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On March 03 2015 08:06 Half the Sky wrote: This is quite interesting. We either have a scum player not happy at his alignment or a townie that is just bored of being town... And the point of posting this is? | ||
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On March 03 2015 08:12 Half the Sky wrote: That was the first impression I got just reading that. Impulse. Thinking through it harder I'm inclined to say you're town, because if I recall right, you don't seem to be someone who is too enthusiastic or posts a whole lot when he's town. This looks like you're just making a read up under pressure to deliver, expect me to be particularly suspicious of you cause of that inconclusive post. Do you really think that post alone was enough to get a townread on FF? Smells like TMI. | ||
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On March 03 2015 08:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote: What exactly are you expecting ftr? A bunch of people pressured her to draw a conclusion so would you just expect her to say nothing? Scum points for you. This is how I would write a post as scum. when I have something inconclusive and get asked for a conclusion I wont try to force a conclusion upon something inconclusive, cause im not afraid of leaving it at that. hts was afraid, crumbled under pressure and tried to appease the inquiring people by posting a conclusion that is way too early to make and off a single post, so hts is probably mafia | ||
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On March 03 2015 08:26 Fecalfeast wrote: Do we know if your mom is a smurf or just an off-site non-newb? smurf | ||
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On March 03 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote: YM, it's called a tone read. And I've played with Fecalfeast before. I also find it amusing you say my posting was forced considering I posted on impulse, and it was the first thing that came to my mind. We either have a scum player not happy at his alignment or a townie that is just bored of being town... you jumped to the conclusion that he's town with bad logic and only after getting pressured, if you were town that conclusion would have been there from the start, but you can hardly scumread him after getting three people on your tail, so you created a townread manufacturing a conclusive post instead of pressing the point that it was just you impulsively thinking. who doesnt like getting townread | ||
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On March 03 2015 09:43 Toadesstern wrote: ##Shoot: Half the Sky agreed with (I think rayns?) idea that her early post was odd. She continues to make a lot of really, really crappy posts like: All in all, nothing like the shining beacon of towniness she was in last game. Leaning pretty heavy mafia right now, not only on lack of towniness but on actually being scummy the way she posts. That being said, can we please change it to just ##vote: XYZ I don't want someone to shoot someone because our "vote" and the official shooting phrase are the same thing except for a ':' ... im quite jealous that you attribute hts being called out to rayn, cause he was the fourth in a series of three in which i think i was the first to point out the scummy posting. rayn basically just called her mafia without a given reason and then proceeded to do so with a lot of other people including me, diluting his committment to a mafia hts and giving himself a lot of other options without pushing anyone in particular. | ||
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On March 03 2015 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well that's what i have been telling since i called Koshi mafia. sandroba your mom maybe mocsta maybe slam, maybe.. someone who has not posted all i remember is you calling hts mafia after me and after FF and OWS called her inconclusive post out, then you called me mafia after OWS called me out, at that point you weren't giving reasons, just quoting and calling people mafia based on what looked like thread sentiment, or the sentiment of the people posting at the time. | ||
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On March 03 2015 18:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: and i asked you how ,my play mirrors this: because that's what you literally said. Please do not dodge the question. cause you called people mafia consecutively without giving reasons, and then dont seem eager to focus on one in specific to get people to agree with you. that should answer the question. its more like you're shooting into all directions with a toy gun rather than securing one reliable lynch. | ||
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On March 03 2015 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi is mafia because he is uninterested in the game and definitely not even trying to scumhunt. sandroba is mafia because he is actually really good at this game as town and really bad as mafia and he is bad here. I have in fact explained this read already, if you just happened to be town you would know this because you would actually read your scumreads (my) posts. Which of those two reads you disagree with? i dont have to disagree with your reads in order to scumread you. hts is my scumread of choice and you are still a secondary matter, but i cant leave the things unsaid that dont add up in your play. i know you well rayn and i know that if you call somebody scum and people dont agree with you it fuels your ambition to the point that you might just leave the game (for a while at least) when they dont listen. that being said, i dont see why i have to discuss your scumreads with you when you called hts mafia and ignored my reasoning for her being it and called me scum for it, and refuse to answer a cordial question right now. | ||
