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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 05 2014 16:45 GMT
#921
Rayn,

if you're town calling me maf, you're going to be very embarrassed at the end of the game. I'm posting openly and freely (although to be fair a tiny bit less than last game) regarding all of my opinions. I think Killing COULD be mafia, but setting up a situation where we are mafia together is pretty scummy (cause, like, I'm town, and like whatnot).
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
March 05 2014 16:48 GMT
#922
As I said before, in video mafia, GGtemplar only goes into his crazy plans/theories when he's town. It's possible that he has done that in forum mafia but I've never seen it from him in forum mafia. Even after that post, everything I've read from him I could read in his town voice. I guess I can kind of read him differently that how I can everyone else in this game.

Rayn

You've honestly been just a shit poster for me this entire game. All you do is mostly call people terrible, tell them their reads are terrible or just plain disagree with others without giving much of your own thoughts. Although I'm usually the one to call people terrible, it's quite tiring to read through and I think it's overall bad for town. People that do not have town's best interests in mind are usually my top scum.

Alakazam

He also has posted very little content and hasn't tried to push town foward that much (I guess something I'm guilty of as well). I don't know what it is but everytime, my mind is just screaming scum. I guess it's just one of those gut things more than anything else. It seems most of town is reading town so if someone can give me a good detailed explanation why his nothingness constitues town that would be cool. I assume it's something to do with previous games and how he plays alignments differently.

Boonetown

I really really hated the QT play, more so than anything else. I think it was overall ok for town since we now know there's some seconday QT mechanic in play but the revealing part seemed very awkward to me. I read it as someone that was in a deephole and wanted to either

A) Reveal something to town to try and show transparency(?) and by extent seem more town
B) Create some diversion as in that post she begins to offload her blames onto at least 1 in her QT group (not really sure how she came to that conclusion but I think she has rescinded that).

The one thing that scares me is that she does get ultra-defensive when she is town and usually takes lynches more likely as mafia (since we all hate to be mislynched). If we were playing video, I probably wouldn't kill her today but everything she has done has been pretty weird and my other scum reads are pretty light at the moment.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 05 2014 16:49 GMT
#923
On March 06 2014 01:45 IAmRobik wrote:
Rayn,

if you're town calling me maf, you're going to be very embarrassed at the end of the game. I'm posting openly and freely (although to be fair a tiny bit less than last game) regarding all of my opinions. I think Killing COULD be mafia, but setting up a situation where we are mafia together is pretty scummy (cause, like, I'm town, and like whatnot).

What he just said is highly unlike to be an individual thought and i have only "shat on players" when i called your smiley post dumb and templar's post bad (because they were bad).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 05 2014 16:50 GMT
#924
Killing if you think i hav not posted original thoughts you are either mafia or delusional.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 05 2014 16:52 GMT
#925
Alakaslam is town because he is incapable of being this happy as mafia.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 16:54 GMT
#926
Man thats like his 3rd, 4th list post. Why so many lists Killing?
No gg, No skill.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
March 05 2014 17:00 GMT
#927
Lists fucking rule the universe

@Rayn

If you think you have posted enough original thoughts to help town, you are either mafia or delusional
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
March 05 2014 17:01 GMT
#928
Or rather enough original posts to make me think you're town
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 05 2014 17:02 GMT
#929
I think it's a bit cute that Joey's defending me here.
I also think it's cute that he think I'm more BM than he
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 17:02 GMT
#930
All you do is mostly call people terrible, tell them their reads are terrible or just plain disagree with others without giving much of your own thoughts

Yeah how in the world is this scummy rather than his playstyle?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 05 2014 17:03 GMT
#931
I call bad shit bad, that's quite simple.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 05 2014 17:04 GMT
#932
On March 06 2014 02:02 IAmRobik wrote:
I think it's a bit cute that Joey's defending me here.
I also think it's cute that he think I'm more BM than he

I dunno, what makes you think he is defending you rather than templar?
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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 05 2014 17:11 GMT
#933
On March 06 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 02:02 IAmRobik wrote:
I think it's a bit cute that Joey's defending me here.
I also think it's cute that he think I'm more BM than he

I dunno, what makes you think he is defending you rather than templar?

maybe it's cause you just tried to lump me and joey as maf together. Maybe it's cause he has me as his top town.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 05 2014 17:12 GMT
#934
On March 06 2014 02:11 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2014 02:02 IAmRobik wrote:
I think it's a bit cute that Joey's defending me here.
I also think it's cute that he think I'm more BM than he

I dunno, what makes you think he is defending you rather than templar?

maybe it's cause you just tried to lump me and joey as maf together. Maybe it's cause he has me as his top town.

