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I think Superbia is probably town. Doing FF next. | ||
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Going over Super's filter I actually really like his point about how confident/apologetic FF is. It feels like he's speaking with authority on some matters, but apologizing for speaking with said authority. It looks like the majority of his confidence is when he's picking apart others' mafia reads of people, which raises red flags for me coming from a newer player like FF who (no offense intended) isn't really expected to know like, WHAT to look for to find mafia. For some background, I played in FF's first game here and I told BH after I died that I thought FF was doing a PHENOMENAL job regardless of his alignment based on how town he looked - I'm not getting that same kind of feeling this game. He also refers back to that game a couple of times, generally to make a point about how something someone says is wrong either about him or about something that relates to him. I find this a little awkward. His activity this cycle irks me, but that's not really indicative one way or the other generally speaking. The thing I don't like is how he seemed to be content to let VE/Storr argue in the thread. Like, I'm not sure what his irl schedule is (I think he said something like 3pm to 10pm or something for most active?) but I think he was outside that particular box today when popping into the thread earlier, and then disappeared when shit started getting real with Storr and VE. Annoyed townie? Maybe, but frankly I'd think he'd relish in the opportunity to read VE considering how much of a non-presence Haru was. I'm leaning mafia on FF. I'm leaning townie on JAT for a couple of reasons. First because of how he approached me entering the game - he made sure that I was aware that I was replacing a suspicious slot, like Storrzerg, but UNLIKE Storrzerg, not in an overly aggressive "I've got shit figured out already, it's just a matter of time" kind of way. Some might read it as diplomatic, I read it as giving me space to read the thread. Storr immediately started barking orders and trying to push his agenda. It's a stark contrast for a similar sentiment and I'm reading JAT's as more townie. Second, he's like, one of maybe 2 people in the game who see what I'm seeing with regard to Storrzerg and his interactions with other people regarding ObiWan. I'm not going into that now, but it plays into my read and I'm not gonna lie about it. As I said earlier, I'm starting to get a little paranoid about JAT being so agreeable with what I'm saying, but I THINK I'M RIGHT, and he SEEMS to agree, so I don't really know how to take that. Again, I'm giving JAT the benefit of the doubt. Maybe a mistake - he fools the likes of marv and Palmar. This is my least sure read, but the one I want to be correct the most (even over my Storr scumread). If JAT is mafia I'm going to probably cry. TEARS OF BLOOD. | ||
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On October 03 2014 05:34 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm saying the argument between VE and storr is scummy and that perpetuating it is ridiculous because it's just pages of the same thing. I'm not even sure who looks worse right now, VE or storr. I don't like the 'we should keep reads a secret so mafia has less info' argument at all... If you hide info and you #1 scumread is town we LOSE THE GAME. I'm not buying that at all. There is no chance you would have lived as a lurker at this point. HF was dead sure haru was scum if sky flipped town, hell pretty much everyone said that at one point or another. You were dead if you didn't come in full force. On October 03 2014 08:53 Fecalfeast wrote: VisceraEyes before you get the wagon on me moving, remember how shitty I was as confirmed town in the italian dressing game. I'm not mafia. I'm useless, I suck, I get that this means nothing as mafiafecalfeast can say the same thing... but I'm a surefire way to lose the game. It's frustrating because the person who has been pushing me the hardest is our confirmed town coupled with the fact that I have hardly had the time to put in. With regards to my schedule: I post from my phone while I am making my morning coffee and packing my morning bowl but I spend my time before work losing at SC2, not posting on TL. I still think Obi is scum but nobody has cared what I think all game so whatever. First of all, I'M not getting a wagon moving on you, there's ALREADY a wagon moving on you which does NOT include me as yet. Second of all the tone of the first quote is VERY accusatory and in tone sides with Storrzerg - you say you don't know who looks worse, but it's pretty clear that you're thinking I look worse based on the content of the post. The tone of the second post is VERY different - as if you KNOW I'm town and you're pleading with me. Gonna need you to clarify your read on me now that I've complied with Storr's/everyone else's request of me and given my reads. | ||
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On October 03 2014 09:00 justanothertownie wrote: This is hardly a wagon. Last time I checked I was the only vote on FF. I think Superbia joined too right? | ||
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On October 03 2014 09:03 Fecalfeast wrote: I hear you. I also am incredibly hard on myself. I don't care if you buy the woe is me act but my confidence took a serious hit. Also when 2 people are voting me, a third joins in and you start saying I'm scummy, that sounds like a wagon starting up to me With so few players, EVERYTHING looks like a wagon. Just sayin. | ||
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What's weird is that the people I'm reading as town seem to be agreeing with my reads, but don't seem to want to vote with me. Bats what changed your mind on Storrzerg precisely? Was it something specific? Earlier you said you'd like to lynch him, now you seem adamant about lynching either Super or FF - which is fine, your reads or whatever, I'm just asking what's changed between then and now. | ||
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On October 03 2014 09:17 StorrZerg wrote: games probably the same and hasn't changed. Towns fighting all game bashing heads making the lynches. Hence why mafia have been easily able to just sit back and let things happen Players like FF, Super (day 1 extraordinaire afking while letting "town sort it out with a useless vote) Ve probably the 3rd. Reading 2 people town + himself in the group. Its wrong logically. Can't have 2 mafia on palmar with HF dead. Thus VE logic is wrong, has to be scum. Anyone who has ever played with me ever knows THIS isn't true. But please, flail around moar. | ||
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On October 03 2014 09:18 justanothertownie wrote: The problem is mafia can SAY all they want. What really matters are votes. Well those don't really matter either until the end breeeehhhhhhh. Last-minute shenannies for the lose. Ask anyone from TL XLVII. | ||
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On October 03 2014 09:24 Superbia wrote: Just making sure it's still the same, VE. I could have told you that nothing I posted would change his mind. He's maf dude, gotta get dat MISLYNCH breeeehhhhhhhh. | ||
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