I'm so scared that MihZaaa is actually legitimately gone, I don't recall any mafia game where a mafia has gotten scum on them and then didn't post all day. I just don't know any other good trains. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to vote for him because I think he's afk. I still think there's a good chance he's scum. But I think he's legitimately afk, which means that his partner will probably be bussing him.

Barakos

Germany358 Posts

August 30 2014 22:08 GMT

#642

That's exactly why I am not voting him... I may be too lenient, when it comes to this, but being in this game has already changed my stance on killing inactives. I feel I am still cutting them way too much slack. Never thought silence could be as annoying, as it is right now...

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

August 30 2014 22:10 GMT

#643

What will you do if lilwade doesn't show up?

Barakos

Germany358 Posts

August 30 2014 22:11 GMT

#644

But as you said... there is a chance he is legitimately afk, maybe for severe reasons, so he didn't have a chance to announce it here.

Barakos

Germany358 Posts

August 30 2014 22:16 GMT

#645

go hard on him and mihzaaa. wade has been cut slack from everybody, especially jenny. This credit is used up, after tonight, i feel. Jenny is absolutely right. Going into mylo/lylo with blank-reads just wont work.
If we don't get consecutive mafia-lynches and it comes to a do-or-die, i want to be in it with people I have as many sources for reads as possible.
Also on daydreamarine... confirmed town or not. He has shown at some points, that he has the time to participate but just doesn't...
While marine still has to understand, that activity is key to bringing up thoughts about the game, the other two already should know better.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

August 30 2014 22:17 GMT

#646

If we're MyLo tomorrow, roles should out, agreed? At the very least bulletproof.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

August 30 2014 22:20 GMT

#647

Not during the night, obviously.

Barakos

Germany358 Posts

August 30 2014 22:22 GMT

#648

No... especially bulletproof shouldn't out, i feel.
If we go to mylo and no-lynch as jenny suggested, mafia would be given an extra night, by shooting the bulletproof for a nokill and another day in the mylo-scenario.

Barakos

Germany358 Posts

August 30 2014 22:23 GMT

#649

and mylo is better for them, since it is 4/2, while lylo is 3/2

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

August 30 2014 22:27 GMT

#650

If we're in MyLo mafia's job will not be to kill roles, mafia's job will be to win. Mafia will simply block + kill whomever, bypassing the bulletproof, and take the win. The only 1/4 chance of survival will come from the Jailer.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

August 30 2014 22:28 GMT

#651

I'll crunch the numbers once we see what the situation is tomorrow. Granted that I don't get lynched.

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

August 30 2014 22:45 GMT

#652

@superbia
Barakos moved down in my town list because he seemingly gave jenny all this town cred for stuff that i thought didn't really matter like her vote on dook. He is back in my town circle now one of the reasons being this.

gg meatpudding - your death will not be in vain!
This kill... it doesn't make any sense to me.
Going through mps stuff. There has to be something he said, that triggered this kill.
Because I can't believe that superbias promise to dive through any of us was enough to make scum not shoot any of the three of us... we have been reevaluating each other several times now...

There has to be a stronger motive - I'll go digging!

And then when abuse outed that he was blocked

Abuse:
Thanks for sharing the pm with ous - not sure, what to make of it right now, will give it some thought.
I am not sure, if we really should be speculating about powerroles right now, as it is daytime and powerroles don't matter that much.
On the other hand this pm leaves us with 3 possible role-setups. 2 of them include a mafia roleblocker.
This would make the kill on meatpudding way more understandable to me, because if mafia has a roleblocker, they know, that there is either a medic or a jailer in town, which means they have to plan their kills around the possible safes, to ensure a kill.
This would mean, that there is a high likelyhood that they didn't really want to shoot meatpudding, but went for him, as it was a pretty safe bet, that he would not be protected and they would not waste their shot.

I think if he was mafia he could have just not commented on this as i don't think that by this time anyone had brought up this reasoning yet?

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

August 30 2014 22:49 GMT

#653

Thanks for the explanation, Breshke.

I'll be back in around 45m to interact through the rest of the EoD. Would appreciate it if other people interacted in the meanwhile.

Barakos

Germany358 Posts

August 30 2014 23:02 GMT

#654

Are you still here, Breshke?
If so, could you give your impression on what you make of my case on superbia?
I am looking further into it, cause he pointed out, that I was too harsh at one point...
Do you see other things that I might interpret too harsh?

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

August 30 2014 23:14 GMT

#655

Alright I'm back. Is marine around? There's no way abuse will be around tonight, right?

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

August 30 2014 23:14 GMT

#656

I think it is very thought out and no i dont think you are being too harsh. My main problem is that i still see him towny for what happend at the last EoD. Don't you think as mafia he would have put a huge target on his abck by not changing his vote on dook? or maybe he thought this made make him look too flip floppy?

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

August 30 2014 23:24 GMT

#657

From what he has said i don't think its very likely abuse will be around, even if he is i doubt it will be for long.

Barakos

Germany358 Posts

August 30 2014 23:25 GMT

#658

That's exactly the point. He could have kept his vote, to avoid attention and he could have switched his vote, to avoid attention.
Both paths were viable at this moment, so his choice isn't alignment indicative.
If anything I am willing to give him credit for sticking with his instincts, after he made the choice to vote on gobbledydook. Switching would have looked like trying to avoid blame for the misslynch.

and superbia: no, I don't think so... weddings in eastern europe / russia are really big happenings with lots of vodka. I've seen this first hand. He also might point out, that things are likely to get crazy. :D

Barakos

Germany358 Posts

August 30 2014 23:26 GMT

#659

He also pointed out...

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

August 30 2014 23:47 GMT

#660

Breshke, how do you feel about the current lynch options?

I'll ask again, can you guys get a wagon other than me? Or am I too much of a question mark right now?