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On June 17 2014 03:13 slOosh wrote:Hmm, not quite feeling the flaming spears of logic and justice yet. Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 12:46 slOosh wrote:
I can see a somewhat reasonable case to be made that bunnies is not a stellar townie, but I don't see the case being made that she must be scum. Why isn't she "bad" town?
I think my most recent post demonstrates that 27nb's attention is drawn towards statements about her, rather than incriminating things I say-- even a bad townie would naturally respond to me saying things like "I lied to decieve town because I thought I could get away with it", whereas scum regardless of badness would naturally respond to me saying kenpachi rule but NOT respond to additional evidence. It's not a matter of skill, it's a matter of mindset. A townie, even a new townie (I remember being one), when thyey have a scumread on someone and that person does something really scummy, they RESPOND to it. they add it to their case. It's the natural thought process of a town player REGARDLESS of skill.
27nb is not showing this natural thought process. Look at her responses to my posts. Is she responding to things I say that are scummy or inconsistent and pointing out their inconsistency? Or is she just shouting about my first post whenever she gets the chance, and not actually trying to convince people to lynch me based on new evidence that emerges? A townie who was really tunnelled on me would LOVE to point out new scummy things I say, because he's still trying to formulate and develop a case. 27nb is always talking about me, sure, but look at WHAT she's responding to. Not the stuff a townie would.
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On June 17 2014 03:36 slOosh wrote:
Alright YKZ - the million dollar question. What's your read on Artanis?
Townie, for this post:
On June 17 2014 00:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Snickers, you mentioned that you felt Release made a good post before, now you accuse him of twisting your words to hurt you. What's your overall read on him?
If he were scum and just trying to get a counterwagon rolling he wouldn't ask a nuanced question on someone's changing opinion of his push target. The case on Release isn't good, obviously, but the follow-up indicates town mindset. You don't see scum making a post like this.
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On June 17 2014 14:15 goodkarma wrote:I know BH can get busy etc., but given that he has literally done nothing but tunnel one player at this point using a rather baseless argument, I believe he's playing more to his scumgame than his towngame. As such, he earns my vote.: ##Vote: YouKnowZhouYouKnowZhou doesn't seem very interested in figuring out other players, YouKnowZhou doesn't seem to care about literally anything but jumping at ninja repeatedly with the same argument, YouKnowZhou is scum by his own argument.: Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 03:22 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 17 2014 03:13 slOosh wrote:Hmm, not quite feeling the flaming spears of logic and justice yet. On June 16 2014 12:46 slOosh wrote:
I can see a somewhat reasonable case to be made that bunnies is not a stellar townie, but I don't see the case being made that she must be scum. Why isn't she "bad" town? I think my most recent post demonstrates that 27nb's attention is drawn towards statements about her, rather than incriminating things I say-- even a bad townie would naturally respond to me saying things like "I lied to decieve town because I thought I could get away with it", whereas scum regardless of badness would naturally respond to me saying kenpachi rule but NOT respond to additional evidence. It's not a matter of skill, it's a matter of mindset. A townie, even a new townie (I remember being one), when thyey have a scumread on someone and that person does something really scummy, they RESPOND to it. they add it to their case. It's the natural thought process of a town player REGARDLESS of skill. 27nb is not showing this natural thought process. Look at her responses to my posts. Is she responding to things I say that are scummy or inconsistent and pointing out their inconsistency? Or is she just shouting about my first post whenever she gets the chance, and not actually trying to convince people to lynch me based on new evidence that emerges? A townie who was really tunnelled on me would LOVE to point out new scummy things I say, because he's still trying to formulate and develop a case. 27nb is always talking about me, sure, but look at WHAT she's responding to. Not the stuff a townie would. In short, YKZ holds ninja to be scum because ninja didn't evolve her case, while YKZ really hasn't evolved his... It's still about Kenpachi rule, and he holds ninja to a different standard than he is holding himself. A standard which makes her scum while he somehow is not...
First off Kenpachi rule clearly doesn't apply to me since 27nb hasn't claimed VT and Kenpachi Rule Extended doesn't apply either since I've addressed her continuing filter (and her continuing non-addressal of my filter). Secondly I tunnel who I want, when I want, and there's nothing you or anyone else can do to stop my tunnelling. Stop your so-called "thought process" for a moment here and think about this possibility: 27nb is scum. Why would I devote my time to all you guys silly cases on people like artanis or Release-- oh wait, I already did that, and pointed out my reads, and hey, looks like 27nb is STILL SCUM.
