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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On March 10 2015 08:56 Fecalfeast wrote: 1) sorry for being inactive and bad 2)I knew slam was mafia but couldn't articulate it, oh well. 3)I want to see the spirit's options Check the spirit QTs linked above | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
Well, I was proud to get Geript and Sandroba. Bad reasons but still right I guess. I was wondering why Kurumi didn't post anything during the day. Not enough to scum him for a few days though. well done mafia | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
Furthermore, if you're going to enforce a rule like that with no exceptions, how about the fact that both keirathi and kurmi missed a vote in a game where voting is mandatory? Kurumi didn't even post during day three, yet you kill epi for the same reason. If you're going to make an exception to the voting rule and let people off with a warning, isn't enforcing the onegu modkill is a bit harsh? Town got 2 mislynches in a 6 mafia setup? Eww. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On March 10 2015 09:01 kitaman27 wrote: lol seriously? You post that Onegu can take the shot and then you modkill him when he posts? For such a simple misunderstanding, ending the game is incredibly extreme. Furthermore, if you're going to enforce a rule like that with no exceptions, how about the fact that both keirathi and kurmi missed a vote in a game where voting is mandatory? Kurumi didn't even post during day three, yet you kill epi for the same reason. If you're going to make an exception to the voting rule and let people off with a warning, you really felt that you had to enforce the onegu modkill? Town got 2 mislynches in a 6 mafia setup? What a waste of our time. it was endgame no matter what. Pretty much just a fast night to end it... btw, I saved your ass n1 from being shot and you did get shot! get killed n1, protected a townie from being shot. I did my job I'm honestly still shocked that you guys didn't kill Sandroba. He was the deepest red I give out to people that have not yet flipped in my chart, Rayn said Sandroba is super mafia. Rayn and I both die, Sandroba ends up in Cell and you guys just lynch the random whatever-guy?  | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On March 10 2015 09:01 kitaman27 wrote: lol seriously? You post that Onegu can take the shot and then you modkill him when he posts? For such a simple misunderstanding, ending the game is incredibly extreme. Furthermore, if you're going to enforce a rule like that with no exceptions, how about the fact that both keirathi and kurmi missed a vote in a game where voting is mandatory? Kurumi didn't even post during day three, yet you kill epi for the same reason. If you're going to make an exception to the voting rule and let people off with a warning, you really felt that you had to enforce the onegu modkill? Town got 2 mislynches in a 6 mafia setup? What a waste of our time. Look at Foolishness spirit QT. He had enough points this cycle to buy 3 bulletproof vests + medic ability. He gave stuff to mafia N1 and N2 (no doubt because he was busy). Three shurikens hit town. The only reason you had two mislynches was due to everything going our way. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
As for the modkill itself, I had mentioned a strict no-post past deadline rule which I put in big blue letters before the game. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On March 10 2015 09:04 syllogism wrote: Look at Foolishness spirit QT. He had enough points this cycle to buy 4 bulletproof vests. He gave stuff to mafia N1. Three shurikens hit town. The only reason you had two mislynches was due to everything going our way. we had this in obs-QT: I think some kind of diminishing returns or well, the opposite of that I just don't know what it's called in english, would have been nice. Something like "buying a role makes buying the same role again X more expensive during that very night it's used as well as Y more expensive permanently." To force some variety thoughts? would have made it a little more interesting... I mean you just ended up buying vig no matter what because it's plain the best thing you can get | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
As for me, I think I have quite a lot of explaining to do assuming that Rasputin and/or OWS don't submit ban requests for me. (Yes I shot both of them as third party ninja. FML.) My reads were way off this game, and I wound up mafia siding hard. The fact that 5 of us - 4 town and myself trying to be town-aligned just jumped on SL....I don't even. What a mess up that was. As I explained in Obs QT, I shot Rasputin deliberately even through I TRed her. It was self-preservation because my D1 went south so quickly - too many people didn't know how to read me - and I had RL stuff that would prevent me from posting as much, so I needed to take out someone that would can me for activity. It was between her and SL to shoot D1 and I picked her since she harped on my posting. If my D1 had gone better I would have shot into Bats/OWS/Fecalfeast, similar to a vigilante kill. 100% preservation, nothing more, nothing less. D2 I shot OWS - I don't know