Golden Sun: The Lost Age Mafia Djinn Edition

On May 21 2014 06:02 Xatalos wrote:


Based on this, Steveling is scum.

On May 21 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote:


Steveling you feel comfortable or uncomfortable this game?

On May 21 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to bed a very odd game with so many I don't know.
In other news I'm getting real sick of rolling VT in massive theme-style games (or games in general). Really fucking boring.
Gonna be the same basic formula: either I suck balls and get left alive forever and get demoralized and whatnot, or I get a flash of genius and play well and get killed earlyish. The latter means I gotta try though and even then there are no guarantees. Blehhhhhhhhhhh

K so first order of business:
##vote: holyflare

On May 21 2014 06:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Is this normal forum play to just vote whoever you want within the first five minutes of the game?

Cause that seems kind of redundant, and stupid.

On May 21 2014 06:28 Koshi wrote:

I might have meant descended. It is just hard for me to grasp going downwards.

On May 21 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, I know you guys all hate RNG lynch but with 4 factions there's gonna be way more scum than usual, right? This means RNG has a much higher chance than usual of hitting scum. This is possibly the best time EVER for using RNg. Everyone lynch OdinofPergo, because statistically speaking he is scum.

On May 21 2014 06:44 kushm4sta wrote:


because the game gets very big very fast. town stops reading. and separating lazy town from scum becomes very hard.

On May 21 2014 06:50 Tehpoofter wrote:



Just don't give up if someone (read: Some donkey name tehpoofter) finds you suspicious as town please!

On May 21 2014 06:48 Steveling wrote:
I will now call upon my previous town game where I was the only player to vote for scum the entire game, lmao, and I played like I didn't give a fuck, like I will do in this game.

So, for everyone who has ever played with me, you should know that I'm town as town can possibly town.

On May 21 2014 06:57 Koshi wrote:

I gave you a townread for it

On May 21 2014 07:00 Koshi wrote:

We totes should play dotos again this weekend.

How is wisp going?

On May 21 2014 07:07 Holyflare wrote:


nah bro ez town ez life, i see you said you are gonna play like last game but you've already started giving reasons for a read that's like 180 on your last game

On May 21 2014 07:12 WaveofShadow wrote:

Plz Koshi. I am WaveofShadow Unchained.
Without the gun, of course.

On May 21 2014 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
nobody cares steve ~_~

On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care

On May 21 2014 07:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

steve mang

gonna need more than that son

On May 21 2014 07:23 Holyflare wrote:
yeh well i dislike that don't actually you know.. play mafia

On May 21 2014 07:25 marvellosity wrote:

lol if you got offended by that, you're in for a tough game, my friend.

On May 21 2014 07:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
I like you Steve.
Sorry HF you've broken my heart too many times.
I haz a new bestie.

On May 21 2014 07:32 Holyflare wrote:
yes please do

##unvote
##vote steveling

On May 21 2014 07:43 Holyflare wrote:



despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns

On May 21 2014 07:47 Holyflare wrote:


^^^ case in point


anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng

On May 21 2014 07:48 Valenius wrote:


If you add in newbie games, we just lynch town/any claimed power roles. ezpz

On May 21 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:


wtf is your problem??

bh wants to rng which is usually a 25% chance to mafia
normal lynching by poe has a 40%+ chance to hit mafia

i'm the retard right

On May 21 2014 07:53 Holyflare wrote:
ok right w/e please just policy this guy so i can get on with my life

On May 21 2014 07:57 Holyflare wrote:


how is playing the game by normal lynching people "scum serving" if it's a higher % chance to lynch scum than rng...? i can't comprehend your line of thought

On May 21 2014 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
ok i'm actually just going to fully ignore you for the rest of the game ~_~

On May 21 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:



So lets say we had an RNG shot and a lynch. BUT you could only base one on RNG. Who do you find scummy in this thread so far that you would have to way in on for the non-RNG portion?

On May 21 2014 08:50 Holyflare wrote:
ok look bh does this rng thing as any alignment so i suggest moving off of bh for a while

On May 21 2014 08:50 Holyflare wrote:
wait till he claims a role that's already flipped and then kill him

On May 21 2014 11:17 layabout wrote:
holy shit in 7 hours or so steveling has a 4 page filter

the shitting up has to stop

On May 21 2014 11:33 Alakaslam wrote:

I didn't like tambo's massive post. Also I am unsure how genuine geript is being.

Marv, I dunno why he is defending me, so small suspicion there. I really haven't read much though. Versus lurking I have been shopping and stuff, and work required a lot of phone tiday.

