Linux Mini Mafia

On January 31 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya that is bad play by Robik hard claiming a named VT without any pressure at all. It going to allow Scum to PoE on who is the 2nd blue.

On January 31 2015 06:19 IAmRobik wrote:
No one cares Damdred

On January 31 2015 07:05 Holyflare wrote:
dat sl guy posting in void without saying hi here

On January 31 2015 07:08 Chezitwo wrote:

Do you think this post makes LS likely to be a linux user?

On January 31 2015 07:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
So I am thinking scum!damdred wouldn't talk about scum strategy in thread, what's the point as scum to talk about what scum knows and needs to confirm in thread? The over-explaination doesn't feel scummy to me idk

On January 31 2015 07:19 IAmRobik wrote:
SL, why haven't you TR'd me yet

On January 31 2015 07:32 LightningStrike wrote:

He called me town and told me not to claim VT Day 1 in that game.

On January 31 2015 07:31 Eden1892 wrote:

A++

On January 31 2015 09:38 Fecalfeast wrote:

Care to explain this post for the feeble minded?

On January 31 2015 08:46 Damdred wrote:
Lol ok robik, I put my post in a more readable form because I was phone posting but that's ok.

Also if you look at metal mafia where Sl was town and in two games and people brought up his weirdness he wasn't overly defensive like he is here and pointing at his old Scum game. He was super involved proving he was towny the opposite here

On January 31 2015 12:25 Holyflare wrote:


you literally just dodged everything i said to tell me that you normally ignore me which is everything i already knew... respond to the post???

On January 31 2015 11:16 Holyflare wrote:
I fail to see how a sl that policy lynches marv because he's "great at scum" day 1 decides to town read marv when marv has done...? not much imo

the rest of his list is like wtf other than the robik who literally claimed blue

his ls read is because he's not being wishy washy when he's usually wishy washy as town.....................? what

no idea where batsnacks read is from

On January 31 2015 12:28 sicklucker wrote:


Oh this post. You were not in the game but marvs scum strategy last game was the not post. So just him posting holds alot of value.

Last time I pressured marv he ragequit or something. I dont really want to do that again hes a good player

On January 31 2015 12:48 Damdred wrote:
Thankfully I'm home so I can ninja hf instead of other way around.

LS isn't trying to solve the game AND he's playing against how he plays town, usually he has three town reads at least by meta. Even his meta on you is super weak by ls standards so I'm not sure why you give him a free pass so early and so hard.

On January 31 2015 13:07 Damdred wrote:


For example in the latest student mafia game he busts out several meta reads very early a couple were paragraph length, and his meta towards you is a single sentence where you did this as town before? And he doesn't even bring a conclusion like he normally would and just forgets about it? And you let it fly?

On January 31 2015 12:35 Holyflare wrote:


right but the whole reason you "policy pressured" him is because he fooled you as scum by posting a lot and now he's in your almost always town list despite posting not much at all?????? like so what he didn't post as mafia last game it doesn't mean he's incapable of posting as mafia ever especially as your whole reason for the policy pressure to begin with was because he CAN fool you as mafia!??!?!?!

not to mention you didn't even comment on damdred being there at all, if it's because of his vote on you then it shouldn't be because he said that reasoning after me so it wasn't an original thought - or at least it might have been to him - and eden also has the same vote logic but only damdred is in this list


why?

On January 31 2015 13:50 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm just going to say this...we're 8h into D1, and it's stupid late for Marv atm...I wouldn't judge him either way quite yet.

And speaking of stupid late, it really is. It's almost 5am. I'm going to call it a night.
Will continue to crack this game when I wake up.

Good night lovelies <3

On January 31 2015 13:57 rsoultin wrote:


Forgive me (or ignore me) if you've already answered this and I just haven't gotten to it yet, but why is being able to figure out someone usually hard to figure out as town a towntell?

You basically just said "this is different from when he is town" ergo "he is town"

:/

On January 31 2015 13:36 sicklucker wrote:
Edens scum because hes calling me salty about the robik thing while calling me mafia. If im mafia im not salty I would acualy be quite happy about . Therefor I propose that eden is certainly scum.