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On March 03 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: your mom can you just tell me if you agree/disagree with my reads on koshi and sandroba? Then i'll answer anything you want me to. in my own time i will post a read on them, i have work to do now and have to go in one hour | ||
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On March 03 2015 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: so you couldn't even post "agree" or "disagree" (which would actually make me contribute towards what YOU want) and you call me out for not answering your questions? i call bs im just f5ing the front page occasionally at the moment. not gonna give out forced reads cause you want me to. difference between you and me is i call people mafia and post reasoning. you call people mafia post no reasoning and when asked for reasoning want me to post reasoning about people i didnt call mafia. so of the two of us you're the one with the weaker standing trust me. | ||
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On March 03 2015 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: but you just gave out a forced read on me. Because obviously you haven't even read the thread. Yet you call me mafia for not explaining my reads (which i have in fact done), and for keeping my options open (which is definitely not correct). did you explain the read on me and hts? and how do you define my read on you as forced, it would be forced if i didnt give it out on my own, but i did. | ||
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i might reveal my identity to push my agenda further, which is to lynch hts in particular cause i dont care about her later posts if a few were enough to convince me. i also might not reveal myself and just get shot, rayn definitely has the balls to do that as either alignment, but he will just hurt town and himself, and i definitely have enough schadenfreude to let that happen. the latter is much more likely as i cba to make multiple smurf accounts. talking reads: moving rayn to the townpile cause of his later posts, some lengthy ones in particular i dont think he would have made as scum. but its not a read i will apply to the entire game without looking back. thats just me being me. koshi martyring didnt look good, then again i can see it coming easily from town perspective, first cause it isnt made to look good, second cause ive been in his shoes already, which is why im smurfing. people will always try look at your highest standard of town play to try to prove youre scum in some other game, a mistake i was guilty of way too many times. im willing to let him play out d1 the way he wants to and then see if the motivation to solve the game comes up, cause that would be a strong reliable town tell after the ongoing self-imposed hiatus. skimmed over mocstas case on breshke and breshkes posts but was focused mainly on koshi rayn and hts. speaking of hts, my read is likely to not change as i dont see why i should forgive a mistake a likely scum has made. if you catch mafia off a few posts, you caught mafia. if they manage to adapt their play and you reevaluate based on posts where they dont make mistakes, you make the mistake and mafia slips away. been there, seen that from both perspectives. there was nothing interesting about FFs post, but she tries to say it is in a post that concludes with null. i dont need more. later she townreads him cause she feels she has to cause of that post that put her into the spotlight. thats just another cherry on top. reading on after reemphasizing this. | ||
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On March 04 2015 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: There are now two people, Koshi and Half the Sky who should say something smart about your mom and Toadesstern. Now is your time to shine if you are town. just noticed this. why half the sky if you dont think shes scummy anyway. this is only something you would say to somebody thinking he has to step it up. you make an appeal to a town- and a scumread. | ||
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On March 04 2015 03:44 rsoultin wrote: Seriously, epiphany just said: I don't want to shoot koshi for...no reason YM works cause sheeping rayn long useless rant on why whoever is shooting should have good reasons for shooting who they are going to shoot then peaces out meeeeeeh post and if koshi is town lynch this guy epiphany is my likely top town pick for the moment, just looks extremely committed to what he says, and what he says is committing (unlike hts post on FF). im just sad he agrees on shooting me. | ||
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On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote: Rayn, Toad, Geript are pretty obvious towns. You're town too, although I feel like Eden would scum you for having a low emote to post ratio. You have been interacting quite a bit. Mocsta is town for his zealousness going against Epiphany. I think Epiphany is town too because he reminds me of Jarjar stubbornly holding onto his equation (device and how to shoot plan). Keirathi, Sandroba, Robik (until a just a moment ago), Sicklucker haven't done anything. I'm scumming them for that. I have a tinfoil hat theory on how to read Sicklucker, so if a couple pieces fall together for him I could town him. Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him. rayns arguments are that i scumread people off a few posts before looking at the entire game, and keep scumreading them for those posts (which is supposed to make the whole "fabricated") now point me to the part you find convincing please. rayn called me mafia on the get go so he couldnt have thought that i was mafia cause stubborn, since it was shortly after game start and before i went to bed. he called me mafia after i woke up today for reasons. but the first time he calls me mafia, do you see a reason for it? | ||