I'd like you to take a moment to contemplate what you're saying here. You're saying that I, YKZ (supposedly Blazinghand) am tunnelling someone, and that the fact that I'm monomaniacally focused on my target indicates that I am... wait for it... scum?
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You forget the real situation, which is that I'm monomaniacally focused on my target because my target is in fact scum.. Put yourself in my shoes. You have caught scum. Who are you gonna vote? Are you gonna vote, push on, and develop your case on scum? Or are you gonna do something useless and awful? Well, many people call me useless and awful, but I'm not. Instead of being useless and awful, I'm voting 27nb and have shown that 27nb's continued mindset was in fact indicative of a scum alignment. So... I'm still voting 27nb. Would you look at that, my logic makes sense, unlike the logic of, say, illogical people. Now, you are a logical person, GK. I know this because you and me, we're like *this* (makes gesture). So as a logical person, I want you to take a look at how I play as scum (you've known my scum play well) and how I play as town, and realize that the logical side is my side.
I will say that I still have to digest 27nb's back-off in response to the lynch on her getting traction. It seems like such an obviously scummy move that it almost falls into "too scummy to be scum" territory, though of course such territory is meaningless anyways. I can't get why she'd do this as scum, except of course to make me think that thought. I'll sleep on it, I suppose.
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On June 17 2014 14:42 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 14:22 Snickers wrote:
I think i have been posting a lot.
I am also surprised you chose to vote YKZ rather than Release. Your two posts prior to your vote posts were leaning towards him. Is it normal in mafia games for the votes to be spread like this? Barring that someone jumps up and down screaming he/she's scum, yes there's generally some degree of vote distribution. And that's where consolidating becomes key to help prevent the sway of scum influence on the vote and produce as much information as possible. And while I, and I am sure several others here, are more than happy to answer questions such as this one they're better suited for asking a coach in a newbie game. Here, they're just going to distract from whatever you have to say and fluff your filter, so I would urge you to use them sparingly and only when you absolutely need to know something you can't find out from somewhere like mafiascum.net wiki. I do believe that there's a decent chance Release could be scum. However, unlike YKZ he's willing to come in and answer questions. He's continuing to post and and YKZ is not. It doesn't sit very well with me seeing him voting for the same guy I am, but association based deductions day one is not something I can realistically do. Independent of everything else YKZ is looking scummier to me right now than Release. Therefore he gets my vote.
wtf, I answer like every question, even the "million dollar question" Probably like at least 10% of my freaking filter is dealing with the inane questions of hopeless proles who are begging for my time. believe it or not, GK, I was not placed into this game to serve you. I am not a servant. I am not a slave. I am not an indentured servant who is working off the debt he accrued paying for his passage to the "new world". No, I'm Blazinghand, the best player on TL Mafia, Claimer Extraordinary and Intelligent, He Who Doesn't Always Make Cases, But When He Does He Doesn't, The Catcher of the Three, The RNG Lyncher of Odin. Can you mess with those titles?
You can't, that's right. So if you want me to answer your alleged "questions" or respond to your so-called "posts" you'll need to do better than that. Actually, I guess you wouldn't need to do better than this post, since I am in fact responding to it, but you get the idea. I've written the best, most coherent case in this entire thread. There are nations that bow down before me (metaphorically speaking) because of the amazing case I've written on 27nb. In fact, GK, why aren't you answering my questions, huh? Oh, that's right, I guess I didn't ask any. Well, fair enough, you win this round. But the point I'm getting at is: My filter stands for itself and my positions stand for themselves. 27nb has done nothing, I repeat, nothing to make me think that she is town this game, except maybe back off of me in a weird way.
As far as I can see, I see no reason not to lynch her, and as far as I can see, I don't see why you don't see a reason not to lynch her.
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On June 17 2014 15:42 goodkarma wrote:
And the Artanis comment I suppose is an opinion, but one I'd argue doesn't really say much about his alignment.
you could argue that, but you would be wrong. Also, you want to unvote me, trust me. Just gimme a day and I'll fulfill all your wildest dreams
good night sweet prince
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I'm back, and I'm caught up. I see that people are voting mderg. I'll read the cases and weigh in. I'd also like to float the idea of an Oatsmaster lynch. I love the guy like a son, but he's lurking, son. Take a look at his filter so far:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/458796-normal-mini-mafia-lvi?user=Oatsmaster
Now you might say, "YKZ, as far as I can tell, Oats has not in fact posted at all this game. What if he's just afk?" Well, he could just be afk. I'm willing to admit that. But on the other hand, what if he is both AFK and scum? IMO we can't trust Kurumi to modkill him, given Kurumi's track record on modkills that I don't actually know anything about. And even worse, what if Kurumi replaces him? Yes, that would be the worst by far. Can we really trust Oatsmaster? No, we can't. His silence is speaking for him. It is saying "I am possibly a pretty good lynch u guyz"
But yeah gonna check out mderg since people seem to have a million boners for lynching him I guess. anyone got questions for me? I'll answer any question as long as it's coupled with a summary of the case on mderg.
