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Stay tuned for more simplistic insights with VE. | ||
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Too early. HF said something about not being around, otherwise I'd be suspicious of him not joining in the early phase. As it is I'm just kinda waiting to see what he says about it all. Players who have posted "reads" so far are doing so jokingly and for trolly reasons, I read most of it as townie but like I said, too early. GB is the only one that jumped out at me as actually aggressive, which I find pretty townie. Everyone else I'm reading as fake-aggressive, joke-aggressive or just posting to post. Not much going on atm. | ||
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On October 31 2014 12:36 Lord Tolkien wrote: last game I played with HF in that cancer mafia game, he bowed out D1 and fakeclaimed miller obvious scum He literally said he wasn't going to be around until later. If this is your actual read then whatever, but I'm not going to vote him until I see some content. | ||
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HF and Misder making posts that make me think they're thinking about the game critically. I think they town. Me HF Misder and GB town. JayB maybe trying to pocket me. He might just like my vernacular, but him saying #yoloswagtownmayor in response to a one-liner townread feels.....excessive I guess. | ||
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On November 01 2014 00:22 Oatsmaster wrote: I feel that Lord Tolkien is too ballsy to be scum. it looks like he doesnt really care if he dies. which is townie. Good read. | ||
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So who are we lynching eh? I vote for this guy. On October 31 2014 19:37 risk.nuke wrote: So have anyone heard of just saying, 'I want to analyze this player'. And then not immediately locking your analyze vote. The Cat feel super much like third party. And hi. ##Vote: risk.nuke I find that commenting on something like Bigglesworth being third party as his sole contribution before fucking off to be highly suspect. Like, he was following closely enough to mention the Cat but not enough to mention his reads on anyone? Like, I haven't done much, but people talking about me without looking at risk.nuke need to have their heads examined. | ||
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On November 01 2014 05:55 GlowingBear wrote: YOU'RENOTTOWNYOU'RENOTTOWNYOU'RENOTTOWNYOU'RENOTTOWN Yes I am. | ||
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I'm voting for risk.nuke because I believe him to be mafia. I've even explained why I think so. | ||
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On November 01 2014 07:38 GlowingBear wrote: He is not the only mafia in the game. Who else is? Well I just don't know yet. There are several people, risk included, who have barely even started to play the game. I'll give you more reads when I get them. You're certainly not going to be able to force me to give you reads I don't have. | ||
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On November 01 2014 08:06 GlowingBear wrote: OR I can give reads and keep the thread going on instead of just saying "lololol lurker is mafia because lol" That's not what I said at all. I said that his focus on the third party to the exlcusion of all else reads as scummy to me - third party is something mafia LOVE to talk about because like townies, they don't know who the third party is. As such, while "third-party hunting" they appear to be "scumhunting" to the untrained eye, and scum do that shit all the time. I haven't said "lololol" or any variation of such in any of my posts. Why are you twisting my words around? | ||
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On November 01 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote: Fair enough. I always put "lololol" while quoting posts I find careless. Anyway, you've made a point which I think it's fair. What bothers me isn't your inactivity, VE. I just believe that you have a tendency of being more insightful when you're town. I've given plenty of insights. The following are insights I've made in the thread: HF and Misder seem to be thinking critically about the game > town GB seems genuinely aggressive > town JayB seems to be buddying me > mafia? risk.nuke seems to be third-party hunting > mafia! That's like four more insights than like 3/4 of the players in the game! How about you define "insightful" for me if inactivity isn't your beef? | ||
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On November 01 2014 08:24 jaybrundage wrote: LOL I forgot about that. Its funny cause oats was giving me crap before it's like he doesn't even know me. XD He probably forgot. Oats is like #YOLOSWAG420BLAZEIT24/7 | ||
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On November 01 2014 08:29 ritoky wrote: VE, I think your original post accusing risk was not as directed as what you just recently said as what you are letting on. I think the emphasis was less so on how mafia find it easy to talk about 3rd party and such, and moreso directed toward him fucking off after that's the only thing he has done. I don't disagree with you, I just think that you and GB are probably two town fighting. JayB, that case on HF is bad.....as was your list of quote case earlier.... Also, we should probably get some consensus on the analysis soon. I was thinking about it a bit: 1) the cat sounds like foolishness. 2) still don't know if the cat does what it says 3) does the cat just make a case on someone based on the content in the thread or does it get additional information? I think in 1 of our 2 cycles we might want to potentially use it on a complete lurker to see if the cat get's additional information outside of posts. Because if it doesn't....it doesn't exactly seem extremely useful outside of just being another person with an unknown objective. The third party stuff was implied - I didn't think I had to elucidate that "third-party hunting" is a scumtell, so I didn't. The fact that he "fucked off" afterward was simply to enforce that he spoke of nothing else BUT the third party. GB clearly didn't realize what I was talking about, so I explained it further. For what it's worth, I agree with your assessment that GB is likely town. | ||
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On November 01 2014 08:30 jaybrundage wrote: I thought lying and shit flinging are chiefly mafia traits. GB if you have a town read on HF can you tell me why? He did some poke at misder but misder replied and that was it. Is there anything else that would make you think HF is town? Several of HF's posts show that he's not just reading the thread and posting in response to it, that he's actually thinking and coming to conclusions and then asking questions based on those conclusions. That's chiefly a town-trait. I could find them but I'm A) lazy and B) aware that you ALSO have a filter button on these subforums. ![]() | ||
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I have faith that he'll do something. I won't say I have faith that it will be something useful or productive. | ||
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That makes sense, what Misder said. Honestly curiosity is more of a driving factor than any kind of desire for useful information from the Cat. It intrigues me, and JayBrundage makes a fine analysis. | ||
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Anyone else getting that same vibe? | ||
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On November 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote: well damd is aldor then i dunno how obvious he wants to be but i think that probably takes him off the table... maybe On November 02 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Ehhhh....I think whoever is Aldor Peacekeeper is mafia. Making the lynch into a majority lynch speaks of someone trying to save whoever was up for lynch when it was plurality. :/ Anyone else getting that same vibe? Thoughts HF? | ||
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On November 02 2014 03:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Do you think that only scum gets that role? No that's not what I'm saying at all - I don't think what "cards" people are points to alignment at all. I think his USE of the power feels scummy as hell. | ||
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On November 02 2014 03:31 GlowingBear wrote: Funny that you can to the thread just to say that. Seems opportunistic to me. Also, huge coincidence that thing happening and you coming in here, right? What are you saying? Do you think I'm mafia? | ||
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Well you're still wrong. LMAO | ||
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On November 02 2014 03:45 Holyflare wrote: i mean if he HAD these notes then why the fuck would he need to increase the day time because he's afraid of being lycnhed in 9 hours????? all he has to do is copy and paste them seeing as that's the reason people are lynching him for ^^ that's the best reason why he's scummy Is is the best post in the thread. He claims his reasoning is that he "won't have time to provide the content needed to disuade a lynch" or whatever, and yet he could simply copy/paste his notes to provide all the content needed to at least get people talking. He doesn't have to extend the day and run the risk of no lynch today, but he does. IT's scummy as sin. | ||
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On November 02 2014 04:04 GlowingBear wrote: ^ this. I'm killing damdred. See you guys in 25 hours. I'm really tired of you scumreading me while agreeing with posts I make. I may kill you in the night. That is all. | ||
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On November 02 2014 04:24 jaybrundage wrote: This is the worst post in the thread. Plz grow up. Jay give me your thoughts on Damdred. His towncase on you, his notes debacle, his use of his power and his claim. | ||
