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On October 02 2014 02:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't "pick" a favorite wagon. Palmar did something really suspicious and I went after him for it.
It's an easy thing to look at in hindsight and say it's scummy because his flip is already out there.
Furthermore why wouldn't scumStorr have motivation to switch to Palmar? By your own reasoning you should be suspicious of both of us and not just me. But you were just questioning him on his reasoning and gave him a pass without getting an answer.
Because Storr was already on a PASSING townie wagon in Sky unless I'm missing something. That means that he had to draw attention to himself by switching wagons, DRAW FURTHER ATTENTION to himself by making huge posts on the matter, and then STILL look bad because Palmar flipped town WHICH HE WOULD KNOW.
YOU on the other hand were NOT on a wagon. You hadn't chosen a side, so when you finally do choose a side it doesn't look AS suspicious on the surface...but given the flip, it makes it look like you were just going with the flow and voting on the easiest mislynch at the time.
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On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward.
He's saying that from everyone's perspective:
3 mafia.
IF you think 1 is mafia between Obi/Storr (based on D2 wagons) then there HAVE to be 2 in the other voters.
IF you think they are both mafia then there is only one in the other voters.
He's saying that from his perspective, he KNOWS there's at max 1 on Palmar (because he knows he is town)
Therefor he knows that there are AT LEAST 2 in the other voters, POSSIBLY 3. From his perspective.
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What makes me suspicious of Storr is that he's opting to look outside the wagon rather than look at Obi. Especially since he's recently moved him to "Null" for "X-Reason". If "X-Reason" was enough to downgrade a townread to null, then why when there is good evidence that he's mafia in the voting patterns is he wanting to look elsewhere?
But like I said, I'm not interested in Storr today. He might have a reason I'm not seeing that he's not sharing or isn't repeating. Whatever. I want to lynch Obi today.
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On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today. You are impossible. What is your updated read on me and obi. Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar.
In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question.
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On October 02 2014 02:24 StorrZerg wrote:
Find scum in your 4 ve...
I'll do that when I ensure the lynch of the mafia I've found Storr. Stop telling me what to do.
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On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today. You are impossible. What is your updated read on me and obi. Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar. In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question. Good observation. Have a cookie.
I like cookies!
No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more.
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On October 02 2014 02:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, I haven't read him. XD
FF and JAT could be mafia, but our best shot is Obi based on D2 wagons. Join me and win, or oppose me and lose. The choice is yours.
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Based on what I've seen:
Null-points for wanting to give me time to read. Town points for noticing Storr's reticence to vote for or even consider Obi.
But I have NOT filtered JAT, nor will I do so without compelling evidence that he's a better lynch than Obi.
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On October 02 2014 02:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:18 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 02 2014 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't "pick" a favorite wagon. Palmar did something really suspicious and I went after him for it.
It's an easy thing to look at in hindsight and say it's scummy because his flip is already out there.
Furthermore why wouldn't scumStorr have motivation to switch to Palmar? By your own reasoning you should be suspicious of both of us and not just me. But you were just questioning him on his reasoning and gave him a pass without getting an answer. Because Storr was already on a PASSING townie wagon in Sky unless I'm missing something. That means that he had to draw attention to himself by switching wagons, DRAW FURTHER ATTENTION to himself by making huge posts on the matter, and then STILL look bad because Palmar flipped town WHICH HE WOULD KNOW. YOU on the other hand were NOT on a wagon. You hadn't chosen a side, so when you finally do choose a side it doesn't look AS suspicious on the surface...but given the flip, it makes it look like you were just going with the flow and voting on the easiest mislynch at the time. I was already suspicious of Sky. I had chosen a side long beforehand but Palmar came and did something really fucking scummy. So I voted him. This is what happens when you don't read the game. Pretty rich to attack a new replacement of not having read the game. Considering that his attack is pretty much baseless then yeah.
MY attack is not baseless. It's based on facts that are in this thread plain to see for everyone.
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On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today. You are impossible. What is your updated read on me and obi. Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar. In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question. Good observation. Have a cookie. I like cookies! No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more. Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town. I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be.
I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D
In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully".
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On October 02 2014 02:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Your case boils down to me switching without initially voting Sky.
If I voted Sky beforehand you wouldn't have said shit.
Maybe, but you didn't.
Further, in spite of Sky being a SUPER HARD TOWNREAD, you were the LAST on his wagon yesterday.
Get rektum scum. <3
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SUPER HARD MAFREAD is what that should say.
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On October 02 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today. You are impossible. What is your updated read on me and obi. Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar. In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question. Good observation. Have a cookie. I like cookies! No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more. Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town. I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully". Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died.
