EPTTL Mafia LXIV: The Restart
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And [r]Storrzerg[/r] is probably mafia. | ||
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On January 26 2014 07:31 StorrZerg wrote: wat a joke ill generally be pretty active On January 26 2014 07:32 StorrZerg wrote: wanting and willing to figure out this game Scummy. | ||
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On January 26 2014 08:22 thrawn2112 wrote: why dont you all say some alignment indicative stuff Your first post in the thread reads mafia to me. | ||
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Storrzerg and Admiral Thrawn are scummy the way they entered the thread. | ||
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On January 26 2014 08:40 Grackaroni wrote: How did I enter the thread? Townie. | ||
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On January 26 2014 08:44 kushm4sta wrote: Ggtemplar why are you posting your weak ass reads for no reason. Why are you just asking people to give reads in your posts without giving any of your own? Scummy as hell. I let the first one slide but you just did it again. | ||
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On January 26 2014 09:05 VisceraEyes wrote: I would like you to qualify the bolded statement. WHAT about the way they entered the thread is scummy to you? Well Storr kinda just promised he would contribute a lot - kind of a pointless post to make. You don't announce "I'm about to make a post contribution" every time you post. Regarding Grand Admiral Thrawn, saying "X plz be town" just strikes me as something mafia more likely say than town, but I could be wrong on this maybe it's just a null-tell. His next post is just asking people to make alignment indicative posts though - similar to my gripe with Storr. | ||
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On January 26 2014 09:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Well I disagree - saying something like "I should be quite active and interested" is something we can hold him accountable to, which is something mafia tend to shy away from doing. What's your take on the Thrawn part then? | ||
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On January 26 2014 11:31 Alakaslam wrote: Now to get discussion rolling. Please discuss, what do we think Grackaroni would do as mayor? Granted it would help if grak himself were to shed light on the subject but for now let us speculate. Why should or should not Grack be mayor? Why do you think discussing what we think he would do is useful as opposed to him just shedding light on his intentions/reads. I don't think that sort of speculation is useful when he hasn't even given reads yet. | ||
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On January 26 2014 12:34 Alakaslam wrote: Because... Have you got a better alternative? Because I'm open to suggestions... I honestly think not posting is a better alternative to speculation about that. | ||
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On January 26 2014 09:00 Tehpoofter wrote: Oh I just said that to troll you I know you're a guy. I actually was making up that read on you about posting before you do make a lot of large posts but after awhile. I feel like your reaction though overly calling my memory bad is actually scummy. Its super early and there is really no reason to get that defensive. i was hoping we could both be town this game Balla but I'm not getting that reaction  What do you think of Storr calling you town over this post? You've played video mafia with us as well, what do you make of this post from Storr: On January 26 2014 09:12 StorrZerg wrote: tbh ggtemplar probably mafia the way he is pushing on me early is very weird. I know him pretty well from playing video mafia, and we have talked about his previous game. While it might seem like he is "looking for mafia" he starts off with immediately gunning for me and "talking loud" Feels like a really easy thing for a mafia to do, specially since he picked myself as his target. | ||
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On January 26 2014 13:06 Alakaslam wrote: SO TO DISCUSS THIS GAME. Who do people like for mayor? I refuse to run. I think VE is good but I will campaign for Grack. That is all I have done plus some trollololllol posts. All of which have meaning but feh! No worries. What then would you all have me do, if you remain silent? You don't have to be silent I just didn't think hypothesizing what someone would do if elected mayor is pro-town discussion. With regards to mayor, I'm okay with Kush right now but I don't have much of a town read on anyone else most people are still null to me with a few scumreads (I've reconsidered my town-reading Balla24 as a bit hasty). I think Kush is town right now because he seems to be pushing people in BM ways and making enemies in a way a mafia most likely wouldn't + I skimmed his filter from other games to confirm him complaining about spam is his normal town play. Why do you like Grack/VE? | ||
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On January 26 2014 13:23 kushm4sta wrote: did you actually do this? i don't believe you. also where did i complain about spam this game? You didn't directly come out and say "spam sucks" but you complained about things being useless or weak (indirectly a lot) and sort of asked people to step up their content: On January 26 2014 08:23 kushm4sta wrote: Balla how about you actually do stuff rather than trying to get mayor on reputation alone. On January 26 2014 08:44 kushm4sta wrote: Ggtemplar why are you posting your weak ass reads for no reason. On January 26 2014 10:44 kushm4sta wrote: balla the only thing worse than bum's retarded plan is how you keep discussing it On January 26 2014 11:31 kushm4sta wrote: alaka that is spamming nonsense, not trolling. Trolling is when you say something with the purpose of getting an emotional response out of the other person. I didn't go through great depth in your filters, mostly just skimmed the first page or two of your filter on a few of your games. | ||
