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Asma be a man and join the game! *peer pressure* | ||
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GB if I said you might be scum what would you say? | ||
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I hate that we are already at this point geript | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:52 DarthPunk wrote: Hopeless will be read based on his contributions like he was in FFL, Glowing bear. Well I am voting for him Damdred, what do you think that tells you? Well considering you AREN'T really voting for him I believe i'm taking it as a pressure vote | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:11 GlowingBear wrote: Geript: trying too hard at the start of the game, picking on little things. He is mafia DarthPunk: his vote on damdred is too scummy. He is either bad mafia (which I don't believe so, he is a legend  ) or he tried to look as mafia for some reason.Start ignoring me, I really believe this at the moment. But is picking on the little things when their is so little to go on (lolz) actually alignment indicative? I'm not so sure that it is, especially with geripts history with me, try to explain to me more why this is mafia trait and not bad/good early scum hunting? Not sure what you mean about DP, hes voted three people in this thread I think. Is throwing a vote around like that scummy for DP? | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote: In a vacuum vote-skipping is town-indicative...it shows a carelessness with regard to one's outward appearance and fearlessness of retribution in the form of OMGUS votes. The question is whether /you/ think it's scummy for DP or not. What do you think? Nope I don't think its scummy, I think a vote could be a good pressure tool. | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:25 VisceraEyes wrote: Following that line of logic: placing one's vote and instantly removing it to vote someone else - that removes any pressure the vote could have ever applied to the voted. Given that by simple observation DP is clearly NOT using his vote as "a good pressure tool" what does that make you think with regard to his alignment? I do not think its necessarily alignment indicative, i've seen both sides do it before. Well he isn't jumping votes instantly though, hes put votes in this thread but not in the other but one. So I still see the other votes as pressure type votes really. Right now i'm leaning town on DP, he seems interested in the thread and doing stuff. | ||
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Hopeless, tell me what you think about GB, Geript and VE. | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote: GB scummy for making no sense about DP and dodging geript townie for tryhard VE is buddying, null. How did GB dodgee? He seems to have answered every question i put to him about it, what do you think about all of his responses? | ||
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Who is this directed at dp | ||
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If its GB read on you, I think it boils down to leaning scum but you are to scummy to be scum. My read on you is leaning town because of interest in the thread and trying to figure things out. | ||
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On October 12 2014 08:07 DarthPunk wrote: Does this make sense in any way to you? Either contextually with what you have seen me post in the thread. Or independently of your read of me? I'm not really understanding the read overall and want GB to elaborate on it a bit more. Everything you've done so far has looked pretty towny. | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:40 Damdred wrote: @GB: We can drop the DP talk for now but i expect a full read on him or at least a better impression before to long. The same goes for Geript. Hopeless, tell me what you think about GB, Geript and VE. This is the original message to get hopeless reads and ending talking with GB. I don't think GBs read is complete or makes sense but that does not mean that he exactly dodged plus I wanted to know hopeless reasoning behind what he was saying. | ||
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On October 12 2014 08:23 DarthPunk wrote: He did dodge though. His read makes no sense and then he refused to talk about it anymore. Isn't that the very definition of dodging? I am not sure, the part where he doesn't want to talk about it anymore is a type of dodging. But at the same time has not had a lot of time to develop the read. But he did answer all of my questions at that point, answer them well not sure yet. | ||
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On October 12 2014 08:35 DarthPunk wrote: What do you think of someone answering your questions but not doing so in a way which actually gives you the information you need to understand them? In general its scummy behavior it interrupts how the other person could answer. Your line of questsions make me feel like you are leading me to scum read gb dp | ||
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@raun, I like people town reading me but at the point in the thread i doubt i read as a strong talented. So a bit concerning | ||
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I don't remember who it was who told me but suck ray is usually super angry. What in seeing from him this one just seems cool and looking for scam and evaluating as people post. Has a strong town read. TH why you do this, spitting that in town and then under pressure at you re ready to descend it diets being passive and not posting enough. Just seems like you are trying to get out from that pressure | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/466211-tl-mafia-lxviii-fanfic-crossover-edition?user=GlowingBear GB did you ever answer the question I posted to you? | ||
