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On May 17 2014 07:07 Tehpoofter wrote: /in Hiiiiiiiiii | ||
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People playing cause I'm playing?! I feel so special!!!! Also, i hope i don't regret playing this AND cell mafia at the same time. | ||
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On May 20 2014 23:10 Xatalos wrote:  | ||
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On May 21 2014 06:01 Steveling wrote: MY GUARDIAN BALLS ARE HEAVY! That sounds very much gross and too much information. On another note! Hey everyone!!!! Super hyped about this game!!! Even though I have no idea what game series this is! | ||
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What kind of water? The water that gently touches the beaches on a nice breezy summer day, or the water you find during a hurricane that's ready to capsize a boat and kill anyone in its' path? | ||
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Cause that seems kind of redundant, and stupid. | ||
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On May 21 2014 06:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Sadly, this is very normal for forum play. I agree sadly. On the holyflare thing, if he's scum, why would no one lynch him? I'd lynch HF in a heartbeat if he aligned with mafia. | ||
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On May 21 2014 06:17 Tehpoofter wrote: You're redundant. Also whats the issue of voting a bunch? Its not majority lynch the lynch matters who is ahead at the END of the day besides its fun. Also there is practical uses like it puts pressure on people to start talking and such. Shots. Actually, that made no sense. I don't think there's an issue with voting a bunch, within reason.I also know it's a end of the day plurality lynch. But because the game had just started, and with so many people in the game, there are going to be people who don't talk and lurk in the shadows. It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages. | ||
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On May 21 2014 06:19 Tehpoofter wrote: lynch Tamburini with me bunnies so we can have a counter wagon going to holyflare. Oh I'd lynch tamburini in a heartbeat regardless of his alignment. Tamburini always scum/always bad for town. But sorry, I'm not voting yet.  | ||
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On May 21 2014 06:26 geript wrote: Suck it. I rolled vig. Want to make sure I don't shoot you today? Geript with that day 1 vig claim!!! How much you wanna bet it's a vt fake claiming? | ||
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On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote: You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to ome out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. | ||
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On May 21 2014 06:29 Tehpoofter wrote: Girls can totally vote now. They made it a law back awhile ago. You should exercise your power! Omg it's a law?! I totally didn't know this. I like to make educated guesses and decisions before I vote. Cool, calm, calculated. Do I have to worry about you being mafia here? | ||
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On May 21 2014 06:35 geript wrote: With as often as you roll scum I may just have to policy shoot you. Or maybe I'll just shoot bunnies once she calls you a role. I haven't really decided quite yet. I'm just fucking stoked. Just because I read him super well in video mafia, doesn't mean It transfers here. However, even if I do read him as a role, not like Ima out that shit or anything. Let's NOT give mafia an advantage here. | ||
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On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote: Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. | ||
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Do you have anything more to contribute? Basically saying Hello and this going to be difficult is not protown or helping in any way. | ||
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On May 21 2014 06:57 Koshi wrote: WoS probably town, that whiny thing about the VT thing looked legit. Just because he does it each time. Steveling also town. gutread. Poofter dnu. Your Master has spoken his first words of Wisdom. I agree on Steveling, now. He's coming off more town with his last few posts. The other two still up in the air for me. | ||
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On May 21 2014 07:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: @thrawn: plz tell me you're trying to be lynch bait as part of a plan to catch the people who go after you. Well if that was the plan, no one's gonna follow it now! Though I don't like how thrawn was defensive there. 7 pages of people talking, and he has nothing to say? Is that his usual play? | ||
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On May 21 2014 07:05 Holyflare wrote: bunnies talked about mafia definitely being present in game so also mafia So me pointing out that there are probably a few mafia that are present, makes me mafia? Cause I would so point out something that indicates myself as mafia. | ||
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Then realized he meant me. How disappointing. I wish I was as awesome as boone. | ||
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Im pretty sure he meant "don't know" | ||
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Well, well, yell0w. We meet again. You just salty I called you scum first day for you calling yourself mafia. Good thing I pulled off of you that game. Let's not make the same mistake twice, yeah? | ||
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@Meapak- yeah, im a her. | ||
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I don't necessarily like thrawn. Not talking isn't productive for town. Whether he's stubborn town or straight up mafia, I'd lynch him in a heartbeat. I also want to hear more from Jamp. He seems to be focussing on the 'reads' that I said I had within the first couple of pages, and then questions someone else on what they think about my reads, yet he hasn't really said anything about what he thinks. Also, why is he focussing on my reads? Not saying mine are bad, but im a new player, one he hasn't played with. So why does it matter necessarily what I think? | ||
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On May 21 2014 07:22 Steveling wrote: ##unbote ##bote: Holyflare Either your v doesn't work, or you don't know how to spell  | ||
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Or atleast day 1. | ||
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On May 21 2014 07:28 jampidampi wrote: Before I continue, were you annoyed with my guestions? No, questions are good. They get reads. Reads are good. So the questions were not annoying. I was more annoyed by the fact you said I was avoiding what you were asking. I think I had made it clear as to why. But please continue. I want to hear more. | ||
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On May 21 2014 07:31 jampidampi wrote: To be clear, you were annouyed at me when you wrote this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=19#366 right? Nah, not annoyed at all. Sorry if it came off that way. I meant it more in a joking manner. | ||
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On May 21 2014 07:37 geript wrote: So far: Marv-- has done nothing for my peepee. Usually as town he either makes it hard because he's obviously town or I think he's obviously mafia. Considering a shot. His push on Xat is pretty awful to, like there's little reason to expect Xat to flip scum on that basis. Bunnies--I have a decent read on her in video. She's not done anything that makes me think she's town. She's also refusing to try to correctly read Banks as anything. That's really weird and her last post was awful. Austin--he has yet to intercede to ABBA on behalf of my shot. That's pretty clearly mafia aligned. I'm very tempted to shoot him but he promised me cuddles and to carry me over the finish line. Kush--probably town unfortunately. Koshi--possibly town but I expected a more fun/playful response to my "are you naked" question. That's odd to me. Wave--I'm soul reading my wubbybumpkins town. Steveling--maybe town. Idk I think he's decentish as scum but he doesn't really strike me as the active chipper I want to do stuff type. HF--hasn't commented on how he's the best ever and that we should policy lynch me before I get to shoot. Like that's pretty odd if he's town I would've expected some actual dickwaging in this trolling phase. BH-- nothing he's done makes me think he's a good player. I thought he was awful last game and he was mafia. Same vibes here. He just looks like he's trash to be disposed of. So I'm probably shooting within my scum pool tonight if you all don't sheep me. I'd much rather get info from a good lynch first though. I want to point out: video mafia and forum mafia are two different aspects of mafia. Two: Just because I can read Banks well in video mafia, does not mean it transfers to forum. Also, he hasn't spoken too much for me to have a great read on him. But some things I noticed: his vote on tamburini and his trying to get me to vote with him. These are reasons that I used when I told Jamp that he was one of the ones I was watching for as him being mafia from the first couple of pages. | ||
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On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote: Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here: She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post? + Show Spoiler + For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash. @Jamp I disagree that I was defensive. So I had two choices here in responding to you: I continue to "avoid" your question as you say I did, and I get read as mafia for avoiding the question, or I go ahead and let you know where my head is at and respond. I think yes, we definitely have a mafia or two within the first couple of pages. Tehpoofter, steve, and WOS were the ones that I were considering first out of the ones that have talked the first couple of pages, but my reads, as I'm sure you have seen since I talked about you and thrawn, have changed since then. And I'm not pulling out the newbie card. I haven't played with most of you, yes, but that I am a "newbie" doesn't matter. I've played plenty of mafia to know what I'm doing regardless of my alignment, so using the newbie card is stupid imo. + Show Spoiler + On May 21 2014 07:42 kitaman27 wrote: ![[image loading]](http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120309173425/goldensun/images/thumb/b/ba/GSHeart.jpg/240px-GSHeart.jpg) Chalis (ハート Heart) is an antagonist in Golden Sun: Dark Dawn. Together with Blados, she is one of the commanders of a secretive military nation named Tuaparang. All three are bad guys taunting us in the thread. I rest my case. @Kita Haha, that is so awesome! If I actually knew this series, I would probably lynch myself for it. The fact I used heartbeat 3 times is just ridiculous! + Show Spoiler + On May 21 2014 07:44 Blazinghand wrote: so, 27nb, what are your thoughts on the possibility of an RNG lynch on OdinofPergo today? You haven't weighed in on my RNG posts. @BH: I'm not sure tbh. RNG seems like an okay thing to do, especially with factions and the huge amount of possible scum we could have. But then again it's COULD have. But I like to lynch based off of reads and whom I find scummy or pretty certain are mafia. I don't even know if Odin has talked today, so I'd prob won't lynch him yet. | ||
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On May 21 2014 07:56 jampidampi wrote: It still kinda baffles me that you could ignore such a heavy contrast to your generalization about bunnies play. Makes me think that you didn't actually put that much thought into it, which makes me think you might be scum. It's soon 2 AM here, so see you all tomorrow @ MZ :It wasn't necessarily a straight clearing, and it has nothing to do with the fact you lightly town read me. I like your reads, your questioning, and where your posts are going, they seem more townie to me. That's why I said I wouldn't lynch you day 1, but the other days are open. | ||
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BH is more likely town here. Putting himself in the spotlight of town would be stupid as mafia unless he has many partners or knows he can get multiple mislynches within the next couple of days if he has town support and it's worth his lynch. But BH is pushing a losing cause here. He doesn't have much of support at all. | ||
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On May 21 2014 08:33 kushm4sta wrote: This seems like very surface level thinking to me. Why wouldn't scum want to do what they do every game? Why don't scum want to put themselves in the spotlight? Activity looks townie. Surface level, I suppose. You think he is scum,yes? Does he do this as every game he is scum, or does he do this as both alignments? I've not seen BH play before, so yeah, he could probably be mafia here putting himself in town's spotlight because he is as good as he says he is. But I don't know. I'm only telling you what I think, where I think his play is at the moment. Activity does look townie. But regardless of mafia or town alignment you want to look townie. | ||
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On May 21 2014 08:43 Tehpoofter wrote: You've seen me play mafia before bunnies on video mafia I come out and just take over and do silly stuff because like BH here I think its very hard for me to get lynched as either alignment... clearly he is quite certain of himself and his playstyle so I think someone who has his persona might do something like this regardless of alignment because he can. Do you see that correlation? For what its worth I like what you have to say about thrawn his posts so far have been nothing. Yeah, you do silly stuff regardless of your alignment. But I understand what you mean. So BH, if you are so good as you say you are, besides you pushing RNG, what reads do you have outside of that? | ||
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On May 21 2014 08:49 Blazinghand wrote: If RNG really seems okay to do, you'd do it regardless of whether or not someone else talks. The whole point of RNG is it's just based on that. As I said, I like to base where I vote because of the way I am reading that person. RNG, while could work, I don't want to do it. Like I said, you don't have a lot of support for this. And I'd rather find scum based on their play than a mechanical, statistical "game" you are trying to push here. | ||
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On May 21 2014 08:50 Blazinghand wrote: OdinofPergo is scum. Let's get him. Why all the resistance? What has he done this game to convince you he's town? Odin hasn't spoken. And the resistance is because you could easily be pushing a ML on a possible role. Or even if he's vanilla town it's still a mislynch. Like I said, I would rather lynch him based off his play. He hasn't spoken yet, but im willing to give him a chance. If he doesn't prove anything, I wouldn't be opposed to lynching him. | ||
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On May 21 2014 08:57 Blazinghand wrote: Well for now, why don't you vote him? He hasn't proved anything yet, and it's not like you can't unvote him later. It would help me with wrangling votes since everyone is like "yeah rng sounds good but you have no votes", i want them not to have an excuse. Don't give them an excuse. BH, I'm not some little newbie you can sway. My vote will go on someone who I think is scum at the moment I place my vote, and not before. | ||
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On May 21 2014 09:08 sqrtofneg1 wrote: My reads so far: Jampidampi - Mafia. Bunnies - Town. Yellow - Town. Koshi - Town. BH - Town, but I don't like his RNG thingy. Holyflare - Mafia. I will explain if asked to explain, there's so many people, I'm too lazy to write everything up. Lazy town is not productive town. Neither is lazy mafia. Prove to me you're the first. | ||
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On May 21 2014 09:12 Tehpoofter wrote: I'm going to treat BH like Chompsy. So bunnies what do you think of Yellow going along with the BH plan? You played with him before ya? Also @Hapa I like what you said on Valenius he also since then just added on about BH's random lynch bs. Adding fluff onto fluff. ##Vote: Valenius Maybe we can play mafia instead of slot machine's like BH wants to Awww poor BH. Nobody wants to be treated like Chompsy. So I initially read this post + Show Spoiler + On May 21 2014 06:49 Yell0w wrote: So about this whole RNG thing, aren't scum players more likely to vote for OdinofPergo if he isn't in their faction since they don't even need a reason to vote him? They can just claim they're doing it for RNG and get a lynch on someone who isn't aligned with them? Wouldn't a better way be to each claim we are RNG voting, then use the RNG on the post in which we claimed it and then vote for whomever our own post said? So that there is no way to know if you're going to lynch someone of your own faction or not so it's riskier for scum to go by RNG? Maybe I'm completely wrong here. | ||