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On January 26 2014 14:16 Balla24 wrote: Pm from GGTemplar, he asked me this twice once in tl pm and once in IRC and also asked thrawn in pms. Role-fishing this early is pretty weird. I don't see how that's useful at all to him at this point, nor do I see how he expected anybody to actually answer him without anything have happened yet. LOL cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war It's about time someone else posted besides grumpy and trolly and myself. | ||
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If it makes you feel any better I've had a 0% success ratio with people positively responding to that question. | ||
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What's scummy is you both coming out of the woodworks to accuse me over this. | ||
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On January 26 2014 14:29 thrawn2112 wrote: lol nobody is accusing you. we just want to know why you asked us for our roles like.... please... please don't pretend that you don't know that role fishing is "scummy." i have no idea how you could think otherwise, i have no idea why you'd think I'm in the wrong for wanting to know why you did it... do you see why i am confused? you are acting like you just did something completely normal and you didnt I told you why I asked in the PMs. You specifically brought this to the thread for a reason and if it isn't more than to call me "weird", then wtf? Also get your story straight - is it scummy or weird? If it's scummy then you're accusing me by bringing this to the thread. If you're not accusing me then I have no idea what your play is here. | ||
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On January 26 2014 15:11 Alakaslam wrote: Well So basically GGTeMpLaR was blue fishing in pm land, what roles was he fishing for? I just asked if they were vanilla or a role. | ||
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On January 26 2014 15:41 Alakaslam wrote: He is best candidate until more people realize this game has started Can you stop trolling and say why you town-read him? Or do you null-read him and just think if he's town he's the best candidate? | ||
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Maybe if he starts playing it would go onto one of the lurkers who haven't posted yet or Storrzerg b/c I didn't like his reasons for scum-reading me. It just felt like a forced pretext for OMGUS. | ||
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On January 26 2014 16:01 bumatlarge wrote: mr bungle sits on a throne of lies. I have a scum read on balla for now. And bungle knows it lol Who's bungle and what's your reasons for scum-reading balla? | ||
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Who do you think Kush thinks Balla is bussing? | ||
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On January 26 2014 16:22 Alakaslam wrote: Even if he is, blue. I am playing te game GGTeMpLaR go read the op bro It's frustrating when you refuse to give reasons for your reads and just make jokes non-stop, despite being asked multiple times by multiple people, but if you don't want to give reasons I can't make you so I'll stop cluttering up the thread trying. | ||
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On January 27 2014 02:02 QuantumPope wrote: Hi everyone, sorry I was late to the party. I have never played with any of you in fourm mafia but I’m going to try and give my full and honest reads here from what I’ve seen so far in this game. The Good: Right now VE, Thrawn, Balla, Grack, and Alakaslam have been contributing to furthering the conversation. In some cases it has been extremely elaborate with reasoning, information and solid reasoning. In the other cases it’s legit trolling trying to get people to talk. I’m okay with all these people tentatively. The Bad: Tehpoofter, GGTeMpLaR, BloodyC0bbler, Skanjab1s, Storrzerg, and kush have all contributed quite a bit as well but something about these people’s early reasoning does not sit well with me. Maybe they’re scum hunting with their comments but the interactions just don’t scream town for me. I am just not particularly excited about what these people have to say. The Ugly: Coagulation, BlazingHand, Wile E. Coyote, Oatsmaster, bumatlarge, and Mocasta. These people have either not posted or have not given me enough to read on. I have a hard time reading into trolls. These people, in my opinion, have added very little information of substance or attempting to drive the conversation in a direction that seems town oriented. My reads will change as the game progresses and hopefully my post will generate some talk amongst you fine folk. CONRAD!!!! You're my top scum now!!! Did you put one of your mafia in each of the 3 categories? | ||
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On January 27 2014 02:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: active blue hunting while not posting a ton of contributions. His support of kush early is just wtf in my opinion as well and no sensible person would do. How many games have you played with him? This is my first and I thought my reasoning was pretty good. Elaborate why it wasn't aside from being "wtf" | ||