On May 21 2014 11:34 Alakaslam wrote:

Gogo gadget masochism!

On May 21 2014 11:40 layabout wrote:

That level of posting would give us over a hundred pages (you are at the top of the 4th page), keeping up your presence and keep the thread active are generally good things but this is destructive, anti-town and it just pisses me off. Your rate of posting is too high for how little you are doing, you aren't moving things forward you are trashing the thread.

On May 21 2014 11:41 Holyflare wrote:


honestly i don't care, he absolutely ruined the last game for because he was doing the same thing as this game and thought it was good despite him being the giant ? in that game because he just didn't play and subsequently got mislynched, if he's going to completely do the same thing in this game i just want him to die because he should not be playing

On May 21 2014 11:45 Holyflare wrote:
it's not trash talk i'm updating hapa on why i'm voting you because you're doing the exact same things and this game i'm town so really you are playing completely anti win-con this game (which is what you were doing last game too) and until you learn to respect that and actually play mafia then i'll say what i feel like

On May 21 2014 11:50 austinmcc wrote:
Steveling, i'm gonna ask you THREE question.

You're going to pick TWO to answer.

Then you answer those two questions and get to ask me TWO questions. Yesssssssssssssssssssssss.

(1) What's the BEST post hapa has made and the WORST post?
(2) Is there anyone in this game that you've played like...a chunk of games with? Who do you think you know BEST?
(3) What are you thoughts on Meapak?

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Geript, I know it doesn't need saying, but don't shoot marv. No blessings.

On May 21 2014 11:50 austinmcc wrote:
Steveling, i'm gonna ask you THREE question.

You're going to pick TWO to answer.

Then you answer those two questions and get to ask me TWO questions. Yesssssssssssssssssssssss.

(1) What's the BEST post hapa has made and the WORST post?
(2) Is there anyone in this game that you've played like...a chunk of games with? Who do you think you know BEST?
(3) What are you thoughts on Meapak?

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Geript, I know it doesn't need saying, but don't shoot marv. No blessings.

On May 21 2014 11:50 Hapahauli wrote:


The problem with his post isn't necessarily that every little bit of info is terrible. The problem is the presentation and scope.

Firstly, it's almost designed to be the least efficient/effective way of communicating one's reads/information. When a townie finds someone suspicious, they are generally direct about it "I find <xxx> town, and <yyy> suspicious, for <zzz> reason." However this post is just a clusterfuck. His reads are buried in the middle of irrelevant banter, and hell he changes his mind on reads of the course of his post!

The post is not designed to be helpful - it's designed to be massive and showy. Ergo, he's trying to appear like he's contributing without actually contributing.

Secondly, the scope of the post is just a mess. He just finds random things in the thread that he doesn't agree with and is really snarky about them. That's a really common mafia tactic - to find a bunch of things to critique/shit-on in the thread. It gives the effect of making one appear to contribute, when in reality, nitpicking several posters is generally easy, creates paranoia, and serves no real constructive purpose to actually finding mafia.

On May 21 2014 08:13 Hapahauli wrote:


Are you trolling me or are you serious? Pulling publicly-available information from the OP does not make someone town.

Also, why do you have your vote on the most obvious townie in the thread?

On May 21 2014 12:02 austinmcc wrote:
Now you gotta ask me questions steveling

On May 21 2014 12:11 Yell0w wrote:
First I kind of wish poofter gave a reason for voting me, that'd be nice.



I don't know how that's suspicious, I've hated the way you've been posting since the start of the game, I just didn't comment on it because I hoped you would stop talking.

On May 21 2014 12:40 mtamburini wrote:


Dislike this ALOT. You cannot be taught to be town you just are. Mafia has to try and act town.

On May 21 2014 12:57 Cavalinho wrote:


It's because your scum posts are based on making other feel smart rather than making you look like an idiot.

On May 21 2014 13:06 Cavalinho wrote:
Rofl, I just realized that Steveling is scum this game.

On May 21 2014 13:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Isn't that the color mafia usually wears?

On May 21 2014 13:49 WaveofShadow wrote:

Sorry Steve, it's a pretty exclusive club. We kicked some out of it not too long ago I think.
Here's your consolation prize though.

On May 21 2014 13:56 Holyflare wrote:
i feel out of the loop wow

On May 21 2014 13:59 Tehpoofter wrote:


Mtamburini is a girl as well.

On May 21 2014 14:05 Holyflare wrote:


well my policy > my own wagon on yellow PP

still want steve to start contributing because he isn't atm

On May 21 2014 14:12 Cavalinho wrote:


Because he's scum.