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On May 21 2014 09:20 sqrtofneg1 wrote: The game is moving too fast to write up detailed stuff like that. You haven't posted many reads, are you being more productive? I think I'm being productive. I'm posting and questioning where I think I need to be questioning. I've posted some reads. Mostly who I think is town, and why. Town: BH, MZ, Yell0w Mafia: Jamp and thrawn Fenced: TehPoof, WOS, and Steveling (tho the last one leading more town) | ||
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On May 21 2014 09:23 Holyflare wrote: ^ against the idea of rng no posts since first post that indicate that his opinion has changed other than his idea not working contradiction? Yell0w contradicted himself the recent game I played with him, I called him out on it, and he jokingly called himself mafia. Turns out he was town. I wouldn't read too much into the contradiction now, but maybe in the future. | ||
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On May 21 2014 09:27 marvellosity wrote: hey bunnies, can you tell me how you feel in this game compared to your newbie game you just finished? like your comfort level or similar? I'm feeling pretty good about this game. There's a lot more people, some who are way more experienced than last game I played, but I'm not too worried about it. | ||
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On May 21 2014 09:28 mtamburini wrote: Geript is taking a page from my playbook obviously. Bunnies you still sour I made that claim? Bunnies you got soooooooooooo mad when people wouldnt answer your questions in the newbie game, why dont you answer jamps? Are you saying you read his body better than his tone? There are similarities between the 2 meduims of mafia and I know you play a lot of epic mafia and can read through BS content so I really dislike your response to geript. This post made my brain bleed. Not sure if mafia or just likes posting scummy things as town... Yellow give me a goddamn bone here there are other people I would like to tunnel on. Defensive bunnies is defensive, GMEOY. You know you are allowed to be wrong right? Bunnies looking to put pressure else and off of her, looooooking sccummy again. ARE YOU HAPPY TO BE PLAYING IN THIS GAME? YOU DONT SOUND LIKE IT HOLYFLARE! @bunnies Why not? Would be a great play until you get cop checked. OMFG WE GOT EM BOYS SARCASM = MAFIA, look at her post in newbie game *dances in chair* Appealing to emotion, wants us to feel sorry she is not as good as boone but I think her forum play > boones video play. Your fake sadness will not trick me! More like Do not understand! Trying to read tehpoofter in any mafia game is difficult. I think this medium will be easier to read him. So far still leaning scummy. And bunnies is also still scummy. FINALLY SOME LOGIC THANK YOU YELLOW! No it means your mafia. Holy flare is on to something. He sees the same thing as me. But HOLYFLARE are you having fun yet? Hell talk when he wants to just like you said you wanted to. Why are you attacking him for something that someone did to you? I dont think you liked it but you think it was towny of you to hold back your reads. New player is no excuse you know better than that. Just because you dont know anyone doesnt mean you cant read them. Epicmafia (the site where you have over 2000 games on) are played with strangers all the time so what makes this different. I think we got a mafia here everyone. He asked you questions to get reads. You did not answer them. He got no read. So how towny have you been this game on a scale of 0 to mafia bunnies? Shit me and bunnies agreed on something...... Do I really have to reevaluate you? Ive read up to the Hearthstone video. Thus far. My head hurts just from trying to pick out everything that was posted towards me. Damn, tamburini. If you are mafia here gj, cause that was one hell of a post!!!! So let's talk about a few of these, shall we. 1.) Nah, not sour. I agreed it was a really good play. 2.) I didn't want to answer jamps, because I wasn't too sure on my read of a few of them, as it was still early in the game. Yes, I know I'm allowed to be wrong, but I would like to be atleast a bit logic before I start calling people scum. 3.) I like reading Banks' body: It's easy to do so. While there are similarities between the two types of mafia, there's a lot more you can hide within text than with voice inflection and body language. 4.) It's not that I was taking pressure off of me, by all means, you want to put pressure on me, bring it on. I've not played with thrawn, but the way he came in, barely said anything when there were multiple pages of things that could be talked on, and said he wasn't going to talk, well that's not helping town in anyway! 5) I love sarcasm. Sarcasm is the shit. What I pushed on yell0w was not for sarcasm. He claimed mafia. Im not about to let that shit slide. And he had contradictions in his posts. Others were reading it as joking, I was not. Atleast I clarified what I said was sarcasm. 6) Awwww, I'm flattered. My forum game is that good? Damn. Just let me jump in your pocket here. 7) With epicmafia games, I'm a bit more trolley. This is a forum game, something Im going to play for days/weeks. I'm a bit mroe calculated here cause in epicmafia I really don't care. It's a thirty minute game. If I'm going to spend hours a day for weeks contemplating reads, votes, I want to have substantial information behind it all. 8) On a scale of 0-town, I am town. Not mafia, so yes, you do need to re-evaluate me. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Jdvdr.gif) give yourself a hand for that. | ||
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On May 21 2014 10:17 Cephiro wrote: ##Vote: 27ninjabunnies 27 ninja bunnies are more than enough to kill most of the players in this game. "I have my reasons to believe" that these bunnies are not aligned with town. She is a threat. Would lynch with all my heart. Also BH, I RNG'ed my opinion about your RNG lynch, and the die said yes. So I'll get onto the wagon after this threat of ninjus is dealt with. Like usual, I am the power that holds the balance together, meaning I can yet again do a lot of cool stuff to get rid of people with. Town for the win. I won't allow any other factions to join in, a few individuals at most if they get on their knees and beg, with a proper offering and succeeding in a mission given to them. Hi there. I may have an army of ninja bunnies at my disposal, but I assure you they are protecting town, not trying to kill them. So, why are you reading me mafia? This is your first post, and you vote on me. What are your reasons? | ||
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On May 21 2014 10:23 Holyflare wrote: what's with everyone dropping the major heart references? No idea!!!! We just really believe I guess. Lol THERE'S SO MUCH LOVE IN THIS FORUM!!! ![[image loading]](http://data2.whicdn.com/images/115922375/large.jpg) | ||
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On May 21 2014 10:27 Cephiro wrote: Confirming one thing, are you asking for my reasons as for: 1) Why I'm reading you as mafia? 2) Why I'm voting on you? Well I assume you are voting me because you are reading me as mafia. So, why are you reading me as mafia? | ||
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On May 21 2014 10:39 Cephiro wrote: I will have to respond to your question with another to stay true to my motives. If I didn't consider you as mafia, why would I be voting for you? Even if my replies seem very off to you, please do respond. You're under evaluation. If you don't consider me as mafia, you shouldn't be voting me. The only reason outside of you considering me as mafia for why you would vote for me is this: you want to get a read on me via my reactions to your voting on me to see if I react poorly or more town favored. This is only used if you don't have a read on me from what I've previously posted. This can also lead to reads from other people if they begin questioning you or agreeing with you. So again, why are you reading me as mafia? | ||
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On May 21 2014 10:54 Cephiro wrote: EBWOP: I can't seem to format for my life. One last question before I will answer your question. I already know you read me as town. If you had a strong scumread on me however, would you go all-out to make me the lynch of the day right away? I like how confident you are in yourself. As for reading you as town, that's yet to be determined. If I had a strong scumread on you, yes, I would probably push on you to get you lynched. As for right away, it depends. If I think I can have support, I'll push right away. If I don't think I'll have any support, I'd need t find evidence that can prove or atleast put into speculation that you are mafia. So, your answer? | ||
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Sure it was only focused on certain people, one of them including me, but its nt unlikely for him to include me specifically in his reads because we play video mafia together. Some of his reads were pretty good, and I like it questioning, though I completely agree some of it was filler. | ||
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On May 21 2014 11:45 Cephiro wrote:+ Show Spoiler + First up, the thoughts behind my questioning. While initially reading the thread I noticed 27ninja is a very cooperative person. Which is why I started the whole exchange with her. On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote: If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. She takes part in the discussion a lot and actively, aiming to contribute (or look like contributing.) On May 21 2014 07:30 27ninjabunnies wrote: No, questions are good. They get reads. Reads are good. So the questions were not annoying. I was more annoyed by the fact you said I was avoiding what you were asking. I think I had made it clear as to why. But please continue. I want to hear more. Her intention is to try and play as honestly as possible. Which again, is not a bad thing from a town perspective, but if you roll scum and try to play with the least amount of lies possible, it will be hard. The point of interest here is her admitting her annoyance to being called out on her play. She encourages others to share the reasons on hers, yet withholds her own for "reasons", are excused as: On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote: But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. While I definitely agree with the logic behind it, her reasoning doesn't seem sincere. It's as if she wants to put content into the thread, but avoid (for now), making any decisions that may come to haunt her play later. Specifically: She doesn't want to be read as scum. Obviously, no town player does, but her play is (even self-admittingly) aimed at not being read as scum. Even if you are read as scum as a townie, it doesn't mean you can't manage to prove your town-ness. Surely, it's an uphill battle, but for someone putting as much effort as her in the game seems unlikely to be _that_ scared of being a misread as a town. Rather, I feel the fear comes from other players correctly reading her as scum. Analysis break: My questions, the reasons behind it, and my conclusions of her replies. On May 21 2014 10:28 27ninjabunnies wrote: Well I assume you are voting me because you are reading me as mafia. So, why are you reading me as mafia? The first exchange. My question here aims at finding the natural level of her thought process. It may not be the best comparison, but think about chess. What I'm aiming to find here is whether she thinks about: 1) The current move 2) The reasons behind the current move 3) The follow-up to the current move Or a multitude of the above. As you can see, she instantly jumps into an assumption that I vote her because I read her as mafia. She doesn't take her thought process further (into different possibilities), into questions such as: "Would he vote for me for a reason other than suspecting me as mafia?" Instead, she takes it for granted that I suspect her to be mafia. It fits well with her wanting to play as honestly as possible, trying not to doubt the claims of others. This I feel is a trait belonging to the person. So here I establish the fact that she doesn't think things ahead. Her thought process is not zero though, but considering the current step with the information given to her comes more naturally. (There are people who naturally start thinking multiple steps ahead.) On May 21 2014 10:46 27ninjabunnies wrote: If you don't consider me as mafia, you shouldn't be voting me. The only reason outside of you considering me as mafia for why you would vote for me is this: you want to get a read on me via my reactions to your voting on me to see if I react poorly or more town favored. This is only used if you don't have a read on me from what I've previously posted. This can also lead to reads from other people if they begin questioning you or agreeing with you. So again, why are you reading me as mafia? Here is my followup. My question is intentionally aimed to hint at a possibility of thinking outside the box. As I came into the conclusion that she doesn't naturally by instinct start thinking things too many steps ahead, I wanted to see the reaction that would come after hinted towards doing such. Her response is quite interesting. She does correctly analyze on scenario, that is, if I didn't have a proper read and wanted to gain more information on her. There are many others she does not think about however. What I'm most interested in, is this crucial miss: She does not at all consider a possibility where I am scum. Ding ding, alarm bells anyone? Note how she points out that if I don't really consider her as mafia, I shouldn't be voting for her. Yet at the end of her post, she asks why I'm reading her as mafia. This means that she thinks (knows?) of me being a town player suspecting her, rather than any other possibility. Why could I not be a scum player trying to start a wagon on her? She doesn't even go through this option at all, even after being hinted to think outside the box. It's as if she knows I'm town. That's not possible unless she's scum. On to my third question: On May 21 2014 11:08 27ninjabunnies wrote: I like how confident you are in yourself. As for reading you as town, that's yet to be determined. If I had a strong scumread on you, yes, I would probably push on you to get you lynched. As for right away, it depends. If I think I can have support, I'll push right away. If I don't think I'll have any support, I'd need t find evidence that can prove or atleast put into speculation that you are mafia. So, your answer? This question was mainly to confirm. I was fairly certain that she does not intentionally downplay her ability to mislead her opponent. Combined with the logical deduction of her naturally not thinking ahead, and with her honest tendency to answer questions, I have no reason to believe she'd be lying about this one either. It would be possible to downplay or not reveal your scumread to try and trap a person into a situation which essentially confirms them as scum to other players, or many shenanigans of the kind. Her response however is strictly related to her own confidence about her read. If she's sure about her read, she'll go for it (no downplaying). If she's unsure, she'll work to be able to trust her read enough to convince others. (Upping her own play.) With this I come into the conclusion that she is not downplaying her abilities when responding to others, or in any questions that she replied to me. This is exactly why I consider the 2nd question where she does NOT EVEN CONSIDER ME AS POSSIBLE SCUM extremely alarming. Also take in consideration how interested in she is in the reasons why I suspect her to be mafia. She doesn't just ignore and wait for me to actually provide something, but she actively asks for it again and again. If not combined with the above, I would see this as a townie trait, but I feel she is trying to get to know her mistakes/flaws in early play so she doesn't make the same mistakes later on. TLDR: 1) Is afraid of being seen as scum 2) Extremely co-operative due to not wanting to be looked upon badly, refer to point 1. 3) Ignores the possibility of the player questioning her being scum. 4) When suspected, wants to know the flaws in her play to not repeat the mistake later Like literally, for one moment she doesn't think I could be scum trying to push her for mislynch. 