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On January 27 2014 02:02 QuantumPope wrote: The Good: Right now VE, Thrawn, Balla, Grack, and Alakaslam have been contributing to furthering the conversation. In some cases it has been extremely elaborate with reasoning, information and solid reasoning. In the other cases it’s legit trolling trying to get people to talk. I’m okay with all these people tentatively. Can you give any concrete examples of this? On January 27 2014 02:02 QuantumPope wrote: The Ugly: Coagulation, BlazingHand, Wile E. Coyote, Oatsmaster, bumatlarge, and Mocasta. These people have either not posted or have not given me enough to read on. I have a hard time reading into trolls. These people, in my opinion, have added very little information of substance or attempting to drive the conversation in a direction that seems town oriented. What differentiates say Alakazam's trolling that makes it not hard for you to read into? On January 27 2014 02:26 QuantumPope wrote: Grack: I appreciate his confidence in his Day 1 reads. While he is on my good list he isn't particularly high on it I appreciated his campaign motto of lynching his reads. He is leaning towards the ugly with his trolling but he does make the list. Alaka: He's essentially baiting out comments. I like that to get the town talking on Day 1 but if it continues into the following days he'll probably land in my ugly list. -Like regarding these, half the town has come out confidently in this game, what is different about Grack's confidence versus the confidence of others? -And Alaka's trolling is directed at baiting out comments to what ends? Have you gotten any reads off someone who fell for Alaka's "bait" that you find useful? | ||
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On January 27 2014 03:27 kushm4sta wrote: hmm nvm i get what bc is saying After my post or independent of it? | ||
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Or just vote me mayor? | ||
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On January 27 2014 03:35 kushm4sta wrote: @oats but qp had decent reasons for these two townreads Do you believe in astrology too? | ||
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On January 27 2014 03:41 QuantumPope wrote: I don't see the problem with supporting kush? I happen to be a very sensible person but if you could happen to enlighten me as to why this is a bad read it would be greatly appreciated. You trying to pocket me? | ||
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I'm the mayor this town needs, not the mayor it deserves. It deserves worse. | ||
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On January 27 2014 03:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Its highly likely that GGTem is town but this man Please no. PLEASE. I don't get what's problematic about this post. | ||
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On January 27 2014 03:59 Blazinghand wrote: Fair enough, having read that question I immediately know what your concerns are oh no wait the opposite of that Idk about them, but for me personally: I liked your post at first and was like "oh shit maybe QP is town, especially his latest post I liked a lot - this BH guy is my top town for pointing this out before anyone else" Then I thought "well wouldn't it be super pro if a mafia made the first post that caused everyone to realize QP is town to get town cred" Then I decided I wasn't actually sold on QP yet as town or mafia and that he still leaned scummy - and even if he's town it could be either scenario so I will null-read for now but you haven't really done anything besides that QP read. | ||
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On January 27 2014 04:02 Oatsmaster wrote: Kush =/= mayor. Ok that's fair, but I didn't know Kush trolled and disappeared mid-game making him sub-optimal for a mayor until you guys told me. | ||
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On January 27 2014 04:30 QuantumPope wrote: Could you explain to town what you believe in right now TeMpLaR? You claim I put mafia in each of my 3 categories but then you immediately thought my reasoning was pretty good. I am confused with this latest post if you like my reads or not? Sorry I just meant this one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856¤tpage=23#460 Also, how are you guys so sure BC is town? | ||
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On January 27 2014 05:13 Alakaslam wrote: Well I have seen him roll scum, he fooled me then. However, I want a vet mayor and the other two I recognize at the moment are not running. I don't follow how Mafia Vet > Town Rookie | ||
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On January 27 2014 05:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I don't follow how Mafia Vet > Town Rookie Just to be clear, I'm not saying he's mafia. It just seems like you have no read on him and are voting for him purely on being a vet without regards to his alignment. | ||
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Buy what? What are you even talking about? | ||
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On January 27 2014 06:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Town has no reason to bluehunt. If someone claims to you thats one thing, but purposely trying to out roles is fucking retarded as town. People just leaking who has what role to just anyone happens all the damn time in pm games. Not seeing how it could be useful for a town to be able to personally coordinate who is a role or not is fucking retarded. | ||
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On January 27 2014 06:44 Grackaroni wrote: It can be useful but it's a big reach to expect people to trust you that much at the start of the game. I didn't really have huge expectations that many people would instantly trust me and answer but it didn't hurt to try though, that is unless everyone reads me scum for trying. | ||
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Come on if you're town get off me because you're wasting your time - or at the very least think of a different accusation. | ||