What do you think of this eden? Now this is what id call strange

On January 31 2015 15:44 Eden1892 wrote:
I see no issue with my reasoning. If it's your shtick as town to criticize quick role claims, and you know it is, then you're going to do it as mafia even if you're actually happy about it, because you're going to try to emulate your perception of your town behavior. You're going to do it, and because you're doing it artificially instead of naturally, it might not be a perfect facsimile of your town behavior. You might be underselling it, like you don't really care... or you might be overselling it, and become unreasonably upset about it, and unreasonably defensive when people call you on it.

In other words, exactly what I was worried about with you. Your statement that this is what "your meta says," as I'm interpreting it, seems to reinforce this idea, because it indicates that you were deliberately trying to interpret your own meta on the subject, when as town you presumably wouldn't be bothered about it.

I think you need to answer my question now. Am I misinterpreting your statement I quoted, and if so, how? If I'm not, how else am I supposed to interpret your behavior other than "you oversold your town proclivity to hate on blue claims because you aren't actually town"?

Work with me here. I'm entertaining the idea of your innocence, but if you don't cooperate with me when I ask a basic and important question, you give me very little recourse to assuming your guilt.

On February 01 2015 03:31 Trfel wrote:

Ok, I have been in games where there are claims. I have seen claims occasionally used effectively. Sometimes, I know how to use claims. But in what I think are the majority of cases, I don't know how to use claims. I believe I've mentioned this in previous games, if necessary I can dig that up.

I DID ask, pretty sure at least twice, for someone to explain Robik's claim to me. And no one did. My extreme lack of mafia experience (never having played in real life) makes me completely unconvinced that Robik is town based on this claim, and that is not going to change until someone explains this to me in a way that I can understand (or links me a guide of satisfactory quality, or whatever). Or maybe I will end up accepting it because if everyone else thinks it, it's probably right, even if I don't know why. But I don't see how I should be expected to come to a certain conclusion about something despite asking about it multiple times and receiving no answer.

As for my previous post, I intended to convey that I am a little suspicious of Damdred and Robik and very suspicious of sicklucker. Yes, I put a few comments that didn't contain a read, but are you going to scumread Holyflare and Half the Sky for talking about London restaurants? I'm talking about stuff that I want to talk about because I think it's interesting, if you want to talk about it too, then it was a good thing I mentioned it. If you don't, no harm done.

I really have no clue what to make of the Palmar lynch. I don't know that much about Palmar, other than his play is marked with laziness and he plays in bursts of effectiveness.

Really, my stance on Palmar and sicklucker is similar right now. I am willing to lynch them and there is a good chance they are scum, but I don't feel there is much else to say about them. Therefore, I will look into other things for now, and decide on the best lynch closer to the deadline (which I think I will need to leave about 3 hours before.....). I just see no reason to push sicklucker or Palmar at this point, since there is nothing I could say about them that hasn't already been said.

On February 01 2015 04:35 rsoultin wrote:


^ That.

I've questioned him about reading LS town for hard townreading him but it's SL. If you've got a good way to read the spaz, please let me know.

If anything, I like FFs reasoning for voting him best. He's not spazzing the thread much this game.

On February 01 2015 09:56 Trfel wrote:

Sicklucker, please answer this question.

On February 01 2015 10:02 Trfel wrote:
Sicklucker, you aren't making sense.

You are aware that marvellosity is among the best scum players on this site? And that he is capable of not giving up right at the start of the game? See Imperial Mafia, Palmar was town and marvellosity was mafia in the same game, and marvellosity survived.

Even with that aside, marvellosity would know if Palmar's reason is genuine or not, he is smart. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't give up and quit over a falsified scumread.

And even ignoring that, it's obvious that Palmar hasn't been doing anything in this game. So why does it matter if he pressured marvellosity or not, when he is clearly not playing? The only thing that a Palmar lynch has going for it that a normal non-post policy lynch doesn't is that marvellosity seems confident that Palmar is mafia.