27ninjabunnies is mafia, and needs to be lynched. My vote stays where it is. Opinions? I figured the calling me mafia was where you were going with this post. I was interested in seeing what you posted, and I have to say, I'm quite impressed. However, there are many things you are wrong within this point. Allow me to point them out. I'll also give some feedback here and there, so if my explanations seems a bit out of order, I apologize. 1) Yes, I am a cooperative person. I'm not going to be completely BM towards a person or fight over things within this forum. I don't find that productive in finding mafia. What is odd to me is why you would start an exchange with me based on me being "cooperative". 2) They say honesty is the best policy. I agree, being scum it is hard to be completely honest, actually impossible! I wasn't admitting annoyance to being called out on a play, I said I was annoyed by his play, specifically him claiming I was avoiding what he was asking, which in my opinion, I don't think I was avoiding. I ended up giing my reasons and reads anyway, so people bringing this up makes little sense to me. 3) No one wants to be read as scum. If I'm read as town, that's less likely there will be a mislynch on me, and actual mafia could be found. If there are any suspicions on me because of a certain read I made that made no sense, then that takes town off the agenda of finding mafia and having to discern whether or not I am town. 4) Just because I didn't post so in my posts, doesn't mean I am not thinking ahead. It was obvious from your initial post on me that you were reading me as scum. I wanted your reasons as to why. You hop in this thread with many other questioning going on, and single me out, and I figured you must have a reason to do so, thinking I am mafia. I did consider that you didn't have agood read from me from what I had posted within the forum in previous pages, but usually when someone votes you, you think, oh this person must think I'm mafia. What is he seeing that I nor others are seeing? You asked specifically 2 questions. And I answered those two questions. Just because I didn't answer beyond "the box" of what you wanted me to does not mean I am not thinking ahead or means I am mafia. I just refused to give you further information until you gave me information, which you did not until your huge post. 5) I don't question whether you are scum here yet because of these reasons: if you were scum, why would you single me out out of many other people who could lead harder on you or your partners? I admit I'm not leading town in any direction, nor pushing an agenda. I speak out where I feel is necessary and give reads on which I think is necessary. It's also only early in day 1, and if I have a better scum read, I could push elsewhere, as I stated in my response to you. I also specifically said I didn't know what your alignment was. Your alignment is yet to be determined. 6) I am a good mafia player because I am confident in my reads. Because I push an agenda when I feel I have one. If I don't have a good read on anyone or any certainty, why would I push on a read and mislead town? Its counterproductive. I also asked for your read on me again and again, because you kept saying you would provide it, but then continue to ask me questions. I honestly don't care why you read me as scum. I care why you think I am scum. If you have good reads behind it, then so be it. But you don't. You are basing your entire read on our interactions, and not my interactions, reads, and plays I have made in previous pages of this forum. So tldr: 1) You are completely wrong on me. 2) You play is based off of our interactions, and the way you are reading these interactions make absolutely no sense. 3) I'll push on scum when I feel ready and confident in my reads. | ||
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On May 21 2014 12:15 Holyflare wrote: fuck fuck sqrt got me i have a good reason though you see, i was thinking like "fuck, i'm quite hungry but it's like 4am what do i doooo" so then i saw there were some left over hula hoops and i was like "oh sweet pretty unhealthy but i'll take what i can get" and then i was like "shit brainwave" so i got out some crunchy peanut butter and i've been dipping hula hoops in it and MY GOD IT'S THE BEST THING IN THE WORLD Totally not related to anything in this game, but what the hell are hula hoops? Like, I know the hulahoops we use here in america we play with, but you cant dip peanut butter in it. | ||
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On May 21 2014 12:18 austinmcc wrote: For confused non-brits, hula hoops are these I assume: ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/56/Hula_Hoops_Snack_Original.jpg/220px-Hula_Hoops_Snack_Original.jpg) and not these ![[image loading]](http://img2.timeinc.net/health/images/slides/ybb-hoop-opener-400x400.jpg) Nvm HF this answered it all. | ||
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In our previous game, yell0w contradicted himself, much like he did this game, and I called him out for it. I pushed on him, which is how I got my read on him. Yell0w seems to be joking a bit towards the beginning, such as his preferring a "alive cat to a dead cat" and pretty relaxed. I haven't played a game with him as mafia, but it seems like a town play to me. I do agree that his switching to go with BH on the odin lynch is a bit weird, especially since he disagreed with it earlier, but it may just be him reassessing the game there. He also hasn't posted much for me to get more of a read, but I'm leaning more town here. | ||
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On May 21 2014 12:39 mtamburini wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 21 2014 11:45 Cephiro wrote: First up, the thoughts behind my questioning. While initially reading the thread I noticed 27ninja is a very cooperative person. Which is why I started the whole exchange with her. She takes part in the discussion a lot and actively, aiming to contribute (or look like contributing.) Her intention is to try and play as honestly as possible. Which again, is not a bad thing from a town perspective, but if you roll scum and try to play with the least amount of lies possible, it will be hard. The point of interest here is her admitting her annoyance to being called out on her play. She encourages others to share the reasons on hers, yet withholds her own for "reasons", are excused as: While I definitely agree with the logic behind it, her reasoning doesn't seem sincere. It's as if she wants to put content into the thread, but avoid (for now), making any decisions that may come to haunt her play later. Specifically: She doesn't want to be read as scum. Obviously, no town player does, but her play is (even self-admittingly) aimed at not being read as scum. Even if you are read as scum as a townie, it doesn't mean you can't manage to prove your town-ness. Surely, it's an uphill battle, but for someone putting as much effort as her in the game seems unlikely to be _that_ scared of being a misread as a town. Rather, I feel the fear comes from other players correctly reading her as scum. Analysis break: My questions, the reasons behind it, and my conclusions of her replies. The first exchange. My question here aims at finding the natural level of her thought process. It may not be the best comparison, but think about chess. What I'm aiming to find here is whether she thinks about: 1) The current move 2) The reasons behind the current move 3) The follow-up to the current move Or a multitude of the above. As you can see, she instantly jumps into an assumption that I vote her because I read her as mafia. She doesn't take her thought process further (into different possibilities), into questions such as: "Would he vote for me for a reason other than suspecting me as mafia?" Instead, she takes it for granted that I suspect her to be mafia. It fits well with her wanting to play as honestly as possible, trying not to doubt the claims of others. This I feel is a trait belonging to the person. So here I establish the fact that she doesn't think things ahead. Her thought process is not zero though, but considering the current step with the information given to her comes more naturally. (There are people who naturally start thinking multiple steps ahead.) Here is my followup. My question is intentionally aimed to hint at a possibility of thinking outside the box. As I came into the conclusion that she doesn't naturally by instinct start thinking things too many steps ahead, I wanted to see the reaction that would come after hinted towards doing such. Her response is quite interesting. She does correctly analyze on scenario, that is, if I didn't have a proper read and wanted to gain more information on her. There are many others she does not think about however. What I'm most interested in, is this crucial miss: She does not at all consider a possibility where I am scum. Ding ding, alarm bells anyone? Note how she points out that if I don't really consider her as mafia, I shouldn't be voting for her. Yet at the end of her post, she asks why I'm reading her as mafia. This means that she thinks (knows?) of me being a town player suspecting her, rather than any other possibility. Why could I not be a scum player trying to start a wagon on her? She doesn't even go through this option at all, even after being hinted to think outside the box. It's as if she knows I'm town. That's not possible unless she's scum. On to my third question: This question was mainly to confirm. I was fairly certain that she does not intentionally downplay her ability to mislead her opponent. Combined with the logical deduction of her naturally not thinking ahead, and with her honest tendency to answer questions, I have no reason to believe she'd be lying about this one either. It would be possible to downplay or not reveal your scumread to try and trap a person into a situation which essentially confirms them as scum to other players, or many shenanigans of the kind. Her response however is strictly related to her own confidence about her read. If she's sure about her read, she'll go for it (no downplaying). If she's unsure, she'll work to be able to trust her read enough to convince others. (Upping her own play.) With this I come into the conclusion that she is not downplaying her abilities when responding to others, or in any questions that she replied to me. This is exactly why I consider the 2nd question where she does NOT EVEN CONSIDER ME AS POSSIBLE SCUM extremely alarming. Also take in consideration how interested in she is in the reasons why I suspect her to be mafia. She doesn't just ignore and wait for me to actually provide something, but she actively asks for it again and again. If not combined with the above, I would see this as a townie trait, but I feel she is trying to get to know her mistakes/flaws in early play so she doesn't make the same mistakes later on. TLDR: 1) Is afraid of being seen as scum 2) Extremely co-operative due to not wanting to be looked upon badly, refer to point 1. 3) Ignores the possibility of the player questioning her being scum. 4) When suspected, wants to know the flaws in her play to not repeat the mistake later Like literally, for one moment she doesn't think I could be scum trying to push her for mislynch. 27ninjabunnies is mafia, and needs to be lynched. My vote stays where it is. Opinions? Goddamn bunnies back to scummy now, I need you to pretend your formaled and defend yourself. He brings up all the points I wanted to kill yellow in other game. Do I need to claim Bird Jesus again and say im going to shoot you and see if I get roleblocked? Hey tamburini, before you say I'm scummy once again, read my response to him. | ||
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On May 21 2014 12:42 Holyflare wrote: so if you only got your read on him last game for pushing him on his contradiction why this game did you decide to call him towny for it instead of pushing him to get the previous read? Because I was reading him townie for his initial post (the one I just linked in this read). I felt as if I didn't need to push on him, plus someone else was doing so by calling him scum for that contradiction. When yell0w respnds, I'll have more of a read. | ||
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On May 21 2014 12:40 Cephiro wrote: My replies in bolded. Read, she's still scum. Flat out lying in some of her statements, and some of her points just agree with mine, rather than contradicting them. Ugh, tbh. You annoy me to no end. And my eyes hurt. Let me refute each of your points once again. 1) Yes, it was correct. I agreed that I am cooperative. Would you rather me go. "NO YOU ARE WRONG. LIKE OHEMGEE SO WRONG! LIKE I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE THIS." Uh no, I'm not like that. I'm not going to be BM, I'm not going to cause problem. And, So you are basically saying, you are manipulating me into responding how you want me to respond and then calling me scum for you asking leading questions that work in your favor. Congratulations. I wasn't forced into being cooperative. I can choose to be cooprative or not. I chose to be. It had nothing to do with you. 2) I didn't give specific reasonings on any of them because I didn't have specific reasonings. They were mostly because of a gut read and the theory that I had that mafia would be really active in the first couple of pages to come off as townie. I however, did give reads on two other people, Thrawn and Jampi and gave reads behind them. So, no, I'm not scum because of not giving my reads on them when I didn't have set reads. 3) I am questioning certain things, calling people who I think are scum, scum. But I'm not pushing. That's not how I get my reads. I like to read into interactions, plays, and other people's reads. Like I said, when I am certain on someone I will push that someone. Most of the conversation, however, at the beginning was about the RNG play, and then HF, Steve, and whoever the other person was being BM to each other, something I'm not all that into. 4) I don't think I'm reading your case very well. I'll reread again and comment on it later. 5) I don't see how my posts are anywhere indicitive of YOUR alignment, or what I am reading as your alignment. I wanted to know your thoughts and line of thinking before I jumped to that conclusion. If my posts came off as me thinking you were town, that wasn't my intention. Nor was it my intention for my posts to come off as me thinking you were mafia. I wanted to be objective when reading you, especially since you immediately hop into the forum and single me out. I think you could be town making this play, but you could also be mafia. I don't want to base the read ust off of what you think of me, because that is a biasy. There are 30 other players outside of just us. 6) You're right, pushing a wrong read isn't always necessarily bad. But I've gotten lynched in games because of "bad" reads and wrong reads. Especially in a game this big, I'm more hesitant. And the fact it's a closed setup. Maybe I shouldn't be so cautious, cause sometimes I'm not, but I don't have any solid reads to be able to afford to be wrong. Now for this post: + Show Spoiler + On May 21 2014 12:55 Cephiro wrote: Alright, so again. The questions weren't aimed to directly affirm her as mafia or town, but her thought process. The first question was about if she thinks ahead or not. Whether she does or not doesn't make her mafia or town. The second question was to see her thought process if she thought ahead (because the first question made me assured she doesn't, not too far at least.). Her reply: The main point here is the interaction between the first and last statement. It can easily be seen that she thinks that I consider her mafia, which is correct. Now, you're in a situation where a player is voting on you, asking you questions, since they think you are mafia. 1) Why would you at this point be fairly certain about that player being town, and not point out the possibility of him being scum? 2) Why is your first thought to find the reasons why you are suspected? If I am scum in that situation, my first thought (if I don't know already) is the reason why I'm being suspected. Even if I salvage the situation, if I'm dumb enough to make the mistake again, I will get #rekt. Which is why Step 1) Identify the reason you are being suspected Step 2) Prove why that reason is invalid Step 3) Ascertain your position by providing pro-town (or pro-town looking) content Step 4) Mislynch townies If I'm town and I'm being called scum, I instantly know it's because: 1) Someone is making conclusions that might be logical, but still untrue 2) Scum is pushing me for mislynch, or just trying to discredit my thread presence. Her thoughts are much more aligned with the way a scum thinks in this situation (in my opinion). The third question is to affirm that she isn't of the downplaying kind = she doesn't intentionally hide information to make herself look a worse player than what she is. Rather the opposite, she talks about how confident she is in her mafia-playing abilities. This makes me not believe her claims of having really thought ahead (which again is irrelevant, her response on the other hand is relevant.). These factors combined with the rest of her play like I pointed out, make me feel strongly certain about her being mafia rather than town. If you feel like I didn't elaborate on a point enough, do say and I'll explain further. Like I said, I don't care why you think I'm scum. I wanted to make sure YOU knew why you thought I was scum. Of course I'm going to refute the reads that you have wrong on me, cause that is what you do as town, you show why you are town. Now if I had asked, "What exactly did I do that made me seem scummy, or what should I have done to not seem scummy?" then I would understand why you are pushing that agenda on me. 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On May 21 2014 13:41 thrawn2112 wrote: someone do some research and tell me if his top town and top scum reads align with points 1 and 2 Why not research yourself instead of having others do it for you, and then sheep off their read? | ||
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On May 21 2014 13:42 Steveling wrote: Black is so good. Isn't that the color mafia usually wears? | ||
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Look at filters then. I still don't like your not contributing much. Others are reading threads, trying to find mafia, and questioning things. You want everyone else to do your dirty work for you. How exactly is that town? | ||
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On May 21 2014 13:55 Steveling wrote: I kinda want to trust her. Mby because she's the only girl in teh game and I'll feel bad if we lynch her, lol. Well, Tamburini is a girl, too. Also, did you know that lynching/killing a girl in online games is considered rape? Cause you are overpowering them. Confirmed don't rape me this game guys. ![[image loading]](http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Men+s+Rights_df9557_4775513.jpg) | ||
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[red]THRAWN IS MAFIA[/red And here is why. Thrawn comes into the game 7 pages later with this. On May 21 2014 06:34 thrawn2112 wrote: hello! On May 21 2014 06:54 thrawn2112 wrote: this going to be difficult Then when I question him on it, says he'll post when he has something to say. Well he has said quite a few things, and I believe none of them to be any where near town. -Says if there are masons, they should "hit him up" -Asks holyflare if he is town, then gives him a 4/10, then pushes no further on this. Gives us no reads on it. Though he did push a little with his questioning after on why holyflare is obvious town, but still, his posting is inadequate. - Wants to push on cav, but goes nowhere with it and states the reason why he is going nowhere on that is because Cav knows what he is doing. Well what exactly is he doing? - Asked about reads on yell0w and geript, initially gives one sentence for each. Though he does expand on his read on yell0w just a bit, but imo, not even close enough. - Asks others to do homework for him, stating he doesn't want to read the thread. HOW IN ANY WAY IS THIS TOWN? He can just sheep off of other people's reads. In other words, everything about thrawn's filter to me is inadequate. ##Vote: Thrawn2112 | ||
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On May 21 2014 14:15 BlueyD wrote: lol, thrawn's early D1 play is not alignment-indicative, I covered this. he had the same kind of awful play early D1 last game I played with him. picked it up later and ended up being town MVP. redirect your attention somewhere else for now, if he fails to show up later in the game then he'll be suspicious. So just because he did the same last game, it can carry over to this game? So we let him slide for being scummy? | ||
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On May 21 2014 14:20 thrawn2112 wrote: whatever i'm just going to afk until there's something worth talking about Again how is this pro town? While I agree that there's some things that aren't worth talking about, much has been discussed that are probably worth talking about! | ||
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On May 21 2014 14:24 thrawn2112 wrote: it's not how I like to play D1. u can call me scum or complaign about it but this is just how it's going to be. like blue said, if I don't step up during the last half of D1 then yeah I deserve whatever I get. but that's not gonna happen so there won't be any problem. I still don't like this. Just because someone says you are gonna step up your game, you are going to have to, regardless of your alignment to not seem scummy. This basically does nothing for me. | ||
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I can respect everyone has different play and way they get their reads, so I guess I'll just have to wait until you step up your game later in order to get a better read on you. And with that, I'm off for the night. I'll check forum a bit before work tomorrow, and be more active after work, so if you don't hear from me for awhile, that's why. See you gentlemen later! | ||
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So I've had suspicion on Thrawn since he posted in the thread. I gave my reasons as to why, because of the lack of posting and stubborness. People claim that's usual town Thrawn, and I've agreed to leave it alone until he starts posting and I can get a better read on him. But saying that me putting suspicion on thrawn just to avoid suspicion on me is ridiculous. I STILL have suspicion on me, and my suspicion on thrawn was stated well before tamburini had even made that read on me. Now I read through the filter of some people I think should be pertinent to right now: layabout, Slam, Cav, and Bkq. I also notice these are people with very little contribution (imo) and filter. First off, Let's start with BKQ So his initial post into the thread I didn't really like. On May 21 2014 06:47 bkqyrldp wrote: Nice. The game has just started and there is already many people I dislike. I guess that's to be expected in a game with 4 factions. Steveling is the first one for asking a neutral filler question, followed then by xatalos and marvelocity grabbing that opportunity to provide an easy fake contribution. From those 2 I dislike marvelocity the most, since xatalos was already there bantering, so I'll read less into his response for now. The other person is meapak_ziph. He came into the thread with a weak confusion comment and something that didn't need to be said. Your post is basically the last line, which is pretty weak if your intent is to gather info from wave. What's up Marv, steve, MZ? Basically, BKQ did the same that MZ did, imo. He comes into the thread with something that didn't need to be said- the four factions thing. However he does a bit more than MZ by expanding on who he dislikes. In his later posts he doesn't really expand any more on these reads, so I would like to hear more of what he things about MZ, Steve, and Marv now. The Marv/BKQ interaction is pretty interesting, especially since Marv is calling BKQ out for saying that his response to Steve was suspicious (I looked through the filter and couldn't exactly pinpoint what they are talking about, so I can discuss this later when I do.) Other than that, BKQ hasn't done much for me that indicates town or mafia, so I'll fence him for now. BKQ, I'd still like you to expand your reads on MZ, Steve, and Marv now that they have each talked a lot more. Now onto Cav Out of all his posts, the one on Steveling is most substantial- not that I agree with any of it. On May 21 2014 15:05 Cavalinho wrote: Steveling Cut out all the spam, and you're left with stuff like this: What the fu-? Who asks questions like this belittling themselves? This question makes 0 sense if you're town. It makes people ignore you and talk down to you...But it makes perfect sense if you're mafia. It makes other people feel smart. Feel superior. His filter actually has more of the same: More meek statements meant to get people to ignore him and make them think he's helpful to the town. Worthless to make as town, especially in a huge game like this. But they make a lot of sense when you're actually mafia and you're trying to get by. Now here are some different posts: Nothing really special about posts like these. These are all about last game, so it seems like he's contributing information without actually doing anything at all. Without wanting to actually quote everything in the universe, the fifth page of his filter is almost nothing but filler. The bad kind of filler that makes people think that they belong when, in reality, they're just posting enough to get by and seem town. Also, I never said Steveling was "ignoring" people, quite the contrary. I believe his intent is to get people to ignore him. And also, Steveling is my second choice of lynch. My third, fourth, and fifth choices are somehow Steveling as well. I do find it weird that Steveling was all "How can I make my posts better?" type of thing. As town, why do you care? You are town. You should be more concerned with finding mafia, and not about self image - + Show Spoiler + Hey, maybe I should follow my own advice here! But I agree, these posts by Steve seem super filler, and not any way contributing to finding mafia. However, I think there are posts that were very good that Steve posted- such as the interaction between him and HF (even if it was a BM match). I can expand on Steveling later when I have time to read his filter. As for Cav, he also hasn't done much for me, but I wouldn't lynch him today. Slam So the main focus from Slam is geript's read on him. Geript really thinks he has a great read on Slam, and that's Slam is scum. However, ignoring Geript's meta read and going off of my own, Slam coming in and asking what page the game started n is neither mafia or town for me or well both). If you are town, you want to know where to start and read. If you are mafia, you also want to know where to start or read, so geript's case based on that seems weak, and I don't use this in anyway of my read on slam. Slam came off a bit trolly to geript's push on him, posting the pictures, etc. He seems calm and not even in the slightest bit worried about Geript's push on him. Slam's posting also contribute of 3 pages of filter of one or two sentences of posting, nt sure if this is alignment indicative, but it's very strange to me. But then again sqrt did the same thing last game, and he was town(then again they are two different people), but the not contributing much to me is weird. Also, sorry slam for my posting. I didn't mean to offend any one. If any one could understand it's me, and maybe I should have thought better before posting that. Everyone has a past, and I super apologize for offending you in any way. In short, Slam's post is mostly filler, not leading conversation anywhere. I'd actually probably follow Geript today and vote on him. Layabout Who is this guy? Tbh, I dont like him, and I don't really have a set reason. Something just doesn't sit right with me on him. His rant on Steveling being destructive with his posting is...eh... not sure why he posted that. Im keeping my eye on him, but I don't have anything more to say. | ||
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Read a bit through the forum while I was working, but going to quickly reread it again, so it'll be about 15-20mins to look through everything. If there is anything you want me to focus on, let me know. Also, BH. Wtf? You claim a BLUE role when only 3 votes on you? How...stupid... is .... that.... | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On May 22 2014 00:16 bkqyrldp wrote: When early on in the first day I always like to look how players enter the thread. I find it that mafia has a hard time writing the first couple posts and they often look artificial and forced. I stand by my marv read so far. I think it's more likely he enterss the thread like that as scum than town, and his unwarrated anger after he got called out doesn't read natural either. The rest of his filter is really uninspiring for someone who has been on the thread for basically the whole game, even if you are just skimming. He is bickering on irrelevant points and not asking the right questions, which further enforces my feeling he might be mafia. The level of confidence he later uses to say that we are scum for questioning him on his entering post is also way off. That said I'm willing to give him a pass for today, because even if he isn't town aligned he is capable of uncovering other mafia and if he is town aligned it's a shame to mislynch him in the first day. Also there is a chance that he atracts a bullet too as any alignment so lynching him today is not the highest ev. I still feel a bit uneasy about MZ, but wouldn't lynch today either. I think his posting improved a bit after the the first couple. And speaking of entering the thread as scum, after I reread the thread jampi caught my attention: This string of quotes don't look natural at all. As I've said when you enter the thread as scum you have to force yourrself into a mindset and it often looks a bit off. In this case the level of aggression and "scumhunting" which are normally characteristics of a townie are way over the top and forced, thus I feel there is a strong chance jampi is scum. So when leaving the thread earlier, I asked BKQ to expand a bit on his read of marv, Steve, and MZ, and his response seemed pretty townie to me. His expansion on his Marv read is something to look at. I'll need to read Marv's filter to see if his read makes sense, but it seems as if it does. He didn't give a read on Steve, and his MZ read was still unsupported imo. The thing about Jampi seems to make a bit of sense as well. The thing that I don't like about BKQ is that all of his reads in this post were based off of how the person entered the thread, and didn't really focus on anything they said after -such as Jampi questioning on me (something people have used in their reads- or MZs interactions with others in the thread. I like yell0ws read here. I like how he is willing to address the ones he has played with before. This gives those who haven't played with any of those more insight. However, these reads are based on last game too. I want yell0w to expand on why Jampi is scum, and why he trs poofter and hapa. As geript, poofter, and I have stated- tamburini is a girl. + Show Spoiler + DAMMIT HOLYFLARE. Don't lie to everyone! On the sqrt thing- sqrt posted very short and straight to the point reads. Usually they had some backing to them. He also cluttered the newbie forum by posting back to back, so him not posting often and atleast trying to direct conversation is leaning more scum towards me. I know he claims it is because of how big this game is, but still. I feel as if he could contribute more. Finally, Odin makes an appearance into the thread. And I want to lynch him. Not because of the RNG thing, but his initial post seems crazy to me. And that OMGUS on BH. I mean, that's fine and whatever, he says his reasons as to why, but Idk, just something doesn't sit right with me abut him. Hapa is town for me. I'll look more through hapa's filter to be sure later- but hapa's reads on tamburini this game are spot on to what I was thinking- and the point he brings up about tamburini wanting to kill yell0w, and wanting to kill me for the same thing- when yell0w flipped town is a compelling argument. I forgot there was an austin in this game. I'll leave you with this until I can read some more. I'm on page like... 68 or something. also, the BH thing. I see your point. It can confuse scum. But it just seemed really odd to me that he did it at THAT point. | ||
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It's amazing! So more reads from page 68 and on. Sqrt calling Xat obvtown is weird to me. Even Xat questions that read (which I found hilarious). Even when sqrt responds to Xat, all he does is quote things Xat said. But what in those posts point to Xat as town? I just don't understand where Sqrt is on this? Steveling permanently green stamped me. Whuuuuutttt. I'm flattered though I'm still not anywhere near impressed with Thrawn. He comes in and asks odin if they have played together, then leaves... What? Where is the amazing late day 1 plays that everyone has been talking about? Geript wanting to lynch BH is pretty brave, even with the claim -well claim from both of them...and slip? eh confused on that-. I want to know why Kush thinks that hapa is pretending to be town. I haven't really focused really on Valenius- I'll read his filter later. but I do like his post here. Seriously, the Slam thing was the best. I'd prob sheep this guy just from this post. But then again, I haven't read the rest of his filter. Also Valenius I did not mean for my post to sound contradictory. More active mafia tend to last lnger than lurker mafia. However, because active mafia post more, you have a better chance of finding slips there (that is why I said I focus on activity as well as the lurkers.) So after all this( I'm currently up to page 75ish), I'd lynch these people today: Tamburini, Thrawn, Jampi, Layabout, Sqrt, Slam, Geript, . Possibly in that order. I think that covers mostly everything, yeah? | ||
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On May 22 2014 08:35 BlueyD wrote: Okay, I'm gonna read the 25 pages of thread I missed and have dinner, in no particular order, for a while. Anything in particular I should pay attention to? Can you give a read on Ritoky, austin, and vale? | ||
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On May 22 2014 07:07 Hapahauli wrote: Gealwkefjalskdjfawef why do people keep calling him "she"? Don't listen to HF. he has no idea what he is tlaking about. | ||
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On May 22 2014 08:39 Steveling wrote: Bunnies can you be my friend? These people are mean to me. I like you Steveling. You seem pretty alright. I'm always up for making new friends | ||
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On May 22 2014 08:44 Valenius wrote: In my 2nd game we had like a 3-4 page day 3. That happens in 20 minutes here -.- It's pretty insane. Like don't get me wrong, I'm all for talking and all, but dammmmnnnnnn.... | ||
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On May 22 2014 08:41 Holyflare wrote: explain your post where you say what bunnies has done all game is towny but then also scummy in regards to cephiro I too would like to see an explanation of this! | ||
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On May 22 2014 09:05 Steveling wrote: Also fu guys, now I'm in srs mode. Y u do dis? I was having fun. You can still have fun!!!! | ||
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On May 22 2014 09:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I don't remember spongebob having that much blatant innuendo... Not entirely sure what you mean by that. | ||
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On May 22 2014 10:18 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Oh, and I want to lynch Ceph too. Why Ceph? Regardless of what you are reading me as, what do you think of Ceph's case on me? | ||
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On May 22 2014 12:36 thrawn2112 wrote: idk. i tried to care earlier but it didn't work. You should care. I'm still waiting. And very sad I'm not getting what I want. | ||
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On May 22 2014 12:40 thrawn2112 wrote: see you can't just tell someone who doesn't care that they should start caring... that's not how it works You should care....for me... cause I want to lynch you for not caring. Give me a reason to care not to lynch you. Can you do that? | ||
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On May 22 2014 13:01 Holyflare wrote: is tambo playing video mafia today bunnies? have you seen him around? He wasn't playing the last game, but I think he might be playing the next game. Also @Thrawn: That is the type of posting I want to see. Even if I expected more, it's atleast a start. I actually like your reads there. you've changed my mind, congrats! ##Unvote | ||
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On May 22 2014 13:09 Holyflare wrote: so he's around but not posting in this game at all............? ##vote tambo *Shrugs* I'm not trying to point fingers at anyone, or get anyone in trouble. I said nothing.... sssshhh | ||
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On May 22 2014 13:15 Cavalinho wrote: I'm not sure I agree with you on the sqrt vote. He scumreads people for the weirdest shit ever, so I don't find it particularly indicative. I'm basically just sheeping Foolishness on the mtam case, but I'm not sure about the other guy. This is my case on sqrt On the sqrt thing- sqrt posted very short and straight to the point reads (As in in the last newbie game). Usually they had some backing to them. He also cluttered the newbie forum by posting back to back, so him not posting often and atleast trying to direct conversation is leaning more scum towards me. I know he claims it is because of how big this game is, but still. I feel as if he could contribute more. What do you think? | ||
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On May 22 2014 13:23 Cavalinho wrote: Eh. Maybe. I don't really feel it. I think his most indicative thing thus far was his vote on HF. It was so reminiscent of his vote on me in NMM that it made me think he was town for it. Despite the fact that it was retarded both times. What do you think about him specifically saying he doesn't want to post a lot, or that he just give reads, with nothing backing them unless someone asks him to expand on them? | ||
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I woke up late! And i only have 1 hour before work, and i won't be around for the deadline- which gives me absolutely no time to make a case on anyone!!! Bleh! So i read what jampi said and I still don't like it, but don't have enough substance to vote him right now. I still think sqrt is playing completely different and would probably lynch him. There's a pretty high bw on tamburini, which I can totally get behind because im always up for a tambo lynch. And his read is wrong on me. I think he came into the forum thinking he could get a ml on me, but he hasn't stuck around to push it. Yall have any questions for me ask now. ##Vote: Tamburini | ||
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There's nothing really of substance to me in your filter. There was a small push on Xat but nothing came out of it, then there was the interaction between me and MZ, which you called me scummy for, which in a way I understand now teading nack through it. But then you afk, come back with a post of reads with no substance behind any of it. Afk again basically, and then come back in the last few hours (miracuously just hours before the deadline) and try to seem like you are participating. So that's my scumread on you. | ||
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On May 22 2014 23:50 Holyflare wrote: There's like 5 games of video mafia a night dude. He's the main lynch choice and he hasn't said a word since pressure started building. We only played like 2 or 3 games last night. We got started late. | ||
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On May 22 2014 23:52 jampidampi wrote: So I'm scum because my sleeping schedule is considered normal and because I didn't have much free time yesterday? Nice to know. So i don't know your home life or your sleeping schedule. What i do know is that there are scum who lurk, your posts to me have no substance, and I don't like you. | ||
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On May 23 2014 00:10 Holyflare wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-27517591 oh snap, hope onegus doing ok :/ Yeah ive been following that! Things getting intense! | ||
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Also, I'm still not all that happy with tamburini. Like where is he now? Why isn't he defending himself more? I don't think his posts recently sufficed at all. Not sure if I should switch my vote to Odin, but it seems like the lynches for today are going to be between Odin/Tambo/Vale. | ||
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On May 23 2014 03:21 OnceKing wrote: also bunnies just brought up a gr8 point where once people started pulling off of tambo he's disappeared l0l He honestly did. Like a "Hey, no one's voting me now, I still have one day" type thing. I think tambo is a procrastinator. | ||
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On May 23 2014 03:28 OnceKing wrote: procrastinating scum or procrastinating town or procrastinating null? Prcrastinating scum. I still don't like tambo in this game. I think he thinks he has one more day, and will be all like "hey, I have anther day to make them think im town. Let me post more now." | ||
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On May 23 2014 03:45 mtamburini wrote: I Vote:: tehpoofter why? No one else has and I can be the first one to say in post game if he is scum to say I TOLD YOU SO MOFOS harharharhar But he's prob town this game. Or atleast he is definitely more town than you. | ||
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On May 23 2014 03:48 Blazinghand wrote: I didn't make the bet cause he wasn't willing to vote odin. Uh huh.... Very well then | ||
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On May 23 2014 03:50 mtamburini wrote: Oh bunnies if I didnt know any better you're just a bit butt hurt cause I tunneled on you early game and just want the satisfaction of saying you got me ML because I get you ML a lot Also just to rustle your jimmies some more click this trolling FTW and then this is what I did at end of that game #wrekt What was that? I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the big sounds and noises that are blaring "TAMBURINI IS MAFIA SCUM" Even if oyu aren't, yes. I will get deep satisfaction that your ass got mislynched. How does it feel tamburini? Huh? The fact everyone believes you are a girl and about to get lynched... To me it feels so sweet. | ||
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On May 23 2014 03:50 Blazinghand wrote: Damn man, if you don't trust me, fine, read odin's (very very short) filter for yourself and think about what I said. You'll come to the same conclusions I do. REad the casae. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=120#2398 It's all true I read your case, I agree it is pretty good.d But I'm not sure if I'm willing to switch my vote over just yet. | ||
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On May 23 2014 04:01 mtamburini wrote: I love your enthusiasm it makes me laugh inside, FMPOV your calling me scum because im getting under your skin and its bothering you so you dont have any other response but to call me mafia. I know you know me better than this so I wouldnt be surprised if you were were not town aligned. It takes WAAAYYY more than this to get under my skin, and you know it. The reason why I'm calling you mafia is because you are playing a terrible game. your intitial post focussed on calling me scum, but even your reasoning werent great. You go afk (which whatever. you had 'reasons') and then come back to try and get pressure off of you, then ago afk again You haven't actively tried to find mafia. And you are just doing this stupid interaction with me. So if you are town here, you are terrible town. If you are mafia. GET REKT | ||
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On May 23 2014 04:19 mtamburini wrote: Looks like you are trying to cover your tracks when I flip town when lynched that I was "terrible town" and needed to be removed from game anyways. Tbh I don't care what everyone views me as because this. I'll state right now that this is personal But I do think you are mafia. I stated why. If i'm wrong, I'm wrong. | ||
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On May 23 2014 05:56 Blazinghand wrote: "I think tamb would have flipped scum" is the only real objection you could make, because that's the only thing that matters, but ALSO take a look at all that voting activity in the last 3-4 hours of the day. Tons of info Yeah I suppose. | ||
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I'm currently watching frozen. Yes, I know. Not even relevant to this game. On another note, the bandwagon onto odin was indeed weird. The vote tehpoofter was weird as well. I'm going to read through the filters of those that voted on odin (mostly the ones who switched) | ||
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On May 23 2014 07:04 geript wrote: It's funny, like I saw what BH was doing. Wait for wagon to fall apart, present case that no one will read, lynch for no reason.if by some miracle that BH is alive tomorrow, we lynch him. Perhaps someone will shoot him tonight, perhaps someone won't but meds shouldn't be given to him. Why are you so against BH this game, Geript? | ||
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On May 23 2014 08:19 Steveling wrote: 4.She/he/it wasn't for a long time though. She/It will work. | ||
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On May 23 2014 08:24 geript wrote: BH. If you want to live through the night then you will provide analysis on the players that blindly sheeped your RNG, the players that soft pushed your RNG and the players which wholly ignored your RNG. That's basically everyone in the game >.> | ||
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On May 23 2014 08:32 Alakaslam wrote: Youngest sister can play this in piano as well as "sealed door". I am so maddened by the repetition of let's it go that she appeases me with "sealed door". lol Can also play super Mario bros levels 1 and 3. And canon in D I am not musically talented however. As far as movies go, I would say Frozen was done well and I wish I hadn't seen it 9 times in a row because of obsessions. Repetition hijole I just had to put it on for the third time in a row because im babysitting my little cousins. Thy are 3 year old boy and girl twins, and a 2 year old boy. They know every freaking word to this movie its insane! | ||
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On May 23 2014 08:50 Alakaslam wrote: So far a bunch of towns. BH Hapahauli Marv (Oh look vet  !)Mattisfoolish Austinmcc And a scum read or two. Mtamburini and Steveling. What's your reasoning on Steveling? | ||
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On May 23 2014 08:52 Alakaslam wrote: Fine... Reasoning is gut feel and I think he made edit shenanigans with a couple quotes because I don't remember coming back immediately, when I voted (think it was tambo?) I stayed a while. What you mean by this? | ||
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On May 23 2014 08:54 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Am I learning the real names of people right now? My name is definitely not Myra. | ||
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On May 23 2014 08:58 Alakaslam wrote: Huh it is one after another then. Why did you bother to throw in a slash? Anyway there was actually a significant amount of time before I returned according to my memory fwiw. What? | ||
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On May 23 2014 09:02 Holyflare wrote: do you think they couldn't be doing that as scum in a 4 faction game? And what you think steveling is doing then? | ||
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On May 23 2014 09:10 Holyflare wrote: i have no qualms with what steveling is doing but he's not a vet and vets would find it easy to seem towny in this game imo Sorrryy... That was actually meant for Slam. | ||
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On May 23 2014 09:57 geript wrote: I'll look at your stuff after work Scumeling. Maybe I won't shoot you for lulz. you shouldn't shoot him. | ||
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On May 24 2014 01:39 Alakaslam wrote: I would actually rather lynch Thrawn than Mtamburini. Yes please. He has done nothing he said he would. Where are those awesome posts I was promised if i got off his case at the beginning of day 1? Oh right. They don't exist. | ||
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On May 24 2014 03:43 Blazinghand wrote: fair enough. Let's talk about mtamb. I don't have a strong read on him, since I haven't paid attention to him all day, but he was being highly annoying around the deadline th eother day. I'd gain great pleasure from lynching him. What do you think? So the thing about tambo is it was weird how he came into the thread with a big post that basically pointed to me as scum (though me and tamb try to get each other lynched regardless of our alignments. It goes back to a video mafia game where he ccd me as medic and got me mislynched). The only thing is, he didn't stay with it. Instead of pushing me yesterday as his main scum, he voted on tehpoofter. Which he never even mentioned as his scum read until the end of day 1. I honestly think the whole him coming back at the end of the day was just to get pressure off of himself as a ploy not to get lynched as scum, then he disappears again. I'd lynch him with no questions asked. | ||
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On May 24 2014 03:47 Holyflare wrote: [/i]Probably why 50% of it was bad then :D Also i want tambo to die even if just for the information. If he is actually town the people that were switching look more town etc. I wouldn't necessarily agree with this. If he is town, people just switched to another town. Not sure if that is alignment indicative, but mafia could have been just pushing on a mislynch for both of them, that's IF tambo is town. | ||
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On May 24 2014 03:54 Holyflare wrote: [/i]Historically scum like to lay low and look like the good guys after a towny lynch by not being on it if shenanigans like bh did happen. If they are both town then scum went out of their way to look bad on a town/town lynch which doesn't really make sense. I mean, i wouldnt say we have all mafia on the odin lynch, but probably one or two. Not all scum like to lay low. | ||
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On May 24 2014 03:57 Alakaslam wrote: We'll when I filtered him, I didn't see anything that made him scummy, per se. But that had no context; seeing as Chezinu speaks of the wisdom of the crowds, and the crowds almost lynched him (including me, for same annoyance you mentioned partly and that huge post) I wouldn't call him out of the question. Still prefer thrawn So why thrawn? What's your reasoning on him? | ||
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Also 3p role. Nice. Wish this had flips though. | ||
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Here's what I found for bkq: Early day 1- BKQ didn't like steveling, Xat, and Marv and MZ( but MZ flipped town, so won't focus on the read on him. So the big thing on Marv was that BKQ apparently pointed out a post Marv made in response to Steveling and called it scummy, in which imo Marv got quite defensive saying a smurf account couldn't possibly point something like that out as scummy. Also, BKQ didn't like Jampi. BKQ says that he looks at the way people enter the thread, so along with his Marv read he said the way Jampi entered the thread was more scummy than townie. He was also iffy on mtamburini, ritoky, and austin (but I think with austin's posting lately, I'd remove him from suspicion here) He thought WOS filter was useless, and we still havent heard much from his replacement imo, so I wouldn't mind a Errandor lynch. He also pressured tamburini, which I thought got some good info. Especially the whole tamburini 'this is hw I usually post and I get mislynched for it" thing. I think that's completely bullshit. BKQ didn't like hapa's case on Vale here Wanted to lynch between Tamburini, WOS, and Odin at end of day. | ||
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On May 24 2014 05:35 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I can't find anything of value imo in bkq's filter... Also in MK's too. I'm bad at using town filters. Or you arre scum and don't want to point out your mafia partners. I found quite a bit in BKQ's filter and MZ has 5 pages of filter. Exactly why can't you find anything of value in all of THAT?! | ||
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He did question me on my reads, and interacted with Jampi a bit. MZ Also didn't like Vale very much. and agreed with Hapa's read on Vale. Thought slam's filter was weak. Didn't really like layabout. Didn't like me either but everyone deserves to be wrong atleast once Also thinks there is mafia between Hapa/Steve/HF. Thought BlueyDs not pushing on his scum was weird and wanted to lynch him. So Tldr: BlueyD, Yell0w, tamburini, BH, Hapa/Steve/HF, LAy, and possibly Slam. He was more of pushing on BH, saying if he made it through the night to lynch him next day, thought mods could take care of tamburini and odin, and thought BlueyD was a trusting individual or scum (along with yell0w wwhom Slam said) | ||
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On May 24 2014 06:01 Cavalinho wrote: Didn't WoS get replaced? By Errandor | ||
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So definitely look at tamburini, jampi, BH, Ritoky, and Marv today would be my guesses. Also thrawn if he doesn't up his game. Also, I'm waiting on tehpoofter to post and make me believe he is town. If he doesn't I'd probably lynch him, too. | ||
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I waitress at a mexican restaurant, and I was talking to these two guys at my table, and I asked them if they needed anything else, and the older guy- who had to be in his fifties- was all like "You can give me your number/ I'm rich, let my be your sugar daddy." And I was like...ummmmmm..... So yeah... I'll be reading and catching up while Im playing video mafia (which should be interesting). If there is anything you need me to look at, let me know! | ||
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On May 24 2014 13:17 Holyflare wrote: Anyway this convo is really disjointed from the pevious convo. I would love to lynch erandorr. Has he spoken since day has started? I would look myself but I'm about 10-15 pages behind on reading. | ||
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Im only on page 162 right now..... ILL CATCH UP I WILL! | ||
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Slow down people!!! Yeesh!! Anyone got a tldr? Or anything specific you want me to look at? | ||
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On May 25 2014 15:46 Alakaslam wrote: 27NB probably town and frustrate for keep up with thread which I make worse sorry Yeah, the entire page of your reads didnt help. Im semi caught up here. And yeah, i know me disappearing does not look good for me, but rl got in the way, and work. I wont be around for the flip again today, so ill see when i get back what all is going on. So the fact that austin volunteered information makes me think he is more town. He has been looking through the thread, and trying to actively find scum. Sure, scum find scum is possible, but if he was a threat to another scum faction, that faction can just kill him in the night, so i'd leave him alone. I still dont like tamburini or thrawn.... Thrawn still hasnt done the posting he said he would post, and then he just lurks again into "the abyss" as he put it? Come in...why is he still alive? Im still behind so i might have miss some things, but i think i saw some cases on another scum read of mine, jampi. Ill have to look through them more closely to be sure, but that will have to be later as i have work in thirty mins. So for right now ##vote: tamburini | ||
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On May 25 2014 23:36 BlueyD wrote: Hmmm, didn't someone claim bunnies had been "touched by magic"? And now she doesn't want to lynch austin after a non-town check on him and a recruiter claim. HMMMMM... If ive been touched by magic, no one informed me of anything, | ||
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On May 25 2014 23:33 kitaman27 wrote: A player who is not town cannot be more town. To anyone arguing that another scum faction will shoot him, there is no chance that will happen. An outed non-town player is going to be allowed to live until town deals with him because that one less lynch that may be used on a mafia player. Also, you leaving a claimed recruiter alive is a no-no. Yeah, i suppose you are right. But we could be using this lynch on scum instead of a 3p role. If he is scum, then im wrong on my read, but he is actively looking for scum, which in a way is helping town. | ||
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So that means 1kp is lost in the night, which means we should only have 2 kills, yes? Unless mercury faction has kp and was just blocked. Trying to make sense of all that. Austin might not have been the best kill there. I still want to look at tamburini and thrawn. | ||
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On May 26 2014 05:22 jampidampi wrote: So my urge to lynch mtam is still strong, but if a vig would like to make my life easier they could just shoot him. Or they could just shoot thrawn, but that wouldn't make me as happy, though still kinda postively minded. *Stares into geript* Why do you have to agree with me when im scum reading you >.> | ||
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On May 26 2014 05:26 Valenius wrote: what kush said, although i dislike him and when he used: scum are scumhunting too. So you believe jampi to be scum then? | ||
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Okay... So should there be much night discussion? Im kinda confused on the recruitment stuff... So austin said only he had kp right, not the person he recruited? | ||
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Idk about kush Also, i can heart because im on my ipad My computer broke, so had to send that in. Any spelling mistakes are not kine, but the ipad's fault.. Also.. 🇩🇪🇨🇳🇺🇸🇫🇷🇪🇸🇮🇹🇷🇺🇬🇧 Geript should 🔫 | ||
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I am 🚑 Or if i was cop. 👮. Ipads are sooo cool | ||
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On May 26 2014 05:51 Xatalos wrote:  Sorry Xat. I havent really been paying attention to you Nothing against you or anything... | ||
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On May 26 2014 06:42 ritoky wrote: So you have caught up, and you still haven't commented on what I said about you? mhmmmmmm Let me rephrase that. By catch up i mean i read up to page 165, skimmed the austin thing, and read from page 211- now. Sooooo, if you said something, i missed it, but ill check your filter now and comment on it. | ||
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On May 26 2014 06:53 Alakaslam wrote: ‼️❌💱💲🔛🔙🔚🔝🔜™®©💱🏧💹🔃🗿🎰🎰🇯🇵🇰🇷🇨🇳🇺🇸🇫🇷🇪🇸🇬🇧🇮🇹🇩🇪🚩📍🎭🎪🚨🚓🚓🚔🚒🚑🚑🚏🔰⚠️🚟🚄🚅🚍🚛🚕🚗🚘🚇🚊🚞🚕✈️🚀⚓️🚣🚂🚁⛵️⛵️🎢⛲️🗻🗾🏦🏬🏭💒🌆🌇🏡🏠🎲🀄️🎾🎾🏉🏉🏆🏇🏁🚴🚵⚽️🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓🎹🎻🎷🎸🎮✂️✂️✂️📉📈📈📈📉📉📉📉📈📉📈📉📬📪📭📫📥📤🚿🚿🚿🚿🛀🚬🚬🚬🚬🔫🔫🔫🔫💣📢📢📢📢📢🔕🔔📣🔑🔐🔌🔆📀💿💽📠🎥📷📹📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾💾🎎💔💪💃👅👃👀💨 $Show me the money Here's your money. 💴💵💷💳💸💶💰💲🏧 | ||
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So, the best I can give you on that, ritoky, is either I was checked in the night by someone, or something else happened within the night to me. i myself am not magical, nor do I know what being touched by magic means. Though I am curious, did you specifically check me? If so, why? | ||
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On May 26 2014 07:15 Alakaslam wrote: Nay nay is where's Waldo game Except Waldo is the money There^^ | ||
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On May 26 2014 07:24 thrawn2112 wrote: can someone give me a tldr of the last 100 pages? No... If i had to read....you have to read. I am highly disappointed in you thrawn. I expected more than this. Im not sure after tonight we can go on living this way. | ||
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On May 26 2014 07:50 thrawn2112 wrote: the ultimate expression of love and generosity goes beyond the barriers that separate us fear not, for I am forever yours, even though you would shun me Fear I not, because Want I do not. I am promised to another less scummy person. Everything must come to an end. | ||
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On May 26 2014 07:53 Cavalinho wrote: This is going places. Ooo, i love going places... Where to next? ✈️🚅🚘🚖🚂💺🚤🚣⛵️🚢🗼 | ||
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On May 26 2014 08:00 kitaman27 wrote: EVERYONE KNOWS MERCURY IS THE GOD OF COMMERCE AND FINANCE. I've caught you twice in one game. Lmao. If I was Mercury, why would I want to SAVE austin instead of kill him there? Especially since apparently Mercury/Mars factions are enemies? | ||
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On May 26 2014 08:34 Erandorr wrote: Man I wish a girl playing mafia would notice me too. I havent given up yet! Also this has degenerated from IRC Mafia into something else. SC2 Mafia? Sorry! You gotta do something really special to get my attention. You are newish. Ill read your filter later | ||
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On May 26 2014 05:08 Erandorr wrote: Well Towns wincon, which you may not be privy to, refers to eliminating all threats to town. If his wincon truly was to only eliminate another faction, it gets a bit weird,since theoreticly he could still be alive and both him and town win. I still agree with the lynch just based on the fact that we do not know if he was everything he claimed, since he had no options left. And taking away Townies and change their wincondition from getting rid of all threats to town to just one threat (assuming everyone else is hostile, which is reasonable)would eventually have hurt us. Everyone who was simply screaming THIRD PARTY KILL DUUUH should use their brains a bit more. So i read your filter. Yeah, i read it that fast. This is the only post i semi like. And that's semi. Not even hard. This makes me sad. The rest of your stuff is basically one sentence of bullcrap. Like bluey made a huge ass post, and all you commented was "oh come on." Oh, come on. What did you like, what did you not like (cause the latter, due to your response, seems as if it is how you feel about that post) Yeah, so i dont like you. | ||
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On May 26 2014 08:49 Erandorr wrote: You cannot even begin to imagine how much I care about your opinion. Also look through the posts below that I explained exactly what I did not like. Holy shit. Huge rant incoming one second. Eh. I don't think those posts meant much. So he went from, rl reasons, to noob reasons. Okay. I get that. Whatever. But what about his actual reads? You never once commented on those. Imo, those are most important in finding scum. Connections, reads, etc. You don't care for my opinions? Really? I'm a player in this game. Every player's opinion matters. Are you kidding me?! So yes, please rant. Jump on that soap box of yours. This shall be interesting. | ||
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On May 26 2014 08:56 Erandorr wrote: All right fuck this. I am playing like shit because I can't be bothered to read through all of this crap. A fun fact is that THIS IS HELPING SCUM WIN. If people are not using any filters at all while posting and all stay at the same shit tier level it gets insanely frustrating to differentiate between godawful shit posting and actual scummy people. It is still possible, but really not much fun at all. Can people just think for a minute about what they are writing? I saw an entire page posted by someone here. No one else, just him posting 2 liners. Not only is that fucking annoying to look at, it also makes everything so much harder to follow. You wanna check someones filter and its literally 22 pages of posts at night 2. And mabye half those posts contain anything even remotely interesting. I do not exclude myself from this , I have tried to make some points but to be honest I have not even bothered to read most of this mess. People like Foolishness sort of did not even try to keep up, and you cannot even fault him for that because its a legitimate excuse in this game. If that is the general behaviour, you encourage the bad guys to hide in that exact same shitty pattern. I have seen like 5 people post "well he looks scummy but what can you do everyone does" I feel like I am the guy who started to get drunk too late and his usually much more responsible friends are all so fucked up that you have to start behaving like a grown up. It's not just you who has to go through everything. There are people who have been sifting through filters. Trying to find scum. But i dont see much complaining from them. I get it. It's a huge game. But what do you expect from 30 something people. I gave my opinion, just like you have given yours. I really hope you become more active though. | ||
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On May 26 2014 09:05 Erandorr wrote: Lets just do this now. This is a post of average contribution DONT YOU GIVE UP ON ME ERAN! Dont freaking do it! | ||
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On May 26 2014 09:06 Steveling wrote: Wait, does the youtube vid jump to 0:43s for you guys? Cause for me it ain't. Nope | ||
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On May 26 2014 09:20 sqrtofneg1 wrote: tbh, I'm getting suspicious of bunnies. Are you now? Please, what have I done to earn your suspicion? | ||
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On May 26 2014 09:22 sqrtofneg1 wrote: It's the act of not doing much. Your d2 play was quite a bit more toned down than your d1. Also you're joking much more. Maybe it's because it's a big game or something, but that last game, you pretty much never joked around. Yeah, my boss had me working a lot during the day, more than i usually do. Hence why I'm talking a lot more now. I'm off for the next two days. And i agree, a lot more joking this game. So the thing was last game was a lot more serious. You can basically read the air of each game. So the newbie game, my first game, was a bit more serious because of the fact there were a bunch of newbs playing, it was my first forum game, and we each basically had something to prove. This game here is a bit more joking and trolly than the newbie game. Also, im not as nervous or feeling like I have something to prove. Im playing the game, while having fun. | ||
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On May 26 2014 09:27 Erandorr wrote: All right lets try this again. The main point was not that it is impossible, or that people are not trying. Tell me if you agree with the following statements. 1) If people in general are playing badly, which I think is fair to say, it is extremely easy to divert attention if you catch any heat as a scum player and intentional bad play (scum) will be punished more rarely. 2) In a huge game it should be even more important to avoid flooding the thread not only so people do not lose motivation but so that excuses are taken away from people to not reply to questions they have been asked, for example. 3) Multiple factions benefit even more from chaos than regular scum. Their goal is obviously partly to eliminate the other factions. I would say ideally you would find a playstyle that not only avoids you getting lynched, but also makes you dodge hits from other factions. What better environment than this ? 4) Please dont say that in a mafia game. Your points have validity. Thanks for clarifying. Why can't I say that? Is there something wrong with opinions in the game of mafia? Most games are based on opinions of plays and reads. Im not sure what you are trying to get at here | ||
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On May 26 2014 09:31 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Allow me to ask you a question or 2. What do you think of errandor? Who is tryharding the most right now? Who are you asking this to? | ||
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On May 26 2014 09:35 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Originally meant for you, but if anyone else wants to answer, feel free. Ehhh, i don't like errandor's big soapbox thing. Most people prob call him town for it. I think its a load of bullcrap. I went through a lot of filters myself, sifting through replies, read 200+ pages. I feel he is just complaining to complain. I want to see more from him in the upcoming days. If he doesnt feel like reading through 200 pages, fine. Start from here, make reads. But dont come into the thread, say you are going to give reads and read through everything, and then dont contribute much but a couple of paragraphs complaining... As for tryharding.... Explain what you mean by that? | ||
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On May 26 2014 09:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Who's doing the most work? Who's the most towny? Hmmm. I like HF this game. As for most work, not sure. Austin was doing a lot of work, but we lynched him. Im going to read vale's thing on onceking. I think a lot of trolling is going on, and not any solid cases being pushed. But my town is pretty decent atm. Hf, bh, slam, and steve. I think these have been contributing the most, even if bh was just pushing his rng thing, atleast he was doing something. If geript is actual vigi, he will be placed in my list. I also liked tehpoofter d1, but he hasnt done much since then. I dont like eran, you, thrawn, tamburini or ceph this game. Those are the ones im going to look into. | ||
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On May 26 2014 09:43 sqrtofneg1 wrote: @valenius, your case seems valid. I'm not fully convinced tho. What are you not convinced on? | ||
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On May 26 2014 09:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote: @bunnies, do you think geript is vig? Think, no. Will we find out after tonight? Hopefully. | ||
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On May 26 2014 09:47 Steveling wrote: 2nd time in a couple hours someone says I'm town along with bh. The next time someone feels the need to do that pls don't. Just file me under "scum", tyvm. Ive had you in my town since d1 so its nothing new. | ||
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On May 26 2014 09:47 Valenius wrote: Like, does nobody else find this scummy as fuck? The 'all' button disappears after 50 pages.. we're now at 225 pages. Eh, tambo has been scummy all game. The fact that he isnt following along is either a fake dumbtell as mafia or an actual dumbtell... Tambo would do both. | ||
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Either 1. Softing something on vale but knows it wont go through if he pushes it 2. Vale/ OK Scum partners trying to get suspicion OFF of Each other if either were to get lynched. 3. Actual scum who's just sheeping other votes to make it seem like he is active and seems like vale could be an easy push eventually, but not yet... So thats what im reading. | ||
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On May 26 2014 09:50 Steveling wrote: Yeah but I prefer being scum than being town with bh. You cant always get what you want. | ||
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On May 26 2014 09:55 ritoky wrote: Yeah I am pretty much sold on you as scum now. I don't think you were targeted last night, and nothing you're doing or saying is exuding town at all, so that doesn't make you a power role; 1 option left.. This town circle is absolute crap. HF is a PROVEN investigative role, austin basically 100% confirmed it, and 2 of the other 3 have claimed blue roles for 3 phases and been uncontested in their claims. You're not actually pushing forward any new cases or doing anything for town's benefit. You're just sheeping tons of information and acting like you're doing stuff by giving a plethora of not very useful content. You seriously don't have a town read outside of 3 basically proven townies at this point and a spammer? This is not town bunnies, I am sorry. He asked who Im finding MOST townie. Not all who are in my town circle. And if you read my filter, you will see that HF, BH, and Steve have been in my town since day 1 before their claims. So their claims for me are basically moot at this point. I prob wasnt targeted last night and you are thinking you can get an easy lynch on me tbh. I dont really see what you have done this game.... Ill read your filter eventually. If i was targeted, not sure what happened tbh. A town watcher? A mafia stalker? Maybe ill die in the night. Who knows. I could have been poisoned. Im not sure what got your check back on me. Or whatever it was. Which btw: did you read what i wrote? Apparently not. | ||
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On May 26 2014 10:02 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Oh, @Bunnies Are you saying that your role has nothing to do with magic whatsoever? Could I get you to confirm or deny that please? my being town has nothing to do with magic. | ||
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On May 26 2014 10:00 geript wrote: Why is you're read on me dependent on me correctly claiming a kill? So i think you are town. Not the most townie, but town. So your initial push on slam i liked, even though I sorta in a way liked slam, and scum read you for it, but now looking through your filter, the fact you were willing to push on a read like that hard, even if it was a bit tunneling (like Brian tunneling) i like you for it. Something that caught my eye in your filter is you went from this On May 24 2014 05:06 geript wrote: @hapa, didn't you have a townread on yellow before? I know I did. I'll check out his filter i guess. To this On May 24 2014 07:25 geript wrote: I agree Xat, les lynch yellow. With nothing in the middle that made it seem like you changed your read. So explain? | ||
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On May 26 2014 10:05 ritoky wrote: "I don't see what you have done, but I haven't read your filter" That's and OMGUS right there. You're selling me further. Haha not an omgus. Idec tbh. What i meant by that is, nothing you have done has stood out to me from what i have read from you in the thread, and i havent really intended to push a case on you for not standing out. But if you would like me to read your filter and point things out, by all means i can. | ||
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On May 26 2014 10:03 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Does your role have anything to do with magic? I answered above. I have nothing to do with magic. Like at all. | ||
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Not sure how that was defensive? It was pretty straight forward. | ||
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For all i know, ritoky could be telling the truth. But first, ritoky. Tell me exactly whatever you got this magic thing from said. Because the wording makes all the difference. So here's possible situations. 1. Ritoky is scum and is lying and trying to get me lynched for my lack of activity day 2. 2. Ritoky is telling the truth, and somehow i got targeted by someone with a magic role in the night. Like i said, maybe town watcher? Mafia stalker? Something else? Idk. So many possibilities in a closed setup. 3. Im lying to all of you to get ritoky lynched. #3 isnt even possible because im town. Could be either 1 or 2. | ||
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On May 26 2014 10:17 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Bunnies, you've just shot up to the top of my scum list. Yay!!! Im at the top of someone's scum list. Now i get to major defend myself in the upcoming day(s) because people will start reading me wrong and now theres no possible way of me dying in the night. Thanks sqrt. You made my life sooo much easier. | ||
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On May 26 2014 10:21 sqrtofneg1 wrote: 1. Most people had a townread on you. 2. Possible. 3. I think this is it. Hmmm. Most people have had a town read on me. I wonder why this is. Prob because i am town. So by all means, make a case on me sqrt. This game has been boring for me anyway. | ||
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On May 26 2014 10:23 sqrtofneg1 wrote: No problem. Why is there no possible way of you dying this night? Cop, check this girl, or check ritoky plz. Because, if someone or multiple people are reading me as scum, why would mafia kill me in the night? Town can do it for them. Also, cop, dont check me unless you are 100% uncertain if im town, because it would be a waste of a check otherwise. Unless you want to have another town in your list, then go ahead. | ||
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On May 26 2014 10:25 thrawn2112 wrote: I've returned. I've journeyed twice unto the abyss, both ventures being a success. I've glimpsed many endgames, and only a few to my liking. The path to victory lies through [redacted]'s battered corpse! He was not there. I saw a vision. A vision, of mine own endgame. Many were there... were they my foes? My allies? I could not say. All I knew was that I was victorious, and [redacted] was nowhere to be seen. THEREFORE, the heretic [redacted] must be purged from this game! All you who seek to win, direct your malice upon the heretic [redacted]! I post this now as a tribute to those who whose blood floweth green! Ummmm? | ||
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On May 26 2014 10:28 thrawn2112 wrote: if you are confused, clearly the message isn't meant for you Well my blood floweth green so its meant for me.... | ||
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On May 26 2014 10:29 27ninjabunnies wrote: Well my blood floweth green so its meant for me.... I think? | ||
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On May 26 2014 10:32 geript wrote: I'm tempted to shoot bunnies. Maybe Wrandor or Thrawn. I really need to start taking notes. Bunnies response re:ritoky magic thing seems really weird. I'm so exhausted. Well it would be my first time being shot in forum....i dont even think ive been shot in video maf before. Lol I took notes for like the first 5 pages of this game, then was like, fuck this. I got this. Lol What about my response seemed weird? Im not sure where you are getting at here. | ||
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On May 26 2014 10:32 Steveling wrote: Thats so dark.... | ||
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I think your claim of me being touched by magic could be true. Who knows. Maybe ill find out in the upcoming days. It is odd that id be a night target, but odder things have happened. So this here is your most substantial post. On May 25 2014 08:38 ritoky wrote: Alright, as I am watching the sounders game; hopefully I can get through this post on the current state of my reads: Group 1 - People leaving things to be desired: Tehpoofter - Pretty sure this guy was one of the towniest towns to ever town for a solid 6-8 hrs during D1, and since then he has mostly disappeared. I don't know if it's irl related, or too much reading, or intentional; but from what I understand he has certainly played enough mafia in his days for it to not just be him being overwhelmed by the volume of the thread. While he hasn't done enough of this for me to wash away his shiny town smell. He certainly is leaving things to be desired. 27ninjabunnies - This may sound a bit weird, but if I ignore your first 5 pages of your 9 page filter (the majority of which happened within the first 24 hours of the game starting); then I am highly underwhelmed. There's a lot of OGI irl posts, a lot of "hey catching up posts", and a lot of slight subtle commentary posts. It is clearly present that you are here a lot and reading the thread frequently; and yet you haven't pushed a case very strongly on anyone since the minor effort you put on tamburini. This was certainly not the town bunnies I was ride or die with on day 1 of the last newbie game. Your stock is plummeting for me and you are leaving things to be desired. mtabmburini - You sure are making it hard to not push on you due to policy. Your level of disengagement from the game is astounding. My gut tells me it is because you rolled VT for the 2nd game in a row and are bored, but your play leaves things to be desired. Group 2 - Where are you scooby doo? mysterymeat1/errandor - you're in this game? coulda fooled me. Group 3 - Dem townies Layabout - I voted for you yesterday for lack of contribution, and boy did that make you mad. I stand behind what I said at the time, but since then you have picked it up. All of it has been angry and tunneled on me, which you are wrong about and is a bit of an OMGUS, but I like your response. You've got pluck kiddo, you be one of dem townies. BlueyD - If you can't read that last long post and smell the innocence seeping off of it. I think we speak different languages. I speak 5 languages....so hopefully you don't speak enlgish, japanese, korean, spanish, or portuguese....he one of dem townies. BH/Alakaslam (i think it was him?) - They claimed fairly prominent names from the Golden Sun series openly in the thread, have not been counterclaimed, and were not shot in the night as a result of claiming someone elses role. So until I have reason to disbelieve these claims or mathematical reason to be forced to lynch one in the event that they are lying. They go in the pile with dem townies. Austinmcc/geript - Ya know, these two are probably my reads that have the least raisin. I mostly just enjoy and like most of what they type. They smell like the rest of dem townies. Yell0w - He had a level of lack of self awareness that forced me to read him as town after a little bit during the last newbie game. His lack of awareness about the RNG thing and some of his other posts read much the same to me. So I would consider him one of dem townies for now Group 4 - Pretty much scum Hapahauli - Now I think this one will come as a bit of a shocker to a few, but quite frankly he has had warning signs on him for me for a while. So let us examine, in particular his scum reads currently: If you ignore kush, who I believe is a bit of a different case, especially now. The rest of his scum and leaning scum reads are on people with 2 page to 4 page filters at best and tend to be newer players. And most of his town reads throughout the game are on people who have very large filters and have played a lot of games. To me he reads like scum trying to push MLs on people who will offer not as much resistance or who he feels he can get a policy lynch on. Outside of that, he has very inconsistent criticism. As I pointed out earlier, he criticized geript for having confirmation bias on Steveling, yet he didn't criticize BH for having confirmation bias on Odin; and his reason? Because he says BH's case was good. So confirmation bias doesn't apply when you think the person has a good case? Then later he is critical of people who did sudden vote swaps late in the phase, especially those without reason. Yet his hypocrisy is on full display as he is one of the people who did this. Hell, his filter even has a nice "I told you so" post after he switched off of Val onto Odin, even after Val posted something that was pretty much garbage late in the phase that wouldn't have made me switch votes. Lastly, this is just a gut read, but I get the read that a lot of his posts are sending out feelers. He doesn't ever go all-in or really push. He sends out feelers to see if there's support. Then later he pushes if there is or drops it if there is not. For example I am a neutral read in his reads above, but as soon as layabout starts getting angry at me, Hapa is behind him giving him a little boost. He is pretty much scum in my mind. jampidampi - I have found him strange for a while. He was very supportive of 27ninjabunnies after what I thought was a poor defense at the time. He even was supportive of her strange comment of having absolute non-lynches day 1. He also found my former #1 town MZ scummy for finding bunnies odd for that comment. Austin's case on him just further drives me down the path that I think he is pretty much scum. Group 5 - I can't read this guy Sqrtofneg1 - Yo, I got this guy completely wrong last game, and he is acting completely different this game. And I am not confident in my read again. I just think I can't read this guy Group 6 - No strong opinions Everyone Else I liked it. Your later game. I would like to know your reads since this though. Something that caught my eyes was this. You went from this: your first official post On May 21 2014 13:38 ritoky wrote: holy crap that was a long read. i felt like i was never going to catch up to it. i feel like there is a lot of jokes and interactions between people who have played together a lot that went wayyyyy over my head in the first few pages. right now I am having a little bit of trouble organizing my thoughts because there is just a lot of stuff. the two largest things that i noticed are: 1) 27ninjabunnies talks a whole lot about herself. I am kinda gonna sheep tamburini's reads on bunnies. I read a post and I am neutral, then I read the next one and I find it defensive and with 1 million I's in it, which puts me off. Then I read the next one and I am back to neutral. Idk, it just leaves me a bit skeptical because last game I played with her she was oozing town out of her pores it was so obvious, and the fact that I don't have that feeling right now gives me pause and concern. That said, she is contributing and typing seriously which is significantly more than most people (including myself) have done thus far. 2) I find the people who were highly opposed to the RNG lynch on day 1 questionable. Especially those who said things along the lines of "I think I am better than RNG". I think if you say that on day 2 you can sell me quite a bit on it, as I would not be in favor of an RNG lynch on any day after day 1. Usually there is enough information to make singinifcantly informed guesses by that point in the game. But when you say something along the lines of being "better than RNG" on day 1, it makes me think that you have more information than I do. Which very likely means that you are scum. I have to do a couple things unexpectedly now and should be back in an hour or so to contribute more, but for now my I will at least leave my top town and scum read. Top town: Meapak Top scum: waveofshadow Things that are weird for me. You sheep tamburini on his read on me, which was scum, but then name your top scum as WOS, but you have no indication at all in this entire post of why he is scum. In fact, the only time you mention him at all is at the very bottom where you say he is top scum. Now to this next post: On May 22 2014 07:54 ritoky wrote: Well I think that in order to really read Yell0w, you have to read BH as well because their early posts are highly related. So I will start with BH, then move on to a couple people I played with before. BH - Town - In the previous game I played, bunnies filled much the same role as BH is filling this game. Now I know he apparently has a thing for RNG lynches, and he thinks it's an even better scenario this game because the percentages are increased due to multiple factions; and you may or may not agree with that. What I liked about his post, was similar to bunnies prodding of yell0w last game. That it was the first real substantial and aggressive stance in the game and he forced people to both respond to and pick sides regarding it. It shows the me that he was aggressively trying to instigate conversation and gauge people's reactions. Yell0w - Town - I think a lot of the hatred toward Yell0w is blowback for being closely associated with BH, and for his...idk...lack of self awareness sometimes? For example he said recently that he still doesn't understand why everyone hates on the RNG lynch so much and how no one told him why his different method of RNG lynch was wrong. To me that reads not as him fishing for how he can curry favor, but how he (like me to some degree) is feeling a high level of confusion. Personally I think that people pushing heavily on him are just going after low hanging fruit and want an easy ML; so that later in the game they can pass it off as an excuse and say "lulz, well he wasn't contributing much and was about that RNG lynch". That said, I think that if either Yell0w or BH flips mafia, then the other is probably the same. Either Yell0w has been pocketed by BH or they are connected in my mind. Sqrt - If I was forced to guess I would say he's leaning scummier? - Sqrt has been ML'd the past two games very early on as town both times for his style of play as town. This style of play is distinctly different than his last game. Whether that's trying to change what wasn't working, him being mafia, or the change in scope of the game; I am not really sure yet as I don't think he has provided anything SUPER alignment indicative yet. Bunnies - No real comment that is different than before. I don't like her as much as I did last game, but I also don't like lynching people with 6 page+ filters on day 1. mtamburini - leaning scum - As town last game he entered the thread disinterested and fakeclaiming vigi right away. He entered this thread obviously much different, which is understandable since you probably can't do that every game. However his long post near the beginning of the thread didn't really do much for me. It was a lot of space for basically not much content. And after that much of what he typed seemed very forced to me. When you're forcing things out rather than simply saying you have no idea when that is the truth, it reads scummy to me. See what I bolded? You went from sheeping tamburini's initial read in his post to scumreading him for that same post. Contradiction much? | ||
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On May 26 2014 10:57 layabout wrote: Frankly a hell of a lot less posts and a hell of a lot more content. Our day 1 this game was significantly bigger than the 80 player game day 1 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/285690-tl-mafia-xlvii?page=92#1823. I know things have changed a bit since i stopped playing but this is retarded. tbh i am suprised slam didn't get warned for his "oh god i got shot" raping of the thread. I remember when i was just browsing tl and i stumbled across this game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/282366-steamship-liquidia-tl-mafia-46 . Something about it grabbed me said shit for reasons and were held accountable. They made cases some of which were silly or convoluted but there were clear tings to focus on and deal with. Now it's super contrived mechanics and irc posting. Is this really what tl is now? /end rant Great! You complained. Way to prove me wrong. Not sure why you had to post this when we are way past that. Seriously. Can we just play the game people? | ||
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On May 26 2014 11:05 geript wrote: I don't get why you think me making a shot makes me town. Like there are millions of reasons to read me town this game. None of them have anything to do with me claiming Vig. Not a single one. As a matter of fact, that shit is far more likely to come from mafia in this type of game where there are so many non-town parties. Like after lynching one who was likely being more honest than not. It's weird that the reason you would find me to be town is only aligned with the claim which is quite capably from mafia. Like it's exceptionally odd that with as experienced as you are in video, and watching, where Rick among others have fake claimed Vig as mafia. It's odd that that's the reason you find me to be town. Then how flippantly you dismiss Ritoky's claim with neither explaining, nor really responding. It's just almost sheer avoidance. And how you go about things you don't really aim towards standing out or pushing your reads hard. It's as if you're just looking to slide by. That's what I find is odd. That you keep on looking to be active without looking to add or find anything the whole time. I gave reasonings on why i think you are town, minus the vigi shot. Like, did you not even read it at all? And like this is really starting to piss me off. READ WHAT I WRITE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF PICKING OUT CERTAIN THINGS AND TWISTING THEM TO FIT YOUR CASE! yeesh. I tried to push a case on thrawn. But everyone didnt want to go with it. Ive posted many reads, went through many filters and posted what i thought, and you know what. EVERYONE IGNORED THEM. Its like im not even fucking here. Read my filter, see who i called out as scum, see who i called out as town. READ PEOPLE. AND I RESPONDING TO RITOKY. DAMMIT | ||
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On May 26 2014 11:09 geript wrote: @Kita. Could you look at Bunnies for me and see if I'm just crazy right now or onto something. Do you make nothing of how she's half pushing ritoky as scummy and half ignoring his stuff. Like she's not trying to actually figure out his alignment just throw suspicion. And in response to this, i gave cases on the possibilities of what ritoky could be. 1. He is town and i was actually targeted in the night by a magic role 2 he is mafia trying to push a lynch on me. But he claimed a role. What am i supposed to believe? Id like to believe its the first, and ritoky is not scum. Though i dont like some things in his filter, ehich i pointed out if you would read. And if he is scum, well, we found one boys. But i dont know his alignment. I only know mine, so what do you expect me to do? I dont have freaking perfect information | ||
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On May 26 2014 11:29 kushm4sta wrote: so did we get another red check? Basically, ritoky claimed that he got a check back on me that says ive been "touched by magic" But no one knows what that means. They are trying to say im a magic scum role. Im saying i have been visited by someone who is magic. Like, touched by magic. Im not freaking engulfed in it. someone just wanted to get kinky with me in the night. | ||
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On May 26 2014 11:35 27ninjabunnies wrote: Basically, ritoky claimed that he got a check back on me that says ive been "touched by magic" But no one knows what that means. They are trying to say im a magic scum role. Im saying i have been visited by someone who is magic. Like, touched by magic. Im not freaking engulfed in it. someone just wanted to get kinky with me in the night. Well either that, or ritoky is doing this whole fake claim thing, but i dont see why he would. | ||
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On May 26 2014 12:03 kushm4sta wrote: LYNCH THE BITCH ##vote 27ninjabunnies Glad me being productive in the forum not only makes me scum, but a bitch as well. Thanks! JUST BECAUSE IM A FEMALE DOES NOT MEAN IM A BITCH! Get it through your thick skull. | ||
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On May 26 2014 12:12 geript wrote: A little odd that you don't really take any stance on Banks who you read reasonably well in Video. Like you find things interesting but you don't make any point here on him other that, "oh this is neat" Okay, this is from early early in day 1. And yeah. I can read banks super well in video mafia. You know why? Because i intently watch him in video mafia. I can see his plays, see how he voices things, notice when he lurks, and can easily point out if he is a role or mafia... I have only seen one game of banks in forum, and even then i didnt read the entire forum of his game, but it was doctor who, and i believe he was town that game if im not mistaken. So forum banks is a bit different than video banks. Its a lot easier to read a person when you watch them play for hours at a time than to play with them in a forum. And plus, ive given a read on banks since then. Again, are you even reading what i write geript? | ||
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On May 26 2014 12:08 Cavalinho wrote: lol. This lynch is dumb. I'm not gonna lynch bunnies. Im glad im not the only one who thinks this is dumb. | ||
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On May 26 2014 12:28 geript wrote: I find it odd that she defends her Yellow push here in part with. "He made contradictions' when she had just defended him saying she doesn't find contradictions that scummy for him. (He's done it as town. Geript, the pushing on yellow im referring to in this post was me pushing on him in the newbie game. That had nothing to do with this game. | ||
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On May 26 2014 12:35 Holyflare wrote: Sooo nobody gonna comment about what i said on thrawn? Eh i havent like thrawn this entire game. I made my case on him, and prob my lynch is gonna be on him tomorrow too. His last post is weird as all get out. So i wouldnt mine a lynch on him if he doesnt get shot in the night | ||
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On May 26 2014 12:41 kushm4sta wrote: sorry ninja didn't realize you were a girl. if i did i prob would not have called you bitch. Lol. It's cool Not the first time I've been called a bitch. Definitely the first time in mafia though. Haha But yeah, thought most people knew i was a girl. Lol I might have gotten a bit defensive there... I may have went a little mad. Im calm now. Its cool. | ||
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Once in a lifetime opportunity here! | ||
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I'm just patiently waiting for night kills. Lets get this show on the road. | ||
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On May 27 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote: I have rng'd, interesting result! Im super curious! | ||
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BHs rng wasn't super effective. | ||
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That strike out. | ||
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@sqrt- what the hell are you doing voting me? Also, geript, where is your shot?! | ||
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Screw you sqrt. I was town. | ||
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On May 27 2014 05:23 sqrtofneg1 wrote: No hard feelings bunnies, but did you have magic? No. No magic whatsoever | ||
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I dont necessarily understand the spreadsheet, so not sure who all was scum... And what was with the whole "touched by magic" stuff? | ||
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On May 27 2014 05:28 BlueyD wrote: For what it's worth, thrawn really was scum. :-p See my case on him wasnt stupid... Sheep my reads people. Dooo itttt | ||
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On May 27 2014 05:40 Tehpoofter wrote: What would have been funny is if all the factions were left and no town and each team was trying to prove they were town in the thread. You scum you..., | ||
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On May 27 2014 05:48 ritoky wrote: Lol, I made that crap up. I was VT, and I had a growing scum read on bunnies, wanted to reaction test her. I also had a doctor read on someone and wanted to eat a bullet for them. Well you were freaking wrong... Like seriously... | ||
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On May 27 2014 05:55 ritoky wrote: Yeah, i figured as much when you started getting angry, and was gonna rescind. But then other people started having odd reactions to the claim on you, so I was gonna leave it out there until the day phase then rescind. Yeah i was pretty ticked off that i was getting scumread for this post, when people were reading me as town. And then immediately after you die, sqrt votes me... I was prob gonna be one of the main focuses, if not geript. | ||
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On May 27 2014 06:08 Xatalos wrote: Huh... Apparently town had no active powers at all. I think it would have been somewhat fair to have some roles (like recruitment protection, Cop, etc.) I like steve's claim of the three protection potions. That would have been awesome to have | ||
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On May 27 2014 06:44 mtamburini wrote: BOYS I CANT BELIEVE I ACTUALLY READ EVERYTHING LAST NIGHT TO JUST HAVE GAME END. Oh well shit happens gg it was interesting and fun while it lasted One of these days, regardless of our alignments, i will get you lynched. | ||
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