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I still do not understand the mderg case. Can someone explain succinctly for me?
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On June 18 2014 05:22 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 05:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 18 2014 04:53 slOosh wrote:
Artanis, could I have updated thoughts on bunnies / YKZ? YKZ: No idea, it's BH. Leaning scum on bunnies. Not sure if I want to vote bunnies or mderg. I don't like both bunnies and ykz's reason for townreading me but bunnies seems a lot more set on it for shaky grounds. Also don't like how she keeps pushing the unflipped associations thing, saying it's because of video mafia even though she's played a decent amount of forum mafia since then. Mderg is mostly a case of adding nothing to the conversation. That he thought my case made sense but didn't comment on goodkarma's much better post is something I don't understand either. I'm actually happy that Lazer stepped up to defend him because a lynch without opposition is generally bad for town. I don't think it's likely mafia would roll over and die with such a relatively inactive town that they'll just throw away a member on D1. I could lynch either of them atm. Ehh I've been leaning against YKZ the whole time. He brought up Oats as a possible lurker lynch when people were considering mderg, and his "what's this mderg stuff about" looks like he wants other people to talk about it more, but isn't interested in bringing it up himself. Furthermore, there's no actual effort to convince people that bunnies is scum and we should be lynching her. His whole D1 gambit was to catch bunnies, and he already gave up on it.
I didn't give up on it, it's 100% solid based on kenpachi rule and kenpachi rule extended. The fact that you guys don't believe in kenpachi rule extended doesn't make it wrong, it just makes you wrong. I'm not unvoting bunnies, and in the end you'll all apologize for being so wrong, or thank me for my leadership. One way or another, I'll be victorious and my notoriety will only increase. Long live kenpachi
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On June 18 2014 05:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Hi Koshi. ##Vote KoshiReplacements have been overwhelmingly mafia as of late. Plus I'm still salty from Cell I. Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 05:22 slOosh wrote:On June 18 2014 05:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 18 2014 04:53 slOosh wrote:
Artanis, could I have updated thoughts on bunnies / YKZ? YKZ: No idea, it's BH. Leaning scum on bunnies. Not sure if I want to vote bunnies or mderg. I don't like both bunnies and ykz's reason for townreading me but bunnies seems a lot more set on it for shaky grounds. Also don't like how she keeps pushing the unflipped associations thing, saying it's because of video mafia even though she's played a decent amount of forum mafia since then. Mderg is mostly a case of adding nothing to the conversation. That he thought my case made sense but didn't comment on goodkarma's much better post is something I don't understand either. I'm actually happy that Lazer stepped up to defend him because a lynch without opposition is generally bad for town. I don't think it's likely mafia would roll over and die with such a relatively inactive town that they'll just throw away a member on D1. I could lynch either of them atm. Ehh I've been leaning against YKZ the whole time. He brought up Oats as a possible lurker lynch when people were considering mderg, and his "what's this mderg stuff about" looks like he wants other people to talk about it more, but isn't interested in bringing it up himself. Furthermore, there's no actual effort to convince people that bunnies is scum and we should be lynching her. His whole D1 gambit was to catch bunnies, and he already gave up on it. You've cited nothing that discerns scum BH from town BH. He loves policy and he overexaggerates his opinion to get people lynched. He stopped trying to convince people to lynch bunnies because he no longer believed that when he stopped doing that. The gambit on catching bunnies can be from either alignment, I'm not sure what you're drawing from that.
Where's bunnies right now, when we have more stuff to discuss? Sure, I'm not engaging the thread and talking about mderg (though nobody wants to summarise mderg stuff for me and I'm too lazy/busy at dinner to deal with it right now) but 27nb is conveniently gone! Yes, 27nb who could only think about my first post, who kenpachi rule, then kenpachi rule extended so hard, that if 27nb is scum you would all have to admit that kenpachi rule is the best policy. And yet here we are, with no votes on 27nb, and you know why? It's because you are weak. You are afraid, you don't trust the kenpachi rule. I understand, it's scary to put your faith in a rule. But when it comes down to it, kenpachi rule WORKS. Historically. People dislike the kenpachi rule, but try finding a better method of lynching people D1. RNG might cut it, but not in a game like this with a single faction.
