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On January 16 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote: I have been patient enough I think to explain this point about 3 times already. SL stated " I will reclaim cop tomorrow" So I asked if he was going to do that. JAT and the votes convinced me SL was not mafia. I didn't know if he was cop or not. Again why does this make me mafia? Give me the name of a recent town game of yours. | ||
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it's not up-to-date, dear ![]() | ||
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Are you sure you're town? | ||
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Like, confirmed? | ||
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On January 16 2015 10:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Anyone who has been in a game with me as scum, yes. Is this going anywhere? Nah, just checking some WIFOMy meta. I went through your games and I don't really believe there is much difference between your scum and town play. What I did see was that you have a tedency to say something like "I'm so fucking town" in your town games. Loved the part where you said in a town game that "I am town because read the thread", like it was obvious | ||
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On January 16 2015 10:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Uh, there's this difference in my scum play that I tend to get lynched D1 or D2 whereas as Town I look clearly town. I also post way less and am less motivated in general as scum. You're pretty bad at meta if you didn't get that out of it. I'm actually decent with meta. I have seen those patterns but it's not THAT different as you make it look like. | ||
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On January 16 2015 10:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm feeling my tin foil hat. What if Kelsier is scum, Marv is town and he's defending him to feel like there's a fight going on? If that's true Marv will come back in full body armour though. His meek statement that he'll just sheep Kelsier doesn't look like that. This is extreme WIFOM. You're making me uneasy. | ||
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On January 16 2015 10:33 Vivax wrote: OK. THIS IS SLAM DUNK. Step 1: Open KElsiers filter Step 2; Go to D1 where he says DrH is super tryhard town Step 2: Go where he asks Sl why he thinks DrH is town. And then, after not having given a single comment on ritoky: TADAAAAAAA http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474082-imperial-mafia?page=24#463 Sorry, why is he mafia for this? | ||
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Town Kelsier is marked by aggressiveness http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?user=KelsierSC&page=12 I've played Guilty Mini Mafia with him and he was extremely aggressive. It was his FIRST game and his stances were really clear. Whoever read him as scum was promptly answered with a hostile post. Also, his posts seems a bit more extensive when town. Check these posts: On August 26 2014 22:22 KelsierSC wrote: Yeh you are fucking retarded or you just don't read properly. Va or Onegu are the targets for the lynch, they seemed scummy and inactive D1, they were not there for deadline , they seemed happy to let town wonder, they did not vote on robik. He can claim JoaT and say he checked rayn during the night. Like I have said this multiple times. I am not "hunting" SK, but my top town don't trust Hapa I can believe he is the SK and I don't think SK would be wise to try and lynch mafia at this point. I KNOW SK DOES NOT KNOW if Va is mafia, but if sk is voting for VA it is more likely he thinks VA is town than mafia. Your gameplay has been bad in my opinion. In the night you read rayn and me as scum, rayn flipped town and it is fairly obvious I am town. I don't even know what you are doing today. firstly you think VA is mafia, then I hard defend VA. so you unvote Va thinking he is legit now and then say I am mafia? If I am mafia I would just push on VA. you have no logic which is why I continue to think your gameplay is bad. I don't check old games sorry, your logic in THIS GAME is just flawed On August 26 2014 22:51 KelsierSC wrote: I don't think you can ever consider what I am doing as "trying to force a ML on Onegu", I gave solid reasons why he is scum none of my reasoning was flawed. If i "push" on onegu and he is town that reflects badly on me. If I just quietly vote on VA with the rest of town and he dies then there is no suspicion on me at all because everyone thought he was mafia. I think I was the first person to hard defend VA and his claim. I had no reasons for this. It is painful when confirmed town is this shit tier. Mafia Kelsier is marked by relaxation and strong townreads http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=KelsierSC&page=14 Fifth post of his filter: On October 07 2014 00:36 KelsierSC wrote: Bats and Oats are both town to me, "Bats