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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 19:03 GMT
#1421
#Foolishness:read sqrtofneg1
Please compare this game to his newbies. There's a distinct lack of meandering this game that really bugs me and I'd like a second opinion.
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:04 GMT
#1422
On May 22 2014 04:01 kushm4sta wrote:
no but you said townreads like that always coem from town in your experience.

then you agree with getript about them usually being town.

Geript said that people like me who give those kinds of townreads are usually mafia.
That's what I contradicted.

Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:05 GMT
#1423
On May 22 2014 04:02 Holyflare wrote:
we don't lynch bh and we don't lynch geript

This.
Imaginary
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 19:06 GMT
#1424
Sqrt... Why is it that how you're posting you're reads is ever so drastically different from your newbie games?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 19:07 GMT
#1425
On May 22 2014 04:04 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:01 kushm4sta wrote:
no but you said townreads like that always coem from town in your experience.

then you agree with getript about them usually being town.

Geript said that people like me who give those kinds of townreads are usually mafia.
That's what I contradicted.


What Kush is saying:

First you said: Everyone who said this is town
Geript replies: No, usually they are scum
Then you reply: Yes, usually but not this time.

Which is a contradiction.
I had a good night of sleep.
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:07 GMT
#1426
On May 22 2014 04:06 geript wrote:
Sqrt... Why is it that how you're posting you're reads is ever so drastically different from your newbie games?

Cause huge game.
Imaginary
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 19:09 GMT
#1427
On May 22 2014 04:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:04 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:01 kushm4sta wrote:
no but you said townreads like that always coem from town in your experience.

then you agree with getript about them usually being town.

Geript said that people like me who give those kinds of townreads are usually mafia.
That's what I contradicted.


What Kush is saying:

First you said: Everyone who said this is town
Geript replies: No, usually they are scum
Then you reply: Yes, usually but not this time.

Which is a contradiction.

no?

sqrt says what hapa was doing (telling people off) usually always comes from town so he's town reading hapa
geript says giving town reads on people for what hapa is doing usually comes from scum
sqrt says usually but not this time implying that geript was wrong and he's town

no contradiction
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:09 GMT
#1428
On May 22 2014 04:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:04 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:01 kushm4sta wrote:
no but you said townreads like that always coem from town in your experience.

then you agree with getript about them usually being town.

Geript said that people like me who give those kinds of townreads are usually mafia.
That's what I contradicted.


What Kush is saying:

First you said: Everyone who said this is town
Geript replies: No, usually they are scum
Then you reply: Yes, usually but not this time.

Which is a contradiction.

Correction:
First I said: Everyone who said this is town (referring to hapa)
Geript replies: No, usually people who say that everyone who said this is town are scum. (referring to me, aka I'm scum)
Then I reply: Yes, usually but not this time. (aka I'm not scum)
Imaginary
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 19:10 GMT
#1429
No. I think you miss my point. Early on you posted reads without any sort of reasons, twice in fact. In all you're newbie games you've given some brief and some long explanations. What changed?
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 21 2014 19:11 GMT
#1430
On May 22 2014 04:10 geript wrote:
No. I think you miss my point. Early on you posted reads without any sort of reasons, twice in fact. In all you're newbie games you've given some brief and some long explanations. What changed?

Cause toooo many ppl to explain reads.
If anyone asks, I shall explain.
Imaginary
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 19:12 GMT
#1431
On May 22 2014 04:09 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:07 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:04 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:01 kushm4sta wrote:
no but you said townreads like that always coem from town in your experience.

then you agree with getript about them usually being town.

Geript said that people like me who give those kinds of townreads are usually mafia.
That's what I contradicted.


What Kush is saying:

First you said: Everyone who said this is town
Geript replies: No, usually they are scum
Then you reply: Yes, usually but not this time.

Which is a contradiction.

Correction:
First I said: Everyone who said this is town (referring to hapa)
Geript replies: No, usually people who say that everyone who said this is town are scum. (referring to me, aka I'm scum)
Then I reply: Yes, usually but not this time. (aka I'm not scum)

ok cool.

