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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 01 2014 23:53 GMT
#1022
On November 02 2014 02:30 Holyflare wrote:
if anyone thinks i missed someone feel free to tell me so i can tell you why you're wrong


u missed misder
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 00:15 GMT
#1030
On November 02 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ehhhh....I think whoever is Aldor Peacekeeper is mafia. Making the lynch into a majority lynch speaks of someone trying to save whoever was up for lynch when it was plurality. :/

Anyone else getting that same vibe?


Is this another herathstone reference I'm not getting? Although I understand the latter part. And can you answer my question I asked you about misder in the earlier part of the thread.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 00:25 GMT
#1032
On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me.


so true getting a flip is important or else we'll be talking the same old crap tomorrow.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 01:43 GMT
#1047
On November 02 2014 04:10 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 04:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm not talking anymore. If you guys don't lynch damdred I won't play this game anymore, so you should lynch me.
Bye.


what the literal fuck.... i'm claiming a blue power role and this is the response? I post my notes though ve mad about redacting and this is what you do.

Good job gb is a good lynch then


your role doesn't really indicate where it's good or bad really. What I do know is that you've made things harder for town to lynch anyone today because we need 9 votes on 1 person. I would really appreciate flips so we can move the discussion onto someone else tomorrow. What was your motive for making it a majority vote?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 02:11 GMT
#1058
On November 02 2014 05:59 Damdred wrote:
I think jrkirby is scum,

His entrance to the thread was odd, GB pointed this out in another post but the first real post that starts raising my suspicion is here

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=11#213

At this point, circumstance is being put under pressure for a slip on a word and his reaction is being tested. And the response that is given before any real explanation can be had is that circumstance is basically ok right now. It feels a little bit like a defend before any real information can be found out feels like buddying and given out a pass for no reason.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=18#351

gives out another townread without any explanation or going back to it.

What was good about hfs posts exactly?

Also he talks about the cat a good bit in his filter which is safe for scum to talk about,

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=14#270
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=15#283
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=15#293
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=22#421
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=25#493
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=25#494
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=25#496
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=27#526

Most of his second page of filter is talking about the cat safely.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=29#568

Wants to lynch a lurker who was not really active to that point, low hanging fruit.

He then goes on to talk about rng some, he seems some what against it but once BH answers him he says this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=31#604

He has a town lean on GB but why leave his LT vote who he thinks hasn't done anything and is scummy and go to GB who he town reads. This is weird, it seems like hes trying to find a safe spot to put his vote it seems like BH might get some support in the thread so he moves his vote to go with it.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=32#622

Doesn't look like the GB lynch will take off so he moves back to LT once he looks up the stats on RNG lynch.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=35#689

Tries to find another spot to park his vote does not get the desired results chaulks it up o a misundersanding and moves on to misder

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=39#770

He then admits to being behind in the thread, goes on to say that he will try to read my filter again to answer gb

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=39#778

Never actually makes another comment about me (he has been absent though), and tries to jump on BH when someone else (oats) says he looks scummy.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=40#791

Overall, He gives townreads without giving any thought, does not seem really to be scum hunting hes jumping his vote around to see what he can find easiest to lynch and really hasn't commented on a lot of burning issues. That in which he has commented on its been in a way thats easy for him to fall back from, I think he is scum and should be the lynch today.


I like this case. It coincides with my views on kirby being jibberishy and not delivering content.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 02:33 GMT
#1063
i'm reading slam on pg 47 and he's on fking fire what has he been smoking lately??? He's not trolling and putting some deep insightful shit. Holy moly this is the reason why I read him town every game. He trolls 90% but then bam! You get knocked off ur knockers because of that post you never think of but makes sense when you read it.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 03:19 GMT
#1073
On November 02 2014 07:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 07:44 Holyflare wrote:
like the only reason you pushed damdred is that he didn't have his notes and he's 100% scum for it (much like bh, ve etc etc) and now he has his notes and i'm "hard defending" someone you shouldn't even be scum reading anymore

like wtf?


He had no scumreads. He put more effort to say why someone is town than to say why someone is mafia.
When asked to make a list, he delays it for a lot of time, then comes back with notes with little content in them, drastically contrasting with his read on jay, which was much more in depth and which he says he just copy pasted.
No post was quoted on his notes, just links. Why the jay read is so drastically different from every other? (Regarding writing style).

He doesn't have a strong scumread HF, and you lynched bats for that. It makes me baffled that you didn't call damdred for that for so long.

You have him time to write the list, HF. You know he could be writing them since I inquired damdred. Yet, when he had you his list; you were completely ok with that.


