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On April 08 2014 04:47 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 04:44 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2014 04:41 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
look it's irrelevant you know what i am
i'm a blue dimensional lemming and i changed it to a pm game? why would i claim a role that was traditionally a mafia role in the thread if i wasn't town that would just be retarded How is that retarded? because i wouldn't know that powers can be any alignment this game if im scum so i'd assume it would be a mafia power if i was mafia.......... as i only checked the mafia awards and it said it was a mafia role Wait, what? Why is what you did, "Hey guys I'm softhard claiming dimensional lemming" retarded to do as mafia? i've never seen dimensional lemming in a game before so the only knowledge i have is that it's a mafia role (if i was mafia) and also the fact that i checked the awards thread where lemming was voted best mafia role. So there is no knowledge that lemming COULD be town in this game so there is 0% chance that i would risk claiming lemming this game if i was mafia at the start of the game onwards, that's why it would be retarded (to me at least)
I don't buy it.
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On April 08 2014 04:50 Koshi wrote:
why we care so much about HF. His list looks pretty good.
He is not lynch material except if he stole this list from people who were going to bring this list public really soonish and HF just posted it fast for town cred.
I am lynching many peoples on the list before HF tbh.
So you believe his bullshit?
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On April 08 2014 04:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 04:52 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 04:47 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2014 04:44 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2014 04:41 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
look it's irrelevant you know what i am
i'm a blue dimensional lemming and i changed it to a pm game? why would i claim a role that was traditionally a mafia role in the thread if i wasn't town that would just be retarded How is that retarded? because i wouldn't know that powers can be any alignment this game if im scum so i'd assume it would be a mafia power if i was mafia.......... as i only checked the mafia awards and it said it was a mafia role Wait, what? Why is what you did, "Hey guys I'm softhard claiming dimensional lemming" retarded to do as mafia? i've never seen dimensional lemming in a game before so the only knowledge i have is that it's a mafia role (if i was mafia) and also the fact that i checked the awards thread where lemming was voted best mafia role. So there is no knowledge that lemming COULD be town in this game so there is 0% chance that i would risk claiming lemming this game if i was mafia at the start of the game onwards, that's why it would be retarded (to me at least) SO HERE'S WHY I ASK You were softhard claiming this on D1. A bunch. This is a 30 person game. 29 of the people are NOT YOU. And the ENTIRE time you're doing this, how many people said "dimensional lemming was a mafia role last time, therefore HF is mafia." I believe the answer is 0. If it's higher, it's like 1-2 max. You have straight up evidence from this game that people don't just connect a role that's been mafia once to being mafia always. How can you think it would be otherwise? You can't honestly say it's retarded and people would think this when you KNOW they don't, because THEY JUST DIDN'T. yes that's fine to say when it's already happened but if i'm mafia why would i think they would agree that it's not alignment indicative if the only evidence is that it's only been a scum role!?
I think you knew they would agree. People aren't stupid.
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On April 08 2014 05:32 Killing wrote:If people have the same win cond as me, I want to work with them. If they don't, then I want to lynch them. Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
The list!
1. Keirathi
2. Djodref - likely modkill
3. Holyflare
4.Tehpoofter
5. Koshi
6. raynpelikoneet
7. marvellosity
8. Dandel Ion
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
11. kitaman27
12. Oatsmaster
13. strongandbig
14. VisceraEyes
15. austinmcc - from multiple sources outside
16. Amiko
17. Hopeless1der
18. justanothertownie - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
19. WaveofShadow
20. LSB
21. Paperscraps - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
22. Killing
23. Foolishness
24. VayneAuthority
25. Palmar
26. yamato77
27. IAmRobik
28. sandroba
29. gumshoe
30. Blazinghand
I'm pretty good with that list except: 1. I'm not town on austin but I don't have the info that you claim to have. 2. I'm not town on snb, I don't really have a good read on him. I can't even recall a lot of what he has said, hasn't really stuck out. 3. Same with WoS but I'm leaning town on him. 4. I'm not town on HF but the going full crazy over blue green reads townie to me imo. If I was mafia, I wouldn't argue about color for 3 pages. 5. Paperscraps could be colored as green. I've probably spoken to him the most during the pm phase. Rest is coool
HF is going crazy cause he has been caught. It's not voluntarily.
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On April 08 2014 05:35 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 05:32 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 05:28 Killing wrote:On April 08 2014 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
Can I stop spamming about this and......Oats and Killing and someone read this and give thoughts? Oats, Killing, VA! My thoughts: Who gives a shit about the color of my role. No, different thoughts. If you don't think anyone should give a shit about the color of a role, then do Holyflare's thoughts and actions make sense to you as coming from a townie? Do they make sense as coming from a scum? Do they make sense as scum slipping and trying to cover up that slip? Do they just not make sense period? As posted above, I think it's probably coming from a townie POV. As scum, it's probably a bad idea to argue over semantics and make yourself look bad. I think there's probably a reasoning over the difference in coloring the role but not one that is currently visible to the town nor the one that HF is proposing. It's townie to trying and figure it out though. If he was mafia, anyone that wins with town is his enemy anyways so he probably wouldn't care much. The only way it would be a good play as mafia is if he's trying to drum up paranoia or some shit but it doesn't make any sense.
He didn't bring that up to talk about it. He was forced to because what he says doesn't add up.
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On April 08 2014 05:39 strongandbig wrote:
austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum
break down the scenario for me
like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that?
