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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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August 28 2014 03:59 GMT
#46
/In

Causewill be fun
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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August 29 2014 20:49 GMT
#62
/Confirm

awesome
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2014 20:31 GMT
#87
If me kush and bats rolled scum together the unholy trinity would totally destroy this game, or we would act so awkward we would't know what to do
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2014 20:32 GMT
#89
I think i'd agree with you
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 01 2014 22:42 GMT
#167
Hi guys, just got home a few ago and caught up.

I really like the idea of trying to break the mafias mission as we go towards the EoD. Though I do not think that we need to drive ourselves crazy trying to figure out exactly what the mission is. We need to develop our reads and reasoning behind having the people up for lynch and every night cycle or day cycle look into how people are voting and see if there are any trends that people take together.

Also just curious when you say cut the day short by an hour and just move all votes to the person who has the majority, doesn't that make our options kind of small and cause a tunnel on that person. If we go that way there really isn't much in the way of vote analysis to go with its just everyone pushed their votes on that one person and we can't see voting patterns for that time period when its important I guess is what i'm saying. That part worries me a bit.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 01 2014 23:54 GMT
#178
@3d12, the main reason that it was suggested I believe was to break the mafias mission whatever it could be. However I do not know if its a good strategy to use at this point in the game, I also thinks that it limits our mafia hunting (and voting) ability to further limit our voting time.

If I may draw your attention to Guilty mafia that just completed, we swung the vote in the last 30 seconds almost to lynch mafia day one. If we get stuck to much in the mindset that we have to find the mission and break it, or piling on votes to one wagon (which i think is what was discussed) is a good idea. It really is not today, or any day. We really need at least two wagons going just so we have another option and we can see peoples voting patterns take form after day1,2,3 etc..

What do you think about Templars post, and batsnacks vote?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 02 2014 03:16 GMT
#250
@3d when you return could you talk more about why you think bat is doing that (as in him being provocative etc) and why town bats would just do that and run out of the thread? Feels like you are giving him a pass on it to easily at this point, though I do not think it is beyond town bats to do it either.


On September 02 2014 09:32 Micchan wrote:
Its only the start of the phase #mess


Why complain and run out of the thread, give us some thoughts about whats going on in the thread.



Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 02 2014 12:58 GMT
#278
I do not think that Plynching bats is a good idea, he has not posted enough for me to get a real read on him yet, and i'm not going to think that his post is mission oriented as it would be counter productive. I have played a lot with bats and normally if hes mafia he formulates his posts a lot more, when hes town he just says random stuff or does random things. Obviously cannot tell, if you want to lynch him do not waste a plynch on him, wait for him to post more and actually do something scummy rather than something to mess with your head. But I also think 3d is a bit premature in giving him a town pass until he posts more.

On September 02 2014 21:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
I prefer not to guess what batsnacks is doing. Safe to say, whatever it is, it isn't very useful.

##vote: obiwan


Oats, is your vote on obi for his random votings and lurking? Or some other reason?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 02 2014 15:32 GMT
#299
On September 03 2014 00:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh and by shoot him, I mean shoot batsnacks, not 3d12. Though I might be willing to get him out of the game too.


Why are you so willing to shoot batsnacks? You even say that this is fool batsnacks in your post, it seems kinda weird you would want to shoot bats when you think hes possibly trying to get lynched..... And why would you be willing to get 3d12 out of the game? He seems awkward its true, and his read on bats is faulty (his initial reasons anyway) but does not getting him out of the game for those reasons seem a bit flimsy to you?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 02 2014 15:55 GMT
#302
On September 03 2014 00:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 00:32 Damdred wrote:
On September 03 2014 00:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh and by shoot him, I mean shoot batsnacks, not 3d12. Though I might be willing to get him out of the game too.


Why are you so willing to shoot batsnacks? You even say that this is fool batsnacks in your post, it seems kinda weird you would want to shoot bats when you think hes possibly trying to get lynched..... And why would you be willing to get 3d12 out of the game? He seems awkward its true, and his read on bats is faulty (his initial reasons anyway) but does not getting him out of the game for those reasons seem a bit flimsy to you?


So a fool's win condition is to be lynched (hey, could be a mafia mission too).

Basically, I'm trying to keep all my options open. It's how I approach the game.

For all I know, we don't even have 3p or vigi. But it was just an idea. So, therefore, that's why I said shoot him rather than lynch.

As for 3d12, more of a gut read, but I don't like his posting. Sure the bs read is slightly based on that, but his posting is awkward in general.


Oh i misunderstood what you were saying about bats, I thought you were just calling him a fool in general not the role fool. I do not know if their is a third party so i'll leave that alone for now.