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On November 02 2014 04:53 jaybrundage wrote: @Dramdred If I read the OP correctly "Each character role will have a predetermined set of spells and abilities that are available for their use. These spells may be revealed at the start of the game or become available at certain points in the game." Everyone will be a blue/have some type of ability. Just cause you used your power and claimed, IT does NOT exempt you from being mafia. So stop mentioning it like it is a good defense. @VE: In regards to Dramdred, Bad Town or Scum. The Town case felt pretty heavy-handed. And I'm pretty sure he cleaned up his notes before posting, not that it actually matters. The use of the power seems normal. As scum or town he felt the thread sentiment going towards his lynch and felt he more time would be helpful so he could insure he wouldn't get lynched. The claim seems pretty clear cut. No clue what the issue is here. Also I feel like your hung up on that fact that it changes to a majority lynch. I don't see the big deal. Maybe its cause most of the games I have played have been Majority lynch. But your really over reacting to the switch in voting. Why they hell would the town collectively let a No-Lynch happen? Any town worth its salt wouldn't let that shit happen. We get more time to discuss which is good for town. Although I was looking forward to lynching someone tonite but we have more time to type and we should try to use wisely. [Aside]: And by wisely I mean discuss and try to figure things out and not get tunnel visioned and refuse to consider alternate possibilities /Aside] I think Dramdred's case will be an important factor. Looking forward to it. I'm not hung up on that fact, it's just a fact that I'm considering. Like, it's not a huge deal, but it's a deal. We didn't have to worry about a no-lynch before and now we do. That's a fact. And no-lynches happen all the time. I don't care how stupid you say it is or how ridiculous you think the notion is, it happens ALL the time. I think Damdred is scummy, but concede that his notes make him look nominally better. I'm willing to look elsewhere for today. ##Unvote | ||
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BH I want to know who you really think is scum before the end of the day. No one is buying your GB lynch. | ||
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Meeeehhhhhhh.....he vaguely agrees with HF's assertion that OWS is playing with "too much information", but never really says he's a scumread. Only that he'd lynch him to avoid a no-lynch which really isn't saying anything at all. BH I want your actual scumreads before the end of the day or I'm going to lynch you. | ||
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On November 03 2014 01:25 Holyflare wrote: How can you say he's absolutely town but then want to lynch him if he doesn't do something lol YOU THINK I WON'T LYNCH A TOWN? YOU THINK I WON'T LYNCH A TOWN BISH? | ||
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On November 03 2014 05:05 Seuss wrote: Hello again. The timing of Damdred's vote-extension is scummy as hell. Almost immediately after GlowingBear began asserting that he'd caught Damdred in a lie, Damdred breadcrumbed his role and shortly thereafter that Follow the Rules happened. This play screams, "Shit I've been caught, better use my power to save myself." I'd expect a Town player to expend far more effort trying to preserve their useful power than just blow it on themselves the moment they get in trouble. On that note I'm suspicious of LordTolkien because of his defense of Damdred. I think there's a pretty good that he's scum if Damdred is. At best LordTolkien is oblivious to the scrutiny Damdred was already under, and at worst he's trying to reframe events to make Damdred's desperate act of self-preservation seem Towny. I'm a little suspicious of Obiwan as well but it would be pretty horrible play for two scum to come out with the same bad/oblivious "what's the scum motivation" defense when there's such an obvious scum motivation. This is a good point about Damdred that was also brought up by BH. Ugh..I could still lynch Damdred. ![]() Can we also lynch risk.nuke? ##DoubleLynch: Activate | ||
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On November 03 2014 05:05 Seuss wrote: Hello again. The timing of Damdred's vote-extension is scummy as hell. Almost immediately after GlowingBear began asserting that he'd caught Damdred in a lie, Damdred breadcrumbed his role and shortly thereafter that Follow the Rules happened. This play screams, "Shit I've been caught, better use my power to save myself." I'd expect a Town player to expend far more effort trying to preserve their useful power than just blow it on themselves the moment they get in trouble. On that note I'm suspicious of LordTolkien because of his defense of Damdred. I think there's a pretty good that he's scum if Damdred is. At best LordTolkien is oblivious to the scrutiny Damdred was already under, and at worst he's trying to reframe events to make Damdred's desperate act of self-preservation seem Towny. I'm a little suspicious of Obiwan as well but it would be pretty horrible play for two scum to come out with the same bad/oblivious "what's the scum motivation" defense when there's such an obvious scum motivation. To expand on the bolded point, he referred to himself as a "town blue role" after claiming as if we're losing something lynching him. He has now already USED his power, so he's literally just leveraging the power to remove votes from himself, not thinking of the power in terms of how it can find scum. It's just an overall bad claim. | ||
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On November 03 2014 05:39 risk.nuke wrote: If Viscera actually just activated a double lynch he's going to flip red. I didn't, but it's literally hilarious that you popped in to say that. LMAO. | ||
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On November 03 2014 05:39 risk.nuke wrote: If Viscera actually just activated a double lynch he's going to flip red. Like seriously though, what about giving town an extra lynch is anti-town? I honestly have no idea where this comes from! | ||
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I thought this was clear enough, but the Double-Lynch was NOT REAL. I phrased it like that to get reactions, and risk.nuke reacted poorly. I would appreciate either a risk.nuke lynch or a Damdred lynch. | ||
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Like feel free to change my mind risk. Give us something aside from defensively posting in response to being called out in the thread. | ||
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On November 03 2014 08:01 Holyflare wrote: He said he can't play till next cycle so why not lynch the guy that could and has been completely awful? (lt) Why not Damdred? I don't care if you liked his notes, I don't think a townie does what he does with his power. | ||
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On November 03 2014 08:04 risk.nuke wrote: jrkirby, I came out because I saw something worth commenting on and had time to do it. And I didn't say the ability was scummy, I said the timing and way he used it was scummy because it was being used so sub-optimally. Viscera, Following the thread is so I'd be aware if anything big happens, It's basically skimming the thread. I haven't had time to look for mafia. I didn't see any danger in myself getting lynched today because it is stupid to lynch someone day1 when he's promised to be active day2. Like that is the optimal mafia agenda. Push the innocent guy as a lurker before he gets a chance to play. If what you say is true, that I'm scum just trying to get away with doing nothing it will be evident day2 and you can lynch me then. I don't understand how you can go like, no, it so SOOOO important to kill me today instead of after I've had a chance to post reads. Your post feel like such bullshit. This defense feels genuine. What do you think of Damdred risk? | ||
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On November 03 2014 08:04 risk.nuke wrote: jrkirby, I came out because I saw something worth commenting on and had time to do it. And I didn't say the ability was scummy, I said the timing and way he used it was scummy because it was being used so sub-optimally. Viscera, Following the thread is so I'd be aware if anything big happens, It's basically skimming the thread. I haven't had time to look for mafia. I didn't see any danger in myself getting lynched today because it is stupid to lynch someone day1 when he's promised to be active day2. Like that is the optimal mafia agenda. Push the innocent guy as a lurker before he gets a chance to play. If what you say is true, that I'm scum just trying to get away with doing nothing it will be evident day2 and you can lynch me then. I don't understand how you can go like, no, it so SOOOO important to kill me today instead of after I've had a chance to post reads. Your post feel like such bullshit. So if you didn't see any danger of getting lynched today, then why are you "skimming" instead of reading the thread with your time trying to find mafia? That's the thing, you're more interested in staying alive than finding mafia, which is my point. | ||
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Like my early town circle must be good as shit because that's what ultimately caused me to vote for LT in the first place. Anyone trying to switch off LT looks like utter shit right now. | ||
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That was a good hit guys. Feel good about yourselves. | ||
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On November 03 2014 12:15 Misder wrote: No one followed me onto risk.nuke which suspects that risk is also mafia. I've been all about a risk.nuke lynch. But we were closer to an LT lynch and I trusted HF's certainty on LT, plus I have JayB as town and you. What do you think about all those names? | ||
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On November 03 2014 13:05 Alakaslam wrote: We still lynch risk tomorrow ^ | ||
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On November 03 2014 13:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If you have an information role, check VE. If you're a vig, consider shooting him maybe. I don't like his filter at all. You're completely talking out of your ass. I've been very clear about my thoughts on players. Stop trying to direct shots at me are you fucking scum OWS??!?! | ||
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On November 03 2014 13:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote: So what kind of drugs do you use? Btw, if we have a third party, VE might be it. Looking back in his filter, he kind of hopped onto the LT bandwagon out of the blue based on the fact that his townreads were on it after halfheartedly pushing the risk wagon. Actually, I wouldn't even call it that. It was more like questioning people about him and then jumping on a wagon for nondescript, generic reasons. It looked really apathetic. And what the fuck is this shit? Are you even kidding me right now? Is this some kind of a sick joke? | ||
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Well like I said earlier, people who wanted to get off LT are immediately suspicious based solely on the fact that LT flipped mafia. So that shines a light on OWS and Oats because they ended up off the wagon, and includes anyone who was trying to leave the wagon subtly come shenanigan time. I wasn't here and will have to look at that. Aside from that your list includes my townreads HF and GB and Slam, myself and you who I'm leaning town on. | ||