And also because he's trying to hide and he's posting a lot of questions aimed at making feel superior. Hence, he is a mafia trying to get people to ignore him and blend in.

On May 21 2014 14:19 Holyflare wrote:


explain why it's scummy please

On May 21 2014 14:22 Holyflare wrote:


so why is that scummy? either it's vivax or it's not and if it is vivax then it's more scummy because it was an awful entry post that i don't think vivax would make as town

On May 21 2014 14:37 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Very well: but I'm keeping my vote where it is, and everyone is going to have to just deal with that.

I can respect everyone has different play and way they get their reads, so I guess I'll just have to wait until you step up your game later in order to get a better read on you.

And with that, I'm off for the night. I'll check forum a bit before work tomorrow, and be more active after work, so if you don't hear from me for awhile, that's why.

See you gentlemen later!

On May 21 2014 14:46 Tehpoofter wrote:


You still think HF is mafia? Am I maf for reading him townie?

On May 22 2014 02:46 Blazinghand wrote:


oh, feeling nervous are we? realizing slowly that we're dealing with a blue, not a VT, are we?

On May 22 2014 02:51 Holyflare wrote:


is this some kind of joke?

On May 22 2014 02:51 Holyflare wrote:


is this some kind of joke?

On May 22 2014 03:08 sqrtofneg1 wrote:

You claimed vig.

On May 22 2014 03:26 geript wrote:

I'd rather lynch you. It'd be hella more fun

On May 22 2014 03:38 geript wrote:

I was implicating you being a complete dumbass; which is essentially HF's case on you. That as town, it's worth to kill you because you add nothing beneficial ever under any circumstances and there's more benefit to policy lynch you to raise the collective IQ.

On May 22 2014 03:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Steeveling and Geript - can both of you stop repeatedly flamebaiting each other? It's completely useless thread content, and you're probably both town arguing with each other like idiots.

On May 22 2014 04:39 Holyflare wrote:


so you don't think steveling is town? because that's what i've been saying

On May 22 2014 04:42 sqrtofneg1 wrote:

Near the beginning of the game, no, you were saying that steveling was mafia.

On May 22 2014 05:02 Holyflare wrote:
i'm also not going to speculate about names and alignments of those names until i see more than one faction/person/name flip

On May 22 2014 05:14 Blazinghand wrote:


go do something anatomically surprising with yourself

On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:


Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc.

Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless.

On May 22 2014 08:34 WaveofShadow wrote:

Do you really think (assuming you are in fact town) that what you are describing is a likely scenario?

On May 22 2014 08:40 geript wrote:

So you didn't see the shitfest post gum's "I swear on my life" comment? Seriously? Like he got into it with both Rayn and Gumshoe. Like the more he posts the more I'm interested in eating my own vomit because it's better. Like the games are similar and once I caught on to that and saw how dumb town he was playing, which btw is the same thing he did in cell, I quit sheeping your read.

On April 08 2014 07:52 Koshi wrote:


Pretty wp by scumteam btw. Steveling wouldn't be caught wasn't it for the warnings and swear on life. Palmar was very strong. I fucking knew poofter was scum for that early shit. I fucking told rayn but w.evs. Cephiro wouldn't be caught unless it was lynchday on their cell and we did PoE, LSB pretty strong as well but rayn meta read fucked me over.

On April 08 2014 07:37 Promethelax wrote:
I'm pretty impressed with this scum team, this set up is IMO quite town favoured and having Palmar in the d1 group was about as bad as it possibly could have been for scum since he had the most influence of any scum member.

This set-up needs to have a better way of dealing with modkills, they are too drastic in the cell lynches and even become more swingy than usual which adds to my frustration at people getting themselves modkilled. I've never been a fan of people intentionally getting modkilled and it was even worse in this set-up. I am quite put off by the players who would be willing to do this to their team. I want to want to play with you all but this self modkill thing become the meta on this site really drives me away from playing here.

Big props to steveling for handling his scum-slipping anger situation better than could be expected of anyone. He played this out incredibly and I look forward to seeing his play in the future.

Sorry I didn't get flavour done for all the posts, I had a really fun plan that ended up not happening because I was swamped by school work and also am a lazy asshole.

As I say, I'd be interested in seeing this game play out in an environment where people committed to not getting themselves modkilled since the game was essentially ruined by that behaviour. I do think the mayoral election should be only 24 hours though if this set up is run again. This was a little too time consuming this time and I'd like to see a quicker jump into the first lynch instead of the whole ridiculous mayoral hullabaloo which encompassed the thread for a large portion of time anyone was actually paying attention.