But does awkward=scummy always? Is that a good way to go about scum reading people?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 02 2014 16:11 GMT
#304
Actually 3d, why are you ignoring bunnies right now? She has said a couple times that she would be happy to get you out of the game, what do you think of that? Why did you put off commenting on it?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 02 2014 16:38 GMT
#306
On September 03 2014 01:30 3d12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 01:11 Damdred wrote:
Actually 3d, why are you ignoring bunnies right now? She has said a couple times that she would be happy to get you out of the game, what do you think of that? Why did you put off commenting on it?


Not worth comment, imo. She said herself that her read on me is only a "gut read," and if people are happy with bandwagoning on a gut feeling to have me lynched, I'll happily /obs and laugh as the scum runs away with the game.


Well I can understand that. However what do you think of bunnies posts besides her gut feeling on you?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 02 2014 18:05 GMT
#322
On September 03 2014 02:28 Micchan wrote:
Ok here whatever
Im srry 3d i highly suspect ing u after backtracking...ur obviously trying to divert attention rn...


Well, i'm looking at 3d and his responses right now, and yes there does seem to be a little backtracking and their is awkwardness but I really don't see him trying to divert. From every post he meets it pretty head on and tries to explain his position. Where do you see him diverting and where to?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 03 2014 02:21 GMT
#401
Few questions for you bats:

Why did you initially vote Templar and give no explanation and then unvote him? Did he do something to deserve your unvote?

You also pay attention to 3d posting and conclude that he has sounded that way since before the game started. Do you think that his ideas and reactions are towny in nature? I know you said you thought his apologetic tone wasn't scummy.

I must say bat this is not the normal town Bats i'm used to normally you are pretty crazy, which you showed with your first two posts (what was the first post from btw). But your posts feel really formulaic atm and it worries me.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 03 2014 02:38 GMT
#411
On September 03 2014 11:24 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 11:21 Damdred wrote:
Few questions for you bats:

Why did you initially vote Templar and give no explanation and then unvote him? Did he do something to deserve your unvote?

You also pay attention to 3d posting and conclude that he has sounded that way since before the game started. Do you think that his ideas and reactions are towny in nature? I know you said you thought his apologetic tone wasn't scummy.

I must say bat this is not the normal town Bats i'm used to normally you are pretty crazy, which you showed with your first two posts (what was the first post from btw). But your posts feel really formulaic atm and it worries me.



Hai I have no read on you. What are you reads?

Why aren't you currently sheeping me onto Micchan?


I'll answer the second question first.

Currently, I am nervous about Micchan. He made his initial post (which i pointed out also), that complains about the thread atmosphere which honestly was not bad at the time of his post. I think we were still in setup talk and were startin to move towards actual talk. He did not stay in the thread and help improve the conversation or even say what the mess was. On his return his posts were an excuse and throwing more suspicion onto 3d with no follow up. He has since lurked obviously. This is worrisome to me, but it is not enough for a scum read currently I think. We still have a good many hours left to search for scum and their is just not much to go on in his filter, theres no real meta case to be made as he is a newb or a smurf. And well I really do not like going for low hanging fruit.

The people who I would like to see more out of right now are:

Batsnacks: His entrance to the thread was weird. On his re-entrance he ignored a lot of things that were posted against him, he never even showed interest in answering anything. His posts are really formulaic, right now they are reminding me of Neat and Tidy mafia instead of crazy bats in Cell or Titanic. Also usually hes really spammy, but his postings have been really hit and miss and even though he spared a lot of thoughts to 3d, his only reaction is that an apologetic tone is not scummy. But their are other things in 3ds posts that he could talk about and he does not really draw conclusions from that.

Bunnies: Bunnies is a bit odd to me, a lot of her early filter is a lot of trolling with fluff thrown in. Suddenly she town reads templar and poof and gives little reason for it. Even goes far enough to meta read poof and giving him a town pass for not very good reasons. This is the worrying part to me, Bunnies talks about shooting people over gut feelings and saying that Bats is a third party (hypothetically). Has not returned to the thread yet and responded to why she would want to direct vig at this point to make a kill and push us towards lylo over nothing.

Micchan for the reasons listed above

3D i'm not really sure about yet, he seems awkward which is not alignment indicative but he at least gives his views in the thread and then tries toe xplain himself. So more of a I want to see more of his thoughts.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 03 2014 02:52 GMT
#418
Vivax, can we talk about mderg for a minute together.

What do you think of him rejoining the thread, saying that we should ignore all missions, and then just talking about 3d the whole time he was in the thread?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 03 2014 02:59 GMT
#423
On September 03 2014 11:51 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 11:38 Damdred wrote:
On September 03 2014 11:24 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 03 2014 11:21 Damdred wrote:
Few questions for you bats:

Why did you initially vote Templar and give no explanation and then unvote him? Did he do something to deserve your unvote?

You also pay attention to 3d posting and conclude that he has sounded that way since before the game started. Do you think that his ideas and reactions are towny in nature? I know you said you thought his apologetic tone wasn't scummy.