How I see this:
HolyFlare didn't know how a town rolepm looked like. He was called out for that, paniced and came up with this ridiculous explanation of how he thought he was 3p and all the other people who flipped blue too because he felt caught.
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Just listen to austin he gets it.
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On April 08 2014 06:32 austinmcc wrote:I'd kill Killing. Townies defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but this case is different because of x, y, z" or "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but I think these other things he's done are townie, and overall he's townie." Scum defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but scum don't like being scummy, so him doing a scummy thing makes him town." (BECAUSE HOLY CRAP THE MOMENT YOU MAKE THAT ARGUMENT ONCE, EVERYONE IN THE GAME EVER WHO DOES SCUMMY STUFF IS KINDA TOWN IN YOUR BOOK AND THAT MAKES NO SENSE) Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 12:05 Killing wrote:On April 03 2014 11:59 sandroba wrote:
I don't think any button discussion is going to get us anywhere. How about we see what people decide to do and talk about it when it becomes relevant? My initial guess is most of us don't want CATASTROPHE in our lives right now. You're assuming the catastrophe will be town specific. It's possible that it makes the game harder for mafia and 3p at the same time. I think we also have to put some value on the button. We need to know how important it is to have it guarded or try to deactivate it compared to using our town powers. It might be that it's better to have weaker roles guard the button rather than carry out their business. If we don't make a plan to deal with the button, mafia might just make a rush for it if they assume the consequences will fall on the town side. Here, Killing is of the mindset that perhaps that Catastrophe is good for town. This is true, we don't know what the Catastrophe is, and whether it's good or bad. Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 08:48 Killing wrote:On April 07 2014 08:47 Hopeless1der wrote:On April 07 2014 08:45 Dandel Ion wrote:On April 07 2014 08:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
I dunno, I pushed the button zz did you forget that was an option? I need CATASTROPHE™ to occur if I'm going to make any money. So you're not town......... Here, Hopeless is not town because he wants Catastrophe to happen. Implying that Catastrophe is bad for town only. Which is the opposite of the above. We have learned nothing about Catastrophe, are entirely unsure what it does. Killing argues that it MIGHT be beneficial to town, perhaps, but then that Hopeless is scum for wanting it to happen.
Yeah, I retract my townread.
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Austin stop giving him the chance to make this a shitfest. People will only mistakenly townread him for that.
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On April 08 2014 06:45 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 06:43 justanothertownie wrote:On April 08 2014 06:32 austinmcc wrote:I'd kill Killing. Townies defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but this case is different because of x, y, z" or "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but I think these other things he's done are townie, and overall he's townie." Scum defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but scum don't like being scummy, so him doing a scummy thing makes him town." (BECAUSE HOLY CRAP THE MOMENT YOU MAKE THAT ARGUMENT ONCE, EVERYONE IN THE GAME EVER WHO DOES SCUMMY STUFF IS KINDA TOWN IN YOUR BOOK AND THAT MAKES NO SENSE) On April 03 2014 12:05 Killing wrote:On April 03 2014 11:59 sandroba wrote:
I don't think any button discussion is going to get us anywhere. How about we see what people decide to do and talk about it when it becomes relevant? My initial guess is most of us don't want CATASTROPHE in our lives right now. You're assuming the catastrophe will be town specific. It's possible that it makes the game harder for mafia and 3p at the same time. I think we also have to put some value on the button. We need to know how important it is to have it guarded or try to deactivate it compared to using our town powers. It might be that it's better to have weaker roles guard the button rather than carry out their business. If we don't make a plan to deal with the button, mafia might just make a rush for it if they assume the consequences will fall on the town side. Here, Killing is of the mindset that perhaps that Catastrophe is good for town. This is true, we don't know what the Catastrophe is, and whether it's good or bad. On April 07 2014 08:48 Killing wrote:On April 07 2014 08:47 Hopeless1der wrote:On April 07 2014 08:45 Dandel Ion wrote:On April 07 2014 08:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
I dunno, I pushed the button zz did you forget that was an option? I need CATASTROPHE™ to occur if I'm going to make any money. So you're not town......... Here, Hopeless is not town because he wants Catastrophe to happen. Implying that Catastrophe is bad for town only. Which is the opposite of the above. We have learned nothing about Catastrophe, are entirely unsure what it does. Killing argues that it MIGHT be beneficial to town, perhaps, but then that Hopeless is scum for wanting it to happen. Yeah, I retract my townread. on killing?
Yes.
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On April 08 2014 07:11 Koshi wrote:
Who killed BH btw?
It's not that it is the worst kill but I think there could be better targets. was it Oats?
You need to read, dude.
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On April 07 2014 23:58 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 23:30 strongandbig wrote:
sadroba was that the dayvig I gave you that killed bh?
oats I'll PM you but you know you could also pm me if you wanted o talks about something.
yes.
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On April 08 2014 08:30 iamperfection wrote:
i think Syllogism might be mafia
You don't say!
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Sorry buddy, but you are crazy 
##Ruby: sandroba
Everything I said was genuine.
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What did you bastards do to save sandro How am I supposed to win like that?
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On April 08 2014 10:07 Holyflare wrote:
yeh that's -1 jat then, standard list of awesome wins games
I am not scum. You should concentrate on other people.
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Yes, but not a lynch towards town wincon right now.
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No, I am not. The goodbye message was there because I naively hoped that I had won. If Sandro died you wouldn't have to deal with me.
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