I remember this bats last game hard defended me when i was in a corner and it was the only thing he did and turned out to be scum.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 03:50 GMT
#1075
On November 02 2014 08:23 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 08:20 liancourt wrote:
On November 02 2014 00:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 02 2014 00:45 Damdred wrote:
because i hate lynching the biggest filter on d2 just like on d1 its just a bad idea generally.

GB we've been over your meta a lot, you are more standoffish as scum and you are fluff make promises that you don't keep and when you do its just bad. Right now you have 2/3 scum traits right now. So if i had a gun i might shoot you but i don't.


I can be lazy as town and not deliver the case I promised at the right time. I've done this a lot. Like, lol.
And you've only said 1 scum trait which is actually a null tell.
You made a case on why you think someone is TOWN when he isn't really getting lynched.
What the hell are you doing?


I've actually never seen damd make a case on day 1 and on for someone who is town even. It's unlike him. He usually just throws out questions here and there...


lian is the only person to point this out, its a nice pickup i hate d1 try not to make cases but i had to today and tired something different that didn't work at all


What do you mean by you had to make a case? Are you refering to the jay town defend case or the kirby scum case?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 04:06 GMT
#1077
On November 02 2014 09:18 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 09:15 liancourt wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ehhhh....I think whoever is Aldor Peacekeeper is mafia. Making the lynch into a majority lynch speaks of someone trying to save whoever was up for lynch when it was plurality. :/

Anyone else getting that same vibe?


Is this another herathstone reference I'm not getting? Although I understand the latter part. And can you answer my question I asked you about misder in the earlier part of the thread.


The power changed the lynch from Plurality Lynch to Majority Lynch, in addition to extending the day. In Majority Lynch, it's much harder to get a lynch, potentially saving the lynch target. This is not a heartshtone reference


No, i meant the aldor peacekeeper thing.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 04:08 GMT
#1078
On November 02 2014 09:29 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 09:25 liancourt wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me.


so true getting a flip is important or else we'll be talking the same old crap tomorrow.


So nothing we've talked about is relevant to you?


It's relevant, but talking about it again tomorrow isn't.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 04:16 GMT
#1079
On November 02 2014 10:46 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 10:43 liancourt wrote:
On November 02 2014 04:10 Damdred wrote:
On November 02 2014 04:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm not talking anymore. If you guys don't lynch damdred I won't play this game anymore, so you should lynch me.
Bye.


what the literal fuck.... i'm claiming a blue power role and this is the response? I post my notes though ve mad about redacting and this is what you do.

Good job gb is a good lynch then


your role doesn't really indicate where it's good or bad really. What I do know is that you've made things harder for town to lynch anyone today because we need 9 votes on 1 person. I would really appreciate flips so we can move the discussion onto someone else tomorrow. What was your motive for making it a majority vote?


are you reading the thread?


i was catching up with things from 6 hrs ago at that post
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 04:55 GMT
#1084
Regarding damdred:

I think it was a bad move to use his role and make it a majority vote. As things stand now it doesn't look like we'll get a clear consensus on 1 person thus resulting in a no lynch which is bad for town.

The thing with his notes and delaying to show them was really suspicious. I don't see a reason why a town would deliberately delay revealing them.

I like his case on kirby, maybe it's because I have a prejudice as I'm reading him scummy in the first place.

Don't know why damdred would come out of his comfort playstyle of just asking questions on day 1.

I would vote damdred for lynch unless something better comes up.

liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 05:14 GMT
#1088
On November 02 2014 13:31 jaybrundage wrote:
Lol LT's reason for thinking someone is town is cringe inducing.

Oat's What do you think of BH after spewed posts all over the thread?

VE's disappearance is troubling he asked me for some my thoughts on Dramdred and then peaced out of the thread.

@Liancourt is jrkirby your main scum read or do you still wanna lynch Misder?

Speaking of Misder he's been afk for a while.

Obi wan Whats your top scum read. Before it was BH. What do you think of him after his posting?



those 2 are my scum reads and now damdred as well.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 05:17 GMT
#1089
On November 02 2014 13:57 Holyflare wrote:
Why would you lynch him if you like his case on kirby?? Theres like 24 hours still to reach a consensus which will easily happen in that time


His scumminess overshadows his townliness. What do you think about kirby?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 05:24 GMT
#1090
On November 02 2014 14:02 Damdred wrote:
I had to make cases because I said I would do things and I did them....its not how I generally do things but that's ok.

I'm not sure at all why loan, would be making that post. There's a few good lynched in the thread and he will have to explain why its me later.

We have 20ish hours to talk and decide so theirs plenty of time to get most of us on one target


I hope you're right that we can get a consensus on 1 person, you did this man. Now fix it!