HF is confirmed silly.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 19:12 GMT
#1432
why is that? for having basic reading comprehension? :o
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 19:14 GMT
#1433
On May 21 2014 09:08 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
My reads so far:

Jampidampi - Mafia.
Bunnies - Town.
Yellow - Town.
Koshi - Town.
BH - Town, but I don't like his RNG thingy.
Holyflare - Mafia.


I will explain if asked to explain, there's so many people, I'm too lazy to write everything up.

I want you to explain your reads as of here. You can exclude yellow because you posted on him later.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 19:14 GMT
#1434
On May 22 2014 04:12 Holyflare wrote:
why is that? for having basic reading comprehension? :o

ah you probably meant the second hapa to be a sqrt
I had a good night of sleep.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 21 2014 19:15 GMT
#1435
OnceKing replaces Onegu! Effective immediately!
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 19:15 GMT
#1436
On May 22 2014 04:14 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:12 Holyflare wrote:
why is that? for having basic reading comprehension? :o

ah you probably meant the second hapa to be a sqrt


no i don't
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 21 2014 19:15 GMT
#1437
Onegu, that's terrible; Really hope it get's better quickly.





I'm not sure how many posts, and this applies for all of you 'vets', are serious and how many are little in jokes between yourselves.. so if I miss out something it's probably because i didnt want to make a read based on something that could be common in your games. Make sense? As always with me, i just read through filters. Backtracking thread is too hard.

So.. + Show Spoiler +


Yell0w.

+ Show Spoiler +
Despite how much everyone seems to hate the whole RNGesus plan, his initial post on it was solid. It's misguided in that it would require everyone to take part.. which won't happen; but the theory is sound. It's easy enough for someone to test everyone else's post to make sure there's no tomfoolery occurring. Any switches (early or late) would draw suspicion. Somebody pulled him up on his switch to BH's plan 'with no posts in between', but that was bullshit. He'd been shown how it wouldn't work, so his switch was logical.

His first big post mostly makes sense. I agree with his points on RNG not being totally alignment indicative, and for me it's probably more like 60% town indicative. With most of the players in here, I don't think experienced scum would have much trouble causing a mislynch on day1. RNG is imo more likely to hit them than a lynch through the normal course of play - Unless they made a monumental slip-up.

Summary: Probably Town, like his thought process.


Blazinghand

+ Show Spoiler +
Dude, drop the RNG. I was a believer, but it's not going to happen.

Again, the logic behind it was solid (imo - see above), as is the setup talk and effectiveness of the scummers.

The wording of this post was a little bit off to me: + Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 07:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Good point, also it doesn't matter, we need to kill them all. So are you on board, jampidampi? or are you busy thinking of another excuse not to lynch your scumbuddy odin?


In the post he was replying to, i'd put the win condition was "Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town". The 'we need to kill them all' seems to have just ignored that. Not sure if slip, but thought i'd mention it.. 'when in Rome' and all.

Overall: I don't like how you've continued pushing the RNG as it's getting to the stage where most are ignoring you, although If anything I think it makes you more town than scum at this point.


Alakaslam

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't get you.



+ Show Spoiler +
You know what stop putting Vaseline in your car and diesel does not improve your lips. Neither does motor oil work for lubrication of human anatom-

Actually, I am unsure of that

Anyway dat GASOLINE more specific than PETROL bro

Putting plastic in the car or what?

Loo

Heheh

Alyoominnium

If course to you we like a-LOO-minnum


sqrtofneg1
+ Show Spoiler +

Seems reasonably in line with newbie games i've played/obs'd with him, although slightly

Odd post time: "All other factions are anti town. That's confirmed." - Forgive me if I missed the page, but where was this confirmed?

Your vote on Holyflare was about as useful as my vote on Koshi.

+e$ports 20 for the recent geript comment.

Summary: Stay vigilant sqrt, newbie bro. These guys will promise you the world, and just end up taking your bottle-cap collection. (Probably town, but a bit too easily swayed)


Cavalinho

+ Show Spoiler +
You could pretty much pull out in a black Ford Model 18 "V-8" (1932-1934)* and wave your tommy gun around and I still probably wouldn't lynch you today. You're a survivor Cav, I believe in you.

