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On October 31 2014 14:40 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:On October 31 2014 14:31 jaybrundage wrote:On October 31 2014 14:19 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 31 2014 13:59 jaybrundage wrote:
Wait guys I just had an idea what if Mr.Bigglesworth is actually part of Kulthazard as a third party. Who's job is to eliminate the horde cause in that case we should never give votes to the cat. As it can't help us find scum. As horde is not indicative of Mafia Alignment. I dont see why doing a side objective could be bad in any way. Not sure what you mean by side objective. It could hurt us however as third party could glean information to win the game and it would make town lose. Hm thinking about it if horde could be both mafia and town then the third party would be indifferent to helping either of us. hm If third party wins does it mean that town and mafia lose? or does third party win condition, have an objective they have to fufill so they can win with either Mafia or town? Sorry if I didnt make my question clear. I dont know too much about third party in mafia set ups. Town Win Condition: You win when all anti-town threats have been eliminated.
Mafia Win Condition: You win when all threats to the mafia team are eliminated or nothing prevents this from happening.
Third Party Win Condition: ??? read op before playing, come back and post content, kk? The OP didn't answer my question. But based on the context of your post im guessing that you are implying that they wont answer my question. Tell me this then if your knowledgeable on set ups. For the most part are things that are "Third Party" win to the exclusion town and mafia.
Yes and/or no.
There's no way for you to know unless you're third party and third party isn't going to talk about their wincon. It's pointless speculation so stop dragging it out.
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On October 31 2014 14:41 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 14:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Good to know that HF and Oats are town this game. how'd you come to this conclusion?
Holyflare: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=17#334
His follow up posts on Misder were pretty good too. The way he's phrasing things and the way he's analyzing stuff looks pretty town imo.
I just found myself agreeing with what the two of them were saying about Misder and I liked the points they were bringing up. Oats also had a really good post based on keeping discussion off of the stupid cat thing and onto important things.
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On October 31 2014 14:50 jaybrundage wrote:
Yo Obi Holyflare. I asked cause I don't know. For instance the term "Third Party" could in TL Mafia always imply that they win to the exclusion of town and mafia. I didnt know.
But being stuck up just makes you guys seem well... Stuck up. Just cause I'm ignorant of something doesn't mean you have to give me shit. Hell I wasn't even asking you guys at first.Originally I was asking the Hosts.
Also saying it was "all I have been talking about when I had been talking to GB just before that just seems to lack thread awareness.
Sorry, not trying to offend. Just trying to keep us on track, is all.
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On October 31 2014 14:54 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 14:45 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 31 2014 14:31 jaybrundage wrote:On October 31 2014 14:19 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 31 2014 13:59 jaybrundage wrote:
Wait guys I just had an idea what if Mr.Bigglesworth is actually part of Kulthazard as a third party. Who's job is to eliminate the horde cause in that case we should never give votes to the cat. As it can't help us find scum. As horde is not indicative of Mafia Alignment. I dont see why doing a side objective could be bad in any way. Not sure what you mean by side objective. It could hurt us however as third party could glean information to win the game and it would make town lose. Hm thinking about it if horde could be both mafia and town then the third party would be indifferent to helping either of us. hm If third party wins does it mean that town and mafia lose? or does third party win condition, have an objective they have to fufill so they can win with either Mafia or town? Sorry if I didnt make my question clear. I dont know too much about third party in mafia set ups. 3p either wins alone or with town or with scum. So yeahhhhhhhhh basically nothing. I think its way more likely that this helps us rather than hurting us, more info good for town cause of the info imbalance between town and mafia. IGNORE 3P. Interesting that you brought up 3p though, why do you think this game has a 3p? Thank you Oats. See this is the answer I was looking for HF and Obi plz take note. Oh and because the Cat specifically mentioned finding and killing the horde (im paraphasing) And the horde isn't alignment indicative of mafia or town.
Yeah, if 3p doesn't actually have a wincon like ESPN from Fantasy Football.
This is what I was afraid of happening. We don't know anything about 3p, so speculating on it is a waste of time since we can't know and we can't hope to know without having full knowledge of all available role PMs in front of us.
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I'm here. Give me a little bit to reread and I'll have stuff to talk about.
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Someone explain to me why a bunch of people decided to waste our analyze thingie on jb pls.
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Why is Jay a coinflip?
I don't understand.
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On November 01 2014 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 12:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why is Jay a coinflip?
I don't understand. I dont know his alignment but he posted a decent amount leading to a more consistent read by an outside party
Fair enough, I guess.
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The dichotomy between lian/Circumstance is something I'm looking at. I really don't like how lian nitpicks at one of Circumstance's posts and then turns around and then says "hey, it reminds me of when I was new."
When you're new, you end up leaving a ton of holes in your game that people can pick at, which is what I've seen in Circumstance's play. (not having enough scumreads, putting quite a bit of emphasis on setup, etc)
You'd think that would mean you would put more effort into figuring that player out instead of just pushing a tiny thing like that, but I guess lian doesn't feel like doing that. I find it strange.
On November 01 2014 13:51 liancourt wrote:
misder is my top scum atm reasons are in my previous post
dont think he's posted anything since then.
Where do you stand on Circumstance?
Also, the analysis thing on Jay is a waste of time because he's town. I'm not going to elaborate on this because the cat is going to explain it for you. On the off chance that the cat is actually controlled by 3p or mafia, I can compare my read to whatever it gives us and see if it's actually a town entity or not by seeing if it agrees with me.
##Analyze: JB
I kind of realized that I contradicted myself in that paragraph, but w/e it's fine don't think about it.
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On November 01 2014 14:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote : Blazinghand
Tempted to roll with this tbh.
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Tempted to rescind my townread on jb for his bad jokes.
Is it worth it? Probably.
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On November 01 2014 07:01 Holyflare wrote:
Anyway going to get absolutely wasted and dress like a slutty witch cya
Also if this guy doesn't give us pics we lynch him.
Good night.
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On November 02 2014 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
salty about being on a list?
Read my filter.
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On November 02 2014 03:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
salty about being on a list? Read my filter. it's useless, anything new? your only content is how lian pointed out that circumstance was like him being new which didn't make any sense
I was cracking a joke. Cripes dude.
If you're really going to point out content, go back and reread the stuff that I've said because it looks like you've misread the intent of my posts.
We're going to do this dance every game, aren't we?
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I'm probably going to end up voting BH when all is said and done.
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On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me.
Do you think that only scum gets that role?
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On November 02 2014 03:30 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me. Do you think that only scum gets that role? No that's not what I'm saying at all - I don't think what "cards" people are points to alignment at all. I think his USE of the power feels scummy as hell.
I just don't see it I guess? I can see what you're saying, but I'm still not going to vote him for it because I don't find that fact compelling enough to pursue.
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I already don't like a Damdred lynch.
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On November 02 2014 03:44 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I already don't like a Damdred lynch. you are literally useless so it's a good thing you have no sway if you want to be not useless can you explain why he makes a giant case on someone being towny and then says he just copied his notes but then refused to paste the rest of them??
I don't see how him not pasting his notes matters. I just don't see any of the things that he's done as coming from an exclusively scum mindset.
I'd press for more spotlight and stuff but I'm still not entirely sure what's going on with this push. I'm perfectly willing to let things play out for now because I have work in like 30 minutes and we have plenty of time to talk regardless.
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