What do you think about misder?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 05:52 GMT
#1107
On November 02 2014 14:31 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 14:17 liancourt wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:57 Holyflare wrote:
Why would you lynch him if you like his case on kirby?? Theres like 24 hours still to reach a consensus which will easily happen in that time


His scumminess overshadows his townliness. What do you think about kirby?


I don't really think he's scummy at all


What are you trying to say? He's just playing the really bad town card?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 05:59 GMT
#1112
On November 02 2014 14:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not being a prick. I don't find what you said about Damdred to be convincing at all and you're basing your scumread on me around the fact that I didn't agree with your ironclad case. He might have lied, or he might not have, but it's not important because these notes aren't going to be all that useful in the grand scheme of things, nor would not having these notes available to post for your convenience be indicative in any way.

The thing is that I've actually dealt with a similar situation before:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465384-mission-mini-mafia?page=72#1428

The guy who did the exact same thing Damdred did was actually a cop, but someone got so invested in the idea that he lied about having "notes" or what have you that he wound up getting lynched. I don't see what would have warranted Damdred being pressured or claiming because I didn't feel particularly strongly about the case then either.

I have no idea why you're so mad at me. =/


Do you think if we lynch someone besides damdred today town can talk about someone besides damdred tomorrow?

Who would you lynch today and talk about tomorrow?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 06:20 GMT
#1118
On November 02 2014 15:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 14:59 liancourt wrote:
On November 02 2014 14:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not being a prick. I don't find what you said about Damdred to be convincing at all and you're basing your scumread on me around the fact that I didn't agree with your ironclad case. He might have lied, or he might not have, but it's not important because these notes aren't going to be all that useful in the grand scheme of things, nor would not having these notes available to post for your convenience be indicative in any way.

The thing is that I've actually dealt with a similar situation before:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465384-mission-mini-mafia?page=72#1428

The guy who did the exact same thing Damdred did was actually a cop, but someone got so invested in the idea that he lied about having "notes" or what have you that he wound up getting lynched. I don't see what would have warranted Damdred being pressured or claiming because I didn't feel particularly strongly about the case then either.

I have no idea why you're so mad at me. =/


Do you think if we lynch someone besides damdred today town can talk about someone besides damdred tomorrow?

Who would you lynch today and talk about tomorrow?


I'm sorry.

What are you doing?


talking to you
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 06:28 GMT
#1126
On November 02 2014 15:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 15:20 Holyflare wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.

Someone says they have notes
Someone asks to post notes
He doesn't post notes
People start to scum read him for no notes
He extends time because of pressure??
We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes
You say that's bad
He posts notes after some time

Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf.


Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle:

If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it?

What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing.

Can we talk about something else now?



What are you even saying. He didn't post notes that he said he had and then increased time because he thought he would get lynched. If he posted them in the alotted time he would be towny looking and avoid any discussion. I'm pretty sure he made up about having notes and then posted them afterwards and is too scared to admit it but his notes weren't actually that bad so I'm not that wary of him (although still a reasonable amount of doubt).

The only motivation AT THAT TIME. Before he posted notes. Was scum motivation.


But he posted the notes before the allotted time anyway, so it doesn't really matter either way since he had enough time to do so.

So he just wasted his power and claimed for no reason.

@Lian: It looks like you're limited my options to lynching Damdred. That's what I don't like about what you just posted.


then how about giving ur scum reads.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 06:31 GMT
#1128
On November 02 2014 15:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 15:28 liancourt wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:20 Holyflare wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.

Someone says they have notes
Someone asks to post notes
He doesn't post notes
People start to scum read him for no notes
He extends time because of pressure??
We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes
You say that's bad
He posts notes after some time

Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf.


Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle:

If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it?

What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing.

Can we talk about something else now?



What are you even saying. He didn't post notes that he said he had and then increased time because he thought he would get lynched. If he posted them in the alotted time he would be towny looking and avoid any discussion. I'm pretty sure he made up about having notes and then posted them afterwards and is too scared to admit it but his notes weren't actually that bad so I'm not that wary of him (although still a reasonable amount of doubt).

The only motivation AT THAT TIME. Before he posted notes. Was scum motivation.


But he posted the notes before the allotted time anyway, so it doesn't really matter either way since he had enough time to do so.

So he just wasted his power and claimed for no reason.

@Lian: It looks like you're limited my options to lynching Damdred. That's what I don't like about what you just posted.


then how about giving ur scum reads.


BH is one, maybe.

You might be another if you keep this up.


why is bh a scum read? and i'll keep this up cos i can talk to you directly.
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