On February 01 2015 10:02 Trfel wrote:
Sicklucker, you aren't making sense.

You are aware that marvellosity is among the best scum players on this site? And that he is capable of not giving up right at the start of the game? See Imperial Mafia, Palmar was town and marvellosity was mafia in the same game, and marvellosity survived.

Even with that aside, marvellosity would know if Palmar's reason is genuine or not, he is smart. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't give up and quit over a falsified scumread.

And even ignoring that, it's obvious that Palmar hasn't been doing anything in this game. So why does it matter if he pressured marvellosity or not, when he is clearly not playing? The only thing that a Palmar lynch has going for it that a normal non-post policy lynch doesn't is that marvellosity seems confident that Palmar is mafia.

On February 01 2015 10:39 Palmar wrote:

What the hell are you on about. I cannot by definition agree with a read that says I'm mafia, even if I was mafia. Marv is wrong about my alignment, hell he isn't even sure I'm mafia.

Also, please explain why you defended yourself so hard against a joke vote. Please don't change the subject.

On February 01 2015 10:55 Trfel wrote:

Sicklucker, what are you trying to say here, in both of the quotes?

"Last time I pressured marv he ragequit or something"
"I pressured him he claimed town and we moved on"

You refer to different games, right? But the way you say this, you never changed the subject, so it seems like you ought to be talking about the same game. Please explain what you are trying to say.

On February 01 2015 11:11 rsoultin wrote:
You know, honestly, trfel, there are a lot of things that don't make a ton of sense in SL's filter, but I am getting the impression that he somehow believes them.

The meta thing he said was what Eden has been pressuring him on.

And, for whatever reason, he does seem to think that his actions have a huge impact. Like I don't really think that him saying he was town a lot actually caused the scum team to concede in our last game, but I can see him thinking that was the cause? Just like I can see him thinking that because he pressured marv once, and marv gave up and was town, that if he pressures him again he'd give up again.

His point that palmar should be pressuring marv to see if he's scum (not the rest about making things up) isn't a terrible one.

SL...is your read on Eden pretty much just entirely because he's scumreading you for being angry at robik?

On February 01 2015 11:14 rsoultin wrote:
You've pressured marv three times when he was town, he gave up all those times, and he was town all those times?

On February 01 2015 11:14 rsoultin wrote:
You've pressured marv three times when he was town, he gave up all those times, and he was town all those times?

On February 01 2015 11:18 Trfel wrote:

Wait, you definitely said that you didn't want to pressure marvellosity because last time you did that, he gave up, and he was town.

Did you mean to say scum there too? So you don't want to pressure him this game because last time it worked? I don't understand.

On February 01 2015 11:22 Trfel wrote:

Sorry, I didn't realize that I was talking about an ongoing game. I'm just trying to understand things that don't make sense to me.

If that really is true, than you probably shouldn't have brought it up in the first place.

On February 01 2015 11:25 rsoultin wrote:
What is ogi?

On February 01 2015 12:55 Damdred wrote:
I don't get why palmar is so hard to wrap your head around, I didn't say he's town like you are inferring I said I didn't want to lynch him stop being dense.

Idk why you are being purposefully dense about ls. SL gave a question mark a hard town for nothing ok.

On February 01 2015 13:03 Damdred wrote:
Like hf before and after that talked about me needing to admit he's right, did something similar to someone else and he's pretty forgettable and not pushing the thread he's scum.

I found two so far

On February 01 2015 13:30 Damdred wrote:
Omfg just lynch trfel this is hilarious.

I'll deal with hf later or something, but trfel is so scum

On February 01 2015 13:33 Trfel wrote:
What do people who aren't Damdred think of my alignment?

On February 01 2015 13:35 Half the Sky wrote:


Can you elaborate on Robik's scum meta? Does he tend to afk?
Just finished Hammertime, and he was scum. AFKed in that game largely. Not sure if that's a regular thing with him.