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2) Lord Tolkien as Valeera Sanguinar, lynched day one 3) Misder 4) ritoky 5) risk.nuke 6) jrkirby 7) Seuss 8) VisceraEyes 9) GlowingBear 10) Oatsmaster 11) Alakaslam 12) Blazinghand 13) Damdred 14) liancourt 15) Circumstance 16) Holyflare 17) jaybrundage Like this is where I'm currently sitting with the game. I'm going to reread overnight and see if anything changes going into tomorrow, but I feel pretty good about this game right now so we'll just see. | ||
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On November 03 2014 15:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You're aware that both Oats and myself attempted to vote LT and had our votes redirected elsewhere by something/someone, right? no missed that. | ||
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On November 03 2014 16:05 jaybrundage wrote: VE I know you posted him as null in your list. Anything to add beyond that? He's on my list man. I'm going to bed now but he's on my short list of people to filter tomorrow including Oats and Suess. | ||
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On November 04 2014 03:13 Blazinghand wrote: I'll put the finishing touches on my GB case before end of night since although I'm not the best shot for scum to make, they might wifom themselves into shooting me because of medic saves or whatever. I want to get this out there in case I die. Any requests for reads or cases? BH might be mafia for not thinking he's the best shot mafia could make. Town BH always thinks he's the best shot for scum to make. Always. | ||
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##Vote: Damdred | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:06 Holyflare wrote: If it couldn't be more obvious i am Tirion Well I don't like you asking people to forfeit their right to vote without you outright claiming Tirion. It feels underhanded. | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote: So Ve is still scum. Thanks for ignoring me when I called him out. Still not scum, so people ignoring you are pro-town. | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:05 jaybrundage wrote: YO VE STOP MAKING PORK CHOPS AND GIMME A CASE SON. no but srsly tho. you dont seem invested in this game. whats up bra? Yo, instead of claiming his power he made the lynch into majority making it possible to no-lynch. His response to pressure all game has been poor. I'm just reading him as mafia. I'm not super invested, but I'm playing. I've got a super-huge (presumably awesome) towncircle and I'm lynching outside of it. | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:08 Holyflare wrote: Well here i am claiming it outright....? But you've been doing it before now, encouraging people to forfeit their right to vote, without telling them that they're giving their votes to you (presumably). I'm just saying, it felt underhanded and I didn't like it. So the Light can suck a D. | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:10 Holyflare wrote: The more votes i gather the more powerful of an ability i get. It doesn't allude to more than that and you should all be sheeping my vote at the end of the day regardless. | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:14 jaybrundage wrote: VE now a proud sponsor of Sunny D Light This joke was incredibly corny. | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:18 Holyflare wrote: Well that's too bad because I'm not going to let you. You're not going to do anything without more people blindly giving you their votes friend. | ||
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I guess you're claiming that you did it via your role to yourself? Okay, that's not alignment indicative for you then I guess. | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Welcome to my world of every single second of this game. I'm dead anyway so who gives a fuck. I was town. I'll probably show up a couple more times but everyone is okay calling me shit and useless and killing me over posting during work hours. Fucking awful. I hate all of you. I haven't called you mafia at all all game. And as far as I know, not many people have even considered it. Basically you're just freaking out about being on the losing end of THIS vote based on thread sentiment, which is fine, but it's a really POOR reaction so you can't blame people for thinking you're mafia for it. The negativity is really uncalled for man. | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: have you been reading whats been going on or no Uh.....yeah. | ||
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On November 04 2014 14:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I love how people say they're open to lynching jb over me. He's so obviously town and I'm getting tunneled. Are you not so obviously town also to yourself? Like, why do you say he's obviously town? | ||
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On November 04 2014 14:25 Holyflare wrote: It's really really really weird that you are even questioning my alignment so randomly instead of everyone else in the thread like this when in your mind I've only lynched mafia and now put you onto someone who you also think is mafia. Just staaahp. | ||
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On November 04 2014 14:29 Holyflare wrote: You said his starting posts were really weird/scummy iirc I said it looked like he might be buddying me. | ||
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On November 04 2014 14:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I remember marking him as town really early. I wanted to compare my read to whatever the cat said to see what alignment the cat was when it analyzed him. I didn't write it down though, so I can't remember all of it. I think it had a lot to do with holding people accountable for stuff and asking really good questions on day 1. So if you're town and you believe that Jay is town then FROM YOUR perspective then you're both town. What do you think this means about the Jaraxas role or whatever that did this to you? Mafia or town aligned? | ||
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On November 04 2014 14:50 Holyflare wrote: You literally said the buddying made him likely mafia. It's a quote. Now you are saying it makes him town??? Here's how it went. JayB Buddies VE>VE mentions Buddying>VE implies Buddying=mafia>JayB reacts>VE reads JayB town>VE tells cat to Analyze JayB That's the order of events. I told the cat to analyze JayB AFTER I'd townread him because I wanted his analysis on the situation and I wanted to see how it compared with mine. The cat didn't deliver. Whatever. I still read JayB town. | ||
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On November 03 2014 15:25 VisceraEyes wrote: 1) ObiWanShinobi 2) Lord Tolkien as Valeera Sanguinar, lynched day one 3) Misder 4) ritoky 5) risk.nuke 6) jrkirby 7) Seuss 8) VisceraEyes 9) GlowingBear 10) Oatsmaster 11) Alakaslam 12) Blazinghand 13) Damdred 14) liancourt 15) Circumstance 16) Holyflare 17) jaybrundage Like this is where I'm currently sitting with the game. I'm going to reread overnight and see if anything changes going into tomorrow, but I feel pretty good about this game right now so we'll just see. Like this is from the Night, SINCE all that when I've clearly townread jaybrundage. I don't know why this is all coming as some kind of huge shock to you HF, which is why this is all really disconcerting to me. | ||
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On November 04 2014 14:59 Holyflare wrote: This is what he's done today. Kirbys conspiracy theory is actually agreeing with what i said to my partner last night so super paranoid mode atm Like I said - I'm under the impression that the game might just be as easy as lynching outside my towncircle. Is your partner outside my towncircle? Because I'm not gonna lie, that would be just fantastic. | ||
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On November 04 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote: I'm not revealing anything about him or her or it Yeah that's fair. | ||
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On November 04 2014 15:03 Holyflare wrote: If the person comes under lynch threat I'll speak up obvobv So tell me about BH. You think he's suspicious still? | ||
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I'm going to bed guys. | ||
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On November 04 2014 15:36 jrkirby wrote: Right, but if the mafia make really scummy votes, then it'll be pretty obvious, right? Well, my guess is that the mafia will just be voting with everyone else and it will be hard to tell them apart. | ||
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On November 04 2014 15:39 ritoky wrote: I would like the details of said power that you did not use. I find it odd that VE was advocating judging roles based on their powers, not who they are in the lore. We have 2 people, we have to decide 1 of which dies and he didn't ask further into the details of either of their roles. I'm not advocating judging anyone's alignment based on their roles. | ||
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On October 31 2014 12:07 Circumstance wrote: If ritoky's picture of GB (which I presume stands for GlowingBear) is accurate, then being Jewish, I kinda have to be suspicious of him. This joke made me shift in my seat. Even reading it makes me uncomfortable, so I can only imagine now Circ must have felt while writing it. Just awful. On November 01 2014 09:42 Circumstance wrote: So, we have GB as a call for the D1 backup, and some people seem to be jumping onboard for risk.nuke. I've read the case for lynching risk.nuke, and I'm not yet completely sold. I don't have a solid read on him yet, so can anyone give me a reason we should lynch someone else INSTEAD of risk.nuke? This is really REALLY weird. "There's a case on risk.nuke which doesn't COMPLETELY sway me, but can someone sway me in the OTHER direction please?" Just the way this is phrased seems really odd - is he suspicious of risk.nuke or not? Does he want people to talk to him about risk.nuke or is he deflecting away from risk.nuke? On November 01 2014 10:47 Circumstance wrote: Do you want me to explain my schedule to you? I will if you want. As for GB's question, my current reads aren't strong enough to lay out on the table right now, and frankly, I don't know how much it matters at this stage. We've got some clear targets that are slowly beginning to get multiple votes placed on them. If we don't consolidate, we run the risk of a no-lynch, which doesn't benefit anyone. I don't WANT to lynch you right now, GB, because I'm not a fan of RNG and you keep discussions going. But before I place my vote on risk.nuke, I want to hear the argument against it, assuming there is one, to see if it holds water. Okay so....he doesn't like it because it's unopposed? How does he know anyone WILL be against it? I don't know, Circ spends an awful lot of time explaining not being on the risk.nuke wagon. Ehhhhh....I'd lynch. Maybe not today with like, risk.nuke and ObiWan still running around, but I'd vote for him tomorrow based on what's in the thread right now. | ||
