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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2014 20:52 GMT
#4841
On May 27 2014 05:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also gah I knew HF was scrum from the way he reacted, I just let BH's asshattery distract me.


but i technically wasn't scum :o?
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 26 2014 20:53 GMT
#4842
Yes in retrospect a traditional faction without recruitment would have been better instead of 4 recruiters.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 26 2014 20:53 GMT
#4843
I guess 4 traditional factions would have been better?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 26 2014 20:53 GMT
#4844
On May 27 2014 05:47 ShiaoPi wrote:
Judging from your opinions, maybe it is for the best that this game ends in a trainwreck,

I do know that the setup was scumfavored. But also considering the speed of the actual recruitments as they happened I thought it would be fine. Also stacking town like mad with vets did not help that much I guess. Maybe more immune blues? The thing is if one of the blues actually stole a djinn from the scumteams, they would have been a massive asset to town. I mean they could have been unlimited vigs, or even protect the entirety of town for 1 KP.
I just really wanted to try out the idea of having 4 recruiting factions trying to outsmart each other and hunting each other.

Anyway, Lessons learned:
Do not try to host another themed large game, I have funny and crazy ideas which just end in imba imba imba.
Recruitment roles are a pain in the ass to balance and I should probably stay away from them as far as possible

I do hope the game was still enjoyable to most of you.


A single recruitment role causes chaos

you had 4 that each got a 1 time replacement

Large themed games are great though.

In my opinion you should have started nuking people trashing the thread.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2014 20:54 GMT
#4845
On May 27 2014 05:48 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 05:33 layabout wrote:
On May 27 2014 05:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
It was a pretty good game all in all.

I dont necessarily understand the spreadsheet, so not sure who all was scum...


And what was with the whole "touched by magic" stuff?

riotky's role is actually really cool

if someone is touched by maigc it's a bit complicated but anyone that isn't is conrfirmed vanilla town which would make it powerful. On the other hand recruiter mechanics fuck it up, but hey if he announces someone it's likely that multiple factions would target them and cancel out


Lol, I made that crap up. I was VT, and I had a growing scum read on bunnies, wanted to reaction test her. I also had a doctor read on someone and wanted to eat a bullet for them.


Well you were freaking wrong... Like seriously...
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 26 2014 20:54 GMT
#4846
On May 27 2014 05:49 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 05:48 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 27 2014 05:47 marvellosity wrote:
I fucked around because i couldn't find good lynches

because there weren't any fucking good lynches.


thrawn and kush got "passes" for bad reasons imo.

Koshi playaed pretty well so did HF for scum everyone else was just town though Although Tamburini could have fooled me.

kush was town on day 1.


day 2 though he got the pass and people were on him.

BlueyD
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada437 Posts
May 26 2014 20:54 GMT
#4847
Gimme a traditional faction, a 1-player faction, a recruiter faction and a can-win-with-town faction.
Zealot Chaaaaarge!
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 26 2014 20:54 GMT
#4848
HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted
05-25-2014
04:50 PM ET (US)
##recruit xatalos gasp
##shoot bh for now

Damn, why didn't you do that I was baiting for that all game long.

My role was this:

Welcome to Golden Sun Mafia Djinn Edition! You are a Ivan, prodigy of Kalay! You have already chased Saturos and Menardi halfway across the world, but Weyard is still in danger even after you have slain them at the Venus Lighthouse. In the current emergency regarding the Djinn you have a pivotal role. You are immune to being controlled by rogue Djinn. Furthermore you are so skilled as an adept that any Djinn, which tries to attach to you is instead restored to your control. This ability only functions once in the game. You win with the Adepts of Weyard!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 26 2014 20:54 GMT
#4849
On May 27 2014 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 05:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also gah I knew HF was scrum from the way he reacted, I just let BH's asshattery distract me.


but i technically wasn't scum :o?

Not town then w/e. You still reacted too strongly to someone casually saying you might be scrum.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 26 2014 20:55 GMT
#4850
On May 27 2014 05:54 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 05:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2014 05:48 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 27 2014 05:47 marvellosity wrote:
I fucked around because i couldn't find good lynches

because there weren't any fucking good lynches.


thrawn and kush got "passes" for bad reasons imo.

Koshi playaed pretty well so did HF for scum everyone else was just town though Although Tamburini could have fooled me.

kush was town on day 1.


day 2 though he got the pass and people were on him.


but he was only scum by chance on d2

nothing changed from d1 when he was town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 26 2014 20:55 GMT
#4851
On May 27 2014 05:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 05:48 ritoky wrote:
On May 27 2014 05:33 layabout wrote:
On May 27 2014 05:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
It was a pretty good game all in all.

I dont necessarily understand the spreadsheet, so not sure who all was scum...