The only thing you can trust on D1 is Kenpachi Rule in a game like this imo
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On June 18 2014 05:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh wait, you're still voting bunnies?
Yes, and I will only ever unvote if absolutely necessary to avoid some kind of awful lynch. That being said, as the shenannigan king I feel obligated to read about the cases and be ready for shenannies. I forgot to mention, the only thing better than certain policy lynch are shenannies, which have like a 67% success ratio on D1 for some reason. So I will bring the shenannies, if necessary, to save the day. Priority #1 though is 27nb. What has 27nb done that's been remotely useful all game? Nothing (though I'm too lazy to reread her filter to see). Look at that unvote on me when she realizes I can beat her 1 on 1? Look at that. Now, if you're town and you see scum rallying votes against you, do you just like unvote? Hell no. You double down, ratchet up the pressure, and go all in, so to speak. And yet here she is bailing under the pressure, and she even says "I know this won't stop the votes on me" to make the votes on her stop. A brilliant ploy, and you all got suckered by it.
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27nb is not in fact the most active player in this game and has not contributed, despite making many posts. I'm going through her posts 1 by 1 and showing why.
kpr = kenpachi rule or kenpachi rule extended applies
odr = only a direct response to a mention, not new info
lcp = low or no content post, or post providing rules or jargon info
def = defense post
a2a = asking someone else about a post already written, or asking for a reply
rep = reply to a direct question
aug = adding new info about new posts to an existing case
ogi = original info, case, or line of questioning
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22363732 joke
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22363775 asking about vt claim (kpr)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22363812 kpr ogi
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22363825 kpr
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22363828 kpr
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22363881 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22363953 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22363963 def
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22363979 a2a
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364070 kpr
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364138 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364203 lcp def
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364205 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364250 a2a
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364269 def
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364275 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364313 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364322 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364345 def
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364353 def
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364387 def
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364398 rep
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364439 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364462 kpr rep
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22364535 def rep
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22365083 rep ogi - but the original info she posts is "Snickers could be town or mafia" which isn't really much of a case imo
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22365086 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22369105 a2a
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22369141 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22369238 def
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22370427 rep about associations. kpr rep @lazer
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22370830 def a2a aug - after I call her out, she addresses a very small portion of my filter beyond the first post.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22370988 def
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22371000 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22371135 def
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22371207 ogi talking about associative tells
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22371224 def
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22371287 def
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22371536 ogi says I'm town for reading artanis as town, unvotes me
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22371652 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22371923 rep aug about how I'm town
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22373297 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22374269 a2a not clear what about
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22374392 lcp martyring
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22374405 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22374919 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22374933 ogi "artanis is town" almost no explanation
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22375435 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22375865 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22376936 lcp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22377612 ogi "release is town" no explanation
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22378272 lcp
The vast, vast majority of 27nb's posts fall into one of 3 categories:
1. defenses and direct replies to people questioning her
2. attacks that fall under the kenpachi rule or kenpachi rule extended
3. super low content posts just hanging out, chatting, etc.
The posts that 27nb has written that state direct opinions or add new info are these, and this is including kenpachi rule posts:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22363775 asking about vt claim (kpr)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22363812 kpr ogi
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22365083 rep ogi - but the original info she posts is "Snickers could be town or mafia" which isn't really much of a case imo
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22370427 rep about associations. kpr rep @lazer
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22370830 def a2a aug - after I call her out, she addresses a very small portion of my filter beyond the first post.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22371207 ogi talking about associative tells
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22371536 ogi says I'm town for reading artanis as town, unvotes me
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22371923 rep aug about how I'm town
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22374933 ogi "artanis is town" almost no explanation
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22377612 ogi "release is town" no explanation
Looks like a lot of posts, right? But most of these are about associative tells, or are calling people town with little or NO explanation, or are pushing me (kenpachi rule), or backtracking that push when she realizes she'll get lynched for it. if yout ake out the parts about associative tells, which are worthless, you get:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22363775 asking about vt claim (kpr)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22363812 kpr ogi
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22365083 rep ogi - but the original info she posts is "Snickers could be town or mafia" which isn't really much of a case imo
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22370830 def a2a aug - after I call her out, she addresses a very small portion of my filter beyond the first post.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22371536 ogi says I'm town for reading artanis as town, unvotes me
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22371923 rep aug about how I'm town
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22374933 ogi "artanis is town" almost no explanation
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22377612 ogi "release is town" no explanation
So basically 27nb calls me scum, then unvotes me when things go south, and calls artanis and release town without a good explanation. It's not the worst d1 filter (oatsmaster is the worst) but the fact of the matter is, people are calling 27nb active and townie for having 4 pages of no-content posts and direct responses to questions, or open-ended questions she doesn't follow up. She never pushed on the rest of my fitler, she never made a real, good scumread case, and even now she doesn't have a vote down.