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On November 05 2014 03:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Hi, I'm Ve. I'm going to push the guy who abandoned the counter wagon to Lt and the only other possible counter wagon to scum. Skillshot. Why are you talking shit? You said you thought I was mafia earlier, where did that go? "Skillshot" implies that you think I'm town fucking up. | ||
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On November 01 2014 08:16 jaybrundage wrote: Again your saying things things that are strictly untrue. I first started posting to gb about how he called out someone's first post as not saying anything and if they didn't wanna joke they shouldn't post and that didn't make sense to me. So no I was not "only" arguing about policy. Second off you never called him mafia See this WHOLE POST you never once called him mafia. In fact I voted in the thread for LT BEFORE you did!! Are you being intentionally ironic. I don't get how you can type this shit and act like your in the right. What my post says is that your saying things in your posts that are strictly untrue and your shit flinging at me. And you continue to say things that aren't true and shit fling. Alakaslam said this is normal for you as both alignments which is baffling to me. Can anyone who has played with HF comment on this stuff. As it stands I wouldn't mind if he is out day 1 lynch. ...arguing with HF about who was first on LT before he flipped mafia. But aside from that I'm not really feeling much scum in jaybrundage' posts. Most of it is standardish jaybrundage stuff, he seems comfortable enough when he's posting. Most of HF's problem seemed to stem from Jay jumping on HF for his early stuff this cycle. HF correct me if I'm wrong, I seem to recall you saying jay almost made your list yesterday. Meeehhh....I still think jay town I guess. Like, this TMI thing is one thing, but it's not really damning enough to me, they were arguing over a bunch of little things and I can see town arguing over LT. | ||
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Guys how can we get a good lynch if we don't talk about it guys?!?! GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUYYYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! | ||
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Hi, I'm sorry, this was my fucking lynch? Yeah this was my fucking lynch. You wanted to lynch someone else and I was all "What about risk nuke?" and you're all "Yeeeeah booooyyyy" So no, it's actually not a great point. If you think it's a great point you'r emafia. Was it a great point? | ||
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On November 06 2014 02:47 Holyflare wrote: It is actually a great point because as ritoky said it's not a done deal that this guy is mafia and with the lack of talking he may well just not be mafia at all so you've just defaulted to the lurker that may be town or may be mafia and disregarded the rest of the game and when someone is pushing hard for damd who you've wanted to lynch all the night/day you just haven't discussed him at all. You don't seem interested in actually participating further and I've actually dicussed this with multiple people and they feel the same way. Well this is actually false. Motherfucker I'm the one who told you to go look at Circumstance in the first place remember? And I WANTED to lynch Damdred today but you're hard defending him HF. Like, what is there to fucking talk about until someone flips? I think risk.nuke is mafia based on his play - I was under the impression taht you thought so too. If you're actually claiming to be suspicious of me then you can fucking die in the night HF. | ||
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On November 06 2014 03:18 Alakaslam wrote: I will be all the shit the hurricane flings around Like I'm not crazy right? Holyflare just literally tried to paint me in a suspicious light for trying to compromise on my lynch choice and for not discussing things when I've been in here discussing things, right? | ||
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On November 06 2014 03:22 Alakaslam wrote: Wait do you want to switch to Holyflare? I think he is just derping, I don't think he is scum. It depends on his responses. I honestly think that HF doesn't think I'm mafia for any reason if he's town here, if for no other reason than me compromising on my lynch based on HIS townread. Like, he says I'm not interested in discussing Damdred but that's patently false, I came into today wanting to LYNCH Damdred and I was shut the fuck down by someone, who was it, OH YEAH HOLYFLARE. It's suspicious as hell - enough to where I almost want his partner to out to confirm his alignment. ALMOST. It might not be to that point yet, but that was some shady shit. | ||
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I'm still fine with a Damdred lynch honestly, but do you really think risk.nuke is town now? Based on what? Me being on his wagon? I WAS ONLY ON THE WAGON BECAUSE YOU PUT ME OFF A DAMDRED WAGON!!! | ||
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Like am I reading this right? Because if I am you're fucking mafia and I don't care who comes out of the woodwork to "confirm" you. | ||
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On November 06 2014 03:43 Holyflare wrote: Oh noes i was away having sex! I said like "oh i think damd is town we'll lynch who i want today" and apparently that's enough to stop you talking about him entirely. I don't care what your opinion of your own play is when I've been masoned twice and both people agree you are seemingly disinterested and don't care about things. Now seuss who is actually thinking about things says the same thing but the only person you're switching on is me for voicing a quite valid suspicion. Like the stuff you talked about risk was "oh lets compromise and lynch risk" and i just said "ok" it's not discussion it's not anything. Don't make it like you've been doing a shit tonne of scum hunting when the 2 people you want to lynch right now are the afkers who can't defend themselves and the real scum read of damdred is just pissed off somewhere into oblivion with obi. There's nothing "quite valid" about your suspicion. I've been perfectly willing to talk to anyone about anything this game. I've given my reads, and I've explained them all. If you have something specific about my play you'd like to attack, feel free to try. | ||
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Like, but it doesn't matter now because we're a few hours from lynch and we've got the lynch on risk.nuke. Unless you think risk.nuke is town for some reason, which I'd be perfectly willing to hear, then at this moment I prefer to stay the course on risk.nuke. Otherwise, I could feasibly switch onto Damdred - you just gotta explain why you think risk.nuke is town and convince me of the same. | ||
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On November 06 2014 04:22 Holyflare wrote: the easiest thing in the world to do is push lurker lynches like they're mafia as mafia, don't chalk it up to actively participating when all you have to say is "oh he's here and not doing anything" THIS IS THE SUM/WHOLE OF YOUR PUSH ON RISK.NUKE!!! THIS IS ALL YOU'VE EVER SAID ABOUT RISK.NUKE AT ALL HOLYFLARE! I HAVE ACTUAL REASON FOR SCUMREADING RISK.NUKE AND ALL YOU'VE EVER SAID IS "Lol he said he'd be here Sunday but he's not shrug" LIKE WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS EVEN?!?! | ||
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Out your partner Holyflare, so we know who else to lynch. | ||
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On November 06 2014 04:39 Seuss wrote: I have no problem with you asking HolyFlare a question. I have severe problems with you saying you weren't around when you were, and using HolyFlare as an excuse for ignoring your own top scum read. HolyFlare is not the be all and end all of the game, why is his disagreement enough to dissuade you from even trying? It's not about Holyflare, it's about the idiot townies who are blindly sheeping him. I don't think Holyflare is really even all THAT good at the game, just really good at posting a lot and confidently. Add to that the fact that he just lynched mafia, and opposing his lynch is just bad play no matter WHAT you think my alignment is. I'm not ignoring Damdred, but I'm not going to try and push a Damdred lynch at a time when someone I'm trying to work with amicably is stating in very clear terms that he's townreading the guy. Like, this isn't fucking hard. | ||
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On November 06 2014 04:40 Holyflare wrote: Like you're saying "omg you're scum cz your only reason for pushing risk is afking like you just said hur dur" but you aren't actually using anything i'm saying in the context i'm saying it in. You have ONLY ONLY ONLY pushed the lurkers. I've pushed obi, jay, now you, risk/circ, questioned a lot in mason chats. I'm realising that this wagon is scummy as fuck because nobody is talking about anything other than risk being afk and the whole day is a stalemate about it while he continues to just push oats (who isnt actually that awful of a target for risk to talk about) and afk But that's not even true! He's been doing scummy shit all game - like appearing from the ether when he's mentioned and shit. ITS ALL DOCUMENTED IN THE THREAD! HES NOT JUST AFK, HE IS SCUMMILY AFK! | ||
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On November 06 2014 04:43 VisceraEyes wrote: It's not about Holyflare, it's about the idiot townies who are blindly sheeping him. I don't think Holyflare is really even all THAT good at the game, just really good at posting a lot and confidently. Add to that the fact that he just lynched mafia, and opposing his lynch is just bad play no matter WHAT you think my alignment is. I'm not ignoring Damdred, but I'm not going to try and push a Damdred lynch at a time when someone I'm trying to work with amicably is stating in very clear terms that he's townreading the guy. Like, this isn't fucking hard. | ||
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On November 06 2014 04:49 Damdred wrote: VE if you are so sure that hf is scum why say that shouldn't you be pushing people to lynch the more dangerous hf? I'm not sure HF is scum, I'm sure that he's being really really bad at the game right now. I SUSPECT that he's scum, but frankly it's based on him scumreading me and that's never a good reason. | ||
