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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 00:33 GMT
#1329
Oh yeah i have read that.
lol so Oats didn't even have a read on BH for real..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 00:40 GMT
#1332
Is there anyone in the game who wants to call Blazinghand mafia?
Especially those people who thought he was mafia on D1?

BH i am gonna make you confirmed town now! <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 05:10 GMT
#1376
He is clearly trying to use coding in his posts which is not allowed.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 06:08 GMT
#1393
What does it matter? BC is confirmed town unless you want to cc his vigilante claim.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 07:02 GMT
#1433
On January 29 2014 16:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
##unvote
##vote bum

What's up?
I thought i was mafia so am i bussing now?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 07:15 GMT
#1436
Ahh so my alignment is related to bum's. But i have terrible reads. And i have a case on bum. I get you Oats, i totally do. You are so good at this game, i salute you!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 09:42 GMT
#1457
I am pretty sure Balla is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 10:01 GMT
#1458
Balla the mafia dude:

Here is what happened at the start of the game (in chronological order):

1) GGTeMpLaR makes his opening posts (not important what).
2) GGTeMpLaR asks people in PM's if they are a role or not.
3) Balla finds this weird and puts it in thread "for all the people to see what they think about it"
4) Balla literally says "bluehunting = scummy" when noone comment on the matter in saying it's scummy
5) Balla talks about everything else but not about the bluehunting
5) Balla makes his mayoral campaign, where he says GGTeMpLaR's posting has been "relaxed and townie" and quotes some posts.

Why is this scummy?

First of all the bluehunting thing. Balla does not even think that's necessarily scummy (as can be seen from his logs with thrawn) but he wants to put that thing in thread anyways. Basic scum strategy; "let's call some weird stuff out and see if anyone takes a bait and voilá, we have townies arguing over something stupid". This happened in last game with me/marv/BH (his mason claim) and Balla very well knows that. Also no, bluefishing is not necessarily scummy, at least if done in manner GGTeMpLaR did it..

When noone takes the bait he calls bluefishing scummy himself. Still noone takes the bait, so Balla goes on talking about other stuff. If he thinks it's scummy why does he not push the matter further? Because he does not really think it's scummy but just wants to talk about something stupid instead of scumhunting.

In the end, he makes his mayor campaign. He calls GGTeMpLaR town. For stuff that happened before the whole bluefishing thing. So Balla had a townread on GGTeMpLaR before all that. But GGTeMpLaR was scummy because of bluefishing. Where did that go? Did he just forget it because noone agreed with him? If he thought that was fishy why is it not in his reads post where he thinks he should be mayor? Again, because he did not think it's scummy in the first place!

Also look at his mayor campaign (my notes in italic):

1) I'm probably the one with the most knowledge about the most players. I know the quantumpope/ggtemplar/storrzerg/tehpoofter players where probably nobody else really does. has he ever given any informative reads on these people? No.
2) I'm active in PM land. So I can get answers and find out how people are acting in PM land, whereas some people aren't as active there. Is he? Has any of this Balla's huge activity translated into thread? No.
3) I'll find scum, and be very open with the thread so that the players who can't be as active in PM land will know what their mayor is thinking. After his mayor post, has he posted a single read in thread? No.
These are the closest things to "reads" he has given since then:
On January 28 2014 06:59 Balla24 wrote:
LYNCH STORR HE'S MAFIA

On January 28 2014 07:00 Balla24 wrote:
AND SO IS QP

At the deadline.. wow.. such reads.. very mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 10:37 GMT
#1460
So does bum follow that up in any way after that. Yeah no. Does he ever mention Balla anywhere? Yeah no.
He talks about GGTeMpLaR and Mocsta as his scumreads. Noone else.

scum - scum interaction? why not?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 10:40 GMT
#1461
Also look at these things. Weird or not?

From bum's post about Balla that you just quoted:
That was a big assumption, but I could be wrong.

"so this is not really scummy, just explain it"

And from his post before:
On January 26 2014 16:01 bumatlarge wrote:
mr bungle sits on a throne of lies.

I have a scum read on balla for now. And bungle knows it lol

What the hell is the bolded part? Someone knows he has a scumread on Balla. Oh shit, that's really bad. Why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 10:58 GMT
#1463
Have you seen the PM's?
Do they look townie from any side?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 11:04 GMT
#1464
Here is a tip for you. When someone makes a read in thread, especially a scumread, that is based purely on PM's, you go ahead and ask them to show the proof of that. That's why i scumread BC in the first place. He had a shitton of reads that were "bcz of PM's.. this dood scum". You know how fishy that is when you can't confirm yourself if the read is even genuine in the first place, or if he is misreading something or not.

Don't use PM's if you don't know how to use PM's. I said it in the first game and i say it again.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 11:27 GMT
#1476
On January 29 2014 20:18 kushm4sta wrote:
meanwhile mocsta is still scummy as hell. dat badge of mocsta dominance. still there.

Where do you actually stand with your read on Mocsta?
You have changed your read at least 4 times from "totally scum" to "totally town" and vice versa in ~5 hours.
So what is it and why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 11:30 GMT
#1481
Can we lynch you if i can prove you have gone from scum -> town -> scum -> town -> scum?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 11:35 GMT
#1484
On January 29 2014 02:04 kushm4sta wrote:
I ask mocsta who are your scumreads and why.
This is what he says.
Qp is a given. I think everyone in the game scum reads him but gg.
His thing on bum makes no sense. I don't follow how what he said makes bum scum.
And his other two are total inactives.
Town mocsta would undoubtedly have sexier scum reads.

Show nested quote +

I'm working off
pope based on his last post. way too many contradictions for someone who values quality posting apparently.
bum based on the follow up discussion I had with him. hes null on me now apparently. but that big post of his wasnt even up to date. clearly he gives no fucks about the game.

those are my top two
iffy reads are
coag cos hes done nothing which reminds me of LoL
tehpoofteh who apparently is getting replaced so I may give benefit of the doubt

there's a couple null reads but they not relevant currently

On January 29 2014 15:06 kushm4sta wrote:
I get why BC made rayn a bodyguard, but why did he make ve a bodyguard. I don't recall him scumreading VE.? maybe im wrong.
~~~
ok i finally read everything.
nah mocsta's not scum.

ill do a poe scumlist:
Coagulation
bumatlarge
Skanjab1s
Balla24
Grackaroni
Oatsmaster

~~~
Also coag just called oats scum. There's a read.

On January 29 2014 15:09 kushm4sta wrote:
scratch that mocsta's back to scum

On January 29 2014 15:43 kushm4sta wrote:
whhy the fuck is everyone voting mocsta all of a sudden?

On January 29 2014 15:54 kushm4sta wrote:
just realized mocsta/bum can't both be scum because of something mocsta said about pm convos with bum.

So actually I would lynch balla since
eitehr mocsta/balla are scum and bum is town
or bum is scum and mocsta/balla are town

the first seems more likely

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 11:37 GMT
#1485
Yeah, your filter is quite a shithole tbh..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 11:39 GMT
#1488
nope. townies do not ask why people vote for their scumread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 11:40 GMT
#1489
and if you say the last post does not say mocsta is mafia then you make misleading posts because you clearly say "the first one is more likely" which means you think it's likely that balla and mocsta are mafai, which means you think mocsta is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 11:43 GMT
#1492
On January 29 2014 20:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
nope. townies do not ask why people vote for their scumread.

Why are you concerned about 2 votes on your scumread?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 29 2014 11:46 GMT
#1494
let me be more specific.
why are you concerned about 2 votes on your scumread who is more scummy than bumatlarge who also has 2 votes?
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