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On October 13 2014 04:32 Damdred wrote: Just stopped for a break and food checking in. I don't remember who it was who told me but suck ray is usually super angry. What in seeing from him this one just seems cool and looking for scam and evaluating as people post. Has a strong town read. TH why you do this, spitting that in town and then under pressure at you re ready to descend it diets being passive and not posting enough. Just seems like you are trying to get out from that pressure On October 13 2014 04:33 Damdred wrote: Gay incorrect, th shout be gb probably missed it do to autocorrect | ||
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But then even though you say these things you never make mention of it again or try to scum read me later on either, it all feels like you are trying to negate pressure on you with some of your reads at that point. | ||
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On October 14 2014 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Damdred why did you spend like 4 posts of real time trying to clarify whether or not GB "dodged" when you don't know what your own read on GB is? If it is to clarify Hopeless' intentions or whatever, what is your read on Hopeless? I think I have my read on GB for right now thank you. I spent those posts talking about the dodge because I was asked about it and to clarify my earlier comments, it took that long because of semantics. Read on hopeless is that he seems to be contributing to the thread and giving his thoughts, hes claiming the named blue role that has no powers and nobody is counter claiming him or claiming with him. Its highly likely that he is town. | ||
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Here is my last game as mafia if anyone was wondering. I won't disect it and i'll dig up some town games if people want to compare them, the other mafia game isn't worth mentioning (showdown mafia 2) was a special circumstance type deal. | ||
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On October 14 2014 03:52 geript wrote: I actually think we should lynch Damdred here. He only has 2 pages of filter and in the last 4 town games he's had 4-5 minimum on day 1. He started the day of exceptionally odd. I think you, me and DP all noticed that he's a bit weird. He's actually reading me right, which is something he has yet to do as town. He's also done nothing. I remember meta'ing him in a previous game and noting that passive Damdred tends to be mafia damdred. I don't see why he's town at all actually. Kinda surprised I haven't seriously filtered him before now. #vote I was well on my way to that page count I had over 2 pages in the first what 14-16 hours of the game? Just had to be on the road and could post haphazardly at best. You always think i'm a bit weird (season of a witch, the anime mafia). You murder my meta all of the time geript and its kind of shocking. I don't actually see anything here pulled up or examples why i'm scummy just some sort of twisted meta read that isn't true | ||
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This feels like you are trying to look towny and trying to find a good mislynch to me. Soft pushing oats to see if it picks up traction while hardpushing me for the easy mislynch today ##Vote Geript | ||
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Geript, i've only been mafia twice not sure how you can say this looks like me as mafia when you have a small sample size. I linked the only mafia game I really had to play in, not sure where you are getting all this information from. | ||
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I'm going to reread the game and get my reads together for at the start of the day. | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:34 GlowingBear wrote: Then Damdred, day one is over and you haven't told us if I had done my town tell. Moreover, you said you had a read on me but didn't share it with us. 1) Why aren't you sharing it with us? 2) If you have a scum read on me, why weren't you pushing me? 3) if you have a town read on me, why weren't you fighting my wagon? Your filter is mostly focused on me. You've spent most of your game busy with me. But then you follow the wagon that was being built: How did you suddenly read geript as mafia here? Is that how you see him now? I'm sold on Geript being mafia right now, all his points about me (while it could be said are omgus) they do not line up. Rayn picked a few a part pretty good with my thought pattern, and explained it pretty well. And i'm documented in the thread for reading him scum there, and some reasons for it. 1) I am not sharing my read with you because I wasn't asked and i was in a little bit of a hurry 2) I haven't been pushing you because im pretty sure you aren't scum presently 3) You seemed to do a pretty decent job defending yourself, your filter was big enough where you shouldn't of been the lynch and there was plenty of sentiment to move away from you. So not sure what I was defending you against. I have been tied up with you in my limited thread time, i should be free more tomorrow | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:38 GlowingBear wrote: You look bad for it IMO and also VE because he asked that and your answer to him was bad, but he didn't follow up. He decided to go full throttle on geript. VE is a good player, he would've called you mafia for that. He didn't Damdred, what do you think of VE and ritoky? He went full throttle on geript because geript was doing scummy things especially at the time. (Thats my interpretation) You are reading me bad because of my limited exposure in the thread i'll change that. Ritoky i'm not sure about, hes not really pushing much and is in and out of the thread. I'm not sure of his alignment but I can't say hes town. I like VE I think that hes pretty townish, he looks pretty close to other town games that i've played with him recently. A bit different than his mafia game, just from a meta standpoint anywa. | ||
