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@strongandbig:
The disable/swap occurs during night action resolution.
I think this means that someone using an item as a night action would be blocked
Other horse claims were geript (famine) and vayneauthority (war), both their powers feel like they fit to me.
It's possible that VE's role information was misinforming him as to the alignment of the other horses, but I feel like it's a relatively good case to see them as town aligned.
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I dunno if you doubt sandroba/JAT you could let JAT kill sandroba and then lynch JAT if he doesn't disappear from the game. Give me items first though :3
I could steal from sandroba too, since that might helps me and you guys.
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On April 18 2014 11:30 Amiko wrote:
@strongandbig:
I think there's probably only one scum alive because if there were two they could have won, I think?
With just their votes they could have gotten second-place in the votes and secured a mislynch.
Then, it is either 3scum, 4town, 1 third party (me). Even if they get no kills, with my vote they can always get 4 votes on a person.
I guess it might also be 3scum, 3town, 2 third party (me + JAT), but then it's even more of a victory, they would lynch sandro.
Either way, scum has a good shot to win in that situation by getting a night kill and then joint-winning with me/JAT.
You don't take into account that the other mafia could not coordinate with VE. Besides that they would have outed themselves if they pulled this kind of stunt and if anything went wrong (for example with the nightkills) then they are fucked.
On April 18 2014 11:39 Amiko wrote:
It's probably from JAT actually
The role PM says pretty clearly that the other horses are on a different team so they are town
This is good since it confirms VA as town :3
1) I don't think the hosts would not censor information like this if it really confirmed VA and geript as town.
2) Again, take into account that VE technically wasn't on the scumteam.
On April 18 2014 21:43 strongandbig wrote:
Thought blast - ve's role seems really stupid unless one of the other horses is also mafia. What is the point of an unrecruitablr traitor rolecop?
This makes sense!
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I guess that's possible, since VE didn't talk or vote maybe there were two and they didn't know if VE would actually show up to help them.
It's possible another horse is mafia but I think the important thing for ve's purposes is that at least one or more of the other horses have an ability that is useful to mafia. Gumshoe had kp so that's straight up useful... I guess the other powers seem less directly useful but still useful.
JAT I can't confirm whether you shot at me but let's say I think you shot someone else, is your preference that I item swap?
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Well, I won't be able to benifit from it tonight but why not?
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On April 09 2014 10:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
Btw there is a rat in your circlejerk and it is possibly WoS. Anyone part of that circlejerk should consider this when communicating with him.
If anyone has reason to believe WoS is 100% town speak now.
Va what was your reasoning behind this claim that there was a rat in our circle?
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On April 19 2014 02:09 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2014 10:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
Btw there is a rat in your circlejerk and it is possibly WoS. Anyone part of that circlejerk should consider this when communicating with him.
If anyone has reason to believe WoS is 100% town speak now. Va what was your reasoning behind this claim that there was a rat in our circle?
bluffing, was trying to get a read on WoS among other things. It's why I didnt ever come back to that, its fake.
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Ok, I have 2 questions for all of you.
1) Does anyone know Sandros role even in the slightest?
2) Does anyone have an explanation for why he did not die when I used the ruby on him day2? You can see what the ruby does in Dandels rolepm.
If you don't want to give me information that's cool. A simple yes/no would be great too.
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Here's all I know about his role. If he didn't want me to share it he should've continued to play the game.
- He can deal 0.5kp each night, or 1kp to anyone who's role is a dragon.
- He can somehow increase chaos to gain himself extra powers - he used this once to get an extra point in bulletproofness, which he lost the same night (I think?) but he doesn't know what those powers will be
I wanted him to claim his night actions so he would claim who he targeted with those 0.5 kps, because they haven't been doing anything as far as i could tell. ofc he spent some night actions using items.
I don't have a good explanation of how he survived your ruby shot. Someone gave him a fire extinguisher in the QT. But it doesn't look like the ruby sets anyone on fire. If sandroba's telling the truth about his role and he's a dragon slayer type person, maybe he's immune to fire? but idk
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Presumably if dandel had hatched he would've become the third party planar dragon? And maybe joined the scumteam? but it seems like there are no dragons in the game at the start so it's weird that sandroba would be able to kill them.
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Sounds pretty questionable. Why didn't he just kill me then (2 x 0.5 KP)? The ruby is as far as I know just a plain and simple normal KP. It should have been instant too since I used it during the day.
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Considering that he did fuck all since day2 I think everyone with a townread on him should really start to reevaluate.
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And if you come to the same conclusion then it might be in towns best interest to just let me shoot him. You can remove my KP this way without having to waste a lynch on me and you are also getting rid of a question mark that won't be resolved since sandro already announced that he won't be playing.
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one thing is, on the night with no kp all of the medic protects and protective items were coordinated through our qt except paperscraps and robick. so that makes me feel like there wasn't scum in the qt.
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Like, geript I know you are suspicious of sandro yourself. If you rb me you only block a shot if I am 3P since if I was scum then there would definitely be another one who would carry out the KP then. If I am 3P I am telling the truth though and have no reason to shoot anyone but Sandro if I see a chance to actually kill him.
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On April 19 2014 07:37 strongandbig wrote:
one thing is, on the night with no kp all of the medic protects and protective items were coordinated through our qt except paperscraps and robick. so that makes me feel like there wasn't scum in the qt.
But that night came with the prince of darkness power so I don't know if that is indicative of anything.
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Also what if Paper and Robik were the reasons there were no kills? I don't know how many other options there were but that sounds pretty reasonable to me. Sandro probably didn't soak KP since his ring didn't ever break.
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also @amiko on second thought I'd prefer it if you didn't do your item shuffle thing, but instead stole from one of the following list of people: killing, va, paperscraps, jat.
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I have no items so you should probably steal from JAT or VA because scraps is town.
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