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On March 10 2015 09:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Lynch mechanics I do agree were mafia favoured, but I'm no balance expert, so I'm not going to go out all criticising.
I'd like to know how the points system worked, it seemed quite snowball, once mafia were on a roll...that was it.
Town spirit started with 6, I started with 4. We both gained 2 points every cycle. Items costs varied between 1 to 5. Read spirit QTs for more info. It appears that pushing the machine was town favored as it gave Foolishness 7 (?) points and me only 5.
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That is pretty gay although they knew the rules. GG town had little chance in this themed game
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I don't think the lynch mechanics were really mafia favored at all. In a sense we even lucked out to get the dayvig thing first. Sure it's the worst thing for town but had we gotten that later, especially during lylo/mylo that'd been way worse.
Mostly just the sheer amount of KP that was floating around with mafia spirit buying nothing but KP for his team as well as a lot of people behaving really toxic early on. Mostly looking at koshi (modkill), robik (confirmed himself by posting info about a pm conversation with the host and it's contents), Mocsta during n1 (could have been a stunt but who knows) as well as just a lot of bullying in ego in general...
Oh yeah, probably change the ninja to 1-shot + ninja-cop instead of 2-shot without ninja-cop if it's already this swingy.
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Town was crap not seeing the claim Sandroba and how it would work for mafia - it was obvious to me.
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On March 10 2015 09:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Lynch mechanics I do agree were mafia favoured, but I'm no balance expert, so I'm not going to go out all criticising.
I'd like to know how the points system worked, it seemed quite snowball, once mafia were on a roll...that was it.
How were hte lynch mechanics mafia favored!?! Everything else that happened in the game might have been, but Resistance and Cell were by far the "worst" lynch mechanics available in the pool for mafia. 2 "list check" mechanics in a row could have have been devastating if it weren't for all the extra KP going around.
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On March 10 2015 09:22 scott31337 wrote:
Town was crap not seeing the claim Sandroba and how it would work for mafia - it was obvious to me.
Who are you and why are you shitting up the post game with these kinds of comments?
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On March 10 2015 09:23 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 09:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Lynch mechanics I do agree were mafia favoured, but I'm no balance expert, so I'm not going to go out all criticising.
I'd like to know how the points system worked, it seemed quite snowball, once mafia were on a roll...that was it. How were hte lynch mechanics mafia favored!?! Everything else that happened in the game might have been, but Resistance and Cell were by far the "worst" lynch mechanics available in the pool for mafia. 2 "list check" mechanics in a row could have have been devastating if it weren't for all the extra KP going around.
the duel thing is another nightmare for mafia because whoever duels is almost confirmed town lol
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On March 05 2015 08:49 sicklucker wrote:
Like theres no town roles we all got a green font "town" pm obviously mafia didnt know that.
I have to admit I was really influenced by this post on day two. I couldn't imaging a world where a town player would try to cheat like that or where he wouldn't be insta-modkilled, but I suppose it would be unfair to mafia to modkill a cell member and it's my fault for trying to read into mod actions a bit too much.
Any chance we could get an action list? Not really clear how the powers were distributed based on the qt.
Also pretty funny that everyone was so convinced I was a ninja XD
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On March 10 2015 09:13 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 09:11 Keirathi wrote:
Not sure what you're apologizing for HTS. You played to your win-con. Even if you had perfect reads, if you lynch all the mafia but survive, you still lose. Ehhhh, let's just say from what I understand a number of people in Obs QT were pissed at the ninjas, especially the one that shot two townies. And Rasputin knows me very well, she will be fuming when she discovers that I shot her. EDIT: Also people were under the impression that she was shot because of Rayn and Koshi telling the ninja to shoot her. In actuality, that was completely untrue. I'm painfully aware dead townies can be wrong.
lol I was fuming because I was enjoying the game lol (but making all the wrong reads, as usual) so no worries HTS. getting shot by ninjas was fume-worthy, but y'all were just doing your thing. it actually makes me less annoyed that you didn't think I was a ninja when you did it >> that was baffling to me
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On March 10 2015 09:13 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 09:11 Keirathi wrote:
Not sure what you're apologizing for HTS. You played to your win-con. Even if you had perfect reads, if you lynch all the mafia but survive, you still lose. [...] EDIT: Also people were under the impression that she was shot because of Rayn and Koshi telling the ninja to shoot her. In actuality, that was completely untrue. I'm painfully aware dead townies can be wrong.
you should have lynched Sandroba like the dead townies told you to 
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I have 25 unread pms in my inbox from the actions after day one ^_^ I basically did zero co-hosting lol.