Okay why do you think he does not bring up Dandel who has actually shat on you?
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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 05 2014 17:13 GMT
#935
On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.

I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.

Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?

Here are my updated reads:

Strong Town

Rob

Leaning Town:

Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion

Neutral

Grack
Oats
VE

Leaning Maf

Alakazam
Rayn

Strong Maf

Boone


I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify



There's a contradiction in the bolded parts. You say that her play is off and you can't get a good feel on whether she is maf or town, but that you lean scum on her (by the end of that bolded paragraph), but then you list her under "STRONG MAF" reads. I am so wishy-washy on Boone right now, I think having her as "strong maf" is quite the stretch.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 05 2014 17:15 GMT
#936
On March 06 2014 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 02:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2014 02:02 IAmRobik wrote:
I think it's a bit cute that Joey's defending me here.
I also think it's cute that he think I'm more BM than he

I dunno, what makes you think he is defending you rather than templar?

maybe it's cause you just tried to lump me and joey as maf together. Maybe it's cause he has me as his top town.

Okay why do you think he does not bring up Dandel who has actually shat on you?

I don't know. I'm not fully caught up. I don't want to discuss Dandelion though. I've made my opinions on him well known and if I were leading the lynch today, he would be out of the game...but....you know...I'm not...so..............
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 05 2014 17:15 GMT
#937
Good point.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 05 2014 17:17 GMT
#938
I meant good point on Killing. ^^

I think it's weird that he brings up me and not Dandel if he is defending you. So it has to do with GGTeMpLaR. I literally just read my filter and i am way more friendly than usual and i have definitely not shat on players in this game.
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boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 05 2014 17:19 GMT
#939
I am going to do this all in the order as I read it.. there are 10 pages to go through, so if this is too long I don't really care at this point. I'm just going to start responding to everything. I have noticed there are now 6 votes on me, and 6 hours to get them off of me. That doesn't leave me much time, so I'm pretty sure I'll end up being the lynch. That being said, I'm going to do everything I can right now to try and make that no happen.

For reasons stated before by myself and others. It's likely she slipped up early on, but I'll need to see more of her reads before I make her my final vote.


Templar, how in the hell do you see a slip? You guys are reaching and grasping at things that aren't there because you WANT me to be mafia, not because I am. There is no world right now, where I am mafia.


On March 05 2014 14:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Boone, why do you think that Video meta and forum meta is the same?
Also you gave this Palmar read earlier.
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 02:11 boonetown wrote:
Palmar - created the whole random lynch, then drew actual reads from the conversation it started. The only world in which he would be scum is where him and robik are scum together (calling him town and pushing on an easy lynch target, myself) which seems unlikely.

Where did Palmar draw reads from the whole random lynch debacle?


Palmer sat back and let the trolling happen, then when it did he commented on a lot of people based on what they responded with. He Talked about how he felt Roberts point was valid, that there was too much trolling, than Oats (and others) needed to step it up. He questioned the voting stuff templar did.

I'm currently going through his filter because I wanted to make sure what I wrote still stands. Now that I am focusing just on him and not his posts in whole with the entire thread, he seems to be telling people what to do, explaining how to read people as town, asking for reads, explaining why he does or doesn't agree with someone and their reasoning. I think he wouldnt be my top town anymore, but I still think he's town nonetheless.

which felt like something I'd never hear her say as town in video mafia. It felt like a really scummy way to respond to early pressure, almost like she had a guilty conscience. A town would probably just be like "IDGAF", not get all emotional about it and blame the game/environment with


I am playing differently because I am not entirely sure how to convey town through text, and my opinion stands and is proving more true by the second, they don't know how to read me, and currently neither do you.

If nothing else, I clarified with thrawn that the wording on the OP is actually 100% correct. So amongst other reasons I want to policy lynch her for roleclaiming on day 1.


