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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
On August 31 2014 03:10 Superbia wrote: I'll just say it at this point, because it didn't work, it was a play. Two of your reads are correct on this post, it's meant to taunt mafia and be annoying (specifically towards mafia). I was hoping one of the higher-rated towns (e.g. Jenny or yourself) would pick up on it and mirror it to be more annoying towards mafia. It's meant to bait out mafia to become agitated and justify the(/their) lynch (indirectly, most likely). Notice the missdirection during EoN1 also acts as a prelude. Provided, it doesn't have a high chance of success, but it doesn't take up any time. I don't like to accept the "I can't interact with you" line. Besides, I can still ask questions and he can answer them later as far as I care. I'm not going to push someone for ignoring things I ask, else I would probably have to start pushing on everyone. Here's my fear for tonight: MihZaaa doesn't show up -> we don't lynch him because lynching lurkers is a big risk -> he takes the free warning and shows up on day 3. Can we get a wagon other than me? I would like to have higher chances of killing scum. First: Thanks for explaining the first post after the nightpost. I didn't see it this way. Never crossed my mind, to join in in something like this, since I don't see anybody falling for this. We will just have to life with the fact, that we got different approaches on this post. Second: I bolded this part: I already did. This is exactly, what I am talking about, when I say, you invoke the impression of not reading the thread close enough. I don't expect you, to know the thread insideout, but this was a post, in which I was defending you from daydreamarines attack. You must have seen this post... But this is, what I mean, when I say, that I don't really want to discuss this. A discussion like this has a high chance of ending in an arguement, that goes like "you see, you did this again" - "yeah, right... i missed one single post. fuck me, right?" - "i called you on this also." - ... Which would lead to nothing, but waste both of our time. Third: I am uncomfortable with lynching inactives and therefore am really concerned about heading into a lynchvote with one inactive and you. This inactivity by almost all just sucks. | ||
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
On August 31 2014 04:48 Superbia wrote: So you'd rather join a bus than start one yourself? Why? I think I gave a pretty good reason to join your bus, or do you think I made this decission lightly and without thinking about it? Yes, I am following my main-townreads. No, I am not mindlessly joining a bus, to make my life easy. You said it yourself. I was the first, to make a complete case on you. | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
The longer he stays a questionmark the longer he will be a hindrance for town. I hope hope hope that whoever dies tonight flips mafia so that we can stop going in to mylo. If we go to mylo we will spend that entire day discussing and then novote, because if we misslynch in mylo we lose. So we sleep, let them kill 1 more, and then we have increased our odds to a 40% chance to hit 1 mafia. | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
If you feel someone else is a more suitable candidate for wagon than MihZaa, because obviously you already think you shouldn't be one, then come out with it and explain why and at least put a vote down. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On August 29 2014 12:13 Breshke wrote: @Barakos Ill try talk you through the thought process of my votes. It starts with dook bm'ing and also calling me useless. This annoyed me a fair bit because yes I conceded ive been fairly useless this game msotly just agreeing with people and such but this is a noobie game and my first game of forum mafia ever and I had been trying to produce content but it just wasn’t happening whereas people than asked dook to explain his reads and he refused to. Him calling me useless felt ironic to me but yes my initial vote looking back was probably a omgus. Jenny then started defending him and pointing out that this could be town behaviour which made me realise my vote was very rash. At this stage I wanted to change my vote to mihzaa as he was someone I actually thought was mafia. Mihzaa was not active though so I didn't know If voting him would be seen as bad mannerd. Lilwade then voted on him so this cleared this up for me and dook finally explained his read on abuse which in my mind showed he was interested in playing the game again. I then changed my vote. It's another "I'm a newbie" excuse, but I've been called out for hammering on this, so whatever. His explanations on his votes feel genuine. Especially him admitting that the initial push on dook was omgus. On August 30 2014 08:59 Breshke wrote: I asked if anyone else was roadblocked because if abuse was jailed mafia knew exactly what setup it was, If he was blocked by mafia (which now seems most likely as jenny and others have pointed out) the mafia had a 50/50 on the setup. Seems like i will be one of the wagons at the end of the day so its likely we could go two days without lynching a mafia. Because of this i wanted to try and get as much information out there so mafia can't fakeclaim easily tomorrow. I really like this reasoning on the block/jail ask (i.e. "it's 50/50 for mafia to have complete info on the set up now"). This feels really townie to me. On August 30 2014 08:59 Breshke wrote:For me it was a bonus that Jenny was the other person that was role blocked as at the time i was starting to live in a world where as i explained previously jennys defense of dook was just an easy way to get town points and she was going to coast her way to an easy victory. Now that she has claimed role blocked i think that world would be less likely as she could have just kept that information to herself and on the off chance she is lieing i think that situation will resolve itself. Thinks about a multitude of worlds (i.e. Jenny hard defended dook for easy townpoints). More townie points. On August 31 2014 00:27 Breshke wrote: You seemed to analyse it much better than i did and cleared it up for me. I also think that abuses claim is now confirmed and i agree completly with the reasoning on how he was likely roleblocked by mafia. This makes Abuse my second top town if not equal with daydreammarine unless mafia was making a play (roleblocking one of their own) which again is very very very unlikely as it would have been such a huge risk as they still didn't know the setup, abuse is . Most of my problems with jenny this game have been that i have thought she is too town to be town. I realize that this is most likely paranoia and she is doing so many towny things for example fighting so hard to get the lynch of dook because she is town. I'm still a little iffy on the abuse claim (I worked