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On October 14 2014 22:59 GlowingBear wrote: I think that his response was bad. Your answers weren't convincing and he focused only the part regarding you saying that you wouldn't explain again what you've already said in the game. Not sure where I said this at | ||
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Also I said more about geript in my nexxt post so not sure how i'm not saying anything more. It just feels like your trying to nitpick me into being scum gb | ||
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On October 14 2014 23:15 GlowingBear wrote: What is bad in his response? This is what I wanted you to say. I already understand his meta read on you was bad. Yes, it was bad. It was contradictory. But I don't think it's yet a scum slip. Like: why he decided to go against you instead voting on me? Theres probably a few things in my response that he could go after. Such as me saying I have a read on GB but still not giving it which was one of your main points in me bugging you, that would of been a good point to harp on. He could of pushed why I didn't see it worthwhile me defending a townread of mine. But instead he harped on me saying that it was answered in the thread already even though I repeated my read on him the next post. Hes just picking random things to scum read me on. Which is bad and hes scum. Partners for Geript is probably, Sqr is possible, hes not wanting to play the game currently and gave an excuse that hecan't play until today I believe. His reads are basically drop reads and leave it bothers me when people do this, theres no towny reason to do this and not interact with people in the thread or other peoples reads. The other person i'm not sure of, it could be ritoky or kush right now. Ritoky isn't doing that much but hes not looking like season of a witch ritoky to me, kush tried to create a fight against you and then read the first page of your filter and said you were town. Which by the way GB your first page of your filter is not that good to insta town read you on. | ||
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And your "If I were mafia i'd claim a role by now" Thats such wifom | ||
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Why check hopeless here? | ||
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Damdred is not here to defend himself or to react to situations therefore he is mafia! Damdreds activity on another game is double what it was that day, even though we were in different phases in the cycle and nobody was talking in this game but me and he answered every question I asked him. He was also up for lynch there and was trying to get his final reads out. Ritoky did the same BS in season of a witch, activity does not make me mafia or town. Look in season compare it to mission it was about the same time going on one i was way less active and town one i was way more active and mafia. And this is completely retarded that i'm having to defend myself based on activity and a bad meta read from people. Like this isn't even scum hunting its just trying to sound like you are. Good god | ||
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Its hard for me to say not to lynch GB for this stupid shit especially for the vote on me in the thread because its so shit and her reasons for lynching me are so bad. Having a hard time seeing why a towny would claim someone was mafia just for a reaction test and then rescend totally destroying part of the day that could be scum hunting instead and then voting someone who wasn't even here for most of it. I think Kush is probably mafia, GB has a shot at being mafia for being so antitown in all of this and i still like geript for mafia in all of this. | ||
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I've said a few times that I had my read on you, I said that you were probably town and of course you did this town tell at one point which is showing frustration and an inability to get your reads across in a clear manner. A really crappy town tell, but when your mafia you are much to sure of yourself and always hammer stuff down. Which by the way your doing now basically. You are scum reading me on not giving reads? I gave a read on geript, on rayn on VE. So that point is totally null, gave one on hopeless, I had you as town now I don't so good job. Your whole case is shit your whole case bulls down in the thread, damdred is not here. You are probably mafia for destroying the start of the day so GG | ||
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Check fanfic, I ALWAYS disapear for awhile then reapear now. Check almost any game i've been in and I always say "I"m driving home around now so i'll be back when I can". Always show back up around 9 pm eastern or 10 at the latest. You are just coming up with reasons to discredit me now. | ||
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SQR is at least giving reads or opinons about stuff even if it is fragmented and not giving us much else. Kush is just sitting around going i'm playing mafia trolling and voted on hopeless without even trying to figure out the situation and came up with a town read on you from reading one page of your filter even though he didn't say what page. | ||
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Ok maybe i misread, but what did you find out about when i posted about the messed up meta and when rayn posted it? | ||
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On October 14 2014 04:02 Damdred wrote: I was well on my way to that page count I had over 2 pages in the first what 14-16 hours of the game? Just had to be on the road and could post haphazardly at best. You always think i'm a bit weird (season of a witch, the anime mafia). You murder my meta all of the time geript and its kind of shocking. I don't actually see anything here pulled up or examples why i'm scummy just some sort of twisted meta read that isn't true | ||