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On November 06 2014 04:51 Seuss wrote: jaybrundage didn't give a damn what the "sheep" thought. Why should you? Why are you so concerned about the consequences of opposing the guy who lynched mafia? Why are you suddenly so unconcerned that you're going all-in callling him scum? Because it's all coming to a head now, when the lynch is on the line. That stinks of mafia pushing an agenda. Like, if you think I'm mafia then you've got to come up with some reasons because the ones you're providing now A) don't make me mafia and B) are easily explained. I care because I care about getting a good lynch in. AT the time I was pretty sure HF was town right? And if HF is town and I'm town then I have to be concerned about not just our votes but the votes of everyone else in town. And if HF is against a Damdred lynch, then me pushing a Damdred lynch A) doesn't get me what I want and B) makes me look bad (because I'm opposing someone who just lynched scum) so why would I do that regardless of alignment? If I'm mafia then I don't want to draw attention to myself and if I'm town then I want to make a lynch happen. It doesn't say ANYTHING about my alignment, what you're spewing right now, and I've explained it from my (townie) perspective. You're free to believe or disbelieve that, but to get me lynched you're going to have to either convince everyone else or bring some other more convincing points to bear. | ||
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On November 03 2014 05:40 VisceraEyes wrote: I didn't, but it's literally hilarious that you popped in to say that. LMAO. On November 03 2014 05:50 risk.nuke wrote: How is it hilarious. I've already told you that I am following the thread. I didn't really see a point to popping up a couple of times to say I'm to busy to do much today. The abillity was pro town. The way you used it was so not. On November 03 2014 06:00 Alakaslam wrote: And it is hilarious ##votes risknike This is what I'm referring to. Slam was present one of the times I caught risk popping into the thread to toss shade on anyone mentioning him. | ||
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I'm Gelbin Mekkatorque, I invented a homing chicken on D1 and gave it to Misder. No idea what it does. I invented a Poultryizer D2 and gave it to HF, I have an idea of what it does. Nothing anti-town. Good luck fuckers. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:07 Damdred wrote: My god VE just answer us for gods sake, you went on a rampage and then completely went from HF IS SCUM GIVE US PARTNER to, i'm not sure hes mafia. So talk to us and help us sort through this, calm down if you have to step away you can. Yes because a flip in mindset like that comes from mafia ALL the time. You know, mafia who are concerned about appearing consistent and shit. Fuck you Damdred. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:09 Damdred wrote: No theres still time for VE to calm down come back and really help us figure out the lynch. You can say all the mean words in the world to me VE but I still want you to play and calm down. I've been doing that. All. Game. I've been trying to figure out good lynches. All. Game. Like, I'm JUST NOW saying fuck this and going away. JUST NOW! I haven't done that before now, I never "gave up" trying to find a good lynch when I voted risk.nuke as evidence by my filtering and subsequently scumreading Circ. I DID say that I wanted to lynch risk first, but from my perspective I've had reason to believe he's mafia since DAY FUCKING ONE! Anyone saying I only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker is a fucking LIAR or is FUCKING WRONG. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:11 Holyflare wrote: look i can back off of you but i'm just questioning inconsistencies from what you are writing in the thread to what you are now saying your thought process is, it's not omg how can he think i'm mafia fuk u scum is it? Yes, you're literally just paraphrasing posts I make now as if I were scum the way you do when you're certain someone is scum. Fuck you Holyflare, you don't get to back off it now. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote: I'm not saying you only wanted to push risk because he's a lurker at all, I believe there is actually a good reason to scum read him for promises broken and unable to give reads in the thread which has already been discussed before. But I don't think he was your top scum read going into the day and pointed out a couple things in your post, I just want you to calm down come back and decide if risk shoudl be the lynch today or if we should look somewhere else, and if we should send jay or obi off today. risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:23 ritoky wrote: So do you think Obi is scum then? Or is it solely because of your read on jay? It's based solely on my townread of Jay. Obi MIGHT be mafia - HF did the whole catching him in a lie thing which he still denies, it still looks bad to me. Also there was the bit about him throwing shade on me during N1 for no reason, only to back completely off when the pressure was on him D2. Obi is the better bet for mafia, so that's where my vote is. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:28 ritoky wrote: What about the nature of the power itself. Challenging someone to a 1v1 and giving an extra lynch. Do you think that is clearly town sided power, mafia sided power, or could be both? Same with Obi's claimed D1 power, which was +2 votes or -3 votes (As malfurion)? Town/maf/neither? Could be both imo. Like it's balanced to go either way it looks like - giving town an extra lynch feels town-favored, but having to include one's self could be mafia flavored as well. And Obi's power feels incomplete. So Obi would have us believe that Malfurion Stormrage has a vote manipulation power and one other power he's received today that is useless? It just doesn't seem right...like, I don't even know what to think about his power because I still feel like I don't know anything about it. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:33 risk.nuke wrote: That is so stupid on both counts. First of all I'm town, wanting me lynched is ridiculous but you're in complete denial. Despite hardly even having been active day2 you're yelling NUH-UH I'm going to lynch the shit out of nuke today, I don't even care about other people, this is final and anyone disagreeing with me is scum. This is you right now Viscera. If you're town which I think you are, calm fucking down and stop being an idiot. Secondly, out of obi and jay, jay is both the less helpful player and the more suspicious looking one. That's why he should be lynched. I've said it before and I'll say it now again. If you feel like you're a poor lynch then stop hanging out and watching the game and start participating in the game. Part of that is doing more than just posting defensively against anyone who speaks up against you. Give reads on other players, give your opinion on the gamestate. You've said you think I'm town, so if you're town then who are the mafia on your wagon? Are there mafia on your wagon? Who are the mafia pushing if not you? | ||
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So Holy looks good for wanting off risk.nuke when he did I guess. Whatever, I'll just reread and see what's up. | ||
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On November 07 2014 01:41 Holyflare wrote: Why would ypu be shot and why would you be cleared?? I don't know, I'm a damn inventor. That's scary. And I figured someone's gotta check me eventually right? shrug The item I'm handing out tonight is a roleblock NULLFIER! | ||
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On November 07 2014 01:48 Alakaslam wrote: i see you You like what you see? | ||
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Have a RB Nullifier breh as a consolation prize? | ||
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I'm not scum. Try again friend. | ||
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On November 07 2014 02:17 Alakaslam wrote: What is next ppl Tomorrow, we HUNT!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Like....this is a weird one because to get the most out of it we'd have to have like a bunch of action claims to see whose is best for town today but like...that's a lot of info flying around for the mafia. I don't know, what do you guys think? I should clarify that I'm not inventing these things myself - the inventions are basically like my abilities, but I can't use them myself I have to pass them off. I'm not like a normal inventor where I can just invent whatever I want. I'd have been inventing cop checks or list checks or something OP like that if I were. | ||
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On November 07 2014 11:00 Holyflare wrote: Ok, I'm SUPER wary of ve because his invention is a total pile of poop. I don't know what actions mafia could have but this chicken he gave me ROLEBLOCKS everyone that visits me but it DOESN'T protect me from factional kp so all thanks to ve confirmed town could actually be dying tonight. Hence, by no stretch of the imagination is VE the inventor automatically town. Oats claimed MARTYR to me in mason chat, martyr/name tracker/mason/something he wouldn't tell me but when I said he should martyr someone looking towny after he has claimed in the mason chat that he is bored and doesn't really do anything he said flat out that he wouldn't martyr anyone because he does not want to die. <---- this screams of 3p to me imo Take it up with the mod - I'm not inventing this stuff myself. I realize that looking back it looks like I was claiming the kind that invents stuff - I can assure you that a PRO (paranoid roleblock owner) is not something that I would think of myself in any universe. Only from the mind of the kind of guy who flashes to steal CS. | ||
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Well obviously I haven't given it to anyone yet. | ||
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On November 07 2014 12:23 ritoky wrote: Someone gave me a repair bot last night, interesting that it wasn't VE. Yeah, that was me breh. | ||
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On November 07 2014 12:28 ritoky wrote: Unless someone cc's you on this I am going to assume you're town based on the nature of that power. Also, don't give me your new invention; my ability from last night wasn't expended since I wasn't targeted with KP. Wait now I want to know. What did you mean "interesting that it wasn't VE" | ||
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On November 07 2014 12:31 ritoky wrote: I thought you claimed the invention you made last night was the one you distributed. I didn't know you invented night b4, then gave it out. Hence I thought there was some bs and another inventor going on. Oh yeah. I'm getting an invention like every cycle. They're not super great abilities, and frankly I'm using them poorly I think, but no one is trusting me and helping me decide what to do with the shit so I'm just doin whatever. | ||