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On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote: Rayn, Toad, Geript are pretty obvious towns. You're town too, although I feel like Eden would scum you for having a low emote to post ratio. You have been interacting quite a bit. Mocsta is town for his zealousness going against Epiphany. I think Epiphany is town too because he reminds me of Jarjar stubbornly holding onto his equation (device and how to shoot plan). Keirathi, Sandroba, Robik (until a just a moment ago), Sicklucker haven't done anything. I'm scumming them for that. I have a tinfoil hat theory on how to read Sicklucker, so if a couple pieces fall together for him I could town him. Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him. inclined to agree on toad, too early for rayn to be obvious, didnt really see geript shining town, in fact i should take a look at him, why is geript obvious town? | ||
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On March 03 2015 08:02 geript wrote: I actually am pretty sure that HTS is going to get shot by me in 24 hours. Like 98% sure unless somebody is a complete dumbass and tunnels me for a really dumbass reason. geript do you still stand by this | ||
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On March 04 2015 04:00 Tubesock wrote: I didn't see a reason for him scumming you at first. But later he does, and lays them out. I read Rayn's case and thought that makes sense. I then reread your filter and the first few pages looking at you and skimming the rest, but then I don't see the scum. But I really think Rayn is town. So, I'm conflicted and unsure. It is why I'm not voting you just yet. Geript is doing stuff and interacting a lot. He grilled Epiphany (still even but more politely). He doesn't appear to be afraid to say anything and is pushing an agenda. There's some things he's done that seemed scummy (pushing for chaos with plan rejection and not pushing an alternative, pushing the ninja stuff) but that stuff is either outweighed by or explained by his other actions. It's definitely possible he's scum, but we can't shoot him today. No way. there are no votes today. scum would be dumb not to shoot and let the day end that way, the good ones will try their best to prepare their reasoning for the shot they are going to choose. in fact i find it scummy you didnt think about this, it gives me the impression youre disconnected from the game. in fact you play all the way like youre trying to not get your hands dirty, moving responsibility away from you etc. | ||
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On March 04 2015 04:13 IAmRobik wrote: WHEN THE FUCK DID YOU HAVE RAYN IN YOUR TOWN PILE?!?!? literally a few posts before that one | ||
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His case on HtS. Same thing here as above. HtS was asked to give a read on someone. She did, yet your mom somehow turns this into "you fabricated a read because you needed to give one". It is at least as likely that HtS gave the read as town because SHE WAS ASKED TO!! She answered a question "what do you think my alignment is". Why is it impossible this is the case here? That -- for a vet player -- should be at worst a null-tell. im going to take this out of rayns case on me to further cementate my point. a town hts had to say she couldnt tell based on her previous post. but cause she worded it like something worthy of consideration when it wasnt (for the purpose of looking scumhunty: it led to an exaggeration), she was forced to give FF a read. On March 03 2015 08:06 Half the Sky wrote: This is quite interesting. We either have a scum player not happy at his alignment or a townie that is just bored of being town... On March 03 2015 08:12 Half the Sky wrote: That was the first impression I got just reading that. Impulse. Thinking through it harder I'm inclined to say you're town, because if I recall right, you don't seem to be someone who is too enthusiastic or posts a whole lot when he's town. first of all, a scum player not happy about his alignment will never post about it in the thread like ff did, its just awful logic to even consider it, and scummy play to post about it along with the other side of the medal. then, the argument used in the second post doesnt connect to the previous post at all. it takes any legitimacy she could have had to post the first post. what does a scum do in this case? throw first post into the trash and try again with something new that appeases the guys attacking you. this is my observation of her second post. i dont think it has to do with gender that somebody will try to force a read out of himself cause asked. in her situation i would have said "look at it yourself, does it look like i know how to read FF cause of it?". might be a mistake to relate this to "what would i do", but i feel confident in having landed a hit on scum here cause of the lack of confidence and adaptation to the wishes of others while under threat, which is part of scum agenda in order to not get killed. The latter by the way is something tubesock looks also guilty of. | ||
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On March 04 2015 04:15 IAmRobik wrote: So you moved him from town to "too early to read" to "not town" in the matter of 5 posts? i put the caveat in there that i will keep that read subject to change cause we are dealing with rayn, not some newb scum, ive seen him do some shit as scum, being a disruptive influence but still townread for effort playing a big part in it. Read my posts more carefully then try again. | ||
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points of smartness to the guy who uncovers my identity now. On March 04 2015 04:20 geript wrote: My order: Koshi--Bitch plz Onegu--I'm actually really glad you brought him up. I had kinda forgotten about him. That's actually quite telling. Sandroba--I think there's better ways of finding his alignment but probably not a bad shot Your Mom--Maybe rayn is right. Maybe rayn is crazy. Those are the only people I really agree with. Robik is kinda tbd but his townlist is pretty solid for the most part I think. Slam's town. I remember thinking Damdred was town. what are the better ways of finding sandrobas alignment? you talk like its something concrete, lets hear it. | ||