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On March 10 2015 09:24 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 09:22 scott31337 wrote:
Town was crap not seeing the claim Sandroba and how it would work for mafia - it was obvious to me.
Who are you and why are you shitting up the post game with these kinds of comments?
Not nice of you to speak like that.
I like Spirits idea, I like the Ninjas - what I would change is probably Town Spirit powers. Like let him give a power to random TOWN player. Give a random power to random town player. So he knows it goes to the right hands, but he doesn't know what or else. Lynch mechanics were crazy man, I was so scared of Cell/Resistance.
Thanks for hosting, it was really good for a Themed idea-factory game! I had fun, probably should post more (because I had an awesome universe for myself...) and hosting was nice. My Mafia team was a pleasant bunch, thanks for the cooperation guys.
I also agree with Toad that bullying is absolutely terrible.
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kitaman27, you had this ninja plan in your first post that really set me off. OBS also talked a lot of ninjas and was scared of them... Guess I was going for a low hanging fruit 
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On March 10 2015 09:25 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 08:49 sicklucker wrote:
Like theres no town roles we all got a green font "town" pm obviously mafia didnt know that. I have to admit I was really influenced by this post on day two. I couldn't imaging a world where that wouldn't be considered cheating and insta-modkilled, but I suppose it would be unfair to mafia to modkill a cell member and it's my fault for trying to read into mod actions a bit too much. Any chance we could get an action list? Not really clear how the powers were distributed based on the qt.
I'm not really sure what is mod-killable about that? AFAIK, it's always been permissive to claim your role PM as long as you don't copy-paste it in thread. And mafia was given the same role pm, and same sample fake pm.
Unless I'm missing something :o
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On March 10 2015 09:28 Toadesstern wrote:you should have lynched Sandroba like the dead townies told you to
N1 or N2? N1 I had to shoot for preservation because if the lynch mechanic wasn't in my favour, I very well could have been duelled by someone who didn't like me for instance and I would have gotten annihilated.
N2, I debated shooting Sandroba, but I really wanted to kill that other ninja. I saw ninja in ObiWanShinobi. I thought "omg hero play" and I was clamouring to hit him right as 72h mark hit.
It was not a hero play.
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On March 10 2015 09:24 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 09:22 scott31337 wrote:
Town was crap not seeing the claim Sandroba and how it would work for mafia - it was obvious to me.
Who are you and why are you shitting up the post game with these kinds of comments?
Because I like reading mafia games and learning from others - Like Palmar said - three rules to mafia - figure out the mafia - explain cases and push those you believe in - prevent your mislynch
I'm only good at the first one.
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lynch him on d2, not shoot him.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On March 10 2015 09:29 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 09:25 kitaman27 wrote:On March 05 2015 08:49 sicklucker wrote:
Like theres no town roles we all got a green font "town" pm obviously mafia didnt know that. I have to admit I was really influenced by this post on day two. I couldn't imaging a world where that wouldn't be considered cheating and insta-modkilled, but I suppose it would be unfair to mafia to modkill a cell member and it's my fault for trying to read into mod actions a bit too much. Any chance we could get an action list? Not really clear how the powers were distributed based on the qt. I'm not really sure what is mod-killable about that? AFAIK, it's always been permissive to claim your role PM as long as you don't copy-paste it in thread. And mafia was given the same role pm, and same sample fake pm. Unless I'm missing something :o
I was under the impression it broke this one:
Breadcrumbing the specific phrasing of your role PM. Do not compare the phrasing in your role PM to prove your alignment.
Especially the discussion of the format since I know several people have been banned for that in the past and every host may not include the color of the text in the sample PM. Not that it would have made a difference though it seems.
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On March 10 2015 09:28 Kurumi wrote:
I also agree with Toad that bullying is absolutely terrible.
1000%
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It was a fun setup, despite some balance issues. If you'll run this game again I suggest giving the town spirit a list of the people on his team too (or go the other way - don't tell the mafia spirit either! That could result in fun as well.)
Okay, so apparantly the town spirit didn't really read the thread but getting a spirit that does instead is at best a band-aid fix.
Either way I'm not trying to complain about the setup (much), as I said it was fun to play at least.
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Sorry for posting after.deadline. I got another cop check and was going to check slam too
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