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On November 07 2014 12:35 Oatsmaster wrote: Dude you didnt even say you had shit until like 12 hours ago. Stop noobclaiming and whining. "noobclaiming"? Bitch please. I'm not even whining, I'm giving my opinion of my own play. | ||
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Noobclaiming would be "I don't know how these work". You're literally just throwing around catchwords LMAO Are you fucking scum Oats? | ||
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On November 07 2014 13:49 liancourt wrote: i got it at night 2 Got what now? | ||
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On November 07 2014 14:01 Holyflare wrote: a really bad item It's not THAT bad. It protects you from non-factional KP (ability KP) and abilities (roleblocks, rolechecks, namechecks etc) from what I saw. | ||
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D1: Homing Chicken > Misder N1: No item D2: Poultryizer > HF N2: Repair Bots > ritoky That's what I've invented and whom I've given them to. Now I have an Empowerizer or whatever the fuck. Emboldener. It will allow whomever I give it to to repeat their N2 action today in place of any other action. So I guess whoever gets it needs to have an ability today to replace it with? IDK, it's all pretty vague. | ||
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I assumed maybe it was KP or something, "homing" kinda says it's a projectile. He's claiming that it saved him from his own KP which I think is REALLY weird. REALLY weird. | ||
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On November 07 2014 14:35 Holyflare wrote: This is an absolute lie. My item told me what it did. I believe it, it told me what your item did and it specifically did not tell me what the "homing chicken" does. Just sayin, he may not know what it does regardless of his alignment. I do NOT like how he tried to attribute not dying in the night to the chicken. That smells like bullshit. | ||
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On November 07 2014 14:40 Holyflare wrote: How long do the items last? I'm not sure honestly, it's an "item" so I guess I just assumed they stayed active until expended or whatever. | ||
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On November 07 2014 15:21 Oatsmaster wrote: VE please verify that the timeline i posted earlier is accurate, I don't know when they received shit, I gave them out the phase I received them. I don't know when they received them. If I got something during a day phase, then I gave it out during that same day phase. Period. | ||
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On November 07 2014 15:21 Oatsmaster wrote: VE please verify that the timeline i posted earlier is accurate, Like, you're making something out of nothing. What exactly is it that isn't adding up for you? | ||
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On November 07 2014 15:34 Oatsmaster wrote: That your role seems completely weird. Ive never seen anything that doesnt work around the day and night cycles like yours seems to do. Meh - it probably has to do with the fact that I can't use any of the abilities myself or on myself. I agree that aspect IS strange, but it makes sense to me knowing what I know about the things I've invented so far. | ||
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On November 07 2014 15:38 Oatsmaster wrote: and you completely miss a night? Gelbin only has 3 cards he can produce, repair bot/homing chicken and emboldner so you shouldnt get any more inventions. Is ve's role working as intended? They won't answer this obviously regardless of my alignment. I assumed I'd run out of abilities eventually. Either the mods will figure something out or yeah I probably won't get any more inventions. | ||
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On November 07 2014 15:48 Holyflare wrote: So he has 3 abilities but sent out 4? Evidently. I don't know, I don't play the game. | ||
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On November 07 2014 21:37 Chairman Ray wrote: I'm sure there's plenty of other people getting roleblocked and stuff. Have they been notified when it happens? This is what you said. What did HF say that makes you think plenty of people are being role blocked? | ||
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On November 07 2014 21:50 Chairman Ray wrote: Actually I take back that question. If people get chickened when they visit HF last night, then I know for sure that they don't get notified, since I didn't get notified. So wait you for sure believe in the chicken now? Because a second ago everyone involved with the chicken was mafia... | ||
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On November 07 2014 22:21 Chairman Ray wrote: Fine. I don't have a lot of free time, so it's unlikely that I'll be able to catch up on the thread and make a compelling case in the next day. I'll try, but it's unlikely. Please lynch me because of this if you don't figure out a better lynch target. The role I claimed is 100% true. I won't accept any speculation otherwise. The two possibilities I have brought forth were: 1) The chicken is fake. The other items from VE might be real and other people have verified them, but this particular item is fake. VE and HF are mafia. 2) The chicken is real, however anybody visiting the target and getting roleblocked does not get notified. 1) is retarded. Of course the Poultryizer is real, you're nuts. 2) is possible. If you're town you need to make it apparent through some other means than your role and speculation that leads you to the conclusion that two of the towniest individuals in the game must be mafia together. | ||
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4) ritoky 8) VisceraEyes 10) Oatsmaster 11) Alakaslam 13) Damdred 14) liancourt 15) Circumstance 16) Holyflare 17) jaybrundage Out of this many, 3 are mafia and possibly 1 is third party, this seems to be where we're at. My reads are colored. I've removed some of my townreads because it's getting late in the game and it's time to reevaluate. This is where I'm beginning from. Alakaslam seems meeehhhh....he seems okayish to me but I might be trash at reading him. I still have a townread on Jay though, I don't know if much can shake that. Today I'm looking to probably lynch into Damdred/CR/Misder. Suess really wanted him dead, thought I was suspicious for not talking about him or whatever, now Suess dead. | ||
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On November 08 2014 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote: Dude what how am I not greennnn.... Also why dont you have a scumread on lian? Because you've spent half this cycle trying to prove I'm mafia based on nothing Oats - add to that, this is the first cycle you've had an active part in discussion. I'm not going to lynch you today probably but you're definitely not green to me bud. | ||
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On November 08 2014 01:56 Oatsmaster wrote: you didnt explain your role properly man, its not my fault you dont seem to have any clue how actions normally happen. I was totes active day 1. Memory short huh VE. The lian bit man? What makes him not scum? I explained my role fully like 3 times - it's not my fault you can't understand basic english and refuse to read posts not on the current page you piece of shit. | ||
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On November 08 2014 02:17 Damdred wrote: VE why aren't you wanting to talk about lian? Why do you want to lynch me because seuss did at one point? That seems pretty stupid reason to lynch someone lol I want to lynch you for your use of power D1 and reasons I gave at the time. Suess dying just solidifies that read. I'll talk about lian eventually, as you can clearly see he's not colored green so I'll look into him when I get the bug to. | ||
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On November 08 2014 02:21 Damdred wrote: So you don't pay attention to anything i've done said besides the power i used d1, you then go away from your top scum read of me to "work with hf" which btw Seuss had you as scum before he died and you were his top scum read it looks like so off that you should die. And no you need to talk about lian now people are asking you about him I'll talk about him eventually, don't you worry about it. | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:15 Damdred wrote: Why would VE power skip a night like that? Maybe its a coincidence but he won't talk about loan, loan said at one point he got an invention and backtracked out of it, the one night be doesn't get to invent someone visits him and then he goes back to inventing. This whole thing is fishy especially the invention given to hf to block all actions but not kp on people who vists (factional) maybe I'm being paranoid but something feels off, It's all explicit in the thread. Everything about my power. Feel free to elaborate on what you find suspicious. | ||
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Just saying. My thoughts on lian still incoming. | ||
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On November 08 2014 15:48 Holyflare wrote: I don't think there would be a mafia power that sticks them out like that though? Doesn't seem like on you'd get given as a fake claim either tbh... Meh not really reached a conclusion on lian because he kinda just did his own thing like last game where he was town but i dunno. Kinda like the part avout kwwroy and chicken though maybe it's a yolo where he doesn't die? Ya and I generally have a hard time reading that type of playstyle anyway. Short posts, hard lurk. risk.nuke is another example. prplhz sometimes. His filter is so sporatic and staccato up until that last big post. Meeeehhhhh | ||
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I'M A FREIGHT TRAIN HOLYFLARE AND DAMDRED IS GONNA DIE!!!!! | ||
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UUUGGGHHHHHHH. Maybe I'll peruse past games or something. My gut tells me mafia, but I like his Damdred push so it's whatever honestly. Maybe I'm wrong. | ||
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On November 09 2014 00:58 Damdred wrote: Im not sure why the d2 word was a fiasco when i came out straight away and explained what it was? You literally said you got the ability in the night - so why not warn the thread in the night about the word? Like, it seems nitpicky, but that on top of the thing on D1 makes that action questionable to me man. I'm sorry, it just does. Your explanations for things have been lacking too. And this phase your play can be summed up as "pointedly accusatory" toward me - like this whole Lian thing. Why are you so hung up on whether I mention him or not? If it's some sort of association thing then why aren't you trying to get him lynched to see what's what and THEN accuse me? It all just feels really weird and agenda-pushy to me. Like I'm not trying to convince you you're mafia or anything, I'm just explaining why I think you're mafia out loud, for the thread. | ||