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On October 14 2014 04:17 Damdred wrote: Geript, why put in that much work on Oats and not vote him? It seems like the only reason that you are voting me is some twisted meta read that is invalidated in the same game that we were playing and the game I posted. This feels like you are trying to look towny and trying to find a good mislynch to me. Soft pushing oats to see if it picks up traction while hardpushing me for the easy mislynch today ##Vote Geript | ||
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On October 14 2014 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is actually quite interesting. So geript says he cannot read Damdred and always reads him mafia. Then he says Damdred is mafia here in this game because of meta which he did last game which was wrong also in that game. of my god maybe geript and GB are just both fucking scum and i was an idiot on D1. | ||
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Select one page of your filter and if it was someone else could you town read that person off of it? | ||
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On your list post, even though you say it might change today you have you will probably vote on sqr depending on how his day goes. But you have him under probably mafia, but you have myself and ritoky higher...if you know where your vote will probably go why isn't he higher on the list at that point? Why is kush so low on the list considering his pretty firm town read on you, and the "reaction Test" that you did? | ||
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2) I'm scum reading geript for the reasons i've already posted Also I take offense to you using showdown 2, the situation is so totally different i was by myself as scum basically from d1 and i just afk cruised my way to victory. Also look at you now, even though i'm your top scum read and you just belted out this huge case you are pushing sqr to see if you can get support for that lynch like really gb? | ||
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On October 15 2014 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: You call it defending. I call it pointing out statements that are ridiculous and have no proof behind them. Could you post the proof? Or let's do it this way... Question to everyone: Who thinks what ritoky says about me has proof behind it and/or has he clearly pointed out the proof he is claiming is there? Do you think his accusations towards me are reasonable for someone who is properly reading the game? To answer your question Rayn. I do not think what ritoky is pointing to has enough strength behind it to sway the read behind it and doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. And no they aren't that resonable i think its pretty obvious you are trying to figure out the game, | ||
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On October 15 2014 12:03 Damdred wrote: Ok, so i need clarification on a few things, you can choose to answer now or when you wake up. On your list post, even though you say it might change today you have you will probably vote on sqr depending on how his day goes. But you have him under probably mafia, but you have myself and ritoky higher...if you know where your vote will probably go why isn't he higher on the list at that point? Why is kush so low on the list considering his pretty firm town read on you, and the "reaction Test" that you did? Also, GB you skipped this as well instead just going into attack mode on me so please answer. | ||
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It does not make much sense to me, he has him as his top scum coming into the day and because of a list post where he calls gb town, he puts him as probably mafia but still would probably vote for him today. Instead of making a case on what is probably his top mafia, he soft pushes him to rayn to see if he can get permission to lynch him or at least get some form of traction and while all of this is going on....make a mega case on me while still seeing if he can get sqr lynched. This just feels so much like mafia trying to find someone to lynch. | ||
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On October 16 2014 02:26 GlowingBear wrote: This is a complete misread of my posts and I've made my line of thought pretty clear when changing opinions. Also, there is no sense saying I am searching someone to mislynch or a permission to Lynn. I've being scumreading sqrt since day1. I've being comparing metas throughout the whole game. I could easily jump on oats last day or any other wagon. I decided to push sqrt because he was my top scumread. You're talking nonsense. Also, I'm a man. Stop saying "she". I feel my boobs growing everytime you say that. I don't think i called you a she in that post I see a lot of masculine pronouns to describe you, if you see she autocorrect probably did it not me. Ok you say i'm misreading your posts. This is the line of thought that I see in your posts tell me where i'm wrong SQR Is top scumread->SQR is probably mafia, bad list post makes me think he might be town->Damdred is definitely mafia but i'll probably vote SQR eod->Rayn would you vote SQR/Damdred would you vote sqr->Leaning scum on sqr. Am I wrong in the series of events and your flow of ideas? | ||
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I'll consider him with that, you mentioned a geript lynch and a kush lynch besides gb we have the same people. Would you be willing to lynch kush who I think has a good shot at mafia? Geript I think is an excellent lynch right now as well, hes just not even trying at this point which is weird for him. Do you also stick with your gb is just bad town? I'm kinda mafia reading him righ tnow | ||