trap" seems like a good town angle to me, I don't think Oats is faking frustration and it feels town to me. Ala is town, I like how he pointed out how HF just stepped in and started flinging shit. Grack seems really jokey and happy and posting a lot so probably town.. I don't like HF because of the aforementioned reason and the early vote just felt like he was totally misreading the thread. I also really didn't like this at all. I think it was such a meaningless and stupid question that no one bothered to respond to it. it just felt like a question to ask to appear active and buddy someone. It's the fifth post and he has already got townreads over bad reasons. See that he isn't that aggressive in this post either. Calls people town, but HF is just "weird". Also, look at the bolded on these next quotes. They are similar to some excuses Kelsier brings to the game: + Show Spoiler + On October 14 2014 09:43 KelsierSC wrote: I made it clear I thought OO was scum after he just abandoned the thread. Was there a really huge push by anyone d1 of any consequence. you pushed on lian, yep. can't think of anything else off the top of my head. Palmar came into the thread really late and I gave a pretty hard scum read of him, I also gave good reasons why liam is mafia, some of them you included in your big post. but I am not going to push a lynch on someone and maybe ML when it is clear OO is mafia. I wasn't directing pressure away. at the time bh came in with his RNG I really felt it was disruptive to the thread. I don't see how that makes me scummy if I get annoyed when town gets disrupted. and this obi thing is just silly, he was scummy, lots of town agreed with me. I led a push on him. I didn't just sit back or switch to an easier target. On October 15 2014 19:11 KelsierSC wrote: Slammed at work today, will make my case tonight. my reads haven't changed, slam is still mafia I think palmar is poisoner. given obi is cop. I imagine he checked hf n1 and then n2 he checked someone who died and that is why he didn't reveal. maybe bh was a good check for him. Either way i think the only relevant thing from obi being cop is that he called hf clear town. for palmar he kind of lurked and didn't contribute until d3 and that point his agenda was to kill hf and then wanting the medic to come out. Didn't agree with the logic. I don't like how he has such a strong town read on me. Yeh ive played a town game but my reads have been off considering i wanted to vote obi. for slam, what bugs me is that he admits the mafia is between him and me, then he proceeds to vote on dam, why, does he think dam is poisoner, i don't see how anyone can have that belief , again it just seemed like he wanted to lunch anyone that wasn't him. He also spoke nonsense for two days and was happy to vote obi because bh was doing it. I don't like his reasons. His play yesterday was illogical and he seemed to be wanting to cover his tracks. He was happy to be on a hf is psnr wagon with palmar, why isn't he concerned that palmar is suddenly alive and pushing the lynch on hf. he said "i think palmar and hf are both right" but they were saying different things. then you look at his votes and it doesn't look good either. i will make a case with quotes etc tonight, but csnt really do it in my phone. as for me. Ive been less active last day and night phase but i was still figuring out the game and did some excellent analysis on palmar being poisoner which people just ignored. The main scum read on me is i voted obi. I explained i found him scummy however it is not true that i jumped on a wagon ,.i led the push beginning d2 i had excellent reasons for it. tldr palmar psnr, slam mafia | ||
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On December 31 2014 20:37 KelsierSC wrote: I suppose you do sort of call eden scummy when you say "I agree with chyz" I don't think DRH had an unreasonable statement , on first glance you only have one real read. if you don't count meh as a read. I read DRH as super eager , try hard town. 9th post of his filter in this game. I'm convinced. | ||
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Things go wrong and Robik flips blue. Ritoky is on the chopping block, everybody scumreads him, but Kelsier tries, without success, to get Vivax lynched (see day3 or 4 votecount). The only people voting Vivax are Kelsier and SL. It's true. Kelsier is scum. | ||
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Which is... bad. He did that kind of blue fishing on Christmas Carol. He got Marley. I'm more convinced that KSC is scum than even LM and Marv. | ||
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But every red flag is risen regarding KSC. | ||
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Fellowship of the Ring. Can we vote KSC instead? | ||
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He was so unnecessarily interested in the cop but when the cop flipped he was uninterested in ritoky???? | ||
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