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On November 09 2014 01:07 Damdred wrote: And it was stated in the thread N1, DO NOT TALK ABOUT YOUR ABILITIES AT NIGHT IT HELPS MAFIA. So I shut up about my ability and I waited till Day started and came out with it. Not sure what my explanation for thing shave been lacking. Because you basically REFUSED to read someone who had been extremely lurky who has not tried to push the game forward before his huge post (which is still debatable) and your only response was I'll do it later. And your read on him was one of the most lackluster responses i've ever seen you give and the only reason you are ignoring him basically is because it helps you push forward your agenda of lynching me. I'm paranoid of you VE because of your ability skipping a night randomly and then not missing a beat at all, that doesn't make logical sense but it doesn't mean your mafia. I'm paranoid of you because you got into a shit fight with HF for a little bit of pressure which does play towards your town meta, just becuase i'm paranoid of you does not mean your mafia. I don't care if you like my response about lian, the fact of the matter is that I've never played with the guy and looking at old games is hard work and I'm not in the fucking mood to do it right now Damdred, especially given the fact that he's onboard with one of MY favorite lynches in you. Like, that doesn't make me mafia at all - I concede that it DOES help to push my (super town) "lynch Damdred" agenda, but that doesn't make me mafia. Nothing does. Because I'm town. | ||
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On November 09 2014 01:15 Damdred wrote: There is no way i can convince you i'm not mafia honestly VE you already have a pre conceived notion in your head that I am mafia based off my extending the day d1. You became tunneled then and you haven't let it go since. Also thats like the most wifom statement ve, i'm mafia because i made it a word that people were likely to say, so i could warn people so that I would look towny...its plausible though. I played bad with my powers but I feel like I did contribute to the thread in reads and what not aside from my powers anyway i'll start getting stuff together in case i get lynched Why DID you make it a word someone is likely to say? That's what I'm asking, you clearly made it a word of your choosing because you didn't deny that aspect of the accusation, so why DID you make it a word someone is likely to say? | ||
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You dodge the question completely. Why? | ||
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Tell me I'm not crazy plz. Like is Damdred town somehow I'm not seeing? | ||
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On November 07 2014 10:03 Damdred wrote: targeting slam no pixtures/movies all posts over 100 characters. I can't read him well maybe it will help On November 09 2014 07:05 Alakaslam wrote: Stay Chupazi folks On November 09 2014 08:01 Alakaslam wrote: Chupazi I guess we can assume this means Damdred is lying about his third power. Lynch Plz!! | ||
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On November 10 2014 09:19 jaybrundage wrote: Do you think ritoky could be right and maybe oats is scum? Yes I could also lynch Oats. He was another one who was all "Well what about lian huh? Why you not talking about lian huh?" which I found really REALLY odd about Damdred. | ||
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Time to figure this out the old fashioned way! | ||
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On November 10 2014 12:30 Holyflare wrote: who did you give the repeat thing to and what changed about damdred? I didn't give it to anyone because no one claimed a power that's worth repeating. And the only thing that changed since last night is a message from the mod saying I can't vote for Damdred during D4. | ||
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On November 10 2014 12:33 Holyflare wrote: wow that's so fucking mafia favoured in basically mylo wtfh I mean, it's hard to look at that and NOT think "Hmmm Damdred's powers have mostly involved votes" | ||
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On November 10 2014 12:34 Holyflare wrote: well it's super swingy regardless of alignment but im really curious why it only affects damdred being lynched when he said he was using power on me It doesn't say anything about Damdred not being able to be lynched - only that I personally can't vote for him. I can still push for his lynch all I want. I just can't participate directly by way of voting. | ||
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On November 10 2014 12:40 Damdred wrote: Yea I can't vote VE, he can't vote me. I thought I read I got a mason with it last night but I misread and figured maybe I could do stuff to show VE I was town and get his tunnel off me and he could spend the day looking elsewhere. after I reread my pm I was going to do rit and hf but yea just what it is What's the power called? | ||
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On November 10 2014 12:47 Holyflare wrote: i mean a lot of things and i mean A LOT point me to him being the most obvious mafia ever but i still have a niggling feeling that he might not actually be mafia Well describe this feeling in detail so that I might squash it with the mighty boot of truth. | ||
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On November 10 2014 12:49 Damdred wrote: Like, I'm still being scum read on powers here rather than people saying why based on game play, rit tries to show something so I give him that. I'll get the pressure today I know not the person who said he was town but voted missed anyway so its whatever It's game-play related - how you use your role is a part of the game and is part of HOW we determine your alignment. And I've already said that I find the way you were interacting with me regarding lian is suspicious as hell. These are things in the game that you've done that alter my read of you, this argument is so old and just so invalid. | ||
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On November 10 2014 12:50 Holyflare wrote: well it's not very detailed but just that he seems pretty honest at least in trying to explain things (i know this is actually totally wrong and he hasn't actually explained anything he's done fully ever and has done hidden motive things), it's like a super weird feeling that he's just honest in opinions/feelings and underhanded in actions/explanations You just don't want to be wrong about the notes because him editing them is like super obvious and was even pointed out. Plz just vote for him and shut up plz. | ||
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On November 10 2014 12:52 jaybrundage wrote: Would someone be notified if Oats had martyred himself for them? Dramdred takes to scummy to be scum to an extreme. I really don't know what to do with him. BTW didn't Alakaslam claim a vig shot last night? That's a lot of carriage-returns there typewriter man. Why you editing your posts so hard son? | ||
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On November 10 2014 12:56 Damdred wrote: I totally give up just lynch me, I really don't even understand how I should of used my abilities. D1 I was pulling a 16 hour shift and had to sneak into a closet to post my notes so that people would get off my nuts about them, extended the day so I could contribute more after I was off work and try to get GB off me which didn't work all it did was get be to tunnel me. D2 I told the truth about my power and then mod clarified something after convo was over did not effect the outcome. D3 I used my power in a protown way I think even tried to let people give opinons or thoughts on it. D4 idk just what it is Just what it is son. Just what it is. Who are your partners? | ||
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On November 10 2014 13:11 Damdred wrote: No VE I spent my day rereading the game and I think yesterday I said I was suspicious of you but it didn't make you mafia so don't put a lie. No I don't think your mafia, I just know what's coming I think and you only being on me all game doesn't help town Well then point me in the right direction. You made a lot of noise to me about lian yesterday, found me suspicious for not mentioning him if I recall correctly. Are you still suspicious of Liancourt? | ||
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On November 11 2014 04:14 Alakaslam wrote: Fuck This lynch me out then. I had a misdirect but none of you would help so it did nothing, now you want me to be scum (like I didn't go nuts during that night phase? ![]() ![]() ![]() Get the fuck out I've literally never seen you do this. | ||
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On November 11 2014 06:36 Damdred wrote: I'd say the first honestly, there's not a bad situation so far today as mafia me getting pressure and slam going crazy Like, this post sticks out to me for some reason. The bit about slam going crazy implies that slam is town. The bad situation I'm referring to is the pressure I put Slam under when I mentioned him trying to get people to not vote LT on D1. He reacted poorly to it imo, rather than just explaining calmly why he did it he just freaks out and self votes. That screams of mafia just reacting poorly - think about it, no one in the game has really had much to say about Slam, so it's not really fair for him to freak out the way /you/ did because of tunnels etc. He's just got this one bit of pressure from me and he ragequits the game. Like, what about that seems town to you Damdred? | ||
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On November 11 2014 14:09 Damdred wrote: Its mylo no matter what I think before today the game deserves to be reread thoughts should be posted and discussed. Instead of letting game stagnate I'm trying to push some conversation out there. You're just lucky that you're off the table without my vote Damdred. | ||
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On November 11 2014 14:13 Damdred wrote: VE slam has shown paranoia before today and his post really screams of frustration of not being taken seriously to me at least. Mafia agenda today is to try and get one mislynch tell me how slam reacting this way helps that push and show me why he's mafia if you would If he has "townies" in here talking about how townie it is to vote for himself, then how does his reaction NOT help that push? This argument is invalid based upon its very premise. | ||