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On March 04 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: why am i drunk your mom? i feel like i want to scumread you for certain things (looking at your early filter it just looks like you throw out scumreads like candy that doesnt stick), then again i just thought "maybe hes just going haywire again" and want to assume youre just being stupid in your conclusion on me. so when i read the last post where you advocate a shot on me, i just felt a surge of omgus and thought youre playing too dumb to be town, posted "out of the townpile", when the surge was losing steam i reconsidered and limited myself to call you dumb, wording it differently as a potshot. | ||
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On March 04 2015 04:37 Half the Sky wrote: I'm back. Here's where I stand doing some more filter diving. Kita - Inclined to scumread him atm. From Carol, I do recall him being a low-count high content poster, his first few posts are on mechanics and his opinion on your mom doesn't say anything new of substance that others had not touched on already. Koshi - from modding Horn where he was scum, he'd pop in and try to stay lighthearted but had some trouble emulating his town game and I recall marv calling him out early on. I'm inclined to BOD him given his real life schedule atm, so I don't think he's a good shot for today. Right now, I'd say my top shots would be YM, Kita, and anyone else in the forgettables list, like Onegu, Bats, Oats (I even forgot he was in the game). im in the forgettables list? | ||
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On March 04 2015 04:34 rsoultin wrote: hrum... we just got out of a game where FF was so happy to be town lol we were convinced he may be 3p...so that's a strange read from HtS regardless are you the other knight in shining armor? will you be my sancho panza? | ||
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with a grain of tinfoil, i will say that the red guys dont want her dead. | ||
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didnt see keirathis posts yet, but i dont see a town kurumi yet. he tends to be shot fairly early as town and to hide behind troll plays as scum, still saw only the latter. | ||
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On March 04 2015 04:45 Tubesock wrote: My tinfoil hat says Your Mom is Palmar. I keep thinking about Palmar when I read his stuff. Mostly, fantastically early scumread on someone and sticking to it for years. im a palmar fan but im not palmar. palmar is able to post a lot as scum, im not. im just as literate in english as he is, for a not british european. | ||
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On March 04 2015 05:18 kitaman27 wrote: Can someone verify this statement? I would but the database post always times out when I'm at work through the proxy and I'm a bit lazy to search manually. For someone who is familiar with his play, is koshi more likely to quit the thread as mafia when he is on the receiving end of pressure? My meta on him is that he piles up on mislynches and is content with not trying to take leadership, also he posts less words. I think he's just genuinely frustrated, but can't confirm until I see the long term play. | ||
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kurumis reads are awful and his roleplay makes him look awful, last time i saw him roleplay or post bollocks he was scum. rayns argument "he wouldnt do x or y neither as town nor as scum" for him being town doesn't make sense from where im at. | ||
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he caught me once, said you can catch mafia off a single post. no comments on hts post which caused a wat reaction in multiple people before each decided to do his own thing starting from there. | ||
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On March 04 2015 06:24 IAmRobik wrote: I'm shooting lightning strike -- i've decided. Sorry for all of you other people who think your opinions matter well if you shoot town i hope you are not town cause it can cause collateral damage to the 0 % lynched thingy. reading his shit however, now that its not nuked. i hope at least. | ||
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Asking this cause i dont understand the reasons for starting the game with such a bunch of reads, but maybe im missing the context for you posting about those particular people and it was just guys who were posting at the time? Anyway can you enlighten me cause without enlighting it glims red. | ||
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when you quote it it is :D | ||
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On March 04 2015 06:30 IAmRobik wrote: i was talking to your mom most of it but hard to find out who between rayn and SL koshi hates the most, afaik rayn started the whole thing with his "x is mafia"-routine. | ||
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On March 04 2015 06:42 sicklucker wrote: Like im pretty sure koshis the leading candidate for the shoot and since im here ill be attempting to make it any objections? Yes, dont shoot. lynch. Same outcome, more time, but you have to sacrifice a bit of your e-peen. And i dont feel particularly confident into somebody who says hes catching up at like half of the game. | ||