But that's just it - I've given reasoning for thinking Obi is mafia and Storr has been in here posting and shit - you should have a better read on the situation than your "feelings going into today". I appreciate that the game is difficult at this point, but if you're going to put on a show of trying to figure out the game then you gotta go through the motions of explaining your reasoning for shit - comes with the territory.
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On October 02 2014 02:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:35 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Your case boils down to me switching without initially voting Sky.
If I voted Sky beforehand you wouldn't have said shit. Maybe, but you didn't. Further, in spite of Sky being a SUPER HARD TOWNREAD, you were the LAST on his wagon yesterday. Get rektum scum. <3 Explain how me being last on his wagon yesterday is bad.
Because you JUST claimed (indignantly) that "if you'd read the thread you'd know that Sky has been my top mafia read all game"....if that's the case then why weren't you in here HARD pushing him ALL DAY? Why wasn't your vote INSTANTLY on Sky yesterday? TOWNIES who have hard mafia reads VOTE on them. MAFIA who have "hard mafia reads" want to see if the wagon is going to take off before voting.
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Anyways I've got shit to do. If anyone has any questions about my Obi read, or disagrees with it, or whatever, then hit me up. I'm not responding to requests to read other players. If you think other players are mafia, then convince me. I'm willing to hear other arguements. What I'm not willing to do is be swayed off Obi for no reason.
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On October 02 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:
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You are impossible.
What is your updated read on me and obi. Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar. In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question. Good observation. Have a cookie. I like cookies! No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more. Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town. I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully". Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died. But that's just it - I've given reasoning for thinking Obi is mafia and Storr has been in here posting and shit - you should have a better read on the situation than your "feelings going into today". I appreciate that the game is difficult at this point, but if you're going to put on a show of trying to figure out the game then you gotta go through the motions of explaining your reasoning for shit - comes with the territory. There is truth in what you are saying but you also need to consider that now that we are in LYLO scum is able to say whatever they want and bus all day. You really need to consider the complete game your target played. And if I do that then there is still a part of me that wants to lynch you tbh. The only one I have a slight townread on is FF. Maybe Storr. I will go through some filters later.
Okay, based on this post I'm willing to lynch JAT OR Obi. Storr gets to pick, by virtue of being the only confirmed town in the game who is doing anything.
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On October 02 2014 02:46 justanothertownie wrote:
And to be fair VE I don't think your reasoning on Obi is very good.
GOT 'EM BOYS!!! LMAO
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You literally just said you're willing to lynch me. I've done nothing but try and figure out the game since I started. Get fucked.
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On October 02 2014 00:54 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 00:51 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 00:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Hi VE btw. I hope you have the time to do a lot today if you are town because your slot looks awfully scummy. Frankly I replaced in knowing I'd probably be lynched. I'll do exactly as much as I need to to try and find mafia - I'm not expending extra effort to make sure you guys don't mislynch me. I can't even do that when I've been in a game THE WHOLE TIME, and there's no way for me to explain posts my predecessor made, so all my energy is going into finding mafia and zero into defending myself. Attention scum: VE is the easiest mislynch ever this game, and you can probably hide on his wagon. Just FYI. No problem. Don't even bother with Harus stuff and just post your own thoughts. It would also be appreciated if you refrained from martyring (if you are town).
So which is it JAT? Do you want me to bother with Haru's stuff or don't you? Are you going to read my slot based on my posts or not?
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On October 02 2014 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
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In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question. Good observation. Have a cookie. I like cookies! No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more. Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town. I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully". Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died. But that's just it - I've given reasoning for thinking Obi is mafia and Storr has been in here posting and shit - you should have a better read on the situation than your "feelings going into today". I appreciate that the game is difficult at this point, but if you're going to put on a show of trying to figure out the game then you gotta go through the motions of explaining your reasoning for shit - comes with the territory. There is truth in what you are saying but you also need to consider that now that we are in LYLO scum is able to say whatever they want and bus all day. You really need to consider the complete game your target played. And if I do that then there is still a part of me that wants to lynch you tbh. The only one I have a slight townread on is FF. Maybe Storr. I will go through some filters later. Okay, based on this post I'm willing to lynch JAT OR Obi. Storr gets to pick, by virtue of being the only confirmed town in the game who is doing anything. Btw what are you talking about? Storr is not confirmed town.
I gave reasoning for thinking Storr is town. Storr as mafia has no reason. NO REASON AT ALL to switch from Sky to Palmar after lurking the whole day WITH his vote on Sky. He can just sit back, do nothing, and let Sky get lynched. Instead he comes in and in a tirade gets people to lynch Palmar. MAFIA DO NOT DO THAT. So Storr is town to me. I probably won't lynch unless he and I are both in final 3 with someone who looks REALLY REALLY fucking town, and that guy makes a REALLY REALLY good case that I literally can say nothing to. He's THAT town to me.
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