This can be fixed if the people in my QT wanted it fixed, they have let me know they don't. If you are going to lynch me for letting town know about a QT that's happening, you're an idiot.

Note how diplomatic this is. She's supposedly suspicious of Templar too, and look at the bolded statement! Who asks a scumread if they disagree with them ABOUT themselves? Does that even make sense? To anyone? What's he supposed to say there? "Oh well you know, I wasn't convinced before but now I guess you're right I could be scum" No. He's not supposed to say anything but "no" in that situation regardless of his alignment, so why ask it? This whole post reads to me like she knows Temp is town but wants him to townread her even though she has to call him scum based on her previous posting. She's concerned about appearing consistent. It's scummy, and frankly I could lynch boone today.


OMFG... I asked him (and he didnt answer by the way) because Templar as town would be the first to admit that what he did was scummy. He would confirm that the way I was reading him was correct, which would in turn allow (as a whole) understand that I'm not just making shit up, I'm reading, paying attention and trying to figure this game out.
-------------------

This quoting this is getting ridiculous, i'm switching it up.

@Rayn - I think there is scum in our QT becuase I don't think I would be so lucky as to be put in a group with all town, that being said, if it is all town I will feel really stupid when this is all said and done. Why would I feel stupid? Because I outted it, and it could have been used much more effectively. I base my reads on you and austin while reading the QT and the thread itself, not just one or the other. Not just solely because I think there is a mafia in there, but by the way people have played and reacted. That is why I think Austin might be scum.

I just got to the part where you outted the entire QT, I think that's interesting... not sure how to take that.

Here's what I think will happen, you guys are going to lynch me, see that I'm town and start lynching through my QT group which could be good if there is a Mafia in there, but I don't think that there are two, and thus I think you will waste lynches on 2 towns for one mafia. Worst case scenario you lynch all three of us and we all flip town.


@Dandel - I unvoted on GGtemp after his post, I thought that was pretty clear but if it wasn't then I'm sorry. I feel like that is the templar i know and can read better. I'm not saying he's town by any means, but his post made me rethink his play, and therefor my vote was removed.

I AM GOING TO USE CAPS RIGHT NOW, BECUASE IT MEANS IM SERIOUS. GET YOUR VOTES OFF ME, PLEASE. I AM NOT THE BEST VOTE AND IF YOU ARE VOTING ME FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF POLICY LYNCH, THAT'S FUCKING MORONIC. YOU DO NOT POLICY LYNCH ME, I DID NOTHING WRONG, I HAVENT CLAIMED ANYTHING OTHER THAN OUTTING A MASON GROUP I THOUGHT WOULD HELP TOWN, IF THEY KNEW ABOUT IT.

I am being pushed on very hard, and people are jumping all over it. Reads are flip flopping because Palmar is trying to bury me, the question is, is he doing it as town or as mafia?

@ robert & joey (killing) - I'm sorry I'm not playing in a way that makes it easy for you to read me as town. You both seem to have the same excuse for reading me as mafia, and while it's slightly valid you have to ask yourself why i might be playing that way.

-----------------------

Here comes the shitty part. It took me an hour to go through all the fucking pages, catch up on everything and now i have about 5 hours left. The votes probably won't be removed, so I'm just going to claim and give my reads. I am medic. I was super fucking nervous coming into this game as it was, and getting this role made it worse. I am getting policy lynched anyway because people are asshats, so I might as well go out with a bang.

I am not, nor have I ever acted scummy in this thread, I am town and therefor everything I say has been from a towns perspective. I might be nervous and I might have no idea what I'm doing (because, HI.. this is my first forum game) but I think I did an okay job.

Now, here are my lists;

TOWN:
Killing
Robik
Rayn

Leaning town after my reread:
VE


SCUM:
Austin
Alakaslam

Leaning scum after my reread:
Palmar
Oats
Templar

GLHF **as a side note, I wanted to get this information out as quickly as I could, so I'm not rereading it or fixing anything. ignore my keytardedness if there is any**
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 05 2014 17:20 GMT
#940
Like i called your smiley read dumb because it is dumb. I also called templar's posts bad because tehy were bad. Hell people even fucking agree with me on that, how the fuck is that "shitting on someone"? Posts that say nothing or posts which are based on bad logic are bad, there is no reason to call them flowers.
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