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On November 11 2014 14:16 Damdred wrote: you have given me crap about not re evaluating the game but where have you re evaluated your read on me since d1... You haven't really just try to work with me today I'm doing it right fucking now, stop bitching for two god damn minutes. | ||
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On November 11 2014 14:18 Holyflare wrote: what's up Read. Comment. Thx. | ||
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On November 11 2014 14:40 Holyflare wrote: that's what i'm thinking currently -.- If Damdred is mafia then we're fucking done sir. DONE. | ||
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On November 11 2014 14:57 Damdred wrote: I thought you were reevaluating this tunnel VE. I've thought about it, I've always liked crs slot for scum and if you compare what's he's doing here to number mafia its so drastically different. He's almost 100% scum. I like lian as mafia as well for reasons before I don't know though if slam or jay is the last I would rather wait to lynch them , but you raise great points against slam They weren't so fucking great a second ago before Holy agreed that Slam might be mafia. Whatever, I should have just left this game alone like everyone fucking else. | ||
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I'm not set on lynching him if my tally doesn't go up, meaning he's telling the truth, but I will lynch no one but Damdred if my tally goes up when he votes for me. | ||
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Furthermore this test doesn't confirm him the other way either - if he's telling the truth about his power then he could still be mafia, it just means that his power started off easily confirmable and he simply told the truth about it. This is simply to rule out one really easy way to confirm him as mafia. | ||
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On November 12 2014 02:15 Holyflare wrote: let's just stick to ray for now K. ##Vote: Chairman Ray | ||
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On November 12 2014 03:18 Alakaslam wrote: I cannot vote myself but I am not switching from liancourt We found one boys!! :D | ||
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I appreciate the sentiment, but we all have to be voting the same person if you're town. Please direct your vote to the person everyone you are townreading is voting, thank you. To provide some perspective, the situation is this: Unless every townie votes on the same person, regardless of whether you think that person is town or mafia, then mafia are able to overpower the vote at the end by vote-switching as one at the end of the day. Meaning that even if you're voting for mafia, unless EVERY OTHER TOWNIE is voting for him too, then it doesn't matter because mafia is going to lynch one of the townies. | ||
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On November 12 2014 10:47 Chairman Ray wrote: w/e, I gotta leave, so I'm dead Notes for town: 1. VE needs to answer my question on why he didn't give his invention to ritoky. I already asked twice. Pester him until he does. 2. Holyflare needs to explain why him and ritoky are both modconfirmed. I don't know much about ritoky's meta, but Holyflare would 100% not say that ritoky is modconfirmed unless he is legitimately mod confirmed. If his reason is a townread and not a reason why they are mod confirmed, then consider lynching them both. Pestering ritoky to claim his secret night action, and pestering Holyflare to claim all of his powers is a good place to start. 3. I asked liancourt a few times to claim his night action. KJHDSAFDDFI get him to do that. Today if possible before I die. I didn't give it to him because it didn't seem like it would matter - he claimed Vet and with the threat of me being able to repeat that there weren't any shots going at him. I wanted to give it to someone with an investigative role, but alas none claimed in time for me to do so. | ||
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On November 12 2014 07:46 Damdred wrote: I know i've played horrible this game and thats ok i'll take the hit for it after the game is over i'm sure. But the "confirmed" townies during the mylo situation have completely abandoned us so far. Ritoky has misrepresented some things i've said and then ninja voted on CR without saying another word in the game or trying to figure out things and letting the thread die, his vote analysis have not led to a lot of conclusions. HF said for town not to give up but today he has not acted like a town leader that I know of in the past, he has just got people onto CR and fucked off basically. And his and VEs fight after rereading it feels really forced Seuss really might of been onto something on that point, like it really comes out of nowhere. The only thing that we have confirming them as townies is a mason chat that They have seemed to escape pretty unscathed this whole game, why shoudln't they of taken VE out once his inventions started flying around the medics were goin to HF and his invention did not block factional KP but just any action performed on him so he seems to be set up for nk but never did. Rit claims to have a bullet proof vest which is understandable can't really test it otherwise, besides that they have been pretty mum on their powers mason chat and hf still never said what they were. I might be going crazy but it just doesn't fit, slam where are you slam | ||
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On November 12 2014 10:51 Damdred wrote: I'd be willing to get on loan. Ve we could be friends and lynch loan We can be friends while I lynch the piss out of you. What's your point? I'm voting for CR with the confirmed townies. I'm not moving unless they do. I'm perfectly willing to lose to a confirmed town mason claim if they're mafia because it's something I've always wanted to do as mafia but never had the cahones to do. It's suicide in the vast majority of cases, so fuck it. I'm tossing in my lot with them. Unless you can make a convincing case for HF mafia (which...good luck with that at this point) then nothing in the world will move my vote OUTSIDE of HF and rit coming in here and moving THEIR votes. | ||
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On November 12 2014 13:49 Damdred wrote: Ve is sad he didn't get to lynch me You were turning my read around the last day, but at that point it was too far gone. I'm sad that I actually specifically remember thinking "make sure to ask ritoky if the mod actually confirmed HF as town" SPECIFICALLY and never did it. I feel like such an asshole ![]() | ||
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On November 12 2014 15:15 geript wrote: HF is really easy to tell as town because of the difference in how and why he pushes. I hope other people pick up on this. Unless you're able to elaborate on how it's different, I don't anticipate many will. | ||
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On November 12 2014 16:05 WaveofShadow wrote: It will my pleasure to see him lynched next time around. I don't even care if guy's town. At this point it's more dangerous to leave him alive in ANY game regardless of his true alignment. I'm not in any way joking, he's going to literally have to fight for his life in any game I play in. Join me. BROTHER!! | ||
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On November 13 2014 06:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey was there again a game where a confirmed town was mafia? ![]() It was my fault. I've seen this very problem personally in a game and I didn't catch it this time. I accept full responsibility this time. Next time though, anyone who was in this game is culpable for the mistake. | ||
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On November 13 2014 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am quite interested in what actually happened. I read kita's post game analysis so did ritoky just misinterpret something andclaim they are townfirmed with Holyflare or what? What happened was that HF claimed that there was one person in the thread who know his alignment for certain (implying a mod-confirmed mason) and when rit came out with the mason claim that was just assumed to be the case. I didn't make sure that the mod actually confirmed HF with ritoky because distraction, and eventually (as with all things) it just became accepted that he was confirmed. | ||
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On November 13 2014 07:08 Blazinghand wrote: I actually consider this to be next-level play, the kind of play I'd like to pull off. I'm sad that I wasn't able to do so first myself. I agree whole-heartedly and I said as much in the thread during the game. | ||
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On November 13 2014 07:31 ritoky wrote: i disagree with this entirely, and take a lot of offense to this comment. i knew full well what i was doing accepting HF's assertion. yes it ended up backfiring on me, but he agreed with my case that lynched mafia day 1 so i was willing to take the risk for a while. like i said if it was 4 or 3 with HF alive, i was lynching HF 100% of the time; i had already made the conscious decision. you shouldn't talk shit and underestimate players. it was that same line of thinking that had 0 people listening to my reads that were 80% on mafia almost all game. Whoa calm down there tiger. I'm not "talking shit" OR "underestimating" you. But the fact remains that you accepted mod-confirmation of Holyflare WITHOUT MOD CONFIRMATION. Like, that is a fact. It was an observation I made. I say you didn't know any better because you literally didn't know any better. You took HF's word being confirmed and you let the thread think as much as well. I'm not saying you're to blame, and I'm not saying you're bad - you were one of the most clear townies in the game. What I'm saying is that the fact that you may not necessarily understand some of the mechanics behind the mason and its subsequent claim came into play when HF decided to play that way, and he's a bastard for it. | ||
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Yeah hard to get reads when fuck-up townies don't give accurate information. Get the fuck outta here kid. | ||
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On November 13 2014 11:36 Holyflare wrote: Calm down, he clearly thought the opposite. On November 13 2014 06:52 VisceraEyes wrote: Also HF is despicable for taking advantage of a player who doesn't know any better, but that's a conversation for a different time and thread. ![]() | ||
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On November 13 2014 17:40 Fecalfeast wrote: I am on book 2 of said series but my dog actually ate my kindle. Reading on my phone is not the same. They just keep getting better. Read however you can. | ||
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