answered all of your questions.
Sorry, didn't see it.
What exactly is jat doing for this game? I'll grant that HF isn't doing much, either, particularly in the very beginning, but I don't see anything amazing from jat. His case came after you were so certain it was HF.
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