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On October 16 2014 12:02 geript wrote: @Damdred. What was this supposed town tell? Has GB done it yet this game? Provide proofs of your read. Sure, GB has a weak case generating ability as town normally. That is he has a really hard time getting across what he thinks and really struggles with being able to articulate what he means as town. As mafia he does it sometimes, but generally hes really firm and does not struggle in getting across the points. He did it when he was talking about DP, which was why I backed off and generally town read GB early on, but for whatever reason it stopped and he really firm read people. Later on GB has went to the mafia firm stance (check fanfic and how he approached me past day 2 as well) and confusion over why the fake claim was a bad idea really made me think back towards fanfic when he showed confusion over the second lynch. | ||
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I'll give you another chance gb i realize i could be in omgus waters right now, so sway me. VE is it only geript today for you or would you listen to a kush lynch maybe? | ||
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Instead of us tunneling one person into the game I think the best time we can do make is to reread the whole game and take notes of what we think is scummy or not scummy. Let Slam catch up and post reads and we can evaluate him. We each need to revaluate everyone in the game since its mylo isn't it? | ||
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So who do you think is his partners? Do you think CR is his partner with how hes scum reading him but not really pushing him? | ||
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On October 18 2014 00:58 GlowingBear wrote: I've never put so much effort on a case since vets vs newbies. I don't know, I'm still not making associative reads, I just have single targets. But before that, why do you suggest CR? He also sided with geript, whom whe was suspicios of, and geript flipped town. CR is his only scum read left pretty much isn't it basically? I think CR looks pretty towny myself but i was wondering what you made of it | ||
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I'm not sure if i'm just horrible at understanding geript and his tone and that we are just fundamentally opposed no matter what. Or we can read each other later on if we play enough, I could still see him being scum especially with how he quit earlier and it really sucks. Kush should be the #1 lynch today, he makes excuses in the thread about not contributing. He tells us he doesn't give reads during the night obviously but he still doesn't give reads during the day and just sits around trolling barely commenting on anyone besides negatively calling your cases bad for example GB. He then randomly looks at people never shows documentation that the person is town or where he got it from but calls them town anyway, this guy is scum and probably should be the lynch tommorow. Slam/Ritoky Is probably a good shot at being mafia, however I think kush is the better lynch. Ritokys posts had little to no content in it and a lot of the accusations that he was able to bring out didn't really seem fleshed out and seemed a bit bare especially for rit and who he attacked top town rayn. However slam has just gotten replaced in wants to talk bu thasn't read the thread or started to give thoughts yet so thats a negative but shouldn't be lynched today so he can prove he can do things and show his alignment. SQR, your case to me really slams the door on him pretty well. It does become a lurker lynch, but I think ti was CR who pointed out a good scummy point about him which I agree with and your case GB makes me think he is scum but I still woudl rather do Kush first | ||
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Have you even read GBs case? GB points to several examples of him going along with his top scum reads? | ||
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Talk to me where do we go after this, who do you see as mafia besides sqr | ||
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On October 20 2014 00:18 GlowingBear wrote: Tell me what do you think of the votecount today. Just from looking at votes it could be a bus, i don't think ve is suck here. | ||
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Besides that meta cases were bad on me. The main thing was i never documented or went orchard d2 which is what i like doing | ||
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Sorry gb wasn't trying to scumhunt you almost home on it | ||
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Id tell you what's wrong with it | ||
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On October 20 2014 10:13 Hapahauli wrote: Town spent more time complaining about lurkers this game rather than doing something about it. That's why you have to lynch them early. Instead, town lynched active players (geript, Oats), then spiraled into a pit of despair as a result of their own mistakes (VE). The Oats lynch was so bad, even as scum i was like...what is going on? Geript was a bit more understandable and scum just had dto push a little to get it done. | ||
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Damdred
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On October 20 2014 17:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: VE has a tendency to do that When he gets dismotivated. Damdred looked terrible for sheeping my wrong reads all game and when i got shot and accused kush suddenly no shewp any more in MYLO.... He should have been obv-next lynch after kush. Rayn told everyone just follow VE damdred and hopeless! the advice led to victory | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
when I voted sqr i thought people would of jumped on me for pushing kush during night and not during the day. | ||
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