On February 01 2015 14:16 rsoultin wrote:


The paranoia point, and not being indecisive, those I can see. As I said, I expect irrationality from him so most of the rest more or less falls under that umbrella. His reads generally are pretty mutable, though, from my experience with him, so when they're not...

Eh, I'm too tired to do more of this tonight. Will post some thoughts in the morning. Good night, all.

On February 01 2015 15:02 rsoultin wrote:
Can we lynch Robik?

I'm usually against lynching claims, but just staring at that OP...

That blue role was the most likely one to be in one of the set-ups, completely useless as a blue role so it doesn't matter if he doesn't do anything and he can't be checked that way, and he has been completely useless.

Like, that's actually the safest role for scum to claim and there's not a reason for town to do so. Yet scum can make it harder for blues to claim by throwing doubt on them if there are "too many" because of Robik's early claim.

I really want to do this ><

Can anyone give me a good reason why it would be bad to lynch Robik?

On February 01 2015 15:09 Damdred wrote:
There can be three blues actually so yea it makes it harder

On February 01 2015 15:08 Damdred wrote:
Should wait to lynch robik for a little even if he's playing to scum meta.

Anyway I'm not really mad at anyone outside if game but a lot of people have toxic attitudes this game that really steal the fun, nothing like being called bad or people being disappointed in you when you legitimately don't see what they are saying. It really really steals all the fun out

On February 01 2015 16:05 Eden1892 wrote:
I'm gonna go look at the player list and see who I forgot is playing. That guy's probably mafia.

On February 01 2015 16:12 rsoultin wrote:
Why do you want to lynch Chez, SL?

In terms of policy lynches there are better ones, so I'm expecting something from his content or reads to support your scumread.

On February 01 2015 16:14 Damdred wrote:
SK did hf really skip over what I said answer RS then peace out?

yes I'll re evaluate on you in the morning sl
I'm sleeping now but hf is probable scum here

On February 01 2015 16:18 rsoultin wrote:


I thought it was you he scummed? xP

All I remember was him asking someone about LS' alignment.

I'm sorry, but I have a soft spot for players like my brother, Slam the Man, and chez. Give me something scummy. I actually really like the points he was making with his posts this game. Like I could quote the ones that I liked, if you want me to, cause there were at least a few.

On February 01 2015 16:27 Trfel wrote:
Am I the only person who doesn't want to lynch FecalFeast?

On February 01 2015 16:31 Trfel wrote:
I guess lynching Palmar isn't horrible.

I would lynch Robik instantly except Hammertime mafia shows that Robik simply has been offline for a while now.

I don't really want to lynch Chezitwo for the same reasons I don't really want to lynch FecalFeast. Both make mostly useless comments, but they are still reading the thread and seem to be putting a bit of effort in.

One more comment about FecalFeast, I don't scumread him for the post about sheeping Holyflare. All of FecalFeast's posts before and after this one are joking, and I see no reason to assume that this one is any different, especially when looking at his tone in the post.

On February 01 2015 16:33 Trfel wrote:

Well, last game I played with him, I was the cop so I checked him

On February 01 2015 18:04 Holyflare wrote:
Well since i like ff's list and he's not actually that bad his pushes on chez aren't actually bad either

On February 01 2015 18:05 rsoultin wrote:
I think the general consensus on Robik was either to never lynch him *coughSLcough*

Or to give him another day to see if he suddenly bleeds town

On February 01 2015 18:47 rsoultin wrote:
I'm still up cause I'm an insomniac.

SL you boob. I quoted the so-called "scumread" of LS. Unless we're talking about different posts you don't have a leg to stand on there.

(Still <3 you as a person, though, you phoenix killer ;o;)

On February 02 2015 08:04 Trfel wrote:

Yes, the thread is absolutely hilarious.

Please ask your remaining mafia partner to concede? I don't care who it is, there is basically no way they can survive through four mislynches.

On February 02 2015 13:18 Onegu wrote:


Was this on purpose? Read close what she wrote on robik.

On February 02 2015 15:33 Breshke wrote:


Weren't you lynched in campus mafia?