You're confusing posting and spamming for activity. I know you do this, because as scum it's my biggest strength: i post a lot of bullcrap and flood the thread with it and people think "BH is an active player, working hard, etc" even though I'm scum. 27nb is trying to pull the same trick this game, but it won't work, because you can't pull that trick on the master. In terms of word count, I probably have her beat even with 1/4 the posts, and for "useful input count" i have her beat EASILY because I actually have a case out. A good case.
A case on 27nb that grows stronger.
DO NOT BE AFRAID OF HER FILTER. IT IS LONG BUT EMPTY.
look. She's trying to fool us. Don't let it happen. Vote 27nb.
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Look guys, when it comes down to it, 27nb has not in fact done anything meaningful. Is she responsible for just over 3 of our 18 pages? Sure, she is. I'm willing to admit it: 27nb represents nearly 20% of the times people hit the "post" button in this game.
Lesser people are daunted by such a large filter, but I am not. I am Blazinghand, the best player on TL Mafia, Claimer Extraordinary and Intelligent, He Who Doesn't Always Make Cases, But When He Does He Doesn't, The Catcher of the Three, The RNG Lyncher of Odin. Diving such a filter is a paltry task, and when it comes down to it, let me assure you: 27nb has written next to nothing.
She pushed me, unpushed me, then made no scumreads, talked vaguely about associative tells, and threw out a town/null read or two. That's it. Her filter is meaningless, she has done nothing, pushed nothing, taken no stances. We have to lynch her, it is NECESSARY because it is JUSTICE. Lynch 27nb. Kenpachi understands.
Lynch her not just for kenpachi, but for her filter, which I have summarized for you. Lynch her for not giving reads, for not contributing, hell, or not developing her case on me AT ALL. Lynch for putting up the facsimile of a townie but not actually hunting scum. 27nb's filter isn't the filter of an active townie, it's a simulacrum of a filter of an active townie.
Read it, and the illusion shatters.
Lynch her.
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On June 18 2014 08:54 Lazermonkey wrote:
There isn't super much to be said. Bunnies has been active. I read YKZ's post about how Bunnies's post in reality wasn't good. I don't agree with it. If we would have such high standard as YKZ has then there are more players that should be regarded as very scummy. Such as mderp and VE...
My entire post is about how Bunnies has not in fact actually done anything with that activity. Also, Kenpachi Rule.
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Well, that didn't go well. I think we all know who is at fault here, even if it was an honest mistake. I think it's important to remember that anyone can be wrong, and can screw up, even if they're trying to do their best, and we all make mistakes, right guys? No need to go finger-pointing here, so I'll start off with an apology. On behalf of 27nb, who can't post in the thread any more, I apologize for playing like scum and getting lynched D1.
I don't think we need to continue blaming 27nb, the sole party at fault for this mislynch, because that wouldn't be productive. Let's move forwards and do our best to win, despite the massively scummy town play from 27nb.
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You can tell Chezinu is town when he's actually giving reads and enjoying himself, as opposed to being withdrawn. Most of what he says is noise, but how he says it-- that's the signal.
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Been tied up with dinner. K 'll bedone with dinner in about twelve hours.
You have forgotten a situation besides sloosh scum for gk kill. That situation is that scum is super amazingly astoundingly bad and incompetent. In fact I think we can confidently say that the scumteam this game is super low tier in terms of intelligence, knowledge, and competence. They are laughable and honestly I'm ashamed of even posting in the same thread as these chuckleheads. Honestly they are just idiots. They didn't even rb me. It's sad, or at least it would be, if it were not so funny.
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Yup. I don't have time for anything else honesty. Dinner time
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I'm a vanilla town but this fact sound have been non obvious to the scrum team. They happened to be correct not to rb me but they did it for the wrong reasons. Hence idiots. I happened to be incorrect about nb but my reasons are solid. Hence I am a God
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EPT