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On January 26 2014 07:31 StorrZerg wrote: wat a joke ill generally be pretty active On January 26 2014 07:32 StorrZerg wrote: wanting and willing to figure out this game I've been waiting for you to make good on this promise. Instead, I'm seeing is stalking around in the PM shadows like Mocsta and Thrawn. PM is supposed to supplement the thread as a means of communication, not replace it. | ||
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On January 27 2014 09:28 StorrZerg wrote: instead of writing posts that cannot be open to discussion, why don't you try to generate discussion. You are not doing a good job of that with your current line of posts. Ok well I was mostly pinging you because I didn't trust you but I really liked your previous post and feel much safer that you're town at this point and I don't think mafia tries that hard to pocket someone like me who probably won't even get elected mayor, especially if you read me as a role. | ||
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On January 27 2014 16:51 Alakaslam wrote: YOU KNOW WHAT? ## Unvote ##Vote: Alakaslam You were right, GGTeMpLaR! We need a friggin confirmed townie. If I'm not conftown to you you are closed minded. I am not much benefitted by protection but I am definitely town! I am getting so frustrated not knowing who is scum! I would lynch the player with the fewest posts, weighed against their contribution in those posts! lol just vote for me already you know you want to. Also, VE/BC factions I am down with a BH vote so you should rally behind me. It's entirely possible QP or Grackaroni could be scum as well at this point. QP more just for scummy play this game and he will need to contribute more if he is town to convince me. Grackaroni had a weird relationship with BH where BH goes from pinging him hard to valuing his opinion on who to trust as town. I also think there is a likely scum in the group that jumped on me over role-searching in PMs and who beat the dead horse into compact meat (Balla/Thrawn/bum/BC). I liked VE's big post on pg 37 and I liked Mocsta's big post on pg 32. I like Storr's support of me but VE made up a decent point in PM that if Storr doesn't actually even think I can get elected, I should be considering his motives here which I have no clue b/c he hasn't posted much since then. BH didn't just come out of the woodworks to defend QP for no reason before he could defend himself, but he also answered that weird question for me too do you remember that? It was sketchy as fuq. A lot of vets seem to be scumreading him too so I'm more confident putting him as my D1 lynch. -Weird defense of QP, answered a question for me as well. -Hard pinged Grack as sure mafia, then arbitrarily trusts his opinion now and never comments why. -Argues with Alakazam over some dumb vet thing I don't even know why. Make me your mayor I will lynch BH. Adun Toridas. | ||
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I will unite the clans. | ||
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On January 27 2014 15:11 Blazinghand wrote: mocsta town but i don't like him because of our pmland interactions. Grack seems to trust him so i'm down with that. not sure on balla, ve scum. note ve's reaction to mocsta's case. not interested in engaging. just wants to use his VE-ness to brush it under the rug. scum mocsta wouldn't go after VE because scum doesn't want to go after VE. if I were mayor I'd lynch VE. still deciding who should be mayor. what changed your mind on grack? | ||
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On January 28 2014 03:34 kushm4sta wrote: Gg no offense but you are a big noob, you don't Make a lot of server, and no one is going to vote for you. server? | ||
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On January 28 2014 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'd rather have someone as mayor who doesn't flip his shit when someone does not want to claim to them 1h into the game.. sorry. you kidding? people flipped shit on me IDGAF that no one claimed to me. | ||
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On January 28 2014 03:39 Balla24 wrote: Uhh... when he was scum in my game he afk'ed a LOT. Don't think this is valid. ok well then I'll disregard it as null | ||
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I WILL NOT GIVE UP OR BACK DOWN | ||
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On January 28 2014 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: At this moment I am voting for whoever lynches QuantumPope or Tehpoofer. Broken promise #1 and he isn't even in office yet. | ||
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With thunderous applause. | ||
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On January 28 2014 04:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: You have no idea where my read on bum is based on. Enlighten us | ||
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On January 28 2014 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: So why in your opinion people, is mafia!Blazinghand not doing anything to prevent his lynch? Both of BC/VE want to lynch BH and he is doing nothing about it. Sounds like a good mafia strategy? replace "mafia" with "town" and this still makes perfect sense | ||
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Besides, I've got to distinguish my campaign anyways you guys already took the lynch BH/QP votes. | ||
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On January 28 2014 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also second choise for mayor is VE who is scum. I actually really liked VE's post on BH. Even if BH is town it seemed like it came from a town mindset. | ||
