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On February 27 2014 07:05 JarJarDrinks wrote: If VT dies N0: - Cop should claim elseif Doc dies N0: - Cop should claim ONLY if he has a redcheck elseif Cop dies N0: - Maybe Doc should claim. Gonna give this some more thought Why should Doc claim in any situation...? | ||
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On February 27 2014 07:08 Blazinghand wrote: JJD actually probably isn't scum, because scum would know that Doc wouldn't ever claim cause that wouldn't really do anything to hurt scum. Scum would be aware of what tactics blues can use on them because scum has been hanging out chatting for a day now about the setup and claims. Unless JJD is doing a really good job of playing dumb, or he actually is dumb (he isn't), he's town. He clearly hasn't thought this true which is, (sigh), a townie trait. Yeah, I have a hard time seeing such a blunder from scum. Too stupid to be scum prevails. | ||
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On February 27 2014 07:18 Blazinghand wrote: Really what it comes down to is that even if JJD were the kind of guy to not think of this thing as scum, he also has a partner and he's been discussing with his partner for almost 24 hours. Scum NEEDS to fakeclaim in this setup. Whoever our 2 scummers are, they've been thinking about fakeclaiming for almost a day now; how to claim, when to claim, who will counterclaim, and what to claim. They know that Doctor shouldn't just claim willy-nilly. The only situations where that makes sense (ie doctor saves someone N1 and it's D2 and he wants to claim it or something) don't apply during D1 when the claims happen. JJD as scum would have thought this through. He would be trying to amass towncred by making good suggestions, and talking about "maybe the doc should claim if the cop dies n0" really makes no sense. Scum wouldn't even consider it as a threat to deal with. It's mostly not about "too stupid to be scum" which is false (since a stupid player can of course roll scum) but that scum in this setup almost necessarily already know everything about claiming, and JJD clearly does not. He couldn't have known I'd latch onto this and call him town for it; in fact, an ineffective statement like that is more likely to draw fire than praise, so as scum he'd try to only make true statements rather than things that don't make sense. I was referring to the fact that it would be too stupid to make a suggestion like that as scum after discussing strategy for 24 hours. | ||
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On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote: Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0. If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact. There's merit in forcing scum to act without knowledge of the power roles though. If Cop/Doc just claim right away, scum can plan accordingly and keep their stories straight more easily. Not to mention that it's wasteful to get a Doc killed for no clear reason. | ||
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On February 27 2014 07:44 Sn0_Man wrote: oke jjd is actively promoting ways for town to lose tho wtf Thus arriving at the conclusion that he wouldn't propose plans like this as scum after 24 hours of planning... | ||
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On February 27 2014 07:45 Blazinghand wrote: ALSO DON'T CLAIM VT CAUSE IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR SCUM TO SHOOT THE COP/DOC. It's all a big WIFOM anyways. He could as well be saying this as non-VT. | ||
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On February 27 2014 07:47 Sn0_Man wrote: how many levels deep of "they know that we know that they know that we know..." did you go? Anything is possible, but JJD seems sincere enough to me. It'd be a risky WIFOM-play to do that and I doubt it's some master plan they prepared for N0........ | ||
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On February 27 2014 07:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Basically no one should vote until town collectively decided on a lynch. Maybe we should pseudo-vote before executing the actual vote? | ||
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On February 27 2014 07:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: What do you mean? My role pm clearly sta- oh shit. Damn, now you ruined it! | ||
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On February 27 2014 07:54 Blazinghand wrote: That wouldn't apply pressure appropriately. We should just be aware that putting someone at Hammer-2 is the same as hammering them basically if they are town and all the voters are scum. Yeah, true. I don't think I'll be voting until I'm very confident that I want to lynch. | ||
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On February 27 2014 07:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: yeah, we should. Something like ##HazingBland Xatalos would be neat. Then when someone reaches a majority of HazingBlands they should claim. Clearly you need to be hesitant with the use of HazingBlands. BH does have a point though. It's not nearly as much pressure as having 2-3 actual votes. | ||
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