On May 22 2014 08:57 Holyflare wrote:
the only reason i wouldn't lynch you was because rayn claimed scum, no offence

On May 22 2014 09:01 geript wrote:
Oh right. Scumeling only got angry and rumbled with both Rayn and Gum. Wasn't a shitfights that he retracted himself from at all.

On May 22 2014 09:07 geript wrote:

I bore of flame baiting scum. Can we lynch it already?

On May 22 2014 09:32 Holyflare wrote:


Don't mind it how? Where have I "shit up the thread" apart from the start with steveling? Where has hapa EVER shit up the thread instead of giving reads? This is totally out of the blue and so far from the truth I cannot comprehend how anyones view can be like this at the present time. Let alone worthy of mentioning in a post containing scum reads.

On May 22 2014 10:47 Cavalinho wrote:


I'm confident that you're going to get shot tonight, so why bother trying to lynch you?

I've seen nothing to make me change my read on you. Have fun being dead.

On May 22 2014 10:51 Cavalinho wrote:


Go reread my case. Nothing I think about you matters anymore.

On May 22 2014 10:55 Cavalinho wrote:
Holy shit you're annoying.

On May 22 2014 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:


I'm kinda wondering if he can legitimately be as angry as he seems this game. Is he usually like this?

On May 22 2014 11:37 Holyflare wrote:


i for one understand his annoyance (hence the early game me vs steve) but i'd like him to start branching out a bit

On May 22 2014 11:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

Dude
Dude
Have you ever played mafia before? It's more than possible for scum to have large filters, and spammy and shitting up the thread is a legitimate scum tactic.

Just because you're active doesn't mean what you are contributing is valuable or even helpful.

On May 22 2014 11:47 kitaman27 wrote:


Just realized that I remember Cav from one of the newbie games. He totally gets worked up like this as town.

On May 22 2014 11:51 Holyflare wrote:
no absolutely you go after me if you think i'm scum, don't drop it because a player whose alignment you have no idea about asks you to look elsewhere

On May 22 2014 11:55 Holyflare wrote:


well if i was annoyed at you for last game and i was mafia and i won because i could push a mislynch on you i can only imagine what cav would feel like if you started doing the same thing in this game (he was town in that game for anyone else wondering) it would put me in a fowl mood for every single post of yours that i read, like it did for me at the start. It's also frustrating to not be listened to when you're in a mindset like that

On May 22 2014 12:00 Holyflare wrote:
point out where cav admitted you were right though i'd like to look at that because afaik he just conceded that you wouldn't get lynched but instead would get shot

On May 22 2014 12:11 Cavalinho wrote:


I never admitted you were right. You're deliberately ignoring the points I was making in my earlier case and you're just saying "no im town ur wrong."

Every single thing you're trying to accuse me of doing is something you're doing, and I'm desperately trying to find something else to focus on besides you shitting up the thread with nonsense.

Now, if you don't mind, I'm going to try to read someone else now.

On May 22 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
So like, you just got proven that you in fact were lying and I was telling the truth and you go attack cav again????

On May 22 2014 12:15 Holyflare wrote:
No cav absolutely do not do that, ignore him and look elsewhere.

On May 22 2014 12:34 Holyflare wrote:
am i to be expecting a giant post of reads today?

On May 22 2014 12:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
i'll take any requests though as long as they're interesting and don't have anything to do with geript, bh, or steve

On May 22 2014 13:45 BlueyD wrote:
Here comes the master of rng... Willing to bet BH's blue claim is fake again.

Steve I'd lynch you over both of these.

On May 22 2014 14:19 Holyflare wrote:
yeh 7/32 so strong

On May 22 2014 14:31 Holyflare wrote:



how do you account for this then?

On May 22 2014 14:42 Holyflare wrote:


your profile is insane

On May 22 2014 15:23 OnceKing wrote:

this is a pretty cool question
whatcha got steve

On May 22 2014 15:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
HF and steve are both misusing/trying to manipulate basic mafia terminology and I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You boys should take your beef back to the newbie games for a bit.

On May 22 2014 15:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

Let them. Who gives a fuck it's online mafia. If they're making rational arguments and you're town then you should be able to refute them, if you're scum well good luck, sometimes you argue your way out sometimes you don't. But if the person coming after you sounds like a madman then nobody will listen and everyone will probably think that person is scummy. But if you think the person is a madman and everyone else is agreeing with them I'll give you a hint, it's probably not them it's you.

On May 22 2014 16:04 WaveofShadow wrote:

PALMAR?
LOL

On May 22 2014 16:38 MysteryMeat1 wrote:



There isnts even a single vote for me...