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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 21:43 GMT
#341
On May 21 2014 06:42 kushm4sta wrote:
i feel compelled to remind everyone to shut the fuck up because this is a 30 person game.

I feel compelled to point out that this is a filler post telling everyone to shut the fuck up
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 20 2014 21:44 GMT
#342
Why?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 20 2014 21:44 GMT
#343
On May 21 2014 06:37 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:33 Xatalos wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:30 Xatalos wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:23 Xatalos wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:12 Steveling wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to bed a very odd game with so many I don't know.
In other news I'm getting real sick of rolling VT in massive theme-style games (or games in general). Really fucking boring.
Gonna be the same basic formula: either I suck balls and get left alive forever and get demoralized and whatnot, or I get a flash of genius and play well and get killed earlyish. The latter means I gotta try though and even then there are no guarantees. Blehhhhhhhhhhh

K so first order of business:
##vote: holyflare


Sold.

##vote: holyflare

Lol now I'm honestly debating whether or not to seriously push this.
If he's scum nobody's gonna lynch the guy so as much as I'd feel bad not letting him play, mebbe somebody shoot him or something just to remove all doubt?

I understand where the bolded logic comes from, in a normal game he wouldn't be lynched right away because scum wouldn't hop on the wagon. However in this game the same rules don't apply since there are more factions. I think it's very possible to see zero opposition wagons happen on scum.


That actually adds a pretty interesting element to the game. Connection speculation is less useful - or more precisely said more complicated.

I agree that's it's gonna be more complicated which is why I'd rather not use it as a heuristic for a D1 lynch, after we see a few flips we can start speculating again but right now I think it's more distracting than useful and we should focus on simple behavior based scum hunting.


Yeah, it's going to be very difficult to decide today's lynch based on voting patterns etc.

Since when are Day 1 lynches ever decided on voting patterns? What is this nonsense?


For example, in a normal game it would be suspicious if everyone's votes just piled on one wagon. It's unlikely that he would be scum. With multiple factions things like that aren't as clear.



Just cause multiple factions doesn't mean scum still won't hop on a wagon. Anyone pushing this logic is silly. They may be less likely but still likely to do so their win con is still to lynch non-scum so they will gladly lynch any faction... Pushing this further is scummy.


Of course there will be scum on almost any wagon. It's just that connection speculation (bussing, speed of wagons forming, etc.) are a bit less reliable than they usually are. It should be more useful to focus on individual scumminess for now.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 20 2014 21:44 GMT
#344
On May 21 2014 06:44 Steveling wrote:
Why?


because the game gets very big very fast. town stops reading. and separating lazy town from scum becomes very hard.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 20 2014 21:44 GMT
#345
On May 21 2014 06:42 kushm4sta wrote:
i feel compelled to remind everyone to shut the fuck up because this is a 30 person game.

I almost want to agree but the post restriction game was depressing.
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jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
May 20 2014 21:45 GMT
#346
On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

--

It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?


I may have my eye on a few people.

From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to ome out first day and take control of town.

I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia.

Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 20 2014 21:45 GMT
#347
On May 21 2014 06:40 jampidampi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, I know you guys all hate RNG lynch but with 4 factions there's gonna be way more scum than usual, right? This means RNG has a much higher chance than usual of hitting scum. This is possibly the best time EVER for using RNg. Everyone lynch OdinofPergo, because statistically speaking he is scum.

Why does more factions = more scum? Wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio of scum/all players balanced?



I think BH is implying there is more non-town factions thus more chances to hit non-town. BUT not all non-town are necessarily anti-town so I think your random lynch idea is still bad. And if the game was broken by random lynch it wouldn't be much of a game. Math is fun and all but I'm here to read! Pointing this out makes you more towny mr. jamp
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 20 2014 21:45 GMT
#348
On May 21 2014 06:35 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:32 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:26 geript wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to bed a very odd game with so many people I don't know.
In other news I'm getting real sick of rolling VT in massive theme-style games (or games in general). Really fucking boring.
Gonna be the same basic formula: either I suck balls and get left alive forever and get demoralized and whatnot, or I get a flash of genius and play well and get killed earlyish. The latter means I gotta try though and even then there are no guarantees. Blehhhhhhhhhhh

K so first order of business:
##vote: holyflare

Suck it. I rolled vig. Want to make sure I don't shoot you today?


OH DEAR GOD NO!

With as often as you roll scum I may just have to policy shoot you. Or maybe I'll just shoot bunnies once she calls you a role. I haven't really decided quite yet. I'm just fucking stoked.


Just because I read him super well in video mafia, doesn't mean It transfers here.

However, even if I do read him as a role, not like Ima out that shit or anything.

Let's NOT give mafia an advantage here.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 20 2014 21:46 GMT
#349
On May 21 2014 06:44 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:44 Steveling wrote:
Why?


because the game gets very big very fast. town stops reading. and separating lazy town from scum becomes very hard.


The town that does that are not helping anyway.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 20 2014 21:46 GMT
#350
##Vote: Xatalos
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 20 2014 21:47 GMT
#351
##vote marv
why?
shit vote
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
bkqyrldp
Profile Joined January 2014
49 Posts
May 20 2014 21:47 GMT
#352
Nice. The game has just started and there is already many people I dislike. I guess that's to be expected in a game with 4 factions.
Steveling is the first one for asking a neutral filler question, followed then by xatalos and marvelocity grabbing that opportunity to provide an easy fake contribution. From those 2 I dislike marvelocity the most, since xatalos was already there bantering, so I'll read less into his response for now.
The other person is meapak_ziph.
On May 21 2014 06:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
wait there are four factions in this game?

Guess I might as well read the op then.

Wave that was a mighty suspicious post, sounds like you're trying to make excuses for future bad play...


He came into the thread with a weak confusion comment and something that didn't need to be said. Your post is basically the last line, which is pretty weak if your intent is to gather info from wave.

What's up Marv, steve, MZ?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 20 2014 21:47 GMT
#353
On May 21 2014 06:46 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:44 kushm4sta wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:44 Steveling wrote:
Why?


because the game gets very big very fast. town stops reading. and separating lazy town from scum becomes very hard.


The town that does that are not helping anyway.


This view is a bit cruel.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 20 2014 21:48 GMT
#354
I will now call upon my previous town game where I was the only player to vote for scum the entire game, lmao, and I played like I didn't give a fuck, like I will do in this game.

So, for everyone who has ever played with me, you should know that I'm town as town can possibly town.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 20 2014 21:48 GMT
#355
On May 21 2014 06:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:29 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:19 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Is this normal forum play to just vote whoever you want within the first five minutes of the game?

Cause that seems kind of redundant, and stupid.


Sadly, this is very normal for forum play.


I agree sadly.

On the holyflare thing, if he's scum, why would no one lynch him?

I'd lynch HF in a heartbeat if he aligned with mafia.



lynch Tamburini with me bunnies so we can have a counter wagon going to holyflare.


Oh I'd lynch tamburini in a heartbeat regardless of his alignment.

Tamburini always scum/always bad for town.

But sorry, I'm not voting yet.



Girls can totally vote now. They made it a law back awhile ago. You should exercise your power!


Omg it's a law?! I totally didn't know this.

I like to make educated guesses and decisions before I vote. Cool, calm, calculated.
Do I have to worry about you being mafia here?


You should always be worried about someone's alignment unless you know what it is. I'd be worried if you weren't worried. + Show Spoiler +
However I'm town this game.


On May 21 2014 06:44 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:37 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:33 Xatalos wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:30 Xatalos wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:23 Xatalos wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:12 Steveling wrote:
[quote]

Sold.

##vote: holyflare

Lol now I'm honestly debating whether or not to seriously push this.
If he's scum nobody's gonna lynch the guy so as much as I'd feel bad not letting him play, mebbe somebody shoot him or something just to remove all doubt?

I understand where the bolded logic comes from, in a normal game he wouldn't be lynched right away because scum wouldn't hop on the wagon. However in this game the same rules don't apply since there are more factions. I think it's very possible to see zero opposition wagons happen on scum.


That actually adds a pretty interesting element to the game. Connection speculation is less useful - or more precisely said more complicated.

I agree that's it's gonna be more complicated which is why I'd rather not use it as a heuristic for a D1 lynch, after we see a few flips we can start speculating again but right now I think it's more distracting than useful and we should focus on simple behavior based scum hunting.


Yeah, it's going to be very difficult to decide today's lynch based on voting patterns etc.

Since when are Day 1 lynches ever decided on voting patterns? What is this nonsense?


For example, in a normal game it would be suspicious if everyone's votes just piled on one wagon. It's unlikely that he would be scum. With multiple factions things like that aren't as clear.



Just cause multiple factions doesn't mean scum still won't hop on a wagon. Anyone pushing this logic is silly. They may be less likely but still likely to do so their win con is still to lynch non-scum so they will gladly lynch any faction... Pushing this further is scummy.


Of course there will be scum on almost any wagon. It's just that connection speculation (bussing, speed of wagons forming, etc.) are a bit less reliable than they usually are. It should be more useful to focus on individual scumminess for now.


Of fair enough I understood it to mean a giant wagon doesn't mean instantly town... reading is hard though. I agree connections won't be nearly as easy to make off early wagons. I like this follow up from you.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 20 2014 21:48 GMT
#356
marv, have you decided that you became a scum-Xatalos-detector after last time?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 20 2014 21:48 GMT
#357
bkjjgsdklfsdklfjskldfjklsdfjskldfjs, you don't get to speak to me until you can spell my name. Try again in 24h.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2014 21:49 GMT
#358
On May 21 2014 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: Xatalos

AND SO IT BEGINS.

Did he do the same thing like he did in the game we have banned out of our minds?

##Vote: Xatalos[/QUOTE]
I had a good night of sleep.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 20 2014 21:49 GMT
#359
So about this whole RNG thing, aren't scum players more likely to vote for OdinofPergo if he isn't in their faction since they don't even need a reason to vote him? They can just claim they're doing it for RNG and get a lynch on someone who isn't aligned with them?

Wouldn't a better way be to each claim we are RNG voting, then use the RNG on the post in which we claimed it and then vote for whomever our own post said? So that there is no way to know if you're going to lynch someone of your own faction or not so it's riskier for scum to go by RNG? Maybe I'm completely wrong here.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 20 2014 21:50 GMT
#360
On May 21 2014 06:49 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: Xatalos

AND SO IT BEGINS.

Did he do the same thing like he did in the game we have banned out of our minds?

##Vote: Xatalos
[/QUOTE]
I don't know.

All I know is he's waffling repeatedly and nonsensically about the same stupid thing. That'll do for now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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