I must say bat this is not the normal town Bats i'm used to normally you are pretty crazy, which you showed with your first two posts (what was the first post from btw). But your posts feel really formulaic atm and it worries me.



Hai I have no read on you. What are you reads?

Why aren't you currently sheeping me onto Micchan?


I'll answer the second question first.

Currently, I am nervous about Micchan. He made his initial post (which i pointed out also), that complains about the thread atmosphere which honestly was not bad at the time of his post. I think we were still in setup talk and were startin to move towards actual talk. He did not stay in the thread and help improve the conversation or even say what the mess was. On his return his posts were an excuse and throwing more suspicion onto 3d with no follow up. He has since lurked obviously. This is worrisome to me, but it is not enough for a scum read currently I think. We still have a good many hours left to search for scum and their is just not much to go on in his filter, theres no real meta case to be made as he is a newb or a smurf. And well I really do not like going for low hanging fruit.

The people who I would like to see more out of right now are:

Batsnacks: His entrance to the thread was weird. On his re-entrance he ignored a lot of things that were posted against him, he never even showed interest in answering anything. His posts are really formulaic, right now they are reminding me of Neat and Tidy mafia instead of crazy bats in Cell or Titanic. Also usually hes really spammy, but his postings have been really hit and miss and even though he spared a lot of thoughts to 3d, his only reaction is that an apologetic tone is not scummy. But their are other things in 3ds posts that he could talk about and he does not really draw conclusions from that.

Bunnies: Bunnies is a bit odd to me, a lot of her early filter is a lot of trolling with fluff thrown in. Suddenly she town reads templar and poof and gives little reason for it. Even goes far enough to meta read poof and giving him a town pass for not very good reasons. This is the worrying part to me, Bunnies talks about shooting people over gut feelings and saying that Bats is a third party (hypothetically). Has not returned to the thread yet and responded to why she would want to direct vig at this point to make a kill and push us towards lylo over nothing.

Micchan for the reasons listed above

3D i'm not really sure about yet, he seems awkward which is not alignment indicative but he at least gives his views in the thread and then tries toe xplain himself. So more of a I want to see more of his thoughts.



Getting tired of this "yeah Micchan is being scummy and lurking but naa I don't want to vote him" Why do you think mafia isn't hoping on this lynch if Micchan is town? He is clearly just not trying and would be the easiest of all easy misslynches.


I'm starting to wonder if the mafia goal involves like not voting as there is a bunch of people who haven't even placed a vote as of yet.

I agree with your Bunnies read. I'm not too excited on how she talks about 3d parties and stuff wanting to kill them more than mafia as I think Oats pointed out.

3D Can you describe what you mean by awkward I think I know what you mean but not 100% also why would you bring it up that its a null in your opinion?

Do you have any town reads atm?

Batsnacks in the games you mentioned what alignment was he? I don't think I played in those.


i'll start at the bottom and work my way up

In N&T where his posts were the most formulaic he was mafia. In Titanic and Cell he ws a bit more irrational and hopped about, but he never avoided questions he met everything head on and faught everyone who really wanted to scum read him. He ignored all of that here like he sorta did in N&T.

I have some town leans currently

Well, I mean hes a bit awkward in his posts in that he needs follow up to clarify what he means and the idea behind it. And he draws a lot of attention because of it. I'm worried about him mainly because I do not know his play style and can not look it up. So i'd like to see a bit more to give me a bit more of a concrete read.

Well theres still plenty of time to find a good lynch for today. Especially since this is not an instant majority, we have time to mull our options so no my vote is precious to me and I'll give it out when I think that they are mafia. So quit with the bad pressure to vote him right now.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 03 2014 03:04 GMT
#425
On September 03 2014 11:57 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 11:52 Damdred wrote:
Vivax, can we talk about mderg for a minute together.

What do you think of him rejoining the thread, saying that we should ignore all missions, and then just talking about 3d the whole time he was in the thread?


Oh I c just want to talk to Vivax and not me Damdred? jerk. I'm talking about him anyways.... cause lets be honest I forgot completely about mderg. He's not even in my BMK but I liked him as a Bang earlier his view on missions was weird but I felt like his reaction to when we discussed things earlier felt townie.

You think he's scummy?


He is curious to me right now. There were a few things to talk about in the thread at that point that he could of talked about, or some other reads he could of given. In one of his opening posts he even says giving reads>finding missions.

There are a few other things he could of talked about or brought attention to, for instance he mentioned how lazy the votes on bats were. But he did not even bother talking about that in detail, he instead jumped on the pressure 3d train and then left the thread.

So yea he looks a little weird to me righ tnow.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 03 2014 03:10 GMT
#428
On September 03 2014 12:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I love how almost everyone is okay with me doing nothing.


Then do something
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 03 2014 04:56 GMT
#456
Thats Neat and Tidy Obi
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