And what was with the whole "touched by magic" stuff?

riotky's role is actually really cool

if someone is touched by maigc it's a bit complicated but anyone that isn't is conrfirmed vanilla town which would make it powerful. On the other hand recruiter mechanics fuck it up, but hey if he announces someone it's likely that multiple factions would target them and cancel out


Lol, I made that crap up. I was VT, and I had a growing scum read on bunnies, wanted to reaction test her. I also had a doctor read on someone and wanted to eat a bullet for them.


Well you were freaking wrong... Like seriously...


Yeah, i figured as much when you started getting angry, and was gonna rescind. But then other people started having odd reactions to the claim on you, so I was gonna leave it out there until the day phase then rescind.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 26 2014 20:56 GMT
#4852
I think one of the balance issues was the KP could be recruited into. In Mercury for example by N3 we would be rocking 3 KP with 3 members.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 26 2014 20:56 GMT
#4853
I initially talked with foolishness about it (that was way back in October 2013 I believe? He pretty much placed full trust in my balancing capabilities and I think he forgot about the setup, which was preliminary at that time anyway. Somewhere in December I worked out another couple of chinks and just rolled with it, before doing finishing touches just before the game started after Koshi massPM'ed ppl. So in the end nobody from the balancing team really saw it in all its madness. I let Foolishness play also, because the setup changed so much anyway and I doubted he remembered much in the first place.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
BlueyD
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada437 Posts
May 26 2014 21:00 GMT
#4854
On May 27 2014 05:56 Tehpoofter wrote:
I think one of the balance issues was the KP could be recruited into. In Mercury for example by N3 we would be rocking 3 KP with 3 members.


Would've been lulzy if everyone had done that, hold the KP and N3 BOOM 12 people die.
Zealot Chaaaaarge!
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 26 2014 21:03 GMT
#4855
Also I want to thank all my co-hosts for:
a) a phenomenal job on keeping up with the thread
b) going along with my whims and ideas for this setup

You guys did really well and hopefully next time you co-host it won't be with a mainhost, who accidentally ends the game! :D
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 26 2014 21:04 GMT
#4856
On May 27 2014 05:55 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 05:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 27 2014 05:48 ritoky wrote:
On May 27 2014 05:33 layabout wrote:
On May 27 2014 05:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
It was a pretty good game all in all.

I dont necessarily understand the spreadsheet, so not sure who all was scum...


And what was with the whole "touched by magic" stuff?

riotky's role is actually really cool

if someone is touched by maigc it's a bit complicated but anyone that isn't is conrfirmed vanilla town which would make it powerful. On the other hand recruiter mechanics fuck it up, but hey if he announces someone it's likely that multiple factions would target them and cancel out


Lol, I made that crap up. I was VT, and I had a growing scum read on bunnies, wanted to reaction test her. I also had a doctor read on someone and wanted to eat a bullet for them.


Well you were freaking wrong... Like seriously...


Yeah, i figured as much when you started getting angry, and was gonna rescind. But then other people started having odd reactions to the claim on you, so I was gonna leave it out there until the day phase then rescind.

That isn't cool when it's alignment flip, when you claim blue and flip town we would have acted upon you giving correct information.

However i still like the idea of a detective that can identify vanilla town that weren't visited
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
May 26 2014 21:04 GMT
#4857
It was definitly an interesting setup, but I am kind of glad its over
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 26 2014 21:05 GMT
#4858
On May 27 2014 05:54 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 05:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2014 05:48 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 27 2014 05:47 marvellosity wrote:
I fucked around because i couldn't find good lynches

because there weren't any fucking good lynches.


thrawn and kush got "passes" for bad reasons imo.

Koshi playaed pretty well so did HF for scum everyone else was just town though Although Tamburini could have fooled me.

kush was town on day 1.


day 2 though he got the pass and people were on him.


Everyone gets a pass when there is a red check
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 26 2014 21:06 GMT
#4859
Thanks for the game anyway, yeah. It was... interesting :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 26 2014 21:07 GMT
#4860
On May 27 2014 05:55 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 05:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 27 2014 05:48 ritoky wrote:
On May 27 2014 05:33 layabout wrote:
On May 27 2014 05:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
It was a pretty good game all in all.

I dont necessarily understand the spreadsheet, so not sure who all was scum...


And what was with the whole "touched by magic" stuff?

riotky's role is actually really cool

if someone is touched by maigc it's a bit complicated but anyone that isn't is conrfirmed vanilla town which would make it powerful. On the other hand recruiter mechanics fuck it up, but hey if he announces someone it's likely that multiple factions would target them and cancel out


Lol, I made that crap up. I was VT, and I had a growing scum read on bunnies, wanted to reaction test her. I also had a doctor read on someone and wanted to eat a bullet for them.


Well you were freaking wrong... Like seriously...


Yeah, i figured as much when you started getting angry, and was gonna rescind. But then other people started having odd reactions to the claim on you, so I was gonna leave it out there until the day phase then rescind.


Yeah i was pretty ticked off that i was getting scumread for this post, when people were reading me as town. And then immediately after you die, sqrt votes me...

I was prob gonna be one of the main focuses, if not geript.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
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