it out a little in my head risk-reward wise, but I need to write it out to see if this is a play mafia can make with little risk), but his reasoning feels genuine (like that's how it really happened in his world). Overall, I feel like Breshke stepped it up today, but I honestly don't know how I feel at this point about him. He feels like a person who's stronger at logical reasoning (due to his comments on the block claim thing), which might explain his day 1 play. I want to know one thing Breshke, why did Barakos go from your town circle to null but leaning town? | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On August 31 2014 04:59 Barakos wrote: Second: I bolded this part: I already did. This is exactly, what I am talking about, when I say, you invoke the impression of not reading the thread close enough. I don't expect you, to know the thread insideout, but this was a post, in which I was defending you from daydreamarines attack. You must have seen this post... If I give a defense I will give a general explanation. You might've seen the relation, but there are others who might not have. On August 31 2014 05:13 JennyHell wrote: Superbia, you still haven't voted. Please do so. We can't risk having too many people not on the wagons, making things easier for mafia. If you feel someone else is a more suitable candidate for wagon than MihZaa, because obviously you already think you shouldn't be one, then come out with it and explain why and at least put a vote down. ##Vote: MihZaaa I don't think Breshke is a very good one, but probably better than me. I'm going to take another look at lilwade right now. I also want to take another look at Barakos, but I don't think I have the time/energy to fully dive into him as well today. Especially since everyone will simply disagree with my reads anyway (yes, I am fucking salty, I can't remember the last time anyone agreed with me on something significant). | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On August 30 2014 07:09 lilwade wrote: Lets get down to it Marry - Daydreammarine after his day 2 activity I think it is undeniable this guy is top town. His opinion, many people have a "feel" read on marine, passable. [/QUOTE] On August 30 2014 07:09 lilwade wrote:Bang- Jenny - I really really want to marry you but something I was reading while going through your filter made me hold off, in short it was because you were doing something you told us all we shouldnt I do. I dont want to explain further because I feel you are still strongly town. Says absolutely nothing here except he makes a promise. On August 30 2014 07:09 lilwade wrote:Barakos - Everyone has had you in their town circle and I dont necessarily disagree I just think that we need to examine everyone with the same perspective as others. Not what makes you town but what seems scummy. Another empty post. On August 30 2014 07:09 lilwade wrote:Abuse - you started off pretty rocky with me, I read you really scummy early on with your super defensiveness and in newbie mafia that is usually a good tell, however I think I have seen enough from you to let you pass today. Kind of empty, but abuse did claim that he was roleblocked, so this is fair. On August 30 2014 07:09 lilwade wrote:Neutral Superbia - A lot of people disagree with your playstyle but I actually read you as town early on, but the more I filter dive you the more I realize the info you are providing has been way off Already a point many other people claimed, and it's already been answered. Plus I'm a bit iffy here, is the info I'm providing way off? Or are some of my reads way off? There's a difference here. He did have "doubts about the quality of [my] reads" during day 1. On August 30 2014 07:09 lilwade wrote:Scum MihZaaa - being as he hasnt posted anything since my last read I think that justifying him here would be me reiterating myself It's hard to give an opinion on someone who hasn't showed his face ever since. On August 30 2014 07:09 lilwade wrote:Breshke - I do not think I have agreed with you at all lately and I need to go through and read everything from your point of view. Unfulfilled promise. Eh fuck, I just read the last part: On August 30 2014 07:09 lilwade wrote:I know that I have not actually provided quotes to back up my post here, I plan to give full reads with information backing up how I feel but today has just been nonstop and I have class now. I am very sorry I can't do this now. Looking forward to it. Still think vote on MihZaaa is most likely to hit at this point. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
I like, that you don't jump on Breshke and I agree with you, that the little things he contributed today all seem towny. I was on him today aswell, but all he wrote, especially the part about the roles was credible for me. You not jumping on Breshke right now, even though you are in need of another lynch-target, seems to me, like you actually try to solve this game. On lilwade I can fully agree as well. His posts up until now are very null to me or I had mixed feelings about them. Him not answering my followup-questions is annoying as f***. The only thing that prevents me from going at him today is his promise to follow up and his absence. He is the second case of somebody being absent and thereby dodging further investigation by me. Also i can see now, why you didn't mention my answer and point at your previous post. Makes sense, to repeat this and to give a general explanation, since you are not only talking to me, but everybody else. | ||
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
Vote Count – Day 2 Superbia (3): abuse, Barakos, Daydreamarine MihZaaa (3): JennyHell, Breshke, Superbia Not voting (2): lilwade, MihZaaa Currently, Superbia is set to be lynched with 3 votes. As a reminder for resolving ties - a player becomes the new lynch target when that player has more votes than anyone else. Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! Day 2 will end in . | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
As I said, fire away. I'll answer and try not to be too picky. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
2) daydreamarine is as good as confirmed town 3) Jenny was blocked - since this claim would have been too risky, if it was a fake-claim 4) Abuses claim Note: This is also a ranking of credibility from 100% down to ~90% | ||
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
daydreamarine said, he was there and just didn't post. Others might have done the same. This is all speculation, all we know is, who was there. There might have been players present, who haven't posted and there also could have been players absent, who would have wanted to be there - abuse comes to mind here. | ||
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
Breshke did some work today, that put him into my leaning town. you are also not as scummy for me, as you were, when i made my post. | ||
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