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On January 28 2014 06:07 Blazinghand wrote: qp obviously scum. contradictions. votes guy who lynch townread I've had a few pm convos with him and it makes me second-guess the scumread on him. Purely based on the thread I'd definitely call him scum though. | ||
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I'm not defending him here as I still think he's probable scum and I won't be upset if he's lynched, I'm just justifying why I am not 100% sure on him like you are. | ||
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and if he flips red it won't be liek "WOAH HE WAS DEFLECTING OFF OF HIM" | ||
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I don't see why you're hammering me over this you're gonna make me change my mind about you over BC because this is really insignificant | ||
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I was probably the only one though and I still said I thought he was scummy in the convo | ||
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On January 28 2014 06:21 Blazinghand wrote: are you threatening not to elect a mayor because he's pressing someone for info about a scumread that nobody else has? currently rayn's actions are townie as heck even if you personally find it inconvenient to share your reads and reasoning with the rest of the thread. no I'm not he's pressuring me over what I fucking used to communicate with how is that relevant? I told him a summary of the convo and that I had no records if could be AIM or steam for all that matters, what is the relevance? | ||
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On January 28 2014 06:23 Blazinghand wrote: man this happens every damn game that i'm town. it's like "wow, bh is acting weird, he must be town" and then one or two people are like "well, nothing he has done makes sense from a scum perspective" and also "he never does this as scum" and somehow the herds of jubjubs are like "I know that logically speaking everything bh has done so far indicates he's town, and even moreso taking into account meta, but i'm not gonna let that stop me from trying to get him lynched" every damn game I've never played with you so all that meta read stuff is meaningless to me. I thought it was scummy how you defended QP before he could defend himself. I also thought it was 'weird' how you answered that one question directed at me, for me, like you were defending me before I could defend myself too. A lot of VE's big post I liked convinced me too and I don't ever remember any significant refutation of it from you that stands out in my mind. | ||
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On January 28 2014 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because you are fucking saying you had a conversation with him, he says noone has had a conversation with him and you don't thave the conversation to back that up. That's fucking fishy as shit. So how did the convo go. On top of your mind. That's important. If he were here right now he'd say "oh yea I talked to templar but it wasn't much" basically I called him scum and he's like "wtf are u doing I'm not scum I had good reads" and I was like respond to my post about you and he was like "ok I will" and half an hour later he's liek "man this is taking too long I'm just gonna ignore it but maybe I'll try to address it" but he never did which was scummy imo then later on he still insisted that he had good reads which I thought was oddly honest/opinionated in a stubborn sort of way, like exactly how BH weirdly initially defended him sort of stubborn townie response That's basically the gist of it. I still think he's more likely to be scum and a decent lynch. He felt genuinely opinionated in the PM but he could have just been fooling me there. | ||
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On January 28 2014 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Just to clarify. I do not think GGTeMpLaR is mafia. I want to know if QP says different shit than he brings in thread because apparently GGTeMpLaR is not experienced enough to do the math himself. Or does not pay attention. and you should ALWAYS save the logs, because otherwise the conversation is worthless as you can't back up what you are saying. there were no actual reads in the conversation it was very light, small talkish perhaps I should have clarified we didn't discuss reads | ||
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I have moved into 3rd place THE DARK HORSE IS CATCHING UP | ||
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ok just so we're clear I'm actually the mayor here and I'm deciding whether I want to lynch BH or QP | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
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Like maybe he did it because he's mafia. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
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On January 28 2014 13:29 Oatsmaster wrote: So rayn wants to lynch our mayor, who else also wants to lynch our mayor? I could be swayed. | ||
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top scum still | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
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if you guys just elected me I would have lynched the scum-bum like that huge analysis post he just made? the bulk of it is just null observations that is easy to read what is he casting the game or playing it bum is top mafia | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
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perfect | ||
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Bum Balla BC BH | ||
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On January 29 2014 03:57 kushm4sta wrote: can you help us read you somehow? where is your passion man? quit giving him softballs like you're mafia and know he's town | ||
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