how to read him. His filter looked shady and I had him between 50% scum and 50% ninja 1. The way we all lumped onto SL at the end...I was so sure SOMEONE was taking advantage of a town fuckup. The truth was we all fucked up. I voted sicklucker out of pure paranoia, because he'd deceived town so many times through his style of posting. Even though I just had bad bad bad feelings about sandroba's gameplay. That proved to be completely diabolical on my end. That said I have never played third party ever before. I hope I never RNG third party again, even though I met wincon, but only so through modkills. I really had close to zero idea what I was doing, so I just went for self-preservation and tried to play my town game as best as I could since I need stupid amounts of work on that. This game only goes to show that RL aside, I need more work than I thought. Bats's scum meta is that he does jack all, and he did jack all. There was also a lot of townies not playing well, with the exception of SL/Tube/Kita. So town, I'm sorry for hurting you lot. My commiserations. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On March 10 2015 09:07 Toadesstern wrote: we had this in obs-QT: thoughts? would have made it a little more interesting... I mean you just ended up buying vig no matter what because it's plain the best thing you can get Something like that would have worked and perhaps some incentive for mafia spirit to give a townie items. Maybe bonus points or cheaper items when given to a townie. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Basicly an enemy boss in a game, but everyone likes her so much despite her being an enemy because she's frickin' adoreable so we're just keeping her around as long as possible and HNNNNG everytime we see her. Should have explained that before dying  Also, geript played really well d1. He should not play while drunk though, he instantly scumslipped on d2 lol | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
Something like 21 - 5 with Factional KP at 2 until the first mafia dies. I think the Game could also be balanced in the costing of the Powers (increasing KP cost) setting the factional KP at 1 or just removing the Factional KP entirely. I really liked the concept and I think the game could be tweaked to be more balanced. I would like to hear peoples thoughts. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 10 2015 09:03 Toadesstern wrote: btw, I saved your ass n1 from being shot and you did get shot! get killed n1, protected a townie from being shot. I did my job Thanks <3 Lynch mechanics were interesting at least. A couple were based on availability at the exact time of the deadline, which is a bit unfair to people. I'm not really sure that the 4 third party kp really fit in the setup though. They make the game pretty swingy that way and I'm not sure they made the game much more interesting. I'll have to check out the spirit roles. Grats to mafia team | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On March 10 2015 09:11 Keirathi wrote: Not sure what you're apologizing for HTS. You played to your win-con. Even if you had perfect reads, if you lynch all the mafia but survive, you still lose. Ehhhh, let's just say from what I understand a number of people in Obs QT were pissed at the ninjas, especially the one that shot two townies. And Rasputin knows me very well, she will be fuming when she discovers that I shot her. EDIT: Also people were under the impression that she was shot because of Rayn and Koshi telling the ninja to shoot her. In actuality, that was completely untrue. I'm painfully aware dead townies can be wrong. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
I'd like to know how the points system worked, it seemed quite snowball, once mafia were on a roll...that was it. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On March 10 2015 09:12 DarthPunk wrote: Well I advised Artanis to do a 19-5-2 split if I recall correctly but he over-ruled me and went with 18-6-2 which I personally feel is a bit Imbalanced. You always want the Town - Mafia to be closer to 4:1 than 3:1 I also think I would have removed third parties entirely due to the nature of the game being centered around two factions and their spirits. Something like 21 - 5 with Factional KP at 2 until the first mafia dies. I think the Game could also be balanced in the costing of the Powers (increasing KP cost) setting the factional KP at 1 or just removing the Factional KP entirely. I really liked the concept and I think the game could be tweaked to be more balanced. I would like to hear peoples thoughts. I don't necessarily have a problem with 3p in this game in general, but 2 shots each just makes the game super swingy in a setup that is already swingy with all the vigs flying around. I think ninjas could be interesting in some other kind of way. Maybe something like they get a shot that only works on the other ninja, but they have some other abilities to try to weed out the other ninja in some way. As it was, they were just blindly shooting and just hoping they were right (well, except Robik didn't even try to hit the other ninja with his last shot...which seems really strange mechanics-wise in hindsight). | ||
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