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and made no case, but koshi is a popular target, if hes town hes a safe shot, so what tells me you aren't just following thread sentiment instead of having an own line of reasoning on him you communicate to the thread? So far you and geript have seen him being scum as a no brainer, rayn managed to put me ahead of him. Me and kita arent as confident about koshi as you are, for me it's partly cause he spends so much energy on ranting, partly cause i have to exclude the frustrated townie hypothesis, which i cant if you shoot him. Also decided to guard the device, i agree with what epiphany said, and i cant get that picture of a caveman tribe euphorically hitting an atomic bomb out of my head. | ||
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On March 04 2015 06:58 geript wrote: You all can take your shots after I take mine. confirmed lurking | ||
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On March 04 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote: Town: Geript: Meta plus he been pushing a lot this game and asking a ton of questions and following them up too. Robik: He always gets mad at me when he's Town and as Mafia he wasn't that mad. Rayn: Post game in Titanic he said he was changing his play style so idk if it was alignment indicative but he been pressuring people and asking some decent questions. Toad: Carefree play for opening which exactly how he was in Hammertime when I was a Cohost but after the opening he been asking decent questions towards others. Tubesock: Seems to play to his meta asking some curious questions but also was more than willing to do a vote count thing which I don't Mafia bother doing tbh with you. Kita: Seems to play similar to how he played in Carol which was very high content type of posts although some of them were just on mechanics but the way he questions people after that was something I saw him do in Carol. AT.Epiphany: First time playing with him but he got some okay questions but follows them up and seemed to be fighting some universally town read players which would be suicide if he was Mafia. FF: He seemed very unmotivated at the start but he seemed to be himself after that with some questioning and pressuring Tubesock OWS: His Day 1s were horrible the last couple of times I played with him when he was town but he seemed to be willing to do filter diving after I asked to. Slight town read Slam: My weakest townread but he seemed to think logically but he kind of disappeared O_o I hope he comes back. Null: Breshke: I remember making a weak meta case on Breshke on Day 1 in Student V and I was so wrong on his alignment though but would prefer to see how he progress into the game he had some okay questioning. HTS: I struggling to read you after you rolled Mafia twice (Void and Newbie LX) and in Newbie LX I gave you a quick meta town read and got rekt'd by it so I not making that mistake again >.> You had some decent questioning but please bleed town for me this game? <3 rsoultin: I love baby girl but you seemed so happy idk I know you can do this as either alignment so bleed town this game please baby girl? Sicklucker: I can't read his Day 1 anymore after what happened in Linux and Slytherin with him rolling Mafia twice on me. Bleed town please sicklucker! Damdred: The last time I called Damdred town really early was titanic when he replaced in with his type of posting so I need him to bleed green. All the stuff he posted he can do as either alignment. OWS: His Day 1s were horrible the last couple of times I played with him when he was town but he seemed to be willing to do filter diving after I asked to. Sandora: Not a lot of posts from him and not really doing much so far would like to see how he progresses as the time goes on since it's my first time playing with him but people said he is a really good town player. Bats: Not really posted much during his time in the thread I need more stuff from him. Keirathi : Only played with him once but he seemed more inactive this game compared to Slytherin when he was Town but than again this is the first 24 hours into the game so would like to see him do more stuff. Oats: No posts at all. Mafia: Mocsta: Didn't post much so far but seemed trolly or Mafia idk which. Kurumi: Same reason as Mocsta seemed very trolly and calling himself Chez and can't tell if the trolling is Mafia or Town indicative for him. Your Mom: I like Rayns case on Your Mom esp about Your Mom had attacked both Rayn and HTS's reads and his thing on Koshi was meh. Shoot with fire. i can tell you its mafia indicative for kurumi when he trolls. Already did. cant remember where i got the information that he dies early as town but its not even a reason to read him either way at this point. not sure what about mocsta is trolly and why trolly = always mafia. Why is my thing on Koshi meh but he doesnt appear anywhere in your reads??????? | ||
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On March 04 2015 07:09 sicklucker wrote: Ls with 0 scum reads. Thats a town tell for him I believe then read again -.- | ||
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Btw Robik you have my clearance for an LS shot since he replied with that awful list. So I won't pursue you if he flips town, id prefer if we didnt shoot at all still. HTS on ice for now. if shes mafia i will find more as the game progresses, ive broadly made my point clear, and i dont intend to shoot. now hopefully you guys can start to see who is pushing an agenda detrimental to town and who isn't. we have a first flip and more information. revisit anyone who planned on shooting koshi, but i think i already pointed out 2 people who said shooting him was a nobrainer when it really wasnt, it was just what a lot of people were saying. | ||
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town points for holding the shot and just fucking talking, cause you catch mafia by talking and not (only) shooting fish in a barrel. | ||
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On March 04 2015 07:45 IAmRobik wrote: Someone give me koshi's reads he agreed on the hts being scum thingy i think. thats the only read i remember (no shit, i was thinking the same and still think she is just based off those two posts) | ||
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