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On November 28 2014 20:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 20:34 justanothertownie wrote: Which is why you shouldn't townread HF. I disagree, for example on my catchup I posted something that HF posted that I agreed with his stance completely. (on GB) That is townie. Partly because he bothers having a stance on GB at all (  ), but actually because I agreed with it, especially the reasons he's not sure GB is mafia. It's basically what I was referring to when I said to Superbia that his 2nd case was good but my gut wasn't in it. Fine. If you are so sold on this then I will just ignore HF for today but if he is mafia then that is completely on you. Don't expect me to put up with his shit though.
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It is on him if he townreads and defends you when you are scum. Whatever. I will leave now. I will take a new look at this whole game later and try to be unbiased.
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On November 28 2014 22:27 marvellosity wrote: one of "the better players" is pretty much bound to be mafia, but the thing about being such a "better player" is that getting lynched on day 1 is a pretty tricky business.
I'm not a risk-taker on day 1. Don't worry. By deadline you won't want to lynch me anyways. You can safely focus on different targets for now and if I don't deliver later lynch me for it.
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On November 28 2014 22:41 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 22:29 marvellosity wrote:On November 28 2014 22:27 geript wrote: Like HF told me how to read Damdred but it doesn't work for me. His desire to move the thread forward in a meaningful way is how I've been reading him. And I don't really see that this game. I still think the Sn0 lynch is better. I've never seen Sn0 be this unhelpful and jerkfacey as town. Like he can be frustrating but I've always seen him at least try as town when he's spent the time to read. the thing is, the dude being blatantly jerkfacey/defiant is usually less likely to be mafia than the person who looks like they're trying to do something. Which once again makes me wonder why you professed to think I was scum, but whatever. I also am not even remotely appeased by what JAT just said. Hella easy to put forth content when under the gun. wat
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On November 28 2014 22:52 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 22:48 geript wrote:On November 28 2014 22:40 marvellosity wrote:On November 28 2014 22:37 geript wrote:On November 28 2014 22:29 marvellosity wrote:On November 28 2014 22:27 geript wrote: Like HF told me how to read Damdred but it doesn't work for me. His desire to move the thread forward in a meaningful way is how I've been reading him. And I don't really see that this game. I still think the Sn0 lynch is better. I've never seen Sn0 be this unhelpful and jerkfacey as town. Like he can be frustrating but I've always seen him at least try as town when he's spent the time to read. the thing is, the dude being blatantly jerkfacey/defiant is usually less likely to be mafia than the person who looks like they're trying to do something. I'd normally agree with you but this is like way out of bounds for him and I don't think the game I played with him as mafia is relevant anymore. Idk. Like it really bothers me that so many people are not-townreading him but no one really wants to lynch him. Except maybe like me and Palmer and Palmer is being palmer b it's way out of bounds for his mafia play also, no? Yes and no. Usually as mafia he's a more obstinant and oppositional iirc. what i'm saying is, you're saying my heuristic doesn't apply because this is way out of his town range, well unless you're gonna show me a game where it's in his mafia range, then meh. This feels like a day for shenannies Don't tell that to Wave he will flip his shit.
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On November 28 2014 23:04 WaveofShadow wrote: But also good to see you're contributing JAT. Solid play all around. I know. Thanks.
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On November 28 2014 23:05 marvellosity wrote: What I really mean by "it feels like a day for shenannies" is "i'm finding it hard to make any sort of firm decision right now, will have to wait till a raft of late posting and try decide then" Will you be around in a few hours?
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Ok, I am home now. No idea where to begin rereading. Any suggestions?
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On November 29 2014 00:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi logic applies to damdred. If he does say unsmart unrememberable stuff he is mafia. Damdred says unsmart stuff as town all the time.
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On November 29 2014 00:03 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 00:02 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, I am home now. No idea where to begin rereading. Any suggestions? GB first called out Elvis Damdred (Elvis) going for Sentinel Superbia going for GB all somehow connected. hf. k
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On November 29 2014 00:08 Damdred wrote: Screw you JAT no reason to be snarky at me at this point.
Wasn't snarky. It is a fact and if rayn reads you this way he is bound to be wrong at some point. Would love an explanation or example of this "own logic" btw.
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Ok, the difference between Elvis posting this game and his towngames in his newbie and campus mafia is astounding. It is not only the post length. In his towngames he gets down to business immediately and is being serious, humble and to the point. This game there is nothing but trolling/posting pictures/throwing votes around. Very possible that the slot is mafia. Will read damdred next.
GB calling that out is good but I will reserve judgement until I read his filter.
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On November 29 2014 00:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 00:20 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, the difference between Elvis posting this game and his towngames in his newbie and campus mafia is astounding. It is not only the post length. In his towngames he gets down to business immediately and is being serious, humble and to the point. This game there is nothing but trolling/posting pictures/throwing votes around. Very possible that the slot is mafia. Will read damdred next.
GB calling that out is good but I will reserve judgement until I read his filter. the question is then, would he play so blatantly differently as mafia? it's not even trying to play similarly. Yes. But you can waffle about it endlessly and come to no conclusion. The simplest explanation would be that he is just mafia.
Damdreds filter doesn't really make me strongly lean one way or the other. He is going after the easy targets (not necessarily a bad thing) except for his GB read and I don't know why but that one feels weird. He spends most of his time on that read and does not come to a real conclusion. I don't see why he even spends so many words talking about GB.
On November 28 2014 13:12 Damdred wrote:
I chose you sno and GB. GB has played oddly by his standards but has a few staples of his town play.
This sentence in particular. Half of his filter is explaining how GB is maybe scummy but then he writes this which to me reads like a townlean and would rather lynch sentinel. Another thing I notice is that he is pretty adamant about getting GB to explain his scumread on marv but I don't know what I should conclude from this. He probably wants GB to make himself look bad by doing this because marv is pretty towny.
Overall I would absolutely lynch this slot.
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On November 29 2014 00:42 Damdred wrote: Spent most time on GB because I'm most familiar with GB probably. I'm more null for you jat but you would rather lynch me? You are null leaning scum and Elvis was scummy -> I would lynch you.
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GB, I don't think marv had a scumread on rayn anymore when the whole pm incident happened. And you really have to differentiate between players that can post much as either alignment like HF, me or players that generally post way more as town than as mafia - which they obviously don't do willingly (as mafia) - like marv.
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On November 29 2014 00:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 00:52 justanothertownie wrote: GB, I don't think marv had a scumread on rayn anymore when the whole pm incident happened. And you really have to differentiate between players that can post much as either alignment like HF, me or players that generally post way more as town than as mafia - which they obviously don't do willingly (as mafia) - like marv. I don't remember the order of how things happened this game, but I'm going to step in if I think something is incorrect regardless. I can easily think someone is mafia but also think the arguments being used to attack them are false or bad I know that, thank you very much.
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On November 29 2014 00:59 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 00:52 justanothertownie wrote: GB, I don't think marv had a scumread on rayn anymore when the whole pm incident happened. And you really have to differentiate between players that can post much as either alignment like HF, me or players that generally post way more as town than as mafia - which they obviously don't do willingly (as mafia) - like marv. the sad thing is, i post relatively more than 95% of people do as mafia, i'm just a spambot as town :< I know that too.
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On November 29 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 00:59 justanothertownie wrote:On November 29 2014 00:59 marvellosity wrote:On November 29 2014 00:52 justanothertownie wrote: GB, I don't think marv had a scumread on rayn anymore when the whole pm incident happened. And you really have to differentiate between players that can post much as either alignment like HF, me or players that generally post way more as town than as mafia - which they obviously don't do willingly (as mafia) - like marv. the sad thing is, i post relatively more than 95% of people do as mafia, i'm just a spambot as town :< I know that too. I have a really nice bum I don't know that.
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