* Thanks GQ slideshow

Oh, actual 'analysis' time?

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 14:12 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 14:09 BlueyD wrote:
Cav why do you think he's scum?


Because he's scum.

And also because he's trying to hide and he's posting a lot of questions aimed at making people feel superior. Hence, he is a mafia trying to get people to ignore him and blend in.


I pretty much fully disagree. Steveling's done anything but try and blend in. The lover's tiff between him and Holyflare is one of the more dominant things that have happened so far. Maybe people will laugh, and maybe I'm overestimating the ability of some of you regulars/overusing my newbie reads, but it doesn't seem massively scummy.

You haven't defecated today.

Summary: Pale Mafia. A light shade of pink.



27ninjabunnies
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

--

It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?


I may have my eye on a few people.

From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to ome out first day and take control of town.

I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia.



I find the last sentence a little bit contradictory. If you assume that you're in a game with people who will catch slips most of the time, then surely the talkative slippy mafia wouldn't last longer than the lurkers due to the talkative slippy nature of themselves? I don't know, maybe it's just my interpretation of the line, and maybe im understating the {if any) part.


+ Show Spoiler +
If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why.
But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter.


The fuck? It's early in the game, and there's pretty much 0 pressure on you to give out your reads to him. Saying you're then looking at them will surely change their behaviour, rendering the whole thing invalid?

The whole post by matamburini is too big and had too many capitals, so I havent and probably wont read it.


Meapak_Ziphh
+ Show Spoiler +

You still have your vote on me, and i think you've spelled my name about 6 different ways. Apart from me, who do you think's scummy?


bkqyrldp

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't have a clue what to expect from a 2-player player, but his post on how players enters the thread is alright. His quotes on jampidampi back this up. When the game started last night i couldnt really care, and i plan to return to that after this post for today. Previous newbie games i tried hard to analyse everything, and ended up being wrong and getting stressed, so it's carefree all the way for this game.

Erm, summary: Town.


Kitaman27

+ Show Spoiler +
The heart post was funny, not much else in his filter. He hosted my first game, so I always thought he'd be super pro. Kita, warm my little heart and show me you're pro.


I'm bored now and hungry and i suck at analysis and nobody will probably read it ::longpost:: and all. back to short-shitposting for now. I'll talk about others tomorrow.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 21 2014 19:16 GMT
#1438
On May 22 2014 04:14 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:12 Holyflare wrote:
why is that? for having basic reading comprehension? :o

ah you probably meant the second hapa to be a sqrt

<3
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
May 21 2014 19:19 GMT
#1439
Just now checking in, starting to catch up

I'm leaving to go climbing in two hours though so it may be a while before I'm fully caught up
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2014 19:20 GMT
#1440
On May 22 2014 01:37 Holyflare wrote:
would lynch/need to pressure more list, some people might be added pending later activity there are a few i'm leaning on adding based on next post they make and yes 2 of them are like modkill pplz

10. MysterMeat1 - modkillable
11. Alakaslam - too serious, defensive, and not trolly enough
19. Steveling - literally doing 0 things, honestly don't care how many pages of 0 things he has because it's still 0 (probs town but /care)
25. austinmcc - "off", asking bh questions of rng, superficially reading people when asked and that's about it
26. Onegu - modkillable - wait and see from replacement
29. bkqyrldp - hydra, one head trying to account for reads of other head, attacking weird people (think it's toad+someone)
31. layabout - not much said, defends and thinks bunnies is suspicious in same post, weird faction talk -scum points for UK


people contemplating adding:

4. kushm4sta - nothing really said...... lazy kush or scum kush?
5. Blazinghand - rng........ feel like voting for inevitable role claim standard bh -.- claimed blue can't lynch/won't lynch
13. Valenius - awaiting non-literal shit posting his big post just now shows that he's actually participating and looking at scummy people
14. thrawn2112 - activity indicator in later posts
18. kitaman27 - done nothing really, still done nothing
23. mtamburini - only one post of substance that ended in no substance